Archive for April, 2008


Ugh. WTH. I can’t even load a page… blah. Every. single. time. I. log. in.

Damn it, with all the money we get in ad revenue, you would think we would have decent speed.


Seriously, this is why I made that post about being careful what pics you post.  I seriously think I’m going to take a break from this, I can’t quite stomach DS and the attention that p3rvs will probably be giving it.

Ped0 phil3 symbol

PSA: Please read Re: pics of your kids on the net

Thoughts on celebrity endorsement..?

Anyway, I’m sorry to you readers, but after this, I just can’t.  Feel free to make any submissions, I’m sure DSDM2 can still do some blogging, but as of right now, I’m not feeling up to it.


Is there anything I can do? (http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=396075)

popt_art 04-15-2008 07:38 AM

Is there anything I can do?
I bought a couple of 3SR Mutts from FSOT for $20 each (with postage on top)

They were described as being in great condition with no problems, and while they were more crispy than I expected they seemed fine.
However, after 1 wash and wear the snaps (or poppers) don’t seem to be working 😦

I am really new to CDing and to DS and I don’t know if there is anything I can do about this. Do I just eat up a $20 + loss per diaper?

It is making me really wary of buying any more used 😦

mybaybeelove 04-15-2008 09:08 AM

Re: Is there anything I can do?
Well, You should have contacted HER before making it a public diaper chatter thread.

FSOT are USED dipes. The seller didn’t say, but I can only assume that she bought them used also.
It doesn’t say what condition it is in, it just says they are great looking diapers.

I too am new to CD but not naive enough to think every diaper is going to come in pristeen condition, especially when it doesn’t say what condition it is in.

I bought one diaper with insert and the insert turned out to be a washcloth. (?????)

Contact the seller before posting it open to everyone.

naivete 04-15-2008 12:14 PM

Re: Is there anything I can do?
Why is everyone being so rude? That’s what the transaction and feedback discussion forum is FOR, it’s for asking questions about transactions and how to deal with things, if you look through the forum, pretty much every question is “I had this deal happen and this happened, how would you deal with it?”. That’s what it’s for. It’s not rude, it’s not publically bashing, she didn’t even give her name, so chillax, she was just asking for advice on a transaction she made.

.. which is the point of the forum. She was asking how to, or if she should, approach the seller, which is fine.

Newbie OP – don’t feel discouraged not only by the deal but by the rude-o people in your thread telling you that you can’t ask for help with a transaction in the very spot that asking help for transactions is supposed to be.

:rolleyesout:

Did you use the diapers once before washing it and they worked fine, or did you get them, assume it worked fine, gave em a wash and then realized the snaps don’t work? Because if they worked fine when you got them, they probably worked fine when the seller sold them.

Is there someone in your area with a snap press? maybe do a google search, call around to alteration places, you could probably get them resnapped for relatively cheap, and then PM the seller and say you had to get them fixed and see if she could chip in a few bucks towards the fixing price. Cause if she didn’t know they were bum snaps, it’s not quite her fault, but also is not really yours either, if she’s a nice mama she coudl refund a few bucks towards the repair of the diapers.

Seriously, I’m confused about this forum.  Are you or are you NOT supposed to ask questions about transactions here? ONLY if you’ve already contacted the seller? And then, if you do it after contacting the seller, there are people that ream you for doing it then.  So, what gives? And why are people being so rude about this lately?

Okay.. lets just hash it out here about circumcision & abortion issues (http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=394029)

*Alabamamom* 04-13-2008 10:17 AM

Okay.. lets just hash it out here about circumcision & abortion issues
I am not going to continue replying on this subject in someone else’s thread that asked to no debates.. I made the mistake of replying to someone else, then apoligized for doing so and shut up.. But, since some are still so ready to jump up and down about it.. I figure, why not make a thread for this very reason.. We are all adults, surely we can lay it on the table diplomatically right? Oh.. and while I’m at it, I am adding a poll.. I am doing a study in my sociology class so this will be very helpful for me!
Obviously my stance on the whole circ issue is I feel it’s the parents choice to do what is best for their family.. it’s no ones business.. just like it’s no ones business if that same mother chose to formula feed or breast feed.. What I find interesting the most, is the same mama’s that argue that circing is ‘mutilation’ and you are taking somehow taking the childs rights away, are the same people that are prochoice.. I don’t understand how it’s ok to make the ‘choice’ of having your child sucked out in chunks from your womb, but NOT okay to have a little bit of skin removed in circing.. :headscratch: And yes, this IS a debate.. so lets go and hash it once and for all.. All that is asked, IS NO NAME CALLING AND TO HAVE RESPECT.. beat the subject up, not the poster.. :thumbsup: That said, I have errands and schoolwork to be done so it may be a while before I can check back..
Oooh, what fun!! Someone will be called a mutilator and a murderer all in one thread. <insert eye roll smiley here> I really must stay out of that thread.

