Ok, this one ended up being a little bit of drama. I’m not sure I am in agreement of it all, but I couldn’t resist blogging it since it hasn’t been deleted even though it includes tattle taleing, lying, retaliatory feedback, and the seller has been outed. (And I want to try this new thread reply thing.)
There was a second thread on this, but it went poof. This is long, but worth a read.
http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=678748
| 02-23-2009, 08:30 AM | #1 |
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What do you think is fair here?
I bought some fitteds from a Mama, for the baby that was not to be.
She advertised them as VGUC but without stains whatsoever. I got them today and 3 of the 4 have stains. She did post pics but it was a large group pic and they were not visible in that pic. Two on the inside and one on the backside (odd right?) Well I PM her and tell her I’d like a partial refund on each or to return them and she’ll pay the postage back. She says she’ll give me 50c partial refund for each because they were off FSOT and not new or I can send them back and not get a my shipping, but what I paid. She pretty much stated that I was making it up, but IDK why I’d buy diapers I needed for a baby and then make up a story about stains? We’re still TTC so I still need the diapers, hopefully I’ll need them in November instead of October. Now, I know that these were not newhttp://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=48 but when someone says specifically “No stains” in their ad, the diapers should be stain free, right? I felt I was being fair with my offer, was I asking too much? I told her I’d PM a mod, since she’s made it clear that there were no stains on the diapers and she is not willing to refund me my shipping back to her if I do that. But I figured I’d stop here first, and get others opinions before I do that..
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| 02-23-2009, 02:32 PM | #18 |
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Re: What do you think is fair here?
I think we have a bigger problem here, DH informed me that the WAY she shipped it was actually illegal here. He learned it in his in-processing brief, it violates the German-American customs/SOFA agreement.
I’m not going to sun them, I can’t even sun my own diapers!! I read the pamphlet and it says we can’t put our personal property in common areas.. so I guess that means no diapers outside. DH is convinced that the windows block UV, is that what bleaches the diapers? And yea, at that point IDK if I’d expect her to take them back, because I’d have fiddled with them, kwim? At least I’m not nuts, and y’all see the stains too! |
| 02-23-2009, 02:46 PM | #20 |
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Re: What do you think is fair here?
She shipped them from Germany but from an APO. In Germany if you sell one item, it is considered a business transaction and therefore subject to payment of taxes under the German law. By selling an item and shipping through an APO instead of from the German Post Office you a43 1. not paying the taxes on selling an item (stuff here has the taxes built in at the store, you don’t pay a tax rate on top of the cost you see) and 2. it violates Army policies and regulations violating APO shipping. The US government has an agreement w/the German government stating that it will NOT allow any of its soldiers or family members circumvent paying taxes by conducting business shipping through APO.
If it was a gift, and no money was exchanged, then shipping MPS/APO would be no problem. I would LOVE to send the items back, but she won’t pay for the return shipping. I’m going to the post office tomorrow to speak with them to see if I can mail them back for free also. DH’s in-processing is fresh in his mind and they got a customs/SOFA brief. IDK if she realizes what she did, but DH is very interested now because he has a high sense of integrity. |
| 02-23-2009, 02:46 PM | #38 |
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Re: What do you think is fair here?
I shipped them back today. I believe she was being dishonest because of the way she worded the ad (which I have screenshotted for the Mods). She was also rude in how she handled things, insisting that when you buy off fsot you should expect things to come stained and not as they were promised because they are used. IDK about you but that’s not how I see FSOT.
I’m supposed to get updated w/the outcome of the investigation into her shipping so we’ll see what the Postmaster and Customs here say when it’s all said and done. She could not only be fined by Customs but she could lose all of her APO privileges (meaning she would lose her US address). IDK if that was an oversight on her part, but all of our spouses are specifically briefed when they get here in their orientation about the German laws and the Customs rules regarding APO/FPO and MPS. My problem is that I believe people when they say things. I take them at their word. I like to believe that people are good and don’t do dishonest things. Maybe I should just stop doing that. I would rather not believe that people would treat other people that way but I guess I should be less naive. |
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Re: What do you think is fair here?
OMG she left me retaliatory feedback!!
I’m “particular” for not wanting stain free diapers when she advertised them as stain free??!?!?!?!? |
| Yesterday, 03:35 PM | #58 |
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Re: What do you think is fair here?
Well I’m livid. I don’t in any way deserve neutral feedback, I’ve done nothing wrong but catch her in a lie…. WTF was she thinking? That’s against TOU here…
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