Don’t ‘cha think? You REALLY think you have room to talk about Shady WAHMs? Really? Seeing as this is name #5 (or is it 6?) on DS, at least 5 on HC, and at least 5 on CDN. Talk about being shady. It’s A Snap is really a shady WAHM who shouldn’t be open or selling anywhere. She was banned from multiple names for both buying and selling on HC this week too. Including Rags and Rebels.

Here is a short list of her running emails:

06-09-2010, 06:45 AM #26
Labe90 // <![CDATA[//
Registered Users
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 843
Ratings: 17
Feedback: 100%
My Mood:

Re: Kookabums going slow….

If admin doesn’t do something about her, what is to keep ALL shady WAHM’s from starting to do business like this? Advertise here but don’t actually sell here. That way when you get bad feedback here there are no repercussions. Crazy.

Janine, Sewing & Knitting Mama to two blessings, Janome 204D Serger, My ISO PM me for FFS tester items!

(ETA We found this VIA photobucket photos on both accounts)

Here are 2 of her many appearances here:

  1. naturalmamadot says:

    Wow already banned

  2. Just Peachy says:

    I have to wonder how sad is her life that she keeps on trying?

  3. smartassmama says:

    Lame90 really sticks out in my mind. I’ll have to read some to find out why.

  4. mamaton says:

    LMAO- She’s never gonna give up.

    #2- Those were my exact thoughts when reading the post.

    Way off the topic but-

    I have to thank you ladies for directing me to CDN as well. I โค it over there.

  5. kimbella says:

    So, what does anyone know about andreax3 from DS?

    She just tried to scam me and at least one other person as mama2myluvs.

    She had over 600 positive FB before she got several negatives and was banned as andreax3.

    Any info?????

  6. kimbella says:

    She was also Green.Mommy on DS and on Spots she’s clothlovinmamaof2 and andreax3.

  7. organicmomma says:

    A bit off topic, but if you were sold a new style fuzzibunz that included inserts and shipping in that 8 dollars what would you expect the conditon to be?

  8. organicmomma says:

    Oh, and pp fees…

  9. naturalmamadot says:

    I would expect the condition to be exactly and precisely how it was described and pictured. Being prepared for people to get one over on anyone they can, I would of asked detailed questions if they werent already volunteered as well as clear detailed pictures if they werent already provided.

    Anything less I would expect a refund, return the product and probably leave at least neutral feedback. Its not hard to use your little eyes and type up how the fucking diaper looks.

  10. naturalmamadot says:

    Oh and no snark towards you organicmomma haha, I am just sick of people who think the buyer wont notice or wont care and Im sick of buyers that go off of a one word description, blurry dark unfocused pic and then bitch they got a piece of shit.

  11. Redhead says:

    are you the buyer or seller, OM?

  12. noname says:

    DSDM2 or whoever owns this page, please email me.

    I have more important info regarding this. ๐Ÿ™‚

    Please do not approve this comment and do not post that it was me.

    I want to stay out of this but I got an email about it.

    So, Please email me. Thank you.

  13. noname says:

    DSDM2 or whoever owns this page, please email me.

    I have more important info regarding this. ๐Ÿ™‚

  14. organicmomma says:

    seller…i used the dipes and this woman is new on DS and freaking out saying the pul was shot…and i’m like ummm…no…it said in the ad that the fleece and pul were thin, the elastic was loose and that we used them and didn’t have any problems EVER!!! I’m just fucking sick of dumbass people trying to be all oh, i’m sending this back and i’m like we.never.had.a.problem…i sent you a diaper that reflected the condition in the price…they were pretty much FFS diapers…I didn’t want to sell to her in the first place, bc she was new, but did it anyways bc i wanted the diapers out of here…she bought a 3rd one for 8 dollars(assuming on her end that’s how much it was) when i wanted at least 10 for it, but i let it slide cause i just wanted them out…

  15. Redhead says:

    Well, $10 isn’t FFS… neither is $8 for just one diaper. JMO, I’d say FFS for one diaper is like.. $4.

    Has she actually tried to use the diapers or did she just look at them and think they wouldn’t work?

  16. organicmomma says:

    she said she tried to use one…you are right, it’s a little more than ffs…the 3rd one wasn’t supposed to be ffs or 8 dollars, it was in EEEUC…They were supposed to be close to ffs…total for the 2 dipes was 16ppd…that’s 2 dollars pp fees, 2 dollars for each of the inserts, 2 for the polymailer and about 5 for shipping it was more with the other diaper though, cause it was heavy and had to go priority i also got dc…so, i made about 3 dollars…and lost about 3 dollars on the other dipe…

  17. Redhead says:

    Did she send PP a weird way? Because your fees for $16 should have only be 76 cents based off the calculator I use.

    Anyway, I buy polymailers off DS or ebay for like 20cents or less each.. you should maybe buy some in bulk (I buy 25 at a time) and it saves SO much $$.

  18. kimbella says:

    12: If you told her that the the fleece and PUL were thin and that the elastic was loose, she should have decided whether or not to buy based on that.

    Is she saying they leak? Did she wash them?

    Any PUL diaper I buy used gets water poured into it first thing out of the package to test the PUL. I’ve had a few leak straight through. Have the buyer do that. If the diapers are leaking for her, it could be because of the loose elastic, which you disclosed.

  19. sciencefair says:

    14 – I don’t know where you are doing your math onstuff, but its way off. Maybe you should try this place to figure out paypal fees.

    And considering how many things you are buying and selling, I am surprised you are paying $2 per polymailer. I reuse them if I can, and if not I have bought some for about 12 cents each.

    And I don’t know how heavy you think those diapers are, but I sent 4 onesize fitteds with doubles for less than $4 with usps.

  20. organicmomma says:

    I gave her 8 dollars just to make her go away..I think i’m with the other mama who only sells to people with 5 or more feedbacks from now on…and maybe with the other mama we featured…maybe i should say something like…I am only human..i do not own a microscope but will disclose all diapers to the best of my ability…no refunds accepted…

  21. organicmomma says:

    You are right, i went and check pp fees were a dollar…i was a dollar off…I live in a small town and polymailers are SUPER expensive here…

  22. Just Peachy says:

    Try the dollar store or order some online.

  23. organicmomma says:

    It’s rediculous, if i send out 5 things, that’s 10 plus tax just in polymailers…the ones i get sent to me are always so taped up that i can’t reuse them…I had her check it was 4 dollars…then DC is 80 cents, and for some reason, they make me send a lot of stuff priority…If i sent out 4 fitteds they would def make me send it priority saying it’s too heavy…do you just ship through the po?

  24. organicmomma says:

    We don’t have a dollar store…we only have walmart and walgreens that sends polymailers…

  25. Redhead says:

    Ship online- get a scale at walmart and print your own labels. Way cheaper than the PO.

  26. organicmomma says:

    Anyways…the point was, i disclosed everything she is complaining about and still sent her a refund, regardless of how much everything was…

  27. organicmomma says:

    redhead-what happens when it gets to the po and it’s too heavy to ship first class…I’m really confused, is this not normal?

  28. organicmomma says:

    OOps, sells polymailers…

  29. Just Peachy says:

    You really like to bitch alot on here don’t ya? Its just one thing after another with you now isn’t it?

  30. shelbell says:

    Back to andreax3. I’ve done several transactions with her and never had a problem, makes me sad that she’s flipped to scammer. I know her son has some special needs but not sure specifically what. She’s also on cdn as andrea2x2. What makes someone with 600+ feedback become a scammer?

  31. DSDM2 says:

    organic mama, I’m not following you. For and $8 FB, I would expect something decent.

    As for your breakdown on cost. I don’t have much sympathy, you are spending way too much by choice. For shipping from home, you weigh the package (a $4 kitchen scale at walmart is fine for this), and pay for the appropriate postage (FC, PM, Media, Overnight, etc) at that time based on weight, I have never had a package returned for incorrect postage. You also get an online discount from paypal if you use their shipping service.

    You can buy poly mailers online on ebay of from DS moms for less then $.30 each.

    The postman comes to your door for most packages depending on where you live. So no gas cost.

    If you are paying that high in PP fees you are getting screwed. You should have been around $.80 for that transaction.

    So for 3 FBs with inserts, you should have spent about $4 maybe $5 on the transaction total.

  32. DSDM2 says:

    To the person that sent me the private message, my YIM is DSDM2

  33. Redhead says:

    FC is up to 13 oz I think? Then you can choose parcel or priority.

  34. kimbella says:

    Do the mods from CDN read here? So that the know to keep a watch on the andrea2x2 chick?

  35. sciencefair says:

    32, yes they do. I will PM one of them though.

  36. kimbella says:

    Ok – It doesn’t look like she’s trying to sell anything there, at least not for a while. Maybe she knows better than to mess with CDN. ๐Ÿ™‚

  37. sciencefair says:

    Yeah well I PM’d a mod with a linky to come check it out and the name. If its really a problem, they might call her out anyway. They have done that to people before.

  38. naturalmamadot says:

    Um organicmomma, the point of the scale is that you WEIGH it and know what to send it as, first class, priority…then you buy polymailers in bulk as little as 25 for an order and they are CHEAP and then you just stick it in the mailbox. I actually order mailing labels too because they are super cheap and make my time and day SO MUCH EASIER.
    Whether or not you do this is up to you, you can print to a blank white piece of paper, cut the label out and tape it to the package on each edge/over the entire label with like the wide packaging tape.

  39. kimbella says:

    Is having 4 different names on DS considered a problem? lol!

    And scamming?

  40. Aj says:

    Ha! I was wondering when everyone was going to start getting tired of OM.

  41. Melanie says:

    I know I have been able to fit three FB and their inserts in a flat-rate envelope, with no problem. FREE delivery confirmation (as long as you ship thru PP) and a FREE envelope! Can’t beat that!

  42. Melanie says:

    Oops! That was me above. Wrong email.

  43. noisybean says:

    GOING to start getting tired? Sheesh.

  44. melmelly says:

    Dang! I had two comments that went to moderation. Didn’t realize until now just how messed up my name and email were!

    Anyway, flat-rate envelopes are FREE and so is delivery confirmation when you ship thru paypal. And I have been able to fit three FB and their inserts in a flat-rate envelope.

    Now will this comment post? ๐Ÿ˜‰

  45. Sneaky says:

    Anybody follow the momx3xoxox/conservativemommy69 drama?? Apparently an IRL stalker of a member. Holy crap!!

  46. .bin. says:

    OM: you seem to have a lot of transactions that go bad. Maybe it’s not always about the other party, mmm?

  47. Just Peachy says:

    #38 I been tired of her for a while but this is the last straw. I hate to go all mean girl on her, but really in any of the posts she has made has she ever NOT bitched about a transaction?

  48. scissorattack says:

    So glad a new thread got started. My fingers were starting to hurt when I had to scroll down so much when lurking on my phone. Its nice to see that others are noticing an issue with someone from my do not B/S/T list too. I thought maybe I was wrong with that judgement but I’m glad to see I’m not alone. And many thanks for introducing the term twatwaffle to my vocabulary. I have a hayday with it and my SILs!

  49. melmelly says:

    Peachy, I am glad I am not the only one that noticed that. I was beginning to think that it was me. I was going to say something a while ago, but thought it over and decided not too.

  50. moxy says:

    OM: You said this about your diapers – “fleece and PUL were thin” and “loose elastic”, then said they were “EEEUC”

  51. kimbella says:

    35 – sciencefair

    Another mama contacted me yesterday saying that the same item mama2myluvs / andrea2x2 sold to me and traded to someone else was also sold to her.

    She’s filed and escalated with PP.

    There was only ONE of the item.

  52. Redhead says:

    Yeah OM…. What 47 said. Were they really used (thin PL/Fleece) or EEUC?

    I don’t want to nag on you forever, but you mentioned to me that you’ve had a lot of bad transactions lately, on both the buyer and seller ends..
    Are you just not being careful who you are in transactions with, or is something else going on?

  53. smartassmama says:

    42 – have a link? ๐Ÿ˜‰

  54. Pork Slapper says:

    #47 & #49 – She was *not* saying the โ€œfleece and PUL were thinโ€/โ€œloose elasticโ€ dipes were the same as the โ€œEEEUCโ€ dipes. They were two different lots.

  55. Redhead says:

    51.. ?? She only mentioned one buyer.

  56. Redhead says:

    Ok, I think I know what you’re talking about now.
    One buyer.
    Some of the diapers were very used and 1 was EEUC.
    So the buyer is complaining about the very used diapers and not the EEUC one?

  57. moxy says:

    51. OK, I see. Doh.
    She’s still annoying.

  58. CJ says:

    I would just like to thank DoDS for putting Alanis Morrisette’s annoying Ironic song in my head with this post title. ugh. It’s almost as obnoxious as the subject of this blog post.

  59. MotherMoonPads says:

    I have a question about Spots. Is it “okay” to list items as the 3 day time frame and then relist as to “bump” the items up?” Or is that frowned on? Just want to make sure I’m not doing a no-no *blush*

  60. zamgrawrz says:

    Tbh, you don’t even need a scale. I couldn’t find one cheap enough and I don’t ship very often so I just run by the post office and weigh it there. I might be lucky though, we have an automated postal service center and I can just weigh it and ship it on my own. Usually. If the package is too big they just have to be open so I can hand it to the peeps behind the counter, but I don’t even have to wait in line for it.

    So, weigh stuff at the post office (or even in a store, haha) if you don’t want to buy a scale, go to paypal, print postage from there using the weight you got at the PO, free DC, drop it in the mailbox or request a pick up or something. I always drop it off at the PO though, I guess I’m weird…

  61. DSDM2 says:

    MMP, it is fine as long as you let the listing expire.

  62. amessymama says:

    55-I know!! I keep finding my self saying, “Dontcha think?” every time I come on. lol That is not a good song to have stuck in my head.

  63. MotherMoonPads says:

    Thanks #58. They do expire before I relist, so I should be good then ๐Ÿ™‚

  64. JustMe says:

    LOL at Peachy’s “Active Contributor” status at DS.

  65. Just Peachy says:

    I thought that was pretty funny too hehehe.

  66. smartassmama says:

    While waiting at the deli counter I read up on comments. And I’m still singing the ‘rain on your wedding day’ verse. ๐Ÿ˜€

    As far as shipping, I’m moderately PO illiterate. But I happened to find out that the PO in the community 5 minutes from my house is much more user friendly. the postmaster is the one and only employee, super nice, and goes out of her way to help me ship, and the place is never busy. I think the recent USPS money troubles might threaten to close hers, so she’s glad to see business. I’m lucky.

  67. CJ says:

    I’m in Canada where shipping sucks and I still manage to do almost everything from home. I just use a kitchen scale that I bought for $10 and one of my bajillion tape measures that are lying around anyway. I print shipping labels from home which gives me a 5% discount on postage rates and then I just drop the packages at a postal box when I am out running errands. The only time that I need to go in to the PO is if the package is too heavy for my scale.

  68. Hexe says:

    #42 link? Ds or CDN?

  69. magpiedpiper says:

    Thank goodness others finally piped up about how annoying OM is.

  70. Just Peachy says:

    Nuts now I don’t feel speshul anymore ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

  71. naturalmamadot says:

    lmao Jen

  72. kimbella says:

    Why is Nikkiof5 still allowed to bst on Spots?????

  73. ลพรกba says:

    Sometimes I think I am just too sensitive so I don’t say anything, but OM did seem to be a major complainer to me. I can count on one hand how many transactions I have had that have gone awry on one hand. I think I would need two hands and a foot to keep track of hers in the last few months.

  74. Redhead says:

    Well Stacie/OM deleted me off her FB this afternoon.
    I haven’t even said anything to her about this privately. Guess she didn’t like it that I wasn’t running to defend her this time… ?

    (Stacie, I am sure you’re reading.. care to explain?)

  75. altaem says:

    Okay…I admit my brain is fried for the day. Is Labe90 It’s a Snap? I bought some fabric from her awhile back and got it quickly, no problems. She hardly had any FB at that time and I remember being a little hesitant, but she even sent a really sweet note in my package.

  76. altaem says:

    And who was Chica? And CuriousElephant?

  77. altaem says:

    Okay, I read that Chica was katydidit, but that means nothing to me. Did anyone figure out who they both were? Anyone?

    And I ask about CuriousElephant because she posted something calling Chica out on another thread and has very few posts herself…

  78. imasupernova says:

    I got in contact with H2BAM about Chica but she wasn’t around when the BAN happened…

    Where did you read she was Katydidit?

  79. ladylili says:

    I rarely post here but I’m so glad other people are annoyed by OM! It’s nice to know others feel that way.

  80. kimbella says:

    Chica/Kadydidit was previously the banned member ZandICo:

    And, she also registered under the name skadoo:

    She used the same photobucket account when posting pics on DS – that’s how I found her out.

  81. organicmomma says:

    You alll are such bitches…You cant keep to yourselves…??? well here you go….you wan the rest of the shit i’ve had on my plate for the last month??? reallly???You are sick….!/photo.php?pid=5913973&id=658611423

  82. naturalmamadot says:

    lol its private or deleted. Either way what do you mean you cant keep to yourselves? You POSTED HERE. TO. US.

    *I* havent been reading the comments on here in a while so *I* have no knowledge of your supposedly common bst issues but why would you having a lot on your plate have anything to do with repeated bst problems or constant complaining?

    Like I said I have no clue what you have said and I dont feel like searching through other blog posts but if THAT many people noticed, maybe you should look back and see how many times you have been constructively talking to them versus how many times you have been complaining about a transaction gone bad.

  83. organicmomma says:

    You sick fucking bitches…find something else to do with ur time….โ€ฆ.!/photo.php?pid=5913973&id=658611423

  84. amessymama says:

    Still not working.

    You seem to have forgotten all of the time that you, yourself have been wasting here.

  85. Just Peachy says:

    You need to get the fuck over yourself with a quickness. Maybe if you would pull your head out of your ass for a second you would realize “Gee maybe me posting all these FSOT issues I am having on a blog dedicated to outing scammers is not the brightest idea”. BTW its not fucking Tuesday. Come back in another 4 days then run your mouth mmmkay?

  86. Smartassmama says:

    Clueless couch here.

