Posted by: MadreJoyce
INSERT SCREAM (Final Update In Post#39) It Continues #50
I know ive posted alot of these lately.. I have done alot of transactions lately- but it seems for ever so many good- I stumble upon a bad. Do people not take pride in B/S/T anymore?
Im so fed up.. Really.. Now it seems im being taken by the less likely.. A freakin well established mama here with a rating of 96! She is even a WAHM with a store ect..
Last month around the 22,23 I paid for a lot of covers.. One in particular I wanted because it was a birthday cover.. My sons birthday is the 8th! They arent here- no record of being shipped through paypal nothing. Since then ive ordered other stuff that has came from several states away & gotten here.
Literally thinking, Ok the likelyhood the mama is scamming is rare- since she is so well established with lots of feedback I try not to worry. I contact her yesturday to tell her kindly I still havent gotten them & was wondering what day/date she shipped & if she had a tracking number.
I always keep my PM’s & listings & I sent her a PM with the original PM’s regarding our transaction. So it should be very obvious who I am- since she can totally re-read everything that took place between her & I..
She writes back saying.. “send me your paypal address so I can look into it”.. So I do & then she says she needs to put her LO to bed- and she will get back to me this morning.. Well after that she still stayed online a good bit of time browsing (so it wasnt just that she left her page open) until finally signing off.. Well this morning she was online and still no word..
IM pretty upset that they arent here- but being a holiday in the middle of it- I can understand. I just want an update on the status of when she shipped, or if she shipped ect.. Im now more upset that she is running me around instead of taking 30 sec to look at her paypal account like she said & let me know..
Not to mention I really hoped Id have this stuff here by my son’s birthday so he could wear his “birthday diaper”..
I think the thing im more upset about is the poor communication..
Maybe its just me- but I expect better communication than being ran around.. Even an update to tell me she isnt sure what happened or she lost her DC or something would be better than running me around & not telling me anything at all & ignoring me.
09-03-2008, 07:03 PM #8
AMEN!! A simple reply… an update would suffice BUT the ignoring! UGH! I can’t stand that! I feel ya girl and I’m sorry you’re going through this. Hope everything gets worked out and your babe can wear his dipe.
09-03-2008, 09:38 PM #10
I PM’d again… Nothing no response..
Should I give her more time? Or is it safe to assume she is running me around- since last night she said she’d definately let me know something first thing in the morning <– according to her PM..
Should I just file or would it be too premature..
I know this is just wrong to say- but from a well established mama here to another- I totally expected more than this.. I expect this from scamming newbies… Not from someone with nearly 100 feedback. Its sick.. Very scammish..
Im so not happy & at the same time im trying to be fair.. Whats wrong with taking 30 sec (as it seriously doesnt even hardly take that long to check your paypal like you say & get back to me) Esp when I have proof you have been online since you said you needed to check your records.
Whenever a buyer has asked me about shipping- I respond promptly- there is too much scamming going on these days to leave someone hanging.. Even if I need more time to look for the DC- I at least explain that & keep them updated at least every 24hrs. & I dont make promises I cant or dont intend to keep- esp time limits ect..
UGH— Should I just file? Or wait longer?
09-04-2008, 12:10 AM
Anyways- I think ill give her tomarrow to respond before I file.. I really am trying to be fair.. I did contact admin though- something just isnt right.. esp since she promised me a few things..
#1) when i sent paypal she promised she would mail it that Monday..
#2)Then when I hadnt gotten them, she acted like she had no clue what i was talking about- even though i sent her original pm’s. & Then promised to get back to me by _____ blank time. Which she never did & has since been online only to ignore me.
Hopefully I wont have to file & getting admin involved will help.. Still even if she had lost them or not sent them but decides to- the Birthday cover will prob not be here in time for DS birthday I want the covers- but right now id really love some sort of communication instead of being ignored.
09-05-2008, 01:30 PM #20
I appreciate those of you who took the time to help me handle this..
You couldnt even imagine how weird this has gotten to put it mildly. Im not even sure how to post here and let you all know what all has gone on because my head is still spinning with fury & confusion.
Ok so the seller: for the last few days has been relatively avoiding and quiet until Admin got involved & I filed a dispute. What little bit the seller has communicated has been very conflicting & strange.
So to present a list details of whats been going on is the best I can do to help share what im dealing with…
Starting from the begining..
I see a listing for some cheap covers
I contact seller and ask for paypal addy so I can buy them
Seller responds back with paypal addy
I pay seller
Seller says it will ship that monday- 2 days later (no prob)
No communication takes place from either side
Im patient- no mail
Week 2 – still patient- no mail
Checking paypal & Sellers status here for details during week 2- I see seller is still active on DS- browsing ect- so I dont worry much
Paypal says nothing for status- no shipping status at all- no DC no “check shipment” nothing.. Just an empty transaction on Paypal.
I contact seller nicely to inform I hadnt yet recieved the package and was hoping for a nice update on the date she shipped & possibly a DC number with the intent to make sure the PO hadnt lost it.
Seller gets back to me with an excuse involving putting her LO to bed for the night (no prob btdt- i understand- but still she manages to stay on DS browsing forums for quite some time after that before logging off)- was very vague in her response told me she didnt seem to knowing what transaction I was talking about (even though I sent original PMs)- saying she would have to look it up in paypal- and would do so first thing in the morning..