OMG WHAT???!! 😦 😦 😦 vent 😦 (http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=391885)

natalie143 04-11-2008 04:43 AM

OMG WHAT???!! 😦 😦 😦 vent 😦
so i am a new CD’er currently living in south africa…
i made my first purchase on cloth diapers 2 weeks ago and Finally got my items… BUT i got charged 80% of the amount on CUSTOM duties…. so i bought something for 125 dollars.. and i paid 100 dollars at customs… that has NEVER happened to me before..

but you wanna know the sad part? i should never have been charged on it… if the store seller had written ‘baby cloth diapers’… instead of bum genius, thirsties, etc… i would have gotten charged nothing.
reason being, here in south africa there are no duties on baby goods.
It got charged as textiles(clothing…) because the customs officers couldn’t understand what bum genius is…
( i cant send it back to customs for them to open it up and see cuz theres a high chance here in south africa that it would get stolen, so i just have to deal with it.)

when you send internationally and declare the items, what would you write for a cloth diaper?

the reason im asking is because when i used to buy wraps and baby carriers… on the declaration form the sellers would write Baby carrier.. not Didymos wrap(because… hmmm who would understand that?)…

Sorry i just had to vent… i could have used that money to buy more diapers…
if i am in the wrong to post this, sorry! i just got hit really bad

at the same time, i need to know what most people write so i know whether i can continue to purchase cloth diapers from the US..(the cloth diapers that are sold here are very poor quality).

Mommyof2Princesses 04-11-2008 06:09 AM

Re: OMG WHAT???!! 😦 😦 😦 vent 😦
Quote:

Originally Posted by natalie143 (Post 3287022)
yeah but i just thought it would be common sense to write what the generalisation of the items… because customs would not understand what a 3 pack of bum genius is.. ya know? so then they had to charge me the highest duties…
i didnt think i HAD to ask them to put the most obvious answer. The declaration form is so that you can give customs an indication of what the item is… how is writing the brand name gonna give them any knowledge as to what is inside 😦 😦 😦

It isn’t common sense to everyone. I’m sorry it happened to you but I know that every Canadian mom I’ve sold to has told me what to write on the customs form. Not everyone is even aware that you might have to pay extra for writing down brand names etc… I never knew people had to pay duties until I sold to a Canadian mom. I have a friend from South Africa and I didn’t know you guys had to pay duties. It might be worth your time in the future to make sure you don’t get charged so much. That stinks.
five-littlemonkeys 04-11-2008 09:33 AM

Re: OMG WHAT???!! 😦 😦 😦 vent 😦
I always write WHAT the items are not the brand names. Cloth diapers, Cloth diaper covers, wool baby clothes.

My reasoning…

1) It’s a different country they don’t have the same brands (why buy out of country if you do) so how do they know what it is and may not even know it’s a brand name. Take Zanny Zebra for instance. Is it a silly stuffed Zebra, a electronic Zebra, or maybe the new code name for some fancy new dope??
2) Postal works aren’t the smartest tools in the shed. You need to be very specific for them to understand. I know I’ve had issues trying to buy a mediume sized BOX from my PO let alone try to send something with d/c or signature verification!!
3) Chances are when it’s something to do with mothering or womanhood a Male agent will get the box. They are so not gona open it to look it they know it’s gona be baby stuff!!
4) It’s a different country. They may not even speak/read English well. Simple and straight forward is your best bet they can translate it properly.
5) Most other country call diapers Nappies. So there’s already a name different adding brand almost ensures they have to open it. It’s not like they have a computer right there so they can google every odd thing that’s written on the slips.

natalie143 04-11-2008 09:52 AM

Re: OMG WHAT???!! 😦 😦 😦 vent 😦
just outta curiosity… if you were the seller and had you made this type of mistake..(obviously unintentionally).. what would you do? would you just change what you write in the future?
kimb96 04-12-2008 09:16 AM

Re: OMG WHAT???!! 😦 😦 😦 vent 😦
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet_Fantasy_Fox (Post 3296149)
I’m sorry, thats very high, i think since what she chose to write is what caused this she should offer some reimburstment. i write cloth diaper, used cloth diapers/covers, whatever it is.
she needs to offer more than a little i’m sorry you can save when buying from me again:banghead:

I’m sorry but I disagree. Duty and custom fees are the responsibility of the buyer. The wahm didn’t lie on the custom form, she didn’t inflate the value. I’m sorry that op got stuck with high custom fees but I think it’s wrong to expect the retailer to reimburse her for them.
micael 04-12-2008 09:52 AM

Re: OMG WHAT???!! 😦 😦 😦 vent 😦
Quote:

Originally Posted by natalie143 (Post 3287022)
yeah but i just thought it would be common sense to write what the generalisation of the items… because customs would not understand what a 3 pack of bum genius is.. ya know? so then they had to charge me the highest duties…
i didnt think i HAD to ask them to put the most obvious answer. The declaration form is so that you can give customs an indication of what the item is… how is writing the brand name gonna give them any knowledge as to what is inside 😦 😦 😦

I haven’t read through the pages of replies so forgive if this has been mentioned already but…

I think it is a poor assumption on your behalf to assume a seller should “put the most obvious answer”. Perhaps who you bought from has never sold internationally. If you had bought from me, I would have *never known* that writing something such as “baby diapers” would save you money at customs. I would have only known had you mentioned. Of course, now thanks to this thread I can make a mental note for international sales.

I know $100 sucks to have to pay out, trust me I’d be upset too. But at the same time it seems as if you’ve put all the fault on the seller who really may not have known there was anything else that could have been done to prevent that charge kwim?

Sorry I just had to throw in from a seller’s point of view.

So, who’s responsible?? If I didn’t put c/o on a package, and the PO returned it to sender, I’d fork it over for more shipping. The WAHM technically did nothing wrong, even though the buyer got a sucky customs deal, but still, to think a she has to make up for this doesn’t seem right. I say suck it up, call it a lesson learned. An expensive one, yes, but that’s how it goes sometimes. People need to take more responsibility these days.

is there a scammer among the crowd? (http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=393629)

christianethansmom 04-12-2008 07:28 PM

is there a scammer among the crowd?
I’ve noticed lately that a certain DS mama has been a bit….. odd. Normally I wouldn’t even notice but a while back, I purchased something from her and after a long wait, words, pp claim, etc the item still never came. It’s been almost 4 months now. She says that other items she has sent have also been lost but I’m thinking what the chances are of all this happening at the same time. Recently I’ve noticed that she’s been have some ‘troubles’ getting on. My question is, who/what can I do to verify that this mama isn’t scamming me/us? I can’t call her out but I wonder if anyone actually knows her IRL.
Hmmmmm….. who could it be?? I’ve seen a few people using the Answering Machine.  And there’s a sticky by cowmommy in another place.  Makes you wonder… kinda.

I just sold…. (http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=392445)

tmrobinson 04-11-2008 02:09 PM

I just sold….
a bunch of formula checks to buy diapers. Is this bad? They were all checks for the second step forumla that we don’t use so instead of throwing them away I sold them for pp so I can buy more diapers. :blush:
naivete 04-11-2008 03:10 PM

Re: I just sold….
It depends. If you actually NEEDED the diapers, as in you got like 15 kids all sharing 3 diapers and you have to do laundry every 2 seconds, NEED the diapers, then I think it’s okay cause you’re both in a situation where you actually are in need of something and can help each other out.

BUT, if you’re out there buyin up crazy luxury diapers with it, then I think that’s a lil too exploitative.. exploitive.. whatever.

Cause they were free to you, they should be free to someone else too. But, what’s done is done.

kidpsych2be 04-11-2008 03:34 PM

Re: I just sold….
Selling formula checks is illegal.

Shame on you.

:yuck:

Manna00 04-11-2008 03:41 PM

Re: I just sold….
The OP didn’t specify where the checks were sold, but I’d like to direct attention to the DS FAQ’s on the topic:
Can I sell coupons or Formula checks on DS?
No, most coupons and formula checks state on them that they hold no cash value. They are given out for free…spread the love. These are only allowed to be given away FFS
And so the story goes. I still find it humorous that even if something is against the rules, if someone is really in need of diapers, that negates all rules. But, I also think it’s funny that no one has mentioned how you get around it being illegal. Rather than charge for the check, you charge a fee for your time collecting the checks. It’s a service. 😉 Not trying to give anyone any ideas… I think you should just sign up for the list if you need the checks, and ask your family and friends around you to do the same.