  87. organicmomma says:

    Oh peachy…YOU ARE THE BEST!!!! I could not imagine anyone better than you….wow that would be really hard to imagine…you are sooooo…super loved…mmmm…give me a scweeeench….yummmmmm…back off…bitch….

  88. naturalmamadot says:

    lol Peachy, she just couldnt wait that long to be a twat, its really hard suppressing all that for very long dontcha know. Im sure she will still be around on Tuesday though, they always stick around even after its clear they are far from wanted.

  89. organicmomma says:

    wow naturalmamadot good way to try to fit in..gang up on someone else…You ARE SUPER COOL!!! ARE YOU FAT? I BET YOU ARE…NO ONE MAKES FUN OF OTHERS UNLESS THEY FEEL SHITTY ABOUT THEMSELVELS…..

  90. organicmomma says:

    peach…take a pill…I’m sorry you have issues also…that is a very sad thing….good-bye to you also…I have no room for you in my life…bu-bye…

  91. Flat Stainley says:

    What happened on FB, OM? Who shat on your plate?

  92. naturalmamadot says:

    Well, if you noticed, I wasnt a bitch to you until you flipped out like a fucking psychopath. Maybe when you grow up a little and learn to control your big girl emotions you will be able to see that.

  93. melmelly says:

    WOW! Way to go OM! :thumbs up:

    Really showing your colors now, aren’t ya?

    Kinda like several weeks ago when you went and posted on a dead thread on CDN, you flipped out on everyone. Several of us here tried to calm you down, and several of us from here went over there to back you up.

    And when one speaks up about your transactions always having an issue, and others follow? You flip out on us for trying to, yet again, help you?

    Sorry sweetie. You really need to take a seat on the couch and take a long look at the condition of ALL the diapers you have used, number them, put the number on a piece of paper, along with a VERY detailed description and condition of each and every diaper. Take pics of any flaws. Hopefully then you won’t have near as many problems as you claim to have now.

    Good luck.

    Oh, and no need to tell me to fuck off. I know you will probably say that to me as well.

    Thumbs up and good vibes to you!


  94. Redhead says:

    Sorry OM. Life is life, whether you are having a crappy one or not. You need to choose how you’re going to deal with it. Obviously, you’re not dealing with it well right now.. and posting all your problems on a public forum is the reason you were questioned earlier (though you accuse me of posting all your personal information here.. which I haven’t found yet).

    You’re an adult. You have young children and a husband. Time to grow up. Sitting around calling people fat because you’re angry or blasting anyone because we questioned your ethics really only shows that you’ve got serious issues with maturity and doesn’t make you look like the best person to do a transaction with whatsoever.

  95. .bin. says:

    whoa… someone lost her shit pretty quickly.

    Good job OM proving that you’re the idiot we suspected. But I’m curious about the mysterious facebook links. Are you saying you don’t need the stress of this with what you’re dealing with, or are you saying it’s not your fault you keep effing up transactions because of all the stress?

  96. .bin. says:

    oh and before you ask, yes I am fat. There ya go, some fodder for you.

  97. sciencefair says:

    I am fat too! Please add me to your list of people to make up fun comments about. Other things that might help you? I ‘accidentally’ deleted some PMs between us so I wouldn’t have to respond to you.

    Let the games begin.

  98. mylilgirls says:

    Dear OM-

    I wasn’t going to say anything, but the opportunity has presented itself so I may as well……I’ve never done anything for someone with the expectation of something in return, BUT if you have enough time to complain about several transactions in DoDS have enough time to spend hours on DS and CDN, then you have enough time to send a one liner simple ‘thank you’ email to someone that sent you a med FRB box full of gently used and hardly used diapers ffs. I honestly wish those diapers had gone to someone that would have been appreciative of them. Fortunately, I sent out 4 other boxes similar to yours and at least they took the time to acknowledge they received the package and included a simple thanks.

    Now here you are spouting off at the mouth calling all the posters on here fat bitches. Wow. Just. Wow. Need I remind you of how much you’ve contributed to this blog?

    The skinny bitch that sent you free stuff…..enjoy.

  99. Smartassmama says:

    Um. Wow?
    Sometimes I’m not that observant, so my weirdo warning was never triggered with you. I seem to remember you saying that you had something going on, but unless your issues lie in a link that takes me directly back to my own news feed, then I’ll have to deal with the fact that I’m gonna remain clueless.

    I’ve forgotten the context of your “all mean bitches are fat” line, but I will sit her for a secong with my mouth hanging open, slaking my head in bewilderment (( :-O )). Because that didn’t make any sense. I doubt I’ve been rude to you, and I’ll freely admit that I’m a fatass. So, there ya go.

    I must be the one to break it to you though, I guess. All that CAPS lock, screaming nuts stuff, well, you look like one of our good Tuesday friends who shall rename mainless. All I’m saying.

    And don’t even result to the ‘find something else to do/go take care of your kids” business. Really, just don’t.

    Whatver is sour in your life right now, I hope you can get that sorted out. And maybe you just need to pretend you never saw the comments about yourself.

  100. DSDM2 says:


    WTH crawled up your ass and died? So what if some internet ladies don’t like you? (And to let you know, you have been on my radar for a while with your BST transactions. I was civil in my response above, but that was hard not to talk about more.)

    To be honest, you acted like an IDIOT on CDN when you joined, I’m surprised the mamas let you continue to post there. Really.

    On top of that, I don’t like what you are doing on DS and other sites. Begging moms for products for FFS or a cheap as you can get them b/c you are so poor, and life is so hard, and then turning around and getting expensive stuff on FST and flipping diapers is bull shit. And not even a thank you to the moms who lost money by selling to you? Now that is twatty.

    You need to step back. These women do not forgive lightly, and you are digging one hell of a hole.


    PS: And for the record, I am not fat, (although by your standards, you must be one of the fattest bitches alive).

  101. eeek says:

    What a charmer you are, OM. I’ll admit, there were times when I read your posts about your BST-ing and I thought you were already defending against some accusation that I must have missed, WTH else would you be bringing this embarrassing crap up? Aren’t you embarrassed by it? We all would be, that’s why I mention it.

    You should feel badly and be questioning yourself when your transactions are always so slightly shady, when your position is so generally indefensible. You shouldn’t feel OK with telling us how much everyone who BSTs with you is pissed off (but THEY’RE wrong). Whole world’s crazy, and picking on YOU!

    And the tantrum, bravo. I would have just continued ignoring you, I find it the best way to deal with the people who bug the crap out of me. Then they tend to just go away. However, you’ve been called on your shit and it was a truthful calling out. Admit it & work on it or STFU & move on, try to find some group that doesn’t think you’re a self-righteous shady whiner.

  102. organicmomma says:

    #94-I do thank you for the diapers…they were for my friend…unfortunately, she couldn’t use them, as her baby passed 2 hours after having it…I passed them to another mama on DS who pm’d me saying that she really needed diapers…I gave every single one to her…but I do thank you very much…I am sorry I forgot about it…

  103. organicmomma says:

    I mean 98..

  104. ladylili says:

    Well that was entertaining.

  105. magpiedpiper says:

    I am writing a sentence. I use proper punctuation. I use periods after each sentence rather than improperly using ellipsis. Please learn how to use periods.

  106. amessymama says:

    102-About that friend. I kind of had my doubts about that story from the beginning but felt bed bringing it up. Because what if it is true? Well, you seem to have shown your crazy brilliantly, so I’ll do it now.

    This seems incredibly unlikely. Baby dies on June 7, they hold the memorial on June 8, and on June 9 you say, “Thanks for the prayers and positive thoughts for my friend mama’s. It seems they are working. They said they were happy. I thank all of you so much.”

    Really? They were happy 3 days after their baby died?

    So is it true or were you just making it up so you could resell those diapers?

  107. kimbella says:

    That does seem odd how quickly the memorial service, etc were.

    My cousin’s LO passed away recently, and it was several days between the time of his passing and his funeral. One day was for the autopsy – isn’t an autopsy SOP when an infant dies, even if cause of death was known?

  108. imasupernova says:

    106 – the link OM posted above was to this profile on facebook *DSDM2 removed rest of link*

    I have no idea if this is OM or if this is her friend.

    It is showing the baby passed May 8.

  109. amessymama says:

    She did say that she had 2 friends that had experienced a loss recently. This must be the first one. So that one is true. How sad. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

    What about the other one, OM? The one that I was referring to in my post? The one from June 7th?

  110. Redhead says:

    May 8th?!

    That is someone OM is friends with…. I just checked the friends list.

  111. amessymama says:

    Wow. I would be very hurt if my “friend” was using my tragic story to try and score free stuff to sell for profit.

  112. Sala says:

    I can tell you that I sure as hell wasn’t happy with anyone or anything three days after. A month later I wasn’t happy if anyone or anything reminded me of our loss.

    You can sign off on the autopsy if natural causes are known or suspected.

    And In some cases, the funeral can be very quick, i.e. for practicing Jews. But not that quickly.

  113. nu says:

    Clueless couch, I don’t even know who organicmomma is on DS or CDN.

    If I paid $8 for a used FB, it better not have worn out PUL. That being said, I did get a FB one time that the PUL was clearly worn. The mama said she wasn’t aware of it. I did get a partial refund. I should have sent it back, but oh well. I just made sure I didn’t use it for naps/bedtime.

    That was 1 out of 80+ transactions.
    I try my very best to disclose every flaw on a diaper. I’ve even given a mama $$back because I noticed a snag as I was packing it up. COMMUNICATION with the buyer/seller is so important.

  114. organicmomma says:

    I didn’t sell the diapers…ask meghann..i gave them away ffs. Any other diapers i got went to the other mama that lost her baby FOR FREE! i left her a huge bag at her door. I have had two friends that lost a baby in the last couple monthes…ok?!

  115. Redhead says:

    Ladies, humor me a moment- have I posted any personal information on OM that wasn’t already mostly public knowledge?
    I am receiving messages from her on FB that I have ‘outed’ her and shared personal info that was only known between me & her.

  116. smartassmama says:

    I would be upset if a friend were trying to send strangers to my Facebook to illustrate why I lost my shit and got all cookoo bananas on the net. Good thing the picture/post was friends only after all.

  117. smartassmama says:

    115. Nope.

  118. organicmomma says:

    There you go. Take a look at 113 meghann. She didn’t know. So, you did post info that some people didn’t know.

  119. smartassmama says:

    She still hasn’t said what your DS name is. You’ve disclosed your CDN name.
    And she just now mentioned that she didn’t (and doesn’t) know. You’ve been accusing Redhead of posting your personal information for more than the last 8 minutes, so it looks like you are grasping at straws.

    Maybe you should just chill and spend the weekend with family and IRL friends instead of digging your hole here.

  120. amessymama says:

    115-Not that I noticed. Has she told you what you supposedly outed about her?

    Besides, what is there to “out” anymore? She certainly outed her crazy all by herself.

  121. magpiedpiper says:

    Uh, I think 113 was just saying that you weren’t on her radar. IIRC, your username is the same here and on CDN at least. So no way she could “out” you about that. You chose to have the same UN. YOU are the one who tried to link to your FB page, not redhead.

    Unstable much?

  122. Redhead says:

    120- Because I said her name “Stacie”.

  123. organicmomma says:

    OK, this is just stupid. I have done nothing to hurt any of you. Keep going on with it if you want. I don’t care. I have had 2 bad transactions that were my fault. Like none of you have EVER made a mistake? Really? I respond after a whole day of y’all coming at me and I’ve lost it? Put yourselves in someone elses shoes. How would you feel? Geez. Go take care of your kids or something instead of sitting here bashing people to make yourselves feel better. All ffs diapers were given away either back to ffs or GIVEN to my friend as a gift. Show me where I sold them.

  124. Sala says:

    There we go! Fat asses who ignore our kids! Gotta love being told to care for our kids instead of ‘bashing’ people.

  125. Redhead says:

    Oh the mighty “go take care of your kids” line. :clap clap:

    Putting myself in your shoes, I’d say you need to stop FSOTing and focus on other things. Out of 800+ transactions on ebay/Etsy/DS in the last 4 years, I have had maybe 5 bad transactions where the seller did not ship me something and I had to file.
    I have never screwed something up on my end. Not to say I am perfect, but I make an effort to check everything.

    And calling people fat b*tches earlier then coming back saying this is stupid, is really not making sense. You brought this upon yourself. Do you just expect everyone to say “Oh, ok OM.. you have had it rough so we’ll go easy on you.”? They did that on CDN the last time you blew a gasket.. probably isn’t happening again.

  126. organicmomma says:

    Why must you bash people? I guess that’s what this site is for. No matter what I say, you guys will say I’m crazy, or doing something wrong. Look how many comments I’ve posted and then how many you guys have posted. it’s how many against one. I’ve learned my lesson for sure. I feel awful I ever came here and said anything about anyone. So, I’m done now. You all can keep going if you like.

  127. eeek says:

    It’s heartwrenching when one’s friends have tragic losses. What does that have to do with being bad at BST-ing though? Jackassicality is not excused by being sad. She’s a fairly reliably bad seller by her own facts, she just doesn’t admit there’s anything wrong with treating people like that.

    If she did everything right and was NOT self-righteously attitudinal and say, was slow on shipping due to attending memorials or whatever, of course people would understand. This is not even close to that. This is OM bringing up someone else’s tragedy to try to get slack from a community that feels that sort of loss deeply. Her class is shining through, clearly.

  128. Redhead says:

    You just did your fair share of bashing, OM. Stop trying to turn the tables.

  129. amessymama says:

    You’ve only had 2 bad transactions? Maybe it’s because you had mentioned them repeatedly, but I seem to remember many, many, posts about your bad transactions?

    Hmmm, where were your kids while you withered away the hours posting over and over again about your 2 transactions?

  130. smartassmama says:

    123 – you oughtta just go ahead and change your user name to something more along the lines of “OrganicsJourney.” Seriously?

    “Geez. Go take care of your kids or something instead of sitting here bashing people to make yourselves feel better.”

    Other than cunt, I think that first one is the favorite word for those sipping on the crazy syrup, and then the next line. Seriously? Really? We might be mean kettles, but you’re an equally active pot.

    And I guess it’s safe to say that you can now kiss my FAT ass. ๐Ÿ™‚

  131. smartassmama says:

    eeek, your use of the word Jackassicality has made 127 my favorite post of the day. I think I love it, and I will have to use it in a sentence today. My husband is going to think I’m nuts. lol

  132. eeek says:

    You bashed yourself. I am looking only at the facts you gave yourself, the tenor of the posts you made, and the way you’ve handled this whole thing by exploding in anger at people who honestly reacted to your posts. Nothing anyone else said made me think you were a big ol’ twatwaffle, it was all you.

  133. Sala says:

    I haven’t been bashing. But I don’t like it when people who dish it can’t take it. You fuck up? Fine. Make it right and DON’T DO IT AGAIN. We all screw up. You have messed up more than once. So our ability to gloss over your mistakes lessens because you’ve done it again.

    Worse yet, you’re unrepentant. This is a blog that exposes scammers and people we do not wish to B/S/T with. By your own admission, you have messed up more than once. That kinda puts you on the do not B/S/T list, you know? Especially the attitude. People screw up, fine, but don’t go bitching about how you messed up and how people expect you to make it right. That doesn’t fly here. Not even for someone who posts here.

  134. eeek says:

    hehe, I like that one too smartassmama. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  135. amessymama says:

    Next she’s going to go to DS and make a post about how sad she is that there is a blog dedicated to bashing DS and its members.
    Then she can get her asspats.

    That’s what usually happens, right?

  136. Munklettes says:

    153, you can bet your sweet tits, she will! Somebody link it when she does, please!

  137. Munklettes says:

    Uhhh, 135, not 153…. unless I’m psychic now, and can see into the future, lol

  138. nu says:

    No one outed you. I just didn’t know who you were on CDN or DS, but to be honest the only ones I “know” on DS/CDN are just a few.

    You said a friend lost a baby. A CDN search lead the way. I now know who you are, but does it really matter who you are IRL? Chances are we won’t ever bst with eachother, so no worries for me.

    I don’t think anyone is bashing. I’ve seen comments go full circle and in the end everything is fine. Just that they pointed out that it seems like you might need to relook at your bst transactions.

    (note to… self, better go… change my siggy…)

  139. MotherMoonPads says:

    It is my personal goal today to be posy #153 now ๐Ÿ™‚

  140. zamgrawrz says:

    OM, you messed up and got on people’s radar. Why wouldn’t you either A.) admit to fucking up and try to prevent it from happening again or B.) just fly low for awhile and ignore it? Not that the latter approach is the greatest, but its a hell of a lot better than coming on here flipping out and calling people names. Real classy.

    And I’m chubby. And could care less. I like food, it tastes good. But go ahead and call me a fat ass if it makes you feel better about yourself.

  141. nu says:

    122-you did? LOL I didn’t even notice that.

    You start linking Facebook pages then you are asking for people to know more into your life!

  142. theinvisible says:

    LOL. I’ve been reading here for almost two years and I’ve NEVER seen a regular poster go all flip side like this. Talk about letting your crazy show.

  143. Redhead says:

    Nu- I did at post 74.

  144. Just Peachy says:

    First off yes I do have issues thank you very much. But I do my best to not show my crazy on here mmmkay. You could take a lesson from alot of these ladies on here because we all have our own issues we are dealing with yet somehow by the grace of God we don’t end up flipping out and calling everyone on here fat asses and telling them to go take of their kids.
    Btw I totally knew she was gonna go for that line.

  145. iken says:

    #76–I am not sure who CuriousElephant is/was but she recognized a scammer from another site.

  146. Redhead says:

    You know Stacie, changing your name ASAP on DS is REALLY scammy looking after this mess.

  147. Redhead says:

    Besides, how did they even allow you to change your name? Make up some drama story about being stalked or something..?

  148. amessymama says:

    What’d she change it to?

    If she knows where you live, you may not want to answer. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  149. Redhead says:

    I’m not afraid of her. But I doubt she knows my address anyway.

    She is now “AutumnStar” on DS. There.. I posted something personal, so she has something real to complain about.

  150. amessymama says:

    Thanks. ๐Ÿ™‚

    How could someone who has been posting here (a lot) for any amount of time, think it would work to change her name?