Following morning- seller signs on- browses forums (even admin makes note of this) and never gets back to me.
For 24 hours I contact seller letting her know I was still waiting for an update.
Seller comes back with another vague response.. That she honestly has no clue- and keeps no record of shipments except through paypal & that she would log into her paypal to see what her status says through paypal.
She also takes the time to write a seperate PM bashing me for my post here on the transaction board claiming many conflicting things & also making up weird excuses. & Claiming it takes a long time to track a package through paypal.. Whatever..
She still at this point other than bashing me- provides me with still no info on what she did with the package or even when or if she shipped it.
Admin has been involved up to this point and was requesting we both copy our PM’s to admin as we are working this out- and she refuses to do so.
Now, at this point im being advised not only by everyone here to file but also by admin as her story is really starting to get weird.. Her actions & responses are very scammish & strange.
At admins advice I file a claim this morning. She then lashes out on me through paypal & here in PM’s on DS.
Still once again no apology or anything but an email full of excuses and very werid conflicting stories. Still no real word on when she mailed or anything yet on the status.
& Then suddenly- she updates paypal with a DC number that when tracked says it was just mailed?? The price also seems very off- too cheap for 3 thick covers. & Still doesnt proceed to explain herself to whats going on?
Finally after confronting her & wondering why now she just mails it & still provides no real explanation.. She starts to threaten me with law suits & call me names, and still everything just gets weirder.. Just because im stern (im confronting her- but never bashing her) & Im wanting a straight story on whats really happened & where my diapers are..
I have no proof that DC is even mine- esp since she isnt saying anything about it- or admitting to just shipping or even saying when she shipped. She keeps spinning webs of tales that really do not add up or make sense.
& then the threats wow..
I hope Admin can sort this out- my head is spinning, with still no reassurance she is being honest and has mailed my diapers..
Did I mention she also called me & admin liars saying even though its very obvious she has been online lately- she claims she hasnt?
& Again lets not go back and remember I needed one of those by this weekend for DS birthday.
What a nightmare..
I understand things happen- whats wrong with admitting you made a mistake or keeping communication istead of lying & threatening?
And I would have just settled for a “real” oops I forgot or misplaced them & they are now going out- Im sorry.. Instead ofbeing ran around- avoided, ignored & then played for an idiot with many conflicting stories & still no real answer, not to mention name calling, and harrassing threats.
Still hoping the diapers get here in time- but I doubt it. Im not convinced they will even get here..
O & God forbid I leave appropriate feedback- Once again threatened.
09-07-2008, 10:43 AM #33
Just wanted to update..
Seller has refused to communicate further with me- threatening me, I still havent received the package & hopefully soon Admin will be getting back with me..
Id love to leave appropriate feedback, but this mama has already made numerous threats from legal action (yea- eyeroll) to leaving me negative.. (a negative for what?- paying fast & being patient, but realizing somethings not right & standing up for myself?)
Yesterday, 04:51 PM #39
Sorry for the late update.. It took some time going back and forth to sort it all out- and reach peaceful ground again..
With admins help, We ended up resolving it (I cancelled the PP claim).. She apologized in the end- I did finally receive the diapers and I have to admit- even though the transaction itself sucked, the diapers were a good deal.. I left her positive because she did ultimately end up apologizing & I did get them. Ive been through worse.. I look at it this way-
At least im not out my money & diapers.. I was very upset with the threats & name calling, and upset with the fact she waited so long before shipping & didnt make an effort in letting me know or hardly communicating.
Ive learned to pick my battles & let it go. Im grateful I wasnt scammed ya know.
My friends tell me Im being too nice to leave her positive, perhaps she was just having a bad week or something? She did have really good feedback up to this point, and again she was nice an apologized later, plus I got the diapers finally- whats to really complain about. I dont want to look like an overdramatic ungrateful vendictive person. I just wanted to let it go- nothing that can really be done anyways right? Other than making bitterness- which I really dont want to deal with right now.
I have been scammed so much, im just greatful this didnt turn out to be scam- even though it did seem like one for a while. People make mistakes right? She handled it poorly yes.. But she did apologize.
OK, WTF, this lady leaves freaking positive feedback after being threatened in PMs, Admin does nothing about the threats, and this is a WAHM?!?!
But wait it isn’t over!!!
I have now filed a juicy apple report on this seller, I recieved the following via email. (The sender who I will not disclose for privacy and respect, gave me permission to share this with you all)
about your bad transaction with _______
yesterday I went back and forth about whether i should email you or not. You should read this:
There is a lot more to the story. Eventually someone who wanted to remain anonymous sent her the money to pay _____. The “lost” money order was never found, and she never found the receipt. Who sends out a $300 money order and never even asks the person if she got it??? Or atleast holds onto the reciept>?? This all happened on the AOL boards. It was really sad. Im sure you’d never do business with her again, but I just though I’d send you this info just incase. yOu seem very understanding and I’d hate to see you get scammed. I think personally that she just decided to apologize because she found out that mods and other people were getting involved.
And Ive also recieved mulitple private messages from the seller today, and now I understand why complete feedback is important…
I would now also like to pass on the friendly advice the sender of the email gave me: When doing transactions take the time to read all the feedback even the positive, and also even taking some time to do internet research on the seller or buisness names can help. I had no idea- and now Im feeling a bit taken again.