Censored (http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=391867)

tinyblackdot 04-11-2008 02:21 AM

Censored
Well so there was a thread about a certain companies commercial that was put up the other day, and i made a post about the other commercials that that particular company has, and how the company is turning into a monopoly, and how most people are not aware of what that company does, and that their commercials lead people to falsely believe that they are an environmentally/societal conscious corporation……..anyways the mods removed my post! Things are getting a little to controlled in here. I think that on a forum like this that there should be no reason why we as consumers cannot post our feelings about products…..this whole thing has gotten WAY out of hand! I know the rule was put into place for the WAHMs but really does a comment about a multi billion dollar corporation need to be monitored? :yuck:
Proverbs169 04-11-2008 08:02 AM

Re: Censored
We have a rule here that there is to be no bashing of WAHMs. You can find it in the FAQs (at the top of the page). This rule also applies to other companies, no matter how large they might be or how much you may disagree with their policies.
starrymomma 04-11-2008 08:36 AM

Re: Censored
:hide: Most mommas came on DS to learn about cloth diapers.. but MANY of us have learned MUCH MUCH more. We have learned about AP, being thrifty, product options that support WAHM’s, how to deal with inlaws & DH’s… and some of us have learned about companies that we had NO CLUE had unethical practices. Some of us have learned things that roll off our backs and don’t change our habits as consumers…but some of us have learned that there are companies who completely misrepresent themselves or their mission. We also learn about companies who have business practices to RAVE about.

Not every one of us has time to google every place we shop to see if they’ve done anything *good or bad* lately/ever that would change our view of them. I feel that if you take each thread with a grain of salt, you can apply what you learn how you wish.

Honestly, I’m more exhausted by reading DH vents than I am seeing companies being ‘outed’ (wahm or not). I understand the ‘rule’ about ‘bashing’ wahms, and feel it is necessary as some people would post a bash before even communicating with the mom. *Even if it’s a passive-aggressive “What should I do/WWYD” thread.*

Have you tried to get in touch with these major companies? Chances are, IF you hear anything, it will be a letter containing PR bull and coupons to get you to spend $$ with them. By having the opportunity to get info here on DS, we can investigate it further if we feel a personal need to. These companies *big/small/independent* will have no reason to change how they operate/their product if the public isn’t aware and therefor take no action or continue to shop there…

Just my :2cents:. :rant:

This thread didn’t get much action, and surprisingly didn’t get deleted either.  People do realize that the censorship is getting to be a bit much, but really, you can’t do anything about it.  You can’t say that Walmart is bad.  You can’t say you had a bad return experience with Target.  You can’t complain that Dell took too long to ship you something.  You’d think as adults we wouldn’t need rules like this.  I’ve yet to see a rule like that at any other forum. It really is just a ridiculous rule, but, what can you do about it.  Maybe this is why some people think it’s defamation to say they have bad products? It’s totally legal for people to have opinions, it’s too bad it’s not supported by DS.

*vent* about a friend’s insolent little brat. (http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=390590)

mfnusz 04-09-2008 07:34 PM

*vent* about a friend’s insolent little brat.
sorry if that sounds harsh but i have had ENOUGH of her. today we were out at the park, and all the kids were running around, playing and having fun….when my daughter finds a bug. let me preface this by saying that we are HUGE animal lovers and teach our kids to respect all life, they would never kill a bug for no reason. my 4 y.o. DD looooovves bugs, she finds them and picks them up and carries them around. well, her friend (let’s call her “jordan”) knows this, and for no good reason other than to antagonize my daughter, STOMPS on her bug. katie was mortified. she started crying and ran over to me to tell me that jordan killed her bug…..well, i went off on her. i asked her how she would like it if someone came into HER house and squished HER. i told her that this was the outdoors, where the bugs LIVE, and that she had no right to go squishing them when they weren’t bothering her (mind you, we’re not talking mosquitoes or bees or anything that was coming after her). grrrrr. she then proceeds to follow my daughter around as she is looking for bugs just so she can pretend like she is going to kill them. i realize that we might be a *little* extreme (and i DO kill SOME pesky bugs in the house, though if i can, i try to relocate them outside first) but it just made my blood boil that this impudent little brat was doing this just for the sheer delight it brought her to kill the bug and watch my daughter’s horror.

okay, i feel better now.

I started reading this and though I felt bad that her daughter got her bug squished, I was horrified that this DS mama confronted a kid like that!!! Apparently I’m the only one so far that feels like that, but she’s calling a CHILD an insolent brat, and an impudent little brat, and yelling at her over a squished bug.  While this little one might need a lesson in being nice to bugs, you’d think this mama could treat another kid a bit better than she seems to treat bugs. I get wanted to vent, but this was out of line and a bit much.  If I found out someone talked to MY baby like that, I’d be livid!