  151. kitty1163 says:

    Funny thing is … didn’t she out herself at one point? I don’t know her from Adam but I knew her name was Staciestar something on DS. Because she SAID it at one point.

    Her lo is so flipping cute. I hate it when people lose their shit.

  152. Redhead says:

    She has outed herself before (mainly by posting transaction info, it was easy to find on DS).. but apparently doesn’t remember it now, because she accused me of doing it earlier.

  153. monkey says:

    It’s two in the morning. My son is asleep. I can’t go spend time with him right now… So HA! I am not a bad mommy, I just have insomnia.

  154. zamgrawrz says:

    I know your address Redhead. DUNDUNDUN. Totally creepy, right? Am I a stalker yet? ๐Ÿ˜›

  155. Redhead says:

    154, I think I am going to have to change my DS name now! ๐Ÿ˜‰

  156. Just Peachy says:

    How the hell is it only costing her 15 bucks a month for target brand sposies? Methinks someone isnt changing enough cus even with my toddler holding her pee we go thru 2 packs of pull ups a week.

  157. imasupernova says:

    157 she has to be lying or doesn’t have a clue really. There is no way she is spending only $15

    She is obviously trying to talk herself out of cloth. She can’t handle it…

  158. organicmomma says:

    I actually put in the name change request before this even happened. If you read the sticky, it takes a few days. I did it because I wanted my name out and to add my other daughter in..

  159. zamgrawrz says:

    Yeah, even with my hold-it-in-and-then-flood toddler we were going through more than $15 a month in sposies. Not much, but definitely more. My DD went through 2 packs of diapers in 11 days O_o That would add up soooo fast!

  160. zamgrawrz says:

    That and I pay cash for every wash and dry and its still cheaper. I just don’t wash as often as most and yeah, for me its more work, but its still saving us a ton in the long run. To me its worth the extra effort…but then I’m cheap so….

  161. Redhead says:

    OM, if that is true you have awfully bad luck that they changed it today after your YAGE here.

  162. organicmomma says:

    Go read the sticky if you don’t believe me. Really, can you all leave me be now? You’ve had your fun and your laughs. Just leave me be please. I’m not scammy, nor have I ever been.

  163. magpiedpiper says:

    A lot of couponers try to get dipes for $.09 or $.10 per diaper and stock up. So say her kid is awake 12 hrs and sleeps through the night, and she changes every two hours. That’s $.60 per day, times 30 days is still $18 per month. So in that scenario either she is changing a lot less, or actually spending more than $15.

  164. magpiedpiper says:

    Oh, just went and read that they use just the one large target box. Hmm. We’ve been using sposies while staying at the ILs and definitely go through them at a faster rate than that. I guess my dd is the culprit for being such a little water/milk drinker. In two hours she could make a sposie look like it’s been on all day.

  165. Just Peachy says:

    #165 thats how my toddler is tho lately shes been holding it and holding it then BAM instant flood. Its ridiculous cus dh pokes me about it like when was the last time she was changed and I look and Im like wth she was dry 10 minutes ago!

  166. Redhead says:

    I’m so glad my youngest is …95% PLed. ๐Ÿ˜€
    Toddler dipes are so un-enjoyable to change. :/

  167. Incognizable says:

    OM, the blog has moved on. Maybe you should too. People are talking about sposies, see posts above ๐Ÿ˜€

  168. mamaton says:

    LMAO- Just WOW…

    Well, let’s see- I’m not gonna bash anyone, but I am a fatkid by my own accord, and my kiddo is asleep in her crib at the moment, so I have time to come on here and see what’s going on. I guess Stacie (hehe had to put that in there just because I could) decided that it was ok to nut out on people…THANKS SO MUCH- you made my afternoon computer time much more interesting. Between Jackassicality and twatwaffle I’m going to have a fun evening trying to find ways to put those into my conversations with dh. hehe

  169. organicmomma says:

    See post above. Obviously they haven’t ๐Ÿ™‚

  170. Just Peachy says:

    Just go fall in a hole with snatch. You already burned your bridges here. You are not wanted here now GTFO.

  171. mamaton says:

    DD uses way more than $15 worth of diapers in a month and she’s only in them from Friday night-Monday morning (when I’m at work) so my guess is that the girl is not changing her baby nearly enough if that’s ALL she’s using.

  172. Taterbug says:

    And they won’t either, until you let it drop. Remember Shoetwat? Same deal.

  173. mamaton says:

    170- yeah we have- I just was typing that when the other conversation started. TOTALLY OVER YOU- YOU SHOULD BE TOO! KTHANXBUHBYE NOW

  174. magpiedpiper says:

    #166 – Peach, my dd is the same. lol
    The other day MIL picked her up on her lap right after dd got out of her highchair and said “Uh oh, she’s sprung a leak.” I thought, no way, I changed her like 40 minutes ago. But sure enough, it was so full that it was doing the thing where the top folds over. Crazy!

  175. Redhead says:

    OM/Stacie/Autumnstar, if you want us to stop talking about you then stop posting. You’re just stirring the pot more. Posting your bi-polar/manipulative comments left and right is only doing yourself in to be on more “do not BST” lists.

    Since you have frequented this board for a while, I figured you would already know this. Obviously not.

  176. zamgrawrz says:

    I wish my toddler would potty train but he can’t even talk yet. That and when I tried to introduce him to the potty, he screamed like a banshee. Apparently the toilet=evil monster. I think I’ve lost hope.

  177. shabbychic says:

    Holy wow. Yo, OM shush up. It would benefit you greatly.

  178. Just Peachy says:

    Mine can talk and refuses diapers but she will NOT pee on the potty. She will sit on the potty but won’t pee on it for some reason. I really don’t get it and its frustrating because I was thinking this is it for us ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

  179. magpiedpiper says:

    I wish mine would too, but we’re still working on her getting her shirt off by herself. We haven’t even gotten to pants yet, so no potty training. Kid can get her shirt stuck halfway pulled off her head and not know what to do, but she can remove the child locks from the cabinets and then put them back on. Go figure. lol

  180. Redhead says:

    177, My DD is 2.5. I tried PLing earlier, but she just didn’t want to do it. You’d think I had learned my lesson before.. DD#1 trained at 2yrs on her own, DD#3 at 3 years on her own.
    Some kids train so easily early on, and then one like mine like to wait until suddenly, one morning- bam! “Mommy, used the potty!”.. I guess they get their stubbornness from both DH and I. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  181. Redhead says:

    I mean, dd#2 trained at 3 yrs! DD #3 is 2.5. I’m confusing myself with those confusing things called numbers.

  182. sciencefair says:

    Loved the YAGE. Too bad they never stICK. Oh and OM, if you want to keep things personal you should stop using the name organicmomma everywhere. It makes it super easy to google you. ((((vibes))))

  183. smartassmama says:

    If only I knew how Twitter worked, I’d figure out how to actually see her picture. Then I’d see how skinny she is and know how sadly I pale in comparison to her, as I am such a bitter fatass with the craziez.

  184. mamaton says:

    DD (14 months) peed on the potty yesterday, but it was because I’ve been sitting her on it in the morning when I go too. She’s pooped in it once before at 11 months (only because I saw her squatting and heard the grunts). I’m hoping that she gets used to sitting on it so we can avoid the freakout later on when PLing.

  185. Aj says:

    Well OM, I’m not fat, nor do I ignore my kids. So what is my excuse? Oh yeah, I just find your whining and suck ass attitude really annoying.

  186. sourpatchbabe says:

    177 whatever you do, do NOT let your child watch that video on youtube of the doggie that fell in the toilet. Worst.parenting.decision.EVER on my part. Ducky was pooping in the stairs and behind the curtains for days afterward. He was afraid of being flushed down the potty..

  187. zamgrawrz says:

    Woot, Alaska Airlines is sending us a check for our stroller. The idiot baggage people THREW it out of the plane (while I was watching) and ruined the handles and scratched up the back.

    On a completely other topic, wth is with WAHM’s getting something all set up and then no longer communicating right before I send payment?? Its happened 3 times now with well known WAHMs ๐Ÿ˜ฆ I think its a conspiracy to keep me from spending money. Which is probably a good thing.

  188. tootrue says:

    #179 My DD (2.5) did the same thing, would sit but not pee. She did this for a month then one day BAM! She decided she had to go to the potty and 2 weeks later she’s 98% trained. That 2% is the few times a week we venture out….I’m skeerd of public restrooms…

  189. magpie says:

    Am I the only one finding it incredibly ironic that although this post was intended to be about snatch calling the kettle black it has turned into OM acting the exact way that she would have jumped all over yesterday??

  190. Redhead says:

    zamgrawrz– I got the yarn! My youngest was in awe over the “pretty colors” ๐Ÿ™‚ Thank you! I’ll leave FB on DS later tonight ๐Ÿ™‚

  191. DSDM2 says:

    OM, Here, let me lay this out for you.


    How is that? I know of at least 3 (yes THREE) women who read here who have come to me about YOU going to them and trying to get them to sell their items FFS to you.

    Now, they are all nice moms who have no problems doing that, until they see your bragging about other shit you have recently bought. Not to mention how they feel when they see your store

    I think you are a conniving twat who came here to try to get all of these women on your side and it didn’t work out for you. Now, suck it up, play nice, and perhaps we will be cool and nice back and forget about what you have done (although I doubt it).

  192. Myself says:

    I AM fat, thank you very much.

    Way to sound like Felitwat. Or are you Snatch.

    Oh and don’t forget the next thing for her to do it to clear her cookies and come back with a new username, sigh.

  193. tootrue says:

    DSDM2, can I pm you on CDN or email you? I don’t know your un there…

  194. DSDM2 says:

    Also, you have 272 posts on here in a matter of 2 months, who is the post whore? Who needs to watch their children?

  195. naturalmamadot says:

    Haha looks like she deleted her twitter. I found a facebook and myspace with her name, a baby in knit things and on a raw milk facebook page, so maybe her…she doesnt look morbidly obese but really calling ppl fat as a last ditch effort to somehow give them hurt feelers is just lame.

  196. DSDM2 says:

    I am on YIM at DSDM2. I’ll be here another 30 minutes.

  197. cdnation says:

    194 you can pm me there and I’ll make sure she gets it.


  198. naturalmamadot says:

    wow how many posts do I have on here in the last 2 months DSDM, I need to know how I compare to the almighty “mind her own business and never post because shes obviously tending to her kids”.

  199. DSDM2 says:

    About 30 or so naturalmamadot.

  200. organicmomma says:

    I have NOT scammed anyone. SERIOUSLY!!! what have I asked for ffs? I really do not remember doing that, so, I’m pretty confused. Anything I got ffs was offered up ffs and was either 1. given back that way or 2. given to my friend. Stop posting all my shit here…it’s fucking defemation. You have no proof, because I’ve never done anything. So, all you are doing is making shit up. Get off of my facebook, and also my friends facebooks…what the fuck?

  201. smartassmama says:

    196 – I wasn’t. I was saying I wanted to see just how bangin she looks if she’s going to call a lump of strangers all fat because she appears to be off in the deep end. The itsy-bitsy bit of her I could see on her twitter didn’t look fat at all, so I was just saying that we can’t compare ourselves to her, our pitiful fat selves. ๐Ÿ™‚

  202. Redhead says:

    OM, YOU posted your friends FB page on this board.
    Maybe we should tell her?

  203. smartassmama says:

    In all kindness, resulting to the “pay attention to your kids,” “get a life,” and threats of defamation/slander are really only going to get you compared to other frenemies to the blog. It really doesn’t help.

    And you posted your friends FB this morning.

  204. DSDM2 says:

    You linked the friends’ facebook pages, which in turn linked yours.

    You have been asking. I know for a fact, and have proof. I have been waiting to post about you.

    And for the love of god, please learn the proper use of an ellipsis…

  205. organicmomma says:

    Seriously. Leave my friends alone. They haven’t done anything. All I was doing was PROVING bc you didn’t believe me. Then someone else posted her page here. Please STOP! I’ll go away, but it’s like one of those things you can’t stop looking at even though you know you should. Just leave me and my friends alone. I think you’ve gotten enough drama just from me alone…mmmmkay?

  206. naturalmamadot says:

    202 I meant HER trying to hurt all our feelers by calling us fat lol, def not talking to you ๐Ÿ™‚

  207. organicmomma says:

    How awful redhead. I think she’s going through enough. Do you think doing that would help her and make her feel better? Really?

  208. naturalmamadot says:

    She sounds a bit panicked now, perhaps at the thought of us telling her friend shes posting her FB all around for ass pats and sob story credit? YOU POSTED IT TWICE FIRST DUMBASS. Someone else just cleared up the fucking link for us they sure as hell didnt pull it out of their ass so dont even TRY to put blame on them.

  209. DSDM2 says:

    If the person was looking for confirmation that you are lying, (or that you aren’t) then what is the issue?

    Not to mention, having it happen two times, exactly a month apart? Wow.

  210. naturalmamadot says:

    Ya see Stacie, the thing is normally when you do things like post your friends Facebook to make sure we all see you are being a bitch because your friends baby died, you dont turn around and call those people fat bitches.
    A smart person would of walked away instead of pissing everyone off, how are you going to explain that to her? Id love to hear a rough estimation of how that conversation would go.

    “Well you see, I figured since your kid died and stuff I could go around being a scammy cunt and have a nice excuse for it! Doesnt it feel nice for your friend to use YOUR loss as a mother to scam other mothers and children? ”


  211. naturalmamadot says:

    Twatwaffle Tuesday, now comes in every day form. For when you just cant get enough.
    *thumbs up*

  212. organicmomma says:

    It did happen twice a month apart. Why would I make that up, that’s sick. I got a message from the other mama the other day asking about my other friends baby because they were so close together. The reason the funeral and memorial went so quickly was bc the other mama had a HOMEBIRTH..they didn’t go to the hospital, so they had the baby to themselves the whole time. All i’m saying is…you have done your part to run me off the internet, ok…you posted my name, my usernames, my etsy store. Now you want to go start drama in my life too and hurt my friends….please..stop…

  213. magpiedpiper says:

    What were you proving exactly? Seriously. You pulled that link out in response to people saying you were annoying with all of your complaining posts when it was obvious to everyone but you that you needed to improve your b/s/t tactics so that you didn’t have so many issues. How was dragging up your friend’s issue, though real and awful, any proof that you weren’t actually annoying/a poor seller?

  214. naturalmamadot says:

    Etsy store? I missed that! Link?

  215. naturalmamadot says:

    ditto 214

  216. magpiedpiper says:

    And why are you still complaining that WE put your info out there? YOU LINKED TO YOUR FRIEND’S FB. YOU posted about them on CDN. YOU have your personal info and name easily accessible through the UN you used here and on CDN. That is all on you and no one else.

  217. melmelly says:

    If I am not mistaken OM, you posted a link to your Etsy store before DSDM2 did a few posts up.

    naturalmamadot, post 192 has the link.

  218. organicmomma says:

    Stop!!! OK, I know you have no sympathy. But i’m in fucking tears. I’m sure that will make most of you smile. That shop is the only income we have right now. I haven’t scammed anyone. JUST STOP!!!

  219. naturalmamadot says:

    SO why would you take it down? Or for that matter, if you are so dependent on your online persona WHY would you fucking FLIP THE FUCK OUT on all of us for stating that you seem to have a LOT of bst issues?
    Some were annoyed but come on if it was really your only income you wouldnt choose to shut it down because of us and not feed your kids or something…hopefully.
    What did you sell?

  220. smartassmama says:

    The etsy store name looks really familiar to me. I’m positive it was posted at the very least a few months ago.

    207 – oh ok. I read wrong. I think it was because my feelers were hurt. On a very honest note, what the hell does one’s weight/bmi/size have to do with what they think about someone going all batshit on the internet? I’ll admit, I could lose quite a bit and still not blow away in a strong breeze, but it has no bearing on how I treat people who are socially bi-polar.

  221. magpiedpiper says:

    Stop what exactly? Pointing out that you are the one at fault here, despite your protestations to the contrary? Why can’t you just answer the questions or leave if you are so upset? No one is forcing you to continue to post or read.

  222. imasupernova says:

    215 Etsy store in 192…

  223. theinvisible says:

    Gosh, I almost feel bad for you. Almost but not really because I’m a hard-hearted bitch. You stop. This isn’t real life. There aren’t people at your house banging on your door and looking in your windows. All you have to do is turn off your computer and go do something else. If you wait a week to look again this will be old news. Just move on because it will never be the same here for you.

  224. organicmomma says:

    If you look at the link i posted, it’s a dead link. The reason you couldn’t see it.someone else posted her page..

  225. shabbychic says:

    Im a little late to the game here, but perhaps I could get a little cliff notes of what exactly is going on here. I like to be in the loop ๐Ÿ˜‰ Maybe if someone bullet points it, then OM could address each point one by one, because really she sounds like she is coming unglued.

    A word of advice OM, you kinda sorta messed with the wrong crowd. I am not sure anyone has too much sympathy for your only means of income after your tirade.

  226. Redhead says:

    OM, I KNOW you have asked for freebies/cheap wool on this board before.

    So here you go, for proof from your post about #201:
    When I posted on my FB that I was cleaning out the girls clothes, you asked me to send stuff in their sizes. My intention for posting wasn’t to see if anyone wanted anything, I was just posting what I was doing ATM. However, I WAS WILLING TO SEND YOU THE CLOTHING. You also asked me when I was clearing through my own closet for tank tops- WHICH I WAS WILLING TO DO.

    I was even going to add wool sweaters and yarn scraps in the box. And yes- you did say “So, what do I need to send you in return?”.. but really, I don’t like asking for things. Especially when mostly what I heard from you was how poor you were and how bad your life sucked. So I ignored it and was still going to send you a big box of goodies for free.

    You then hinted about the Storia dress listed on Etsy (ladies, at the time it was listed for $188.00). I told you I was willing to sell it at a discount (and it would have been a generous one), but you said you couldn’t afford even a discount with all the “crap going on in your life”. You said you would “scrounge up quarters” to purchase it (I still have the msgs). But “whine whine, I never had a wedding.. and it will be sold before I ever have enough money”. Whether you intentionally were begging or not, that is what your messages sounded like.

    I even offered to do a partial trade for yarn from you for the dress, and you said you didn’t have any yarn. BUT you have yarn listed on your ISO trades and have since crocheted that skirtie in your Etsy store.

    You then posted on here asking for cheap wool covers because your “DD plays in her poop”. I mentioned that I had 2 things leftover in my listing. They totaled to be about $35 ppd. You wrote me on DS and said you only had $10 “and some change” in your PP but would buy them as soon as you sold something. Well, after that message- like 2 days later or so, you got in trouble by your DH for buying a bunch of wool yarn off the ‘net.
    I’m sure you paid more than $10 “and some change” for your yarn.

    And I don’t even care if you don’t buy my wool, but don’t hint that you’re broke so I’ll majorly bump my price down.

    Anyway, what do we need to have sympathy for? Your friend? The fact that your friend might found out you were possibly using her tragedy to get free things (Hmm.. CWise87, anyone?)? I’m confused.

    To say your etsy store is your only income is rather pathetic, your DH has a business, and it isn’t like you’re selling buttloads of items out of the Etsy shop each day to support your family.
    You buy and sell on DS QUITE a bit- you aren’t destitute.
    And I doubt any of us are sitting around laughing at your posts. Rather annoyed, is more like it.

  227. smartassmama says:

    Don’t shut it down, especially if it’s your only source of income. The best redeeming move (imo, as a buyer of goods) would be to own how you acted, own what you have or haven’t done or said, and just take it as a learning experience not to flip on people who’ve been your net comrades for however long. Maybe busy your thoughts with something else, pick up posting in something totally unrelated to diapers, general/OT perhaps. As Ron White says, “Let it go.” If you feel like it, you can come back later when you don’t want to bash the people here. But, as DSDM2 said, I’m not sure that every single person would welcome you with hugs. Good luck.

  228. organicmomma says:

    I shut the shop so you people won’t look at it…when this has died down, I’ll re-open. Not because I’m a scammer, but you’re not purchasing anything from me, you are just stalking all my shit. Stop getting into my life. I have NOT scammed anyone…

  229. organicmomma says:

    222-what questions exactly?

  230. imasupernova says:

    225 anyone with any type of computer skills could have linked to the profile with the link you originally posted.

  231. kitty1163 says:

    DSDM: This isn’t my playground but is there anyway to delete the woman’s FB that had the loss? It doesn’t seem fair to keep her info out there when the issue is OM. Just a thought. Unless you already did so …

  232. magpiedpiper says:

    If you don’t want people in your life, don’t put it ALL out there and declare open season on it by flipping your lid like a nutjob.

  233. smartassmama says:

    225 – you had the intention of us seeing it though. You had no clue that we couldn’t see what you were intending for us to read. You wanted us to read about a 3rd party’s tragedy, in hopes that you’d have some leeway on going apeshit and e-yelling at us about how dumb we are.

  234. imasupernova says:

    I agree with 232 DSDM can you delete the link I posted through OM’s link? I only posted it cause I thought it might have been OM….KWIM?

  235. organicmomma says:

    228-I leave for arizona tuesday and was planning on putting it on vacation mode anyways. I won’t be here to ship anything.

  236. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    OM- A few words of genuinely well-meaning advice:
    First, don’t close your store because of a little bit of drama here. If you honestly have a quality product and work hard at your business, stay open, and quit looking at sites like this. Use that time to work THAT MUCH HARDER to *prove* that you have a quality business, and you’re not a scammer. 99% of people are not going to remember this little blip in here. Yes, there may be one or two nasty people who will cling to the tiny piece of something bad they read here, and haunt you with it every chance they get. The funny thing is, no one will listen if they are the only people spouting crap. If you have happy customers to sing your praise, one or two nay-sayers who have a baseless vendetta against you will make no difference in your business.
    Second, learn your lesson on the FSOT circuit, stop complaining, and work to have nothing but stellar transactions there as well. Just let this all drop, walk away, move on.
    Third, personal situations can make a person emotionally sensitive and unnecessarily volatile when they begin to wear deeply. Yet another reason to stay away from emotionally-charged situations, and places like this where you feel compelled to respond. Anyone here who knows me well(and there are a few) knows the personal hell I’ve been dealing with for the last several months that has only been added to and intensified exponentially in the last week and a half can attest to the fact that I know what I’m talking about here. Enter a stalker and her harassing friends here, on CDN, FB, my blog, etc, who have chosen to attack me at this time for the last several months, and I have been a snippy wreck. The three biggest words of advice I can give you: JUST. WALK. AWAY.

  237. Redhead says:

    And I have to add, OM- You didn’t post your friend’s page because you wanted us to believe you. BECAUSE nobody had even brought up the question about the FFS diapers yet.
    You posted that FIRST to make excuses for your actions with your BSTing issues and to gain sympathy for YOURSELF. (see posts 81/83)
    Nothing prior to that made any sense for you to post your friend’s tragedy, except for your own personal gain. THAT is sick.

  238. naturalmamadot says:

    So we wouldnt look at it? What exactly is the absolute worst that could come of hundreds ofpeople looking at your etsy? Someone might *gasp* buy something.

  239. smartassmama says:

    Looks like she might be taking the advice. Maybe a change of subject is in order?

    What are you ladies doing for the 4th?

  240. naturalmamadot says:

    Going to the beach with peachy lol

  241. melmelly says:

    My grandparents are having a BBQ, as usual. We live on the Oregon Coast, so we are hoping for no evening fog in order to see the fireworks. I am also hoping the tourists aren’t stupid and have a bunch of fires on the beach, making a bunch of smoke. When that has happened in the past, they get the sky so smoky, it gets hard to watch the fireworks. Last year is was a very wet fog, like almost a sprinkle. All we could see was the fog light up to a pink, yellow, or green.

    Hopefully this year is better.

  242. Redhead says:

    FINALLY an Etsy scammer gets caught!

  243. smartassmama says:

    My grandparents and whole extended family on that side has a cookout, too. Except our is at lunch and in the middle of BFE Kentucky. It’s nice to see everyone also. And after the eating’s done a lot of us swim, the grand-kids and their kids. I’m not sure about the town fireworks, since they are at around 9, and I don’t know if my moody 14mo will go for that.

  244. Aj says:

    We’ll be heading to the lake, barbecueing (sp?) and watching fireworks.

  245. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    242- Good news! One scammer down, who-knows-how-many-more to go.

    We cannot go far from the PICU these days, so some of our family is coming up to have a picnic at a nearby park for the weekend festivities.

  246. Me Me Me and Me says:

    Doesn’t look like your store was supporting much. Seeing as 2 or 3 of your 4 FB are for buying.

    woollyboolly’s Info
    rating: 4, 100% pos.
    joined: October 21, 2009
    location: viroqua

  247. DSDM2 says:

    OK, so OrganicMomma/AmberStar, what do you have to say about the begging for cheap items? I have others telling the same story and one more that came forward today with a really interesting BST issue with you recently.

    Am I still a liar trying to defame you?

  248. organicmomma says:

    I sell locally also.My store sold out a couple months ago from people here…I have to delete links when people here buy things.

  249. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    248- Truly not defending her here, but not everyone leaves feedback. In fact, most do not. My store has been open for nearly three years, and I only have 50 feedback left. I’ve had fifty transactions in 2010 alone. It’s frustrating at times because of how much we DEPEND on fb as small-time WAHMs, but when a simple shipping notice with a request to leave appropriate feedback when the transaction is complete doesn’t remind them, leaving feedback just doesn’t matter to a buyer. ๐Ÿ˜•

  250. zosiasmama says:

    Someone save me from having to do a search. What is OM’s Un on CDN?

  251. melmelly says:

    I am going to agree with Deviate on the feedback. I sold to someone on Etsy a few months ago, left feedback for her, but she hasn’t left any for me. I checked out her feedback and she has all positives from over 75 sellers, yet she has never once left feedback for a seller.

  252. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    252- It’s the same.

  253. Just Peachy says:

    Yes me and naturalmamadot are taking our fat asses and our poor neglected children and heading to the beach. Sorry couldn’t resist LOL

  254. zamgrawrz says:

    191-yay! Glad it got there and your DD likes it-my 4 year old was annoyed at me for getting rid of the purple one, lol. We NEVER wear purple though, so it never would’ve gotten used anyway.

    As for begging for FFS stuff-thats just low imo. I mean, its one thing if someone offers and you really need it, but jeeze…don’t act poor if you aren’t. You obviously aren’t if you can buy stuff all the time off of DS. Hell, I only get money every 3 months, student loans totaling about $3500 (and I have FIVE kids), and I don’t sit here trying to get hand outs or anything. Yeah, I might say something about not being able to buy xx right now cause I’m broke but its not to get any sort of sympathy. I know why I’m broke, I deal with it. I also don’t buy a ton of stuff on a regular basis. My splurge last quarter was 4 skeins of solid dyed Cestari and 3 skeins of Mosaic Moon at coop. And even with that I felt guilty, lol.

  255. Redhead says:

    She has only had 4 sales _on_ Etsy. That _doesn’t_ include her FB rating.
    woollyboolly’s Info
    4, 100% pos.
    October 21, 2009
    contact woollyboolly

    Other Items

    0 items for sale

    4 sales <——–

  256. Redhead says:

    Etsy tracks how many items you sell.
    Look on the right side, under where it says “Other items”.

  257. zosiasmama says:

    Guess I should try the obvious and check the same un next time..doh!

  258. DSDM2 says:

    Yeah, I still have her page up and it only shows 4 total sales.

  259. organicmomma says:

    I sell locally also…my shop sold out a couple months ago due to customers here…when I delete something from my shop, the link is lost.

  260. DSDM2 says:

    Organicmomma, I don’t believe you. Not at all. Again, I think you are a scammer that is just now being outted.

  261. DSDM2 says:

    Only 8 people even have you marked as a favorite and if I am not mistaken, 4 or 5 of them are from this blog (and are pretty pissed off at you).

  262. Redhead says:

    261- we’re not counting local sales. Only counting what has been sold from your store through Etsy. Those numbers aren’t deleted.

  263. organicmomma says:

    Yes, I know. But when something gets sold here, I have to take it off my etsy. It is then deleted from etsy.

  264. DSDM2 says:

    therefore your store, on esty, isn’t supporting you. It was private sales?

    OM, you can’t keep things straight can you?

  265. Redhead says:

    Well that is like me combining FSOT sales with my Etsy sales.
    Not the same thing.

  266. coffeehoar says:

    243~ My favorite fourth ever was one I spent with my mom at Canon Beach in southern Oregon. It was so awesome!

  267. organicmomma says:

    Everyone here has that address. There are business cards up at the co-op, waldorf school and hospital. this is just stupid. That store does support me, maybe not so much online right now, and probably won’t after all of this, but it does locally. It’s the same business name here.

  268. organicmomma says:

    I’m also working on stocking. I was hoping to stock when I got home from Arizona. i am not a scammer. The end.

  269. Redhead says:

    Etsy is an ONLINE store. You have had 4 ONLINE sales through Etsy.
    Local sales are not online sales. You had ONE WOMAN who bought some of your store inventory locally (You said this online: “one woman”). One woman couldn’t have bought enough to provide for a family of 5, unless you had a warehouse full of wool covers.

    You don’t promote your shop, so I really can’t fathom that you’re so well-known in your area because of your online Etsy store.

    & Saying “the end” at the end of your statement really doesn’t add a sense of genuine-spirit or truthfulness, either.

  270. melmelly says:

    268-Harris Beach in So Oregon? Cannon Beach is in No Oregon. There is one beach about 15 minutes north of here that looks like Cannon Beach, but it’s the wrong end of the state. LOL

    I am 5th generation in my town, yet I have never been further north than Lincoln City on the Coast. I am probably the only person from the Pacific Northwest that has never been to Seattle.

  271. organicmomma says:

    They can look there to see what I have available, otherwise they can come over. You do know(seeing as you are a fan of it on fb) that we own a solar business. But RIGHT NOW like I said, we don’t have any jobs. So, my store is the only source of income. You also know that i’m disabled. I am waiting on my disability claim which should help. Hope that clears it up for you.

  272. DSDM2 says:

    excuses excuses, blame other people. We got it OM, we know what you are getting to.

    If you are working with an online shop, not claiming it, and getting disability, you will have your disability terminated, and be fined, and have have to pay it back.

  273. DSDM2 says:

    Not to mention that with Arthritis and Ehlers-Danlos syndrome (sp?) if you can knit or crochet then you can work a 9-5. Just saying.

    I think maybe a call to her county records might be in order to see if she has a state tax ID#, if she is claiming the income from the business, if she is reporting it to disability, and if she is legit.

    Otherwise, she is scamming.

  274. Redhead says:

    Yes, I am a fan of your DH’s business on FB, one of 3 fans. You, your DH and me.
    Why did I become a fan? Because you asked me to after you added me to your FB & at the time, I felt sorry for you.

  275. organicmomma says:

    Wow, that is insane and humorous. If you didn’t notice, i opened the shop this year, and taxes haven’t come around yet. Also, I don’t get disability yet. I said I’m WAITING. I also was diagnosed with fibromyalgia on wednsday. How is crocheting equal to lifting 50 pounds and working on my feet all day? I have a culinary degree and that is the amount you have to be able to lift.

  276. organicmomma says:

    Felt sorry for me? You were the one getting me involved with trying to adopt that woman’s babies. having me ask her for you if she found them homes. I doubt you would ask someone that you just felt sorry for to do that for you.

  277. Redhead says:

    Nobody brought up being on your feet all day and lifting 50 lbs to have a job. DSDM2 brought up crocheting, which anyone who was truly disabled couldn’t do with arthritis.

  278. DSDM2 says:

    Nor would they be able to sit and do it with fibromyalgia.

  279. Redhead says:

    I did NOT try to get you “involved”. I asked if you knew anything about the situation and if you’d ask her one simple question because she refused to respond to me. And you were the only person I knew who had a connection with her at the time. Anyway, keep grasping for ways to make yourself look good.. it is classy.

  280. DSDM2 says:

    Disability should disqualify you if you can work a normal minimum wage job. Not just a job “in your field”.

    I think someone should call and check with state taxes. She should have filed 2 quarters worth by now if she opened first quarter this year.

    And ANY wahm knows that you can’t support yourself for the first 1-3 years from a WAHM company, esp. knitting and sewing, not unless you go national and have reps in areas, etc. Ten you can truly support a family. You might add a little income otherwise, but not likely with homemade items.

  281. organicmomma says:

    i have arthritis in my neck and back. Are you really saying that people with arthritis and fibromyalgia can’t crochet? Really? You think I am the only one in the world that has these disabilities and crochet also? I’m amazing then. Oh and I do have a prescription for pain medication which helps me be able to do what I need to get done…

  282. organicmomma says:

    I don’t have a connection with her. I don’t know her. I can’t even remember her name, just that she was having twins and giving them up and that you asked me to come on her and ask her if she had found them homes.

  283. Redhead says:

    So why even bring it up, if you claim all the above is true? Only to start more drama, obviously.

  284. organicmomma says:

    It seems very strange to me that you would for some reason want to mess with my life like that. I’m not a scammer. I just opened my business. You yourself said oh, you only have had 4 transactions and mostly from buying. It’s kinda creepy and wierd. Why would you want to do that to someone and their family? Just the thought alone is crazy.

  285. DSDM2 says:

    Who cares if someone wanted information as to whom the twins were being given up to? That has nothing to do with the situation other then to deflect and blame someone else once again.

    You have screwed up yourself, there is no excuse for the problems you have had BSTing. All you are doing is making excuses over and over, starting when someone called you on the transaction earlier in this thread.

    Again, you are scamming, aside from the obvious and glaring BST issues, if you are not a legal tax paying company, and are not claiming your income (and if it is enough to support a family, then you won’t qualify legally for disability.)

  286. organicmomma says:

    Maybe you missed the post where I said we also install solar panels, but that we don’t have any jobs right this second? Rather my husband does. The point of that was that if she was really just friends with me because she felt sorry for me, then why wouldn’t she have one of her real friends do something like that for her?

  287. organicmomma says:

    Oh, and my scamming must be reflected in all my awful fb on DS? I’m not a scammer, get over it.

  288. zamgrawrz says:

    Disability won’t approve you unless you aren’t able to work. Period. They could care less if you can work in your field of expertise…if you can work at McD’s, you won’t qualify. My mom spent 2 years trying to get on disability and she has nerve damage, is wheelchair bound, and also has multiple other issues.

    I can’t imagine being able to crochet with fibromyalgia but I suppose. Everyone I’ve known/read about with it couldn’t stand the feeling of the yarn due to the allodynia associated with fibromyalgia. Not to mention nerve pain, muscle spasms, weakness, etc. On the other hand, it can also lead to cognitive impairment…

  289. DSDM2 says:

    How is that related to the price of tea in China? Really? Your FB page, shadiness, and illnesses have nothing to do with her. It makes you look like a liar and a cheat. Hmmm.

  290. Mmspirit7 says:

    twins being given up?

  291. DSDM2 says:

    I think it has to do with MeaganAllyson, but really has nothing to do with this.

  292. coffeehoar says:

    272~ Brookings, Oregon. I must have misremembered the beach name. My mom lived in Klamath Falls at the time, and I would drive from Spokane several times a year. We camped in the mountains and drove down to the beach during the day.

  293. angelique says:

    Wow, OM was all cozy when she considered herself a cool kid and my oh my, how quickly the tables have turned. why don’t you complete your exit instead of digging the hole deeper and deeper?

  294. organicmomma says:

    Here is proof of what i did with the FFS dipes.

    Then you can PM HBACimg on DS and ask her if i just sent her a medium FRB full of FFS items…

  295. Mmspirit7 says:

    293…is she the mama on CDN that lost on of her twins? I thought she tried for them or is that a different mama. I am out of the loop didn’t know someone was giving up twins. and if they are i am of mind that’s there choice. and better than the other one the mama had

  296. DSDM2 says:

    I know of at least 5 people now who you tried to get FFS items or did get FFS items from. A med FRB doesn’t hold that many. Not to mention you recent expensive yarn buys.

  297. DSDM2 says:

    So you sent a random package to someone before the baby died? That was June 7th right? What does that prove?

  298. Redhead says:

    OM, you keep changing the subject. DSDM2 has asked you at least twice about you begging for the FFS items which I provided public proof on, no comment from you. You only move on to the next dramatic thing you can think of to deflect blame and throw the topic off course.

    This is the exact thing you did early this morning, dump someone’s other sad story into the mess here on DS for God know what reason, aside that you’re either mental or extremely callous.

    What a sensible person might do is this “I screwed up on some FSOT transactions. I don’t have a good excuse, but I am working on bettering my skills and making sure all items are as described before sending, I do apologize.”
    But no. You toss the death of your “friend’s” baby on here, trying to gain sympathy for yourself. Then call us sick because we looked at the link.

  299. Sala says:

    A fair number of moms started off with twins and lost one. HRM’s mom is the last one I know of who lost one of her babes but no intention of giving one or either up at any time.

    Sativa had mentioned adoption at one point, too.

    Maeghan or however it is properly spelled is giving her identical twins up.

  300. Mmspirit7 says:

    Ahh ok well i found her on ds and just looking at her posts I didn’t see that yet (only just started looking)

    but I see she is 19 with two others and I don’t know her story but if it’s the best for her family and babies then it’s the best I guess I don’t understand OM bring them up i thought may be it was some horrible thing.

    And HRM that’s who i was thinking on CDN i felt for her reading that.

    and if the other chick it the one I think it is it might be best but I don’t know. in the end the baby is born and loved by someone and that’s the best in my book.

    as for the other stuff…well it helped me get through alvin and the chimpmunks that my boys wanted to watch

  301. Redhead says:

    297, It was MaeghanAlyson. She was in contact with me at one time about possibly considering us for adoptive parents, and then suddenly ended all contact after asking us if we would be willing to meet her in her state when the twins were born. It really doesn’t matter now. That was months ago. I had asked OM, at one time, to see if she knew anything about the situation because she was on CDN at the time and so is MA (before I joined). I also asked if she minded asking MA if she had found adoptive parents yet- as I was confused as to what I should be doing as far as paperwork on my end.
    I since have seen a DS post where she announced she found other parents- it is fine. I just wanted to be sure on my end that we weren’t being considered anymore because I didn’t want to slack on paperwork if there was a possibility still.
    OM brought it up for no reason except to change the subject from herself.

  302. smurfmeat says:

    All the deflecting is really just adding more fuel to the fire.

  303. Mmspirit7 says:

    OM a presonal message, I have had harsh things said about me on this blog….everything I deserved I had majorly messed up but you know something when I let the hurt go and read what they said it helped me get my life back together and I am still working on it and coming back here after a long break. My point is….you might feel differently about what was said here when you can come back and read with a clean mind and heart and see that while…my story much different than yours (no fsot issues) that there is wisdom there.

    at least something to learn and grow from.

    oh and yes I am fat, and my children are playing with daddy whiel i play here as he was gone a month

  304. Mmspirit7 says:

    crap……i meant while…sorry

  305. smartassmama says:

    I read it as a personal blow to try and get an emotional response from you. Deflection and a personal emotional dig.

  306. Mmspirit7 says:

    303. ahh ok. well sorry you didn’t get the babies.

  307. organicmomma says:

    The package i gave to her was huge. The ffs items were for her. i gave you proof. She was having a boy. I got some girly items that i sent to HBACimg. The medium FRB was stuffed full also. . Look through my photobucket, are there ANY pics of ffs items i’ve been given? I asked to take ffs items when they were OFFERED FFS, for my friend, they were not for me. They were all given away. I did admit i messed up, I had 2 bad transactions, i paid both mama’s back and fixed them both. Any other transactions I had that were bad were on the sellers end, not mine.

  308. DSDM2 says:

    You still are not accepting any responsibilities for your actions. Please, if you can’t see what people are telling you, leave. I do hope you get a call about your disability being turned down for defrauding the government though.

  309. organicmomma says:

    I would take what they have to say with an open mind, but they are trying to say that I’m a scammer, which I am not. I have provided proof of where the ffs dipes went and what i wanted them for.

  310. Redhead says:

    Smartassmama: I’m sure she meant it to hurt me too, but she should watch it.. I have many, many FB messages from her on her personal issues and home life I will gladly bring up if she wants to get tough with me.
    If she thinks her reputation is bad now, I can make it much worse. My boxing gloves are still packed away. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  311. organicmomma says:

    That is horrible redhead. What have I done to you? Really? No one else sees how that is awful? You all are acting like I got tons of ffs diapers or something. I got 3 packages. One from bittymomma, one package of two blossom bg, and one package from another mama who posted on here she had ffs dipes to give away and that’s it.

  312. DSDM2 says:

    OM, I have more IMs from others who said you tried to get them to drop prices of all kinds of things to FFS cost or just free. I am done with you though. Buh-bye now. Buh-bye.

  313. organicmomma says:

    You have IM’s? What does that prove? If i ask for an item to be lowered, it’s a couple dollars or if i’m buying a lot, that’s it..

  314. Redhead says:

    So I’m horrible for saying I _can_ post info on you if you choose to keep throwing out my stuff (which has nothing to do with any of this, BTW), but you’re _not_ horrible for actually posting a sensitive situation on me? Who is the one acting like a total dimwit on this board? One minute you’re raging mad at everyone, calling them fatties who neglect their kids- the next you’re trying to get everyone to join sides with you because you’ve been backed into a corner.

    Man, this has gone from annoying.. to downright hilarious/ borderline call the men in the white coats. We need a sedative.

  315. Aj says:

    Here’s a surprising link :):
    Miles of smiles may have a flea infestation!

  316. Pork Slapper says:

    I initially felt bad for OM and well, I still do. *blush* The way I see it, she was just kvetching about transactions on DS, feeling comfortable to do so here, etc. Peachy said something and everyone agreed (because, hey, it’s true!). Then, it turned ugly, with OM lashing out at all the sick, fat fucking bitches.

    Now, she is being called a scammer due to some FFS issues that have yet to come to light. I don’t know that she’s a scammer. She is probably milking the “no money” excuse for some free shit. I abhor this particular breed of milkers, but whatever.

    I’m curious about the FFS situation, but my main issue is the last link OM posted. Why would you, OM, post an e-mail exchange between you and someone else and include your first and last name if you wanted to remain private? Not all of us fiddle on facebook and while your DS and CDN names may be known, I didn’t know your last name. Stupid move, there. Not to mention, you didn’t even give the other person the courtesy of blacking out their e-mail address. I know you feel shat on, but com’n!

    Oh, and I think you should go read #237 again. Wise, wise woman.

  317. iken says:

    To change the subject, this thread has to potential to get ugly. Someone calls her out on the Islam comment on page 2.

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    I just got my first bottle of dr. bronner’s soap. What is with all the writing on the bottle?? Is the company a supporter of islam? Some of it sounds communist, too! I am really confused as to if I want to support this company.

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  318. organicmomma says:

    I did black it out, it’s not showing up for some reason…Alrighty then, I’ll go. I was just trying to prove what I did with the ffs items and that i am not a scammer. That is all.

  319. Redhead says:

    She’s not poor though, She is constantly buying off DS and other sites but using the “poor pitiful me” card to mooch on everyone. She may not directly ask for a free item, but she sure works up the sob story to guilt the seller into lowering the price.
    IMO- that is scammerific in itself.

    And om, you weren’t just gently trying to prove your innocence. You’ve said a lot of nasty things that only made you look more scammy.
    Don’t say you’re leaving unless you really are.. I think you’ve YAGED at least 3 times today.

  320. Redhead says:

    319, I used to live down the road from a Mosque. The people there were quite friendly- YET, they had to put a big fence around their building and lock the gate because the neighborhood dwellers would destroy their property at any given chance. The woman we bought the house from actually tried to warn us about the “Muslims” who were down the road from the house, saying they “didn’t have any business being there and needed to get out”. It was sad.

  321. magpiedpiper says:

    Word. Seriously, for someone crying about others giving out personal info (even when SHE was the one to do it actually), OM has yet again given it out all by herself. I feel bad for the other mama whose info she put out there too. Just like with her FB friend. Nice.

    As for Miles, this is not her first flea infestation since two years ago. She’s posted about it before, since I had my dd a year and a half ago. We had our dogs bring fleas in once despite being on flea control stuff. It was before dd was born and we spent a ton of time and effort to get rid of it all. It was crappy but we never had them again. Fleas can happen, but why are they happening so much there? Maybe they should be treating outside too.

  322. melmelly says:

    coffeehoar, I am in Brookings! So did you camp up the Chetco River or Winchuck River? My parents and grandparents both have cabins up the Chetco. We can hear the sea lions barking at night from our house, and we can hear the fog horn, too.

    There are times when I love living here, but then there are times when I hate it and want to crawl under a rock. Like yesterday, I was at Fred Meyer, trying to find a parking space. I gave up and went back later. People were driving like morons all through town and I almost got into an accident by McDonald’s because some idiot changed their mind on which direction they wanted to go.

  323. melmelly says:

    Eh on the flea infestation. I know it is Miles and everything, but I have heard from three different vet techs from three different vet offices that fleas are worse this year, than in the last few years. Our dog had been treated for fleas, yet walked in with one on him TWO DAYS after having the treatment at the vet’s. I am glad I haven’t found more…knock on wood…so I hope it stays like that. DS#1 has had allergies pop up in the last year, and I would hate to find out if he’s allergic to flea bites as well. I wasn’t affected as a kid, but my sisters were.

  324. Munklettes says:

    317 – read the thread… there’s a flea pill? I’ve never heard of a pill. Off to consult my friend, Dr Google, lol

  325. Redhead says:

    Yeah, Capstar is a flea pill that will kill fleas ON the animal within 6 hours I think, but it doesn’t prevent them.

    Fleas are bad this year. With all the rain and wetter weather, they thrive in conditions like that. We had a horrible infestation when we moved here last year (I think from the previous owners dogs) but since have only seen 1 or 2 here and there outdoors.
    We keep our yard sprayed though, and I spray diluted essential oils/ACV on our pets.. so I think that takes care of them.

  326. Munklettes says:

    Redhead, if you give them brewers yeast (a couple of tablespoons a day for medium sized dogs) it also helps prevent fleas, plus they love the taste ๐Ÿ™‚

  327. smartassmama says:

    Our dog and our house had them a few months ago. It was not warm out when it happened. We found them late at night and tried Dawn baths twice, then we bought some soap & spray at Walhell, and some drops for her neck. Worked after that. But she’s an inside dog, only going out to take her fat lazy ass for a piddle or poop. A week after they were gone I realized where they came from. My parents had just kept her while we were gone for a day, and sitting on my parents couch petting their dog, they were hopping everywhere. voila.

  328. Redhead says:

    Thanks Munklettes! I will definitely do that. I try not to use any chemical flea control anymore, because we have had too many issues with our pets getting sick from it.

  329. melmelly says:

    We lived in “the duplex from hell” for almost six months, back in 2005. We were only living there until we could buy a house, so we weren’t picky. Our side of the duplex had been vacant for a little over a year, supposedly, but I beg to differ. Once we got all moved in, we started to notice fleas. We contacted the property management, were told that the previous renter had a dog, etc. When I brought up the dog issue to the owner, who lived all the way over in Pennsylvania, she said she didn’t allow pets and that she didn’t know the previous tenant had a dog in there.

    It was a major PITA, to say the least.

    When we moved out, we were responsible for having the carpets steam cleaned, etc. $125 later, and the owner was tearing out the carpets because of a whole host of reasons – that I had brought up about the previous tenant! I asked to be reimbursed for the carpet cleaning, but was denied. I was so pissed about it! I still get pissed about that whole rental situation. There were things about it that were on the shady side of things.

  330. melmelly says:

    Munklettes, do you sprinkle it over their food – wet or dry? I am sure I wouldn’t have a problem getting our beast of a lab to have a go at it, since he eats most anything. However, apples and pig ears are his favorite!

  331. CJ says:

    I didn’t realize that fleas are such a common issue. My boys really want a dog but now I am nervous about yet another thing!

  332. Munklettes says:

    Just sprinkle it over dry or wet. Use one tablespoon for small dogs and cats, 2 for medium to large dogs.

  333. Sala says:

    There’s a fun thread in the Vent section of CDN right now.

  334. Just Peachy says:

    I’d pour coke on someones car too if it was handy. Im sick of idiots who can’t take 5 fucking seconds to adjust their parking job.

  335. CJ says:

    Yeah, if I had a pop handy I may just accidentally spill it on the car.

  336. mamaton says:

    THANK YOU!! ๐Ÿ˜€

  337. sourpatchbabe says:

    I’m not on CDN, but I just might have to join just because of the cool purple colors.

  338. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    Miles’ flea issue doesn’t surprise me for various reasons. :-X Unfortunately, even tidy people get them. We are very clean people(if for no other reason than my severe dust and other allergies demand it), but when we lived in a different townhouse two years ago, we had fleas BAD. Yes, we had two cats, but we treated them with the drops, and never had a problem until this townhouse. Our front door was less than 3 feet from our neighbor, who was a kind old woman, but the stereo-typical ‘neighborhood cat lady.’ Our best guess was that she tracked fleas and such OUT her door, which was close enough that we then tracked it all IN our door. It was awful. My cats got regular baths, intense flea treatment, my carpets were steam-cleaned once a month, and I vacuumed twice a day(then cleaned and sterilized the guts of my bagless vac weekly) for months. It was awful.

  339. mamaton says:

    Good Morning Ladies- it’s nighty night for me… Hope everyone’s Saturday is great!

  340. zamgrawrz says:

    Poop. I can’t see the vent section. I should probably start posting more >.<

  341. Sala says:

    Well, I’m going against the other posters above. The last bit of the thread is all about one member deciding that it’s ok to poor coke on people’s cars or otherwise damage their vehicles if she decides that they have parked too close to her. She’s mouthed off at two mods and even the owner is telling her to stop. I think she’s wrong and that it’s beyond rude.

    And she has less than 200 posts so you don’t have to be a member for too long or have oodles of posts, but it is an opt-in group.

  342. smartassmama says:

    it’s going to look totally obvious, but I’m going to try to opt-in. I had opted a few of them a few months ago, but I got put into lurker.

  343. imasupernova says:

    319 Looks like the thread was offensive enough it was flagged and removed…


  344. Redhead says:

    I don’t think I can opt in yet, I only have around 20 posts or so.

  345. zamgrawrz says:

    I only have like 11 posts. lmao

  346. Sala says:

    I’d cut and paste but I’m pretty sure that’s verboten from opt-in groups.

  347. zamgrawrz says:

    I need some drama to keep my mind off of crap, where the hell are all the trolls hiding? ๐Ÿ˜›

  348. ladylili says:

    Maybe I’m wrong but I thought posting links to opt in areas for CDN was a big no-no.

  349. smartassmama says:

    The “I confess” thread in OT on DS might feed your need Zamgrawrz.

  350. zamgrawrz says:

    ooo yes, this is nice. I liek. Though now I may have to confess something ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

  351. zamgrawrz says:

    Jonahbaby’s post makes me a little sad ๐Ÿ˜ฆ I know how she feels because I’ve had attachment issues with my oldest but not to that extent. I couldn’t imagine not feeling anything at all towards my kids.

  352. smartassmama says:

    Made me feel terrible too. Made me want to go out and slap her stepmama too.

  353. zamgrawrz says:

    I know right?

  354. tootrue says:

    Yes #353 I’m there too with my oldest but I would not say I have no feeling for him…It makes me sad though. I don’t think I could admit that to a bunch of strangers though…wait, I just did…

  355. tootrue says:

    and yes that stepmama needs a slap…

  356. nu says:

    As I’ve admitted before, I don’t catch on quickly with who is who, but…
    #336 and #337 are saying that they would do what the mama in the Opt-in CDN thread was talking about. Then #339 mamaton has a thank you, so I’m infering that mamaton is the norahsmama (might have the name wrong).

    Am I reading this wrong?

    If mamaton is not saying thank you to #336 and #337 then I read it wrong, and for that I am sorry.

    (btw thanks redfish for putting your dods name on your siggy, I know who you are! LOL)

  357. Just Peachy says:

    Well if you are reading it wrong then so am I.

  358. hrm's mom says:

    no I am not planning on giving up my baby. Thanks for your kind words this has been by far the worse pregnancy every for me (and I have had a few pretty bad ones) and I am just now starting to relax about the other baby.

    I have only posted here a few times but I read all the time, hehe. I had a weird feeling about OM when someone said they had FFS stuff on this blog and she jumped on it and said she could so use it because of all the terrible things that had been going on in her life. I am not sure why but I just found that really strange as I am not sure how the FFS stuff was going to fix all the terrible things she had going on, when I swear she said she was selling her stuff to make money and was now out money because people were complaining about her transactions. So I was under the impression she was planning on selling the FFS stuff.

    As for fleas we had a horrible infestation in 2008 right after DD was born it was horrible. Our Dogs were on Centinal which is suppose to be a heart worm and flea pill. Come to find out Centinal only sterilizes the darn things so they cannot reproduce. The problem our vet told us is that we have too many bunnies in our yard so it may take several years to sterilize all the fleas so they cannot reproduce. I read you can use borax to get rid of them I guess it dehydrates them so I sprinkled the stuff all over the house let it sit for 48 hours and vacuumed did it again a week later and the fleas were gone so I swear by the stuff.

  359. Redhead says:

    Not to drag this out forever, but I ran across a couple of funnies.

    She deleted her post. ๐Ÿ˜€

    Before she edited it yesterday afternoon, said something like “If you’re still willing to sell these, then let me know”. I guess she lowballed her and never got a response.

    And then I saw this, which was rather hilarious:

    She outed her real name there (“Stacie”) when her nickname on CDN is the same as the one here. But yet blames me for sharing personal info that nobody else knew.

    Ok, I’m done for a bit. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  360. Mmspirit7 says:

    I have been thinking of OM and i really hope she gets put in yellow just to have people watch out. I told a friend of mine about what was here on the blog and glad I did.

    HRM mom I am sorry I didn’t think you were giving up your baby as you were trying so hard I don’t post but I follow you good luck with your baby.

    And last but not least. my friend on CDN offered up to make a stuff for the fundraiser. she got a pm from a member that she didn’t know made and sold stuff tell her she had to remove the listing because it was close to her’s. thing was it wasn’t this lady’s pattern as my friend ask the maker of the pattern if she could do it. she was pissed last night about.

    i get they might look close but i mean come on really and she still doesn’t know if she has a store for real or not

  361. DSDM2 says:

    Mmspirit7, I saw the listing on CDN. It is very much a copy of a WAHM with a store that has been making those for a year.

  362. DSDM2 says:

    If you would like, I can find the photos and store, just IM me.

  363. CJ says:

    Has anyone heard of Shabby Pants? Any personal experience, feedback or info on who this is?

  364. TeamB4me says:

    #362 What listing? Or is it gone now?

  365. DSDM2 says: is the listing. is the original maker (selling them for over a year) and she does have an HC although it is inactive at the moment, she is stocking with other Congos.

  366. Mmspirit7 says:

    well she didn’t the pattern from that wahm got it from someone else. I guess I don’t see the issue she told her she didn’t know this wahm made them (she wasn’t sure she had a store) and that she got it from the maker of the pattern who if she has a problem with that’s who she should take up with. this person isn’t out to make money she was out to help the board.

  367. CJ says:

    Where does that crochet doll pattern come from? Is BelliBow the original designer or is it a pattern available to anyone?

  368. zamgrawrz says:

    Speaking of fundraisers…I’m trying to come up with a craft my kids can do to sell online. Any suggestions? They want to go to camp next summer and they want to help by making some of the funds themselves ๐Ÿ™‚ We were going to sell candy door to door too but so far they haven’t been having any luck. People around here are meanie poopoo heads.

  369. DSDM2 says:

    MMspirt, post the email/pm she sent. I was under the impression she only asked that no more were made to be sold.

  370. DSDM2 says:

    CJ – BelliBow made it as far as I know.

  371. TeamB4me says:

    I love Bellibowbottoms! I have the cutest Obama doll from her. Although I have had the urge to dunk him in oil recently….

  372. Mmspirit7 says:

    I don’t have it I have from my friend, who got the pattern from another member at cdn, and she told her that. She normally only makes them for her daughter or family. she only did it this time to help the board. and if it’s not the wahms pattern I don’t see how she can ask for someone to stop making them.

  373. Mmspirit7 says:

    sorry I reread my message my friend sent and it did say don’t make more after this one. I am going to ask my friend if I can share her mess if you want to see it.

  374. DSDM2 says:

    Mmspirit,7, she doesn’t have to stop, but as has been brought up here over and over, the copycats are not looked at well and they begin to get shady reputations.

    How would you feel if you made a design, sold it for 1-2 years, and then someone else started making them?

    We talk about it here with silly-stripes, crankies, and with It’s A Snap. Stealing someone else’s idea is wrong, not necessarily “illegal”, but morally wrong. I associate it with people like Teressa and It’s A Snap.

  375. Mmspirit7 says:

    while i get that this wahms greif isn’t with my friend who got the pattern from someone other poster on CDN she asked that poster the pattern maker if she could offer one up on the board for the fundraiser. she believed she was on the up and up. she told the wahm that she didn’t know and she had asked the pattern maker if she could.

    so the wahm issue is with the pattern make not my friend. she isn’t trying to copy and steal others ideas. At all. she did what she thought was right, asked first before using the pattern.

  376. CJ says:

    If BelliBow made the pattern and does not sell it then I don’t think others should be using it at all. That is just a copycat situation.

    If she sells the pattern though, that is different. I’m not sure what the situation is. Either way though it doesn’t sound like the maker in question bought the pattern, but rather received it for free from another board member.

  377. Mmspirit7 says:

    And I agree copy catting is wrong to be honest I didn’t see these dolls until my friend messaged me and I went looking for the wahm. and I know i have seen similar patterns else were.

    But my friend didn’t even know she made them and she wouldn’t have done it if she thought she was wrong. but when you get a pattern from X person and they say it’s ok. Your going to be pissed when Y person pms you telling you to stop and you like what i have permission from the person that made the pattern. She didn’t know she made dolls like this.

  378. Mmspirit7 says:

    the maker in question got a pattern she was told by the person who gave her the pattern that she made the pattern. she didn’t know the wahm or her dolls.

    The wahm issue isn’t with my friend but the person who gave her this pattern she was told was made by the person giving it out

  379. mamaton says:

    Nope you read it correctly
    Norrahsmommy=mommaton=asshole & bitch and I’m not afraid to admit that yes I am an asshole and a bitch and Sala was that not you that sent me a rep agreeing with me too?

    No I didn’t ignore the mods, but I do feel like if they can call out my post then I should be able to state my point of view. And by too close I mean close enough to hinder my entry to my own vehicle from passenger or driver’s side. That means that if their car is so close to mine that I have to climb over my backseat to get dd into her carseat because I can’t open the passenger door- OR having to climb over my center console from the passenger side because I can’t open my drivers side door. If those 2 things aren’t happening- then I don’t really care how you park but by blocking my car it becomes my business. K- Thank.s

    And this is to MOM- Yes, that does make me an asshole too, and I realize that most people will disagree with me, BUT MOST of them either 1)have done it at least once, or 2) do it on a regular basis and just don’t have the balls to say it.

  380. DSDM2 says:

    But can you be mad at person Y for wanting to protect herself?

  381. TeamB4me says:

    Back to #371’s point, if bellibowbottoms just asked her to not make more for profit, is there an issue? Or did she ask her to take the listing down completely?

  382. Mmspirit7 says:

    She was made she felt attacked. does she understand now. yes but she does have a right to be upset and made at Y when she felt and believed she did everything right.

  383. DSDM2 says:

    From what I understand, and what Mmspirt7 confirmed, she only asked that no more be made to sell.

  384. Mmspirit7 says:

    She asked her not to make more at all…I thought she asked to take it down i re read the message. I am sorry for that mistake it’s on me.

    but she wasn’t making it for profit and never planned to she was making it just to support the board. she made others from the pattern for gifts and that was it.

  385. DSDM2 says:

    I’d love to see both the original message sent to her and the response back.

  386. TeamB4me says:

    So who is X person? And maybe she, Y and Z need to talk??

  387. kitty1163 says:

    I’m not following the crochet doll controversy at all. So confused.

  388. Mmspirit7 says:

    I don’t have it to share I have messaged her and asked for it.

    From what she told me she sent back was she wasn’t understanding why she got the message as it was another person pattern and she asked first. and that she was forwarding it to the admin in case something else needed to be done. she didn’t know what to do. she hasn’t heard back as of the last time I talked to her.

    I do believe that the wahm needs to take this up with the person that made the pattern…I know my friend well enough to know that she wouldn’t have set out to copy someone and she honestly thought the first message was crap and didn’t know if she was really a wahm with a store. She will probably not make any more as well not because she was asked but because she doesn’t want to copy someone else.

  389. Mmspirit7 says:

    But she probably won’t share it because it’s a pm on CDN and it’s not allowed per the rules. (just remembered that) I am asking if I can share her first message to me and then her reply.

  390. theinvisible says:

    I’m not feeling the crochet drama. It seems that she was asked nicely to not infringe on bbb pattern design. If mm got the pattern from someone else that’s all she has to say. If she isn’t planning to sell them, then it probably won’t come up again for her.

  391. TeamB4me says:

    I understand being a little shocked to get the message (If you had no idea about the copyright brewhaha in the WAHM world) but a simple google of her name would reveal she is a WAHM and IMO a well known WAHM.

  392. Incognizable says:

    Okay, I’m lost. Who created the doll pattern?!? Is the pattern for sale or avail for free?

  393. TeamB4me says:

    #381 Im not in that area so the only info I have is what is said here. I am ASSuming you dumped soda on someone car b/c of how they parked?

  394. DSDM2 says:

    Bellibow made a pattern. She does not give it out or sell it. She has had a store for a few years.

    She must have noticed the doll for sale (I did, and it was blatantly obvious that is was a knock off -intentional or not).

    She emailed the seller.

    Seller got mad, emailed back b/c she claims another person gave her the pattern.

    Really it doesn’t matter. Bellibows has been making them for a long time, is well known, and should not be copied.

  395. Mmspirit7 says:

    “I posted an auction on vbay for a piggy tale baby, X made the pattern, gave it to me so I could make one as a gift. I’ve made a few, but they were all gifts. Well I asked X if she minded if I offered one up for the vbay, she said it was fine, so I did. Shortly after I had some chick message me and tell me that she doesn’t appreciate me offering up something similar to what she offers, and not to make anymore after this one.”

    “i told her i have permission from the woman who made the pattern and that i was fw the convo to admin.”

    this is what i can share. I left parts where she said she was ticked. with that I need to run and play with the kids i might be back later

  396. Sala says:

    381. Please refer to post 343. I did not send you that rep; while I’m a vindictive bitch on occasion, I disagree with you in this regard. In my neighborhood that kind of behavior could get you killed.

  397. Mmspirit7 says:

    OH real quick i edited out the name of the pattern maker.

  398. TeamB4me says:

    The listing for said doll was put in CDN’s vBay auction-where I guess is the question of -since it is not for MM’s gain or profit-is it an issue. But if MM makes this doll and suzy Q buyer loves it and request another for a friend who request another for someone else..slippery slope, I suppose.

  399. theinvisible says:

    Big deal. I’m pretty sure she’ll be ok. There are worse things that could happen to you in life than someone telling you not to copy their design….like getting coke poured all over your car or your door dented by an angry housewife LOL.

  400. TeamB4me says:

    381 If that is the story (that you dumped something on someone’s car for whatever reason) I have to say I don’t know anyone that has or would do that. It’s immature but more importantly dangerous. Just flicking someone off has proven fatal for some people. I would never risk injury to myself or my kiddos just ‘show them!’

  401. Incognizable says:

    Am I understanding then that “someone else” not bellibow copied or created a “too similar” doll pattern and gave it to the auction mama to use for personal use and the auction?

  402. nini02 says:

    Hopefully Bellibow has been, or will soon be, informed of who ‘X’ is so she can ask some questions.

  403. TeamB4me says:

    *to just ‘show them’ ! Gah….

  404. Myself says:

    Well jflowers and mayasmommie just hit my do not b/s/t list.

    And BJ did NOT send a Nasty PM. And all communications were sent to Melody. Plus I’m almost positive that you can share PMs at your own discretion.

    I have Bj’s permission to share the “nasty” message she sent.

    ” The doll you have up for auction is very similar to the dolls I’ve been making and selling for almost 2 years. I worked really hard to make something new and different and affordable for kids. I’ve basically built my whole business around my dolls. I would really appreciate it if this was the last one you made.



    Yeah, SO NASTY, my fly might die in that sugar.

  405. DSDM2 says:

    Well, that is kind of bitchy of them. Not to mention it sounds like they knew they copied.

    That letter is very gracious.

  406. Myself says:

    Yeah and that is the only message Bj has sent to them.

    She talked to Melody who advised her to sent a PM to mayasmommie, which she did.

    :twitch: < – not to Bj, just the situation in general

  407. Mmspirit7 says:

    the message are from 16 hours ago after she got the pm.

    403 yes you are right except that until my friend got that pm she didn’t know it was a copy and she got pissed.

  408. DSDM2 says:


    Someone supposedly gave a pattern to mayasmommie who made a doll almost identical to Bellibow’s dolls and auctioned it for CDN.

    Bellibow PMed mayasmommie and asked that no more after that one be made. That she designed the doll, and has made them for years.

    Now they are talking nasty about Bellibows on facebook and admit to copying her work more.

  409. DSDM2 says:

    MayasMommie had no reason to get pissed from that email. None. That was more than gracious and polite, and if I got that, I would no longer make or sell those items.

  410. coffeehoar says:

    One billionty posts later…. Melmelly, it was up Winchuck River, next to a peahen farm (LOUD!!!). It was beyond awesome to be a tourist, but I think if I lived there, the tourists would drive be bat shit insane. The driving was crazy, especially after the fireworks were over. I was sad to see about a hundred dogs running around loose and panicked. I assumed they had been brought by their owners and then ran off at the noise of the fireworks.

  411. Incognizable says:

    ah got it, thanks DSDM2 ๐Ÿ˜‰

  412. theinvisible says:

    She’s on CDN and she crochets but she didn’t know that bellibow makes those dolls? What Ever. And that PM…more than gracious. Definitely worth being “pissed” enough to tell all of your online friends about how you were “attacked”.

  413. DSDM2 says:

    Shady, shady. Kinda… snatch-ish don’t you think?

  414. erinbeth says:

    OK, so would one of you lovely ladies like to give me the clif notes on this? I am ALMOST following…..

  415. erinbeth says:

    Oh, wait, I missed the nast fb thing…I can’t keep up!

  416. Myself says:

    just go to the link I posted sweetie

  417. erinbeth says:

    THanks I found it!

  418. TeamB4me says:

    A listing is placed on vBay at CDN
    Bellibowbottoms sees listing and sends pm to MM’s (the offerer of said aunction doll) and says (See post #406). MM feels attacked and tells her friends about this pm. Mmspirit brings this here.
    MM claims she received permission from the creator if this pattern to do this doll and this auction with this pattern. This mystery creator is …well a mystery.
    On FB it is discovered that there are two dolls made by two different people….(I’m curious if jflowers sold the doll to MM or gave it to her. Total side note there)
    Admin is aware of the situation.
    Bellibowbottoms is aware of this thread ๐Ÿ˜‰
    And I need to shower. Thats about the jest of it.

  419. Mmspirit7 says:

    Well I can understand being on cdn and not knowing this is what this wahm was known for making I didn’t know I have been there a long time.

    No the pm wasn’t nasty, (i also didn’t see it) but I can understand being pissed at getting it anyways. she didn’t think she did wrong.

    and yeah the comments on her fb pics, well that’s after the pm and she was very pissed of. now if the other person made it knowing it was a copy that’s different. I think the wahm beef isn’t with my friend but with the person she got the pattern from.

    Not everyone in the CD world knows what every wahm makes. I don’t i can see this being a mistake on my friends part. not so much on the pattern makers though

  420. Myself says:

    421 – Oh don’t even, you are just as much at fault for making a mountain out of a molehole. All you had to do was look up the person in question and you would have found out that she was a WAHM.

    Instead you came on here and ran your mouth. Which for the record, may cause Bj to get kicked off her congo. Thanks so much, NOT.

  421. erinbeth says:

    So, if the PM was nice and it was an honest tmistake, why all the nasiness now? Why not just appologize and ask if she should pull the listing or just stop making them from here on out? I don’t know, it sounds like uncalled for defensiveness…

  422. theinvisible says:

    She didn’t think she did anything wrong so she’s pissed because this mama informed her *very nicely* and asked *very nicely* not to sell them? That makes sense.
    She could have just said ok, sorry and that would have been the end of it. I don’t think she’s going to get the asspats she or you or whoever thought she’d get by bringing this here. Actually, she kind of looks like an ass for getting all kinds of pissy about it in the first place.

  423. nini02 says:

    I have to agree with the others, getting pissed over that message is really strange and this whole thing seems blown out of proportion – except for someone else taking credit for the pattern. My nosy side is dying to know who mystery person X is, lol.

  424. Sala says:

    I don’t have FB so didn’t see the shit talking there. I’m confused; why would this threaten BJ’s place on a congo if she’s the one who’s been polite throughout?

  425. Just Peachy says:

    Funny I could’ve sworn this was the diaperswappers drama blog. Why did you have to bring that here Charise?

  426. ladylili says:

    I don’t understand why this was brought to this blog at all (especially by a third party).

    Bj is a sweetheart and it would suck if she got kicked off her congo because someone was running their mouth when they shouldn’t have been.

  427. erinbeth says:

    424 That was my point. Did it sound like I was saying the opposite? err

  428. ladylili says:

    Oh off topic but Redhead my dd thinks your monster is a butterfly. ๐Ÿ™‚

  429. TeamB4me says:

    Yeah. None of us would have a clue about this-because it is being handled by admin, etc had it not been brought here. Now there is going to be a lot of talk that could have a negative impact on several people. Things happen for reason and made MM needed this to be clued into the WAHM world and stepping on toes but….eh…I feel for Bj.

  430. Myself says:

    Because of the rules of her congo, even the hint of a smear can get her kicked off.

  431. nini02 says:

    Oh man. Re: 432, I can understand having a rule about bad publicity or something, but that would be awful if she got kicked off for this. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

  432. Myself says:

    I really doubt she will.

    But the point was that Charise smeared her without thinking through to the possible consequences and without knowing all the facts.

    She didn’t even bother doing a simple search.

    She could even have messaged DSDM2 on YIM, who I am sure would have given her the information she needed.

  433. erinbeth says:

    434 I totally agree. It sounds as though she jumped the gun BIG time…

  434. theinvisible says:

    429 no, we posted at the same time. great minds and all that lol

  435. DSDM2 says:

    Peach, et all, you are right, it shouldn’t have been brought here, and most definitely not by a third party trying to gain sympathy for the guilty party. I already know about the situation, and chose not to bring it up b/c it really didn’t rank big drama to me.

    Coming here, with something non DS related to smear a WAHM that didn’t deserve it is not cool. All it did is make the other mama look like an ass.

  436. Just Peachy says:

    Thanks DSDM2. I could see if it was scammer related but neither party was scamming.

  437. Redhead says:

    Ladylili.. aww cute! I guess I never noticed that – I thought it looked a crazed lobster. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  438. Mmspirit7 says:

    Listen I don’t want to hurt the Wahm I don’t and I am sorry i was upset for a friend I didn’t see the pm till posted here. Again I am sorry your right I shouldn’t have brought it here.

    I am sorry to all involved and I am the ass here

  439. cdnation says:

    Dear 381

    You just directed this at me

    “And this is to MOM- Yes, that does make me an asshole too, and I realize that most people will disagree with me, BUT MOST of them either 1)have done it at least once, or 2) do it on a regular basis and just donโ€™t have the balls to say it.”

    You are again wrong, I tell my kids every time they open the car door to be-careful of the car next to us. I make sure my door does not smack the car next to me.

    I repeat, I don’t give a rats ass what you do to show your ass, don’t come to my site bragging about the illegal things you are doing. It will get you banned.

    Feel free to whine here some more about that. Or perhaps you’d like to grow the balls you talk about and address me on that thread if you’re so sure that the majority of people have done the same thing.

  440. Aj says:

    I just noticed SativaStar deleted her siggy. I wonder if someone tipped her off to this blog?

  441. naturalmamadot says:

    What was her siggy before?

  442. Myself says:

    Well jflowers deleted her comments about the having made one of the dolls and getting a nasty email.

    Too bad I didn’t take a screen shot of it.

  443. Bj-bellibowbottoms says:

    Hi, I just wanted to pop in and say thanks to DSDM2 and the rest who cleared everything up. I really wish that this had been kept quiet between CDN mods, me, and C. That way, it didn’t have to become dramafied at all.

    I most likely will be fine at my congo (The Chain Gang) even though we do have a no bullshit/drama policy in effect.

  444. Aj says:

    443, she had a detailed run down of all her preemies stats, their ages, gestation & their special needs. She also had a ticker for this current pregnancy.

  445. magpiedpiper says:

    I still have the FB page up from earlier if someone needs a screenshot for some reason. You can PM at CDN. Same name.

  446. Myself says:

    Awesome magpied.

    Just someone might need it for proof. They deleted or blocked it.

  447. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    BJ, I’m sorry you were hurt in any of this. I’m not bashing anyone or pointing any fingers, just wanted to say as long as I’ve known you, you’ve been a classy lady and an excellent WAHM.

  448. Mmspirit7 says:

    445…I owe you a personal apology I didn’t mean to hurt you at but was just shocked as i had understood and still do that the pattern was made by someone else. Again I am sorry shouldn’t have brought it and I am so at fault for this mess it’s not funny.

  449. DSDM2 says:

    No, Mmspirit7, the fault doesn’t lie with you, it lies with C going around and showing her ass to anyone who would listen and trying to blow up a situation and “get people on her side” before it was all sorted out. If ANYONE needs to apologize, it is the 2 ladies in the facebook link, primarily C.

    Bj, what you wrote in no way justified this behavior. It was gracious and forgiving. In no way was it accusatory or rude, unlike the obvious response that C gave to you.

  450. DSDM2 says:

    magpied, I would send it to Mel just in case she needs it. People who start out stealing other people’s ideas and get that defensive and rude are usually guilty of something else that hasn’t surfaced yet.

  451. sourpatchbabe says:

    You think she’s trying to send a message?

  452. Redhead says:

    So tempting to post in that thread that I am “sick of the dramarific-scammer-liar-mama who begs for FFS items from everyone”, and post that I “know she under investigation already by several mods at several different sites”.

    I know you’re reading Stacie. Things are catching up and the hot seat is getting warm for your skinny butt. hug hug, kiss kiss.

  453. JustMe says:

    BJ – I :wub: you… ๐Ÿ˜€ And your dolls. Especially the ninjas, and I’m not even a ninja gal hehe

  454. Myself says:

    Who is autumnstar?

    And who is she trying to say DSDM2 is?

  455. Myself says:

    NM, I figured it out.

    She was quoting Willow.

    She was saying that CDMP is DSDM2, totally not true.

  456. organicmomma says:

    anyone know who lisa marie gibbings is and why when I google her name this blog comes up?

  457. organicmomma says:

    I mean gittings? Same Lisa that owns the shop cloth diaper me please?! Anyone?

  458. smartassmama says:

    Really creative OM.
    I google her and I don’t get that. Imagine that. I think that theory is at least a year old, and I think it was proven wrong.

  459. organicmomma says:

    Try googling lisa marie gittings on the search here…Of course it was proved wrong, because she wants to stay private. Or try lisa marie gittings criminal record, should be the 4th search down. I haven’t scammed anyone, all I want is to be left alone, but you people keep bringing my name up and posting my threads. You keep saying I’m a scammer. Well, who did i scam?

  460. organicmomma says:

    I’m using bing btw..

  461. smartassmama says:

    Don’t guess I’m picking up what you’re putting down. I searched in the search here, and while it returned a few results, the name is no where in them. And of course it returned results of the blog, since that’s where I searched.

    And I personally never called you a scammer, because I’m not privy to those PMs/IMs, and because I’ve got the memory of a goldfish. But I have noticed that you like to make personal digs at people, even on serious emotional issues. Not cool.

    And deflection usually only brings the attention back to you.

  462. Myself says:

    Wow, unless you have proof that she is CDMP, you better shut up.

    Second, unless you want to be charged with cyber stalking along with Willow, leave Lisa Marie alone.

    Third, unless you want someone who knows your full name to be posting it here, I strongly suggest that you not EVER post someone’s full name again.

    Fourth, I couldn’t care less what search engine you used. I googled her and not once did this blog come up in the first two pages.

    So shut up and go away before you end up like Felish – a

  463. smartassmama says:

    OOoooOO, that confessions post – #645. I’m not going to say anything, since it’s all confessions, supposed to respect that. But I’ve just added someone to my not-a-friend list! turd.

  464. organicmomma says:

    All i want is for everyone to stop. You keep saying i’m a scammer, but who did i scam? There ARE laws against what you are doing here…it is called cyber bullying/defacement. You can’t just call people names and drag their names/business through the mud. So, STOP!!

  465. organicmomma says:

    This is the VERY LAST thing i have to say, unless I see my name brought up here again. YOU all have done a very good job of showing who is stalking who. You for some reason know who and how much yarn i’ve bought, you post my threads, you post my username on DS, my business link. You have NO proof that I have scammed anyone because I haven’t. I have made a couple overlooks on my behalf, two to be exact that were accidents, if I didn’t have problems with the diapers, I didn’t expect anyone else to either, so, my bad. They were both paid back promptly. I on the other hand have proved why I needed/wanted the ffs and where the ffs diapers went(the screenshot of my email and also the DS mama that everything else was given to once my friend couldn’t use it). There is not ONE SINGLE THREAD anywhere that shows me selling diapers I was given ffs, because I didn’t do it. I appologize if I have hurt anyone’s feelings with sensitive digs. I was upset and i’m sure if you read up, you can see many digs on me. On my behalf, two wrongs don’t make a right and I should have let all of you just dig on me, but that’s not who I am. Just because you think i’m “annoying” doesn’t give you the right to call me a scammer and such. Again, I am sorry if I hurt anyone, sometimes when I get upset, I have a hard time controlling my mouth. But please, please…stop posting about me, calling names and just LEAVE ME BE…

  466. treeindawind says:

    OM-honey just walk away from the computer. I haven’t been keeping up much with this drama, and I *personally* don’t have a problem with you. I am just saying from one woman to another, just walk away. Stop coming back and digging up what should be the past by now. It’s only going to make it worse in the end.

  467. DSDM2 says:

    Wow OM, you are just proving what we are saying.

    I’m not CDMP, but thanks, I do think she is pretty cool.

    OM, there have been multiple people who have come to me, some of which posted here and some of which are going to DS mods (after coming to me) about your begging and trying to guilt people into giving things away for free. The personal diggs and trying to hurt random people like RedHead and CDMP don’t make any sense unless you are guilty.

  468. DSDM2 says:

    All of those who have IMed me or have had issues with OM, please IM me again.

  469. knittingfool says:

    WTH is up with HC? Now Gulf Coast Knits is on tomorrowa calendar. She was kicked off ages ago because she is the ultimate scammer.

  470. Don't you want to know. says:

    OM, you are making yourself really look stupid. You claim that what we all do when we post here is illegal, but you posted over and over worse things then have been said about you and do the same thing to multiple others. I don’t see how you think you have any clout with your threats? You brought up your less then stellar transactions here. You were fine until people didn’t asspat you, and when people addressed their issues with you directly all you did was try to attack and deflect the blame.
    Pull that stick out of your butt before you come back again and try to act like a normal person.

  471. BffMama says:

    Oh my…this just keeps getting more and more odd (OMs behavior).

  472. sissy hankshaw says:

    465 I saw that. I know there’s supposed to be no judgements but damn…to throw that out there where she knows alot of woman who EBF are going to read. I’ll be remembering her name.

    468 yeah that. This is like watching a train wreck. I really don’t think OM is a scammer, she seems to just have a problem thinking before she types. Her whole thing with asking for free stuff may be inappropriate but I think she has probably learned her lesson already. I’m starting to feel bad for her. She’s obviously pretty upset by all this and acting out because of it. She has said some pretty nasty things here but I really don’t think a public crucification is in order.

    And seriously OM, step away from the computer. This would have went away from the beginning if you would have handled it better, like by not calling people here fat bitches that need to pay more attention to their kids.

  473. Redhead says:

    OM, who has “defaced” you? Do you even know what that means? Try another term next time.

    Kudos for making yourself look like an idiot (again) and suggesting DSDM2 is CDMP. Why not go ahead and tell everyone that I am DSDM2 as well? Or that me, Smartassmama & Flat Stanley are ALL DSDM2 in one (The “Triune DSDM2”, ah ha!). Keep accusing, one day maybe you’ll get it right, but I doubt it.

    Awesome skillz of posting a full name here on the board that has NOTHING to do with YOU or this situation. So far, nobody has posted private info on you, but hey- I have your full name and your address (and more THAT YOU GAVE ME), wanna keep playing?
    You posted all of your info. I linked above where you- YOU OrganicMomma- outed your real name as Stacie, your fault, dearie.
    It is your own fault you’re under investigation. I know for a fact you already were being watched by mods for your bad BSTing, that is before people tipped them off on your begging for handouts and using YOUR FRIENDS tragedies to gain free stuff.

    Everything posted on this site has **already** been posted ***BY YOU*** at one time or another. YOUR FAULT. Own up to your actions and quit trying to make this into something it isn’t. Won’t work.

  474. sissy hankshaw says:

    and holy shiz I think this is like 3rd or 4th internet brawl I’ve seen norrah’smommie/mamaton in.

  475. smartassmama says:

    I am trying to come up with a tactful way to reply to that, but honest-to-God, I can’t think of anything. And it’s going to irk me.

    I’m just telling myself that someone with a 5mo talking about what people do with their 1yo+ is just as ignorant and those who have no kids giving parenting advice. I swear, I have to think it frequently lately, but I love the adage, “I used to know everything about being a parent. Then I became one.” Same thing. It just grinds my gears. Like, when my son turned one, he didn’t start talking that day. Does she really think that 1yr olds talk in normal sentences? He talks better than my daughter did at this age, and he only knows 5 ‘words,’ and no one else would know what 3 of them are.

    I should probably stop typing now though. I really ought to play with him, since he’s being neglected. But I’ll make sure not to BF him, since he’s going to Harvard next week. :rolleyesout:

  476. smartassmama says:

    Yep. Me and redhead are the same person. I just enjoy talking to myself.


    And I wonder what CDMP would have to say with you announcing her whole name on the blog. Perhaps you want to blare my social, or somebody else’s home address and birthdate. But you’d need to make sure it’s not a regular poster here, so that they can’t stand up to you. It’s much easier that way.

    btw, good morning everybody!

  477. sissy hankshaw says:

    477 lol to true.

    And good morning to everyone also! Happy 4th!

  478. Redhead says:

    Stacie Brussow. Viroqua, WI.
    AKA AutumnStar
    AKA OrganicMomma
    AKA StacieStarSage
    AKA Rag_uh_muffin (photobucket/Myspace)

    … I can keep going. Getting chummy with stalker Willow (yes, Willow IS the stalker) is messed up- you don’t know the full story, not in the least.

  479. Redhead says:

    PS- All this information was *already public*, Stacie. Things you have posted and allowed on the ‘net for everyone to view.

  480. smartassmama says:

    I tried to follow that whole mess when I came across a link a few months ago. Very confusing for someone who wasn’t active on the board when it happened.

  481. Redhead says:

    Also, I knew about the yarn. Because you tried to get me to sell my wool for “$10 and some change” (claiming that was all you had in your PP account and couldn’t afford more).. then YOU posted on YOUR FB about your latest expensive yarn purchase right afterwards.

    Don’t want people to know details on you? Here’s a suggestion: then stop posting all your information everywhere for the public eye to view.

  482. zamgrawrz says:

    477-thats what I was thinking. Her baby is like 5-6 months old, she has no idea how she’ll feel about it later. And yeah, she has no clue that babies aren’t *talking* at 1 either, most of the time. I mean, my little sister started at 6 months and was talking in full sentences at a year but we all know thats not the norm. Hell, my 2 year old still won’t say more than 2 words yet (mama and baby. lol). Although I suppose at least she’s trying to get to 1 year-thats better than a lot of new moms. Even I weaned two of mine at 9 months (for biting non-stop, I couldn’t take it anymore!)

    What almost annoyed me more in that post was her complaining about her DD crying over *nothing.* Sweetie, thats the only way she can tell you what she wants. If she’s done being in the swing, how the heck else is she going to let you know? It just irks me when parents don’t seem to get that. Don’t get mad at the baby for it ๐Ÿ˜ฆ Of course, I was a heck of a lot more high strung with my first than I am now.

  483. zamgrawrz says:

    I’m poor, can I buy yarn for $10, or preferably get it free. Not that I need it, its just that I’m poor and deserve it. *nod*


  484. smartassmama says:

    I’m poor, but right now I’d most appreciate a house-cleaning service, pro-bono.
    Or just someone to pick up everything that the kids & DH leave everywhere.

  485. sissy hankshaw says:

    I’m one awful mom. I continued bfing after my 2nd one started talking and will do the same for this one. I guess I can’t help being a weirdo hippy, I actually let my child stop when he was ready to stop. I wish I’d have gotten some advice from her and forced him to stop at one yrs old. I hope i didn’t scar him for life letting him go until he was almost three.

  486. Redhead says:

    Can I add another thing (I’m cooking and keep walking back and forth from the computer).

    Stacie, guess who posted the link to your friend who lost the baby? You.
    Guess who posted the email address and name of the other mama you claim lost the baby? You.

    You (yes you, Stacie Brussow) posted those on a PUBLIC forum. Nobody here hacked into your account and got that info, you did it on your own accord.

  487. zamgrawrz says:

    I wouldn’t mind a housecleaning service either. Or a carpet fairy to take away our ugly stained carpet and replace it with wood or laminate. That alone would take away so much stress….I’m sooo tired of carpet cleaning! D:

  488. zamgrawrz says:

    I’ve always wondered, do most people who nurse for an extended period not have biters? Or do their kids just learn and stop doing it? Cause my kids went for 3+ months biting, I did everything I was supposed to, and they still turned around and did it again the next time. And the next time. And then my 18 month old literally bit through my nipple and I had to stop with her too (and she had bit me really hard a few nursings before that too). WTH IS WITH MY KIDS AND BITING?? >.<

  489. Aj says:

    My almost 2 year old is a biter. He bit me a few times before he turned 1, but eventually stopped, not sure why. Now he just likes to bite his sisters and friends.

  490. Aj says:

    Oh, and he’s still nursing if that wasn’t clear ๐Ÿ˜‰

  491. piratebaby says:

    I bf my last baby for 14 mos. He didn’t bite exactly, but he scraped his teeth. I bf all my other children and never had a problem with cracked nipples, but O.M.G after 13 mos! I finally weaned bc I couldn’t stand it, I dreaded nursing and it was no longer an enjoyable time for us. Funny thing was he went from only cuddling while nursing to being the biggest cuddle bunny ever! We still co-sleep (he’s almost 20 mos) and will until he’s around 2.5 or 3, and we still enjoy lots of cuddle time.

  492. sissy hankshaw says:

    I think I remember him biting a few times but never hard. i think I just tried to put more nipple in so it was harder for him to bite if you can understand what i mean lol. I went to almost 3 i think, I can’t remember exactly when he stopped. I’m awful at keeping track of stuff like that. i remember thinking I’d never bf for that long until I did, it just seemed right for my LO at the time. I certainly never would’ve judged anyone else for doing it.

  493. sissy hankshaw says:

    My 4 yr old still gets in bed with us. I have to do that wall thing with the pillows. At least one of my friends think I’m crazy but whatever. My kids are pretty well adjusted and are always safe. And that bitch smoked while she was pregnant so….I love her but dear god wtf! I obviously don’t take parenting advice from her.

  494. zamgrawrz says:

    That annoys me too….not to judge, as I’ve never been a smoker, but it seems like if people can quit for other random reasons, being pregnant would be a damned good reason to. My fiance’s parents quit because they didn’t like spending the money on them, lol.

  495. smartassmama says:

    With my youngest, he nibbled a couple times, like he was trying to figure out what his teeth were for. He’s bitten me just a few times as he has drifted off to sleep and it slips out of his mouth. I’m also not sensitive there very much at all. Actually nak right now.

    My oldest weaned at around 10.5 months. I was pregnant with her brother though, so they were sensitive. Just feeling her teeth on them hurt, & made me irritable.

  496. TeamB4me says:

    Biting has almost ended nursing for us a few times but in the beginning it seemed to be when he was teething many. Now it’s when he is overly tired. Putting him down and saying no-no seems to work so far.
    490 Biting through my nipple would have done it for me. OUCH.

  497. zamgrawrz says:

    It got infected too. Its kinda embarrassing having to go to the ER over a bit nipple, but I had a fever of 105 and I NEVER get a fever. I thought I was dying. lol.

    At least the doctor I got was understanding. He said he had 6 kids and his wife had bf them all so it wasn’t a big deal to him ๐Ÿ™‚

  498. Sissy Hankshaw says:

    Zamgrawz I quit when I was about 20. I succeeded mainly because the friend I mentioned was so pissed, she tried her best to get me to start back up but I didn’t just to spite her lol. We have a sort of competitive friendship if you can’t tell lol. We both acknowledge this though, we are the ones we can be catty with and forgive each other later.

  499. Messy says:

    Just going to the link provided in post #106… Uhhh, someone might have lost a baby but it did not happen like that. (This is one thread about ONE of her friends losing their newborn.)
    Post 1: Baby born and died a couple hours later.
    Post 6: They were co-sleeping (at 2 hours post birth)
    Next Day
    Post 28: Memorial *next day*
    Post 29: OM is called on the co-sleeping issue (tentatively)
    Post 31: OM states there was an autopsy. She then backpeddles on the co-sleeping.
    THERE IS NO WAY an autopsy was done and the baby returned the next day. Period. The baby died at 2 hours old! Co-sleeping with a 2 hour old infant? Autopsy done same day so memorial is next day? In most places if the parents had a smothered newborn only 2 hours old, it would be a criminal case and autopsy ordered. Findings of an autopsy are not next day reading.
    I thought about this a lot last night because I do not post about baby passings, but this just ate at me all night. Why would someone lie about circumstances of a baby’s death? Following begging for diapers? I dunno…

  500. nu says:

    I didn’t read the post about BF, Harvard, talking–might have to go do that!
    I bf for 33 months. He did bite once (not hard) and I took him off the breast and said, No bite, Ouch. He didn’t bite again.

    I’m listening to him play with his Thomas trains and his older brother. He is gabbing up a storm!

  501. zamgrawrz says:

    501-we were talking about this last night (by we, I mean my fiance and I) and we both think the same thing. They don’t do autopsies that fast, let alone release the results that quickly. At least not that I’ve ever seen/heard. And who plans a memorial THAT fast? Homebirth or not, I’d still be curled up in a ball crying.

  502. Redhead says:

    As of June 10th there was no memorial. I found the obituary.

  503. Messy says:

    So, WHY did she lie about it? What was the motive? It takes a special kind of person to lie about such things. However, I think it ties in closely with the begging for free/ubber reduced items.

  504. Sissy Hankshaw says:

    I have an issue with this even being brought up by someone other than the mom or dad on a public forum. Losing a child is such a painful deeply personal experience I don’t think it’s right to say more than a few regretful words then to move on. Messy do you have a link, I miss alot since I don’t post every day. I’m curious about this though.

  505. Redhead says:

    Sissy, this is it:

    I didn’t post the obituary I found because I feel it is a very sensitive issue. OM, however, needs to be called out on her inconsistencies as far as what happened, because she was begging for freebies for this person- and I think those who donated deserve to know the truth.

    Just like this situation with CWise87. She used pictures/story from another family to gain free stuff. While CW87 was asking for the items specifically for herself, it still is shady.

  506. Redhead says:

    AND, I have a FB message from June 7th, at 8:37pm (from Stacie) saying the autopsy was that day and came up as undetermined/SIDS.

    She says on the thread the autopsy results came June 8th.

  507. Sissy Hankshaw says:

    Thanks. I need to go to cdn more, I got out of the habit when they were changing servers. I had this long post that I just erased because I don’t even want to get into this. Basically I still feel this shouldn’t have even brought up in a public forum no matter how good her intentions were. Some things are better left unsaid. I especially think it was wrong to
    bring up the possibility their co sleeping was responsible. How awful to throw that out there.

  508. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    508- There’s no way that’s true. A very dear friend of mine lost her 5-week-old to SIDS three years ago, and it was (still is) state-required that an autopsy be done because of his age and lack of obvious COD. She wasn’t able to have his body for the funeral for weeks, and I distinctly remember it was more than a month after the autopsy was complete and the body was released to the funeral home that she received the autopsy report confirming SIDS as the COD. Pardon the gore, but there are so many blood and tissue samples that need to be done for a thorough autopsy to rule out and determine exact causes. This is standard procedure for infant/child deaths across the country, not just my state.

    As for the whole defamation/cyber-bullying thing… I am being stalked, harassed, and cyber-bullied, as you all well know, and have seen for the last several threads here. What we have learned through our research over the last several months is that basically, any info I put out there about myself is NOT under those categories. I essentially volunteered it to the nasty person(and her friends) who is following me around. I have since made every effort to make private many of these things. People can still easily hop on Google, and find out my full name, maiden name, address, telephone number, age, DOB, etc, simply because this is the internet age. What makes the difference is what you all have seen here: the bully and her henchmen following me around the internet, joining cloth-diapering boards that she has no reason to be on just because she knows I’m a member and she wants to harass me, hacking mine and my friends’ Facebook pages and sending nasty messages “from us” to family members just to stir up trouble, finding me here and just throwing out the baseless insults and being nasty without cause or evidence. THOSE are examples of cyber-bullying and libel. Putting back in your face what you have volunteered about yourself IS NOT under those categories.

  509. anAKmama says:

    Not defending OM at all here, but I have to mention that I have fibromyalgia and I knit. I can’t always, sometimes my hands hurt too badly. But I can do it most days. It’s one of the few things I can still do. Then again, I don’t claim to be disabled.

  510. anAKmama says:

    Oh and also, I could not work fast food or retail. No way I could be on my feet that much. It’s desk jobs for me.

  511. Redhead says:

    511, I do agree that she is capable of knitting and crocheting. But to say she does it as a business, and her only source of income, and to have the illnesses she claims she does is a bit much.
    Plus she is FAST at crocheting. Anyone with joint/tissue issues can’t whip up a pair of shorties in an hour or two.

  512. zamgrawrz says:

    I didn’t mean to imply that theres no way anyone with fibromyalgia could ever knit or crochet but yeah, doing it as a business seems a bit unlikely. Unless it were a very occasional stocking like I’m planning (for completely unrelated reasons. I’m just a slow poke….danged ADD. lol)

  513. organicmomma says:


  514. Messy says:

    OM, you are lying. Period.

  515. ladylili says:

    Yeah, cause writing in ALL CAPS makes you seem more believable.

  516. Messy says:

    I’m gonna be honest here. I think that OM is a begger, just this side of scammer. She begged for diapers and deals from people. Playing heartstrings is her MO (haha, MO…OM) and she was in the stages of setting up something else. Who knows.
    I can (and obviously WILL) say anything I want to about this because I know the timeline of a baby’s funeral both with and without an autopsy. Even without an autopsy, it takes longer; however, what Redhead said about the memorial not having happened yet makes more sense.
    Also, who blames a 2 HOUR old baby’s death on co-sleeping??? Gimme a break.
    You are a liar. And not a very bright one.

  517. .bin. says:

    Anyone else notice kaitlynmamawhatever post on the vents thread??

    Am I wrong or is this not the ‘best friend’ who cheated in said girlfrien and got HER pregnant? And she wonders why the chick hates her.

  518. organicmomma says:

    What part about homebirth don’t you understand?! They didn’t need to run to the hospital and get an autopsy right away. They wanted their friends and family to meet their child before they had a funeral. I’m not lying and I know the truth, so, it doesn’t matter. But the fact that you are all sitting here, talking about a deceased child is wrong. I know what happened, I went to the memorial, i did not attend the funeral which were two different things. Move on, and stop talking about a child that is no longer in this world please. I said I would stop posting here if you stopped talking about me, so…STOP!

  519. Redhead says:

    organicmomma Says:
    July 4, 2010 at 9:52 pm

    Stacie Brussow
    June 7 at 8:37pm
    Oh, there was an autopsy, it was undetermined. So, they are saying sids.

    06-09-2010, 09:33 AM
    organicmomma organicmomma is offline
    I heard this place rocks!
    I did go. They seemed in good spirits. They were co-sleeping when the baby died, but i guess the reason was undetermined(which i found out yesterday), so they are saying it was SIDS. The way I had heard the story before I went to the memorial and before the autopsy, was that he was smothered while they were co-sleeping, but that was not the case.

    organicmomma Says:
    July 4, 2010 at 10:08 pm

    What part about homebirth donโ€™t you understand?! They didnโ€™t need to run to the hospital and get an autopsy right away.

    Anyway, read over that for a bit.

    So when was the autopsy? You’re saying it was right away after the death, then a day later to you’re not sure when, then you state they didn’t have an autopsy right away.

    Quit posting your friends tragedies everywhere and blaming us when we try to make sense of your crap.

  520. zamgrawrz says:

    Wait, who was it on here that was offering me free diapers? Did she end up sending them to OM? Cause if so, that sucks. I mean, I have no problem with them going to someone who needs them more than I, but….yeah….

    And I still can’t imagine thinking “oh hey, we should have a memorial tomorrow/today” just after my baby passed. Honestly I probably would’ve been at the hospital regardless because my first thought would be to call 911. Again, I’ve never been in this situation so I dunno, I could be wrong….I guess I should stay out of this mess.

  521. Redhead says:

    .bin. I almost asked her “weren’t you the ‘other woman’ with him at some point?”

  522. ladylili says:

    Talking about a child who passed is sad, but I’m not understanding something.

    The baby passes away at 2 hours old, did they not call 911?

  523. ladylili says:

    522 – I should refresh before I post.

  524. .bin. says:

    Ugh I soooo want to say something ” are you really surprised she doesn’t like you her boyfriend got you pregnant didn’t he?”

  525. Messy says:

    OM: what part of “tissue break down” and “deterioration” do YOU not get? The baby could not be kept at home laying around for days, you fucking idiot!!! What the hell is wrong with you???
    You are using someone else’s loss, making up a story to go with it, and you are a liar. Can’t get worse than that.

  526. organicmomma says:

    I was not told directly by her anything about the autopsy. I was told by a business partner. So, maybe he was wrong or I misunderstood. I don’t know, but i just said the funeral was later. There was a memorial where you could meet the baby, they had an unassisted homebirth also. They wanted to spend as much time with their child as they could, so, I could understand on their behalf not running to a hospital. must I keep repeating?

  527. ladylili says:

    So they just hung out with a dead baby in there home for a few days?

    That makes me sad.

  528. organicmomma says:

    I believe redhead just said as did others, the memorial to meet the baby was THE NEXT DAY, he wasn’t lying around “for days”. I understand completely about that. Keep talking about it if you want. I know what happened, I explained it.

  529. Messy says:

    Baby takes a breath and then stops and they do not call 911? Seriously??? WTF is wrong with you??? Babies that die of SIDS do not get kept at home for days… Their parents call 911.
    The SIDS lie is a lie too.
    You begged for diapers. You needed to come up with some quick excuse for the mama not getting them or whatever questions would come. You see a “friend” (if you even knew her) had a loss and are making up a story to go with it… Yeah, if you weren’t called on it, I bet we would be seeing said free diapers on FSOT.
    You suck.

  530. werd says:

    DUDE, this just does not add up, I’m sorry. They find their child deceased, and they do NOTHING?! Not even call the police, 911, nothing?!?! How is that even legal? How did they not get investigated for that? I’m sorry, that is just not believable. None of this adds up.

  531. Redhead says:

    Business partner? So someone helps you crochet?

  532. Myself says:

    Okay, something you are not understanding.

    You HAVE to show proof of birth, proof of death. They HAD to have a medical examiner examine that child.

    When my mother passed away, at the “ripe” age of 40, we had to call 911 and tell her she had died. They sent an ambulance out to collect her body. They pronounced her dead at the scene and went with the time we said she had passed away.

    It took over 5 hours for that to happen. This did not include the time to argue about finances in front of us, joy.

    Again, I reiterate, you can only get a certificate of death if a medical examiner actually looks at the child and they have to sign off on cause of death so that is an AUTOPSY.

    And you are a scammer, you time line does NOT add up at all.

    Even with knowing that my mother had died of “natural causes” it still took us a MONTH to have the memorial service/ funeral.

  533. ladylili says:

    If your going to use quotes at least quote what I actually said. I didn’t say “for days” I said “for a few days.”

    I have a hard time believing that a baby could die at home, be kept at that home for a day or two and no one would think that was suspicious. This whole thing just boggles my mind.

    And if you are good enough friends with this women to beg for ffs diapers for her, how do you not even know if her baby had an autopsy or when the autopsy was.

  534. organicmomma says:

    YOU know we own a solar business also…wtf? It’s in the posts above also. The baby was born in the night, when I woke up in the morning, my husand told me about it, then…memorial… then..funeral…later. there was no baby lying around for days…what the fuck?

  535. Myself says:

    Oh and my first instinct would be to call 911 in the hopes they could help my child and while they were on the one, I’d be preforming CPR on my baby in hopes they would live.

  536. Messy says:

    ^ Me too

  537. werd says:

    okay but seriously… a presumably deceased baby staying in the home for any more than the time it takes b/t the call to 911 and the time the paramedics show up – huh? How? WHY?!

  538. Myself says:

    that should say “and while they were on the way” not on the one, ugh

  539. organicmomma says:

    I am asking that you stop talking about a child no matter what you think about it. Say what you want about me, i don’t care. What i know is what i know. I wasn’t at their home for it all. Only for the memorial, which was not the funeral. Also, who’s to say that everybody’s baby that passes goes through the same things hospital/autopsy wise. How the fuck would you know, so, if you don’t, then shut up about it, or prove it. So, get off the baby already. You are trying everything you can to make me look bad. Fine, say what you want, but leave the baby out of it.

  540. werd says:

    I mean really OM… read this over. It is just straight up BIZARRE… can you blame anyone for questioning it?

    It doesn’t really help your cause in anyone believing you, now that you brought out the “fat bitches” card and the “go take care of your kids” card.

  541. Myself says:

    You brought the baby into missy, not us.

    If you didn’t want the baby brought into it, they you should have thought about that before lying about them.

    And, it is STANDARD to HAVE to have a MEDICAL examiner do an AUTOPSY when a child is born living and then becomes deceased soon after.

    If they didn’t call 911 immediately they would be under suspicion in the death of their child, ALSO common sense. The only person who doesn’t call is a guilty one. And the paramedics leave with the baby, they do NOT just leave the baby there.

  542. Messy says:

    Who’s to say? The law you moron!
    Oh,. and how the fuck would I know? First hand experience you cunt.
    I am not talking ABOUT the baby, I am talking about you, your lies, your stupidity. It is easy to say, “stop talking about the baby” to get people to not see your lies, but it is not about the baby at all; it is about you.

  543. werd says:

    wow. I am just speechless. You are ALL OVER the place, sister. Like… take a Xanax, take a nap, and then come back. Really. You bring stuff up, and then hand slap all over the place when anyone other than you talks about it, aka QUESTIONS you on things that don’t make sense.

    Seriously… Xanax. Nap.

  544. werd says:

    and holy crap, if anyone has any idea who this poor mom is/moms are who lost these babies, PLEASE contact them and let them know how this cuckoo for cocoa puffs lady is spreading their lives all over the internet. That is straight FUCKED UP and if it were me, I would definitely want to know. WOW. I think *I* need a Xanax. Wow.

  545. ladylili says:

    543 – That’s what I’m saying! It’s just plain strange to not call 911 when you find out your baby isn’t breathing!

  546. Messy says:

    Werd, I would want to know too! If someone had the balls to do something like that after my baby died (she even said they were “happy”), I would have her ass…

  547. organicmomma says:

    i’m not spreading their lives. I’m trying to say where the diapers went. that’s how it started in the first place, and i asked for prayers for my friends.

  548. Messy says:

    You asked for prayers for people who had a baby that was alive, never called 911, then co-slept immediately after passing the placenta and smothered the baby, then were HAPPY? You are a loon. You make THEM sound like murdering psychopaths.
    The mama should know. You are psychotic. I would be beyond pissed if I were her.

  549. organicmomma says:

    Bringing them here and seeing this, will make it worse for them, I am not the only one here talking about it, but i am the only one trying to ask you to stop. I am explaining what i did with a bunch of diapers.

  550. Myself says:

    and they will see that you are the one who brought it up, who linked to their FB. And they will want to rip you a new one.

  551. organicmomma says:

    I just explained that I don’t know what happened with 911, I wasn’t there. I didn’t say anything bad about them. You are twisting my words. Please stop. Don’t get into my lives or theirs either. I said what I did with the diapers, i know the truth. Story over. Just stop fucking with my life please.

  552. Messy says:

    I have buried a child. Yup, it is sad/hard. But I was not made of glass…
    You don’t want the mom to know because you are caught in a few lies. You begged, you lied, you need help. The mama needs to know what YOU did.

  553. organicmomma says:

    That’s not it. She knows she has the diapers. I don’t want her feelings hurt, I’m sure she is feeling awful already, kwim? It’s really awful. I’m asking that it stop.

  554. zamgrawrz says:

    They either A.) didn’t call 911 when their child was found not breathing, which seems very very odd and honestly, a little suspect, or B.) did call 911, in which case they wouldn’t have had the baby there the next day. Or C.) you’re just lying.

  555. zamgrawrz says:

    And to Messy and everyone else on here that has lost a child, *hugs.* I know that doesn’t make it better, but still. I hope I never have to feel that pain ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

  556. organicmomma says:

    It is truly her feelings I am worried about. This is all over diapers, it’s so stupid. They are items your child pees and poops in. it doesn’t need to be dragged so far and keep going by hurting others besides me. I’m hurt, ok. so, stop it there, instead of trying to hurt others too. Say what you want about me, say whatever over and over, but leave my friends alone and don’t hurt them to get to me.

  557. Redhead says:

    I know who both the mothers are.
    I am very close to contacting them.

    Not because I THINK it will help them feel better, but because they have some loony person running about with their lives, smearing their sad stories all over the ‘net. Good intentions or not on your behalf, OM- you’ve ran YOUR mouth, posted personal info on them (enough for it to be quite easy for me to find obituary notices and more) and now are trying to claw your way out of a hole you had no business digging.

    Not only have you posted private info on your “friends”, you also blasted CDMP’s full name and suggested she had a “criminal record”, along with dragging a no-longer-relevant private adoption issue of mine out here on the blog. There has been no reason for any of your actions except complete lack of thought or care on how your actions affect anyone else.
    It is just entirely selfish behavior of yours, and that goes right along with you begging for freebies.

  558. imasupernova says:

    I am feeling a bit confused. Didn’t OM have 2 friends whose babies passed away?

  559. Myself says:

    Redhead – I hate to say it, but please inform them. Messy has said she would want to know if someone was doing this to her, so I’d go ahead.

  560. organicmomma says:

    This is going way too far. What do you want from me for it to end, huh? I’ve done everything I can to explain. Please leave my friends alone, please. I’ve said it over and over again, say what you want about me, i won’t even post anymore, but don’t bring my friends anymore into it. please.

  561. Messy says:

    #560 Supposedly. But we are talking about one friend in particular discussed in one thread.
    In that thread she also mentioned her sister losing twins.
    So, two friends and a sister lost babies very recently… Or did they?

  562. organicmomma says:

    So, tell me what it is you want from me for this to end. For you to leave me and my friends alone?

  563. organicmomma says:

    My sister has an almost 2 year old now. She lost babies over 3 years ago.

  564. Messy says:

    #561 Absolutely, I would want to know. Not to mention OM put her FB page and everything on here. OM is quite unbalanced IMO.
    Losing a baby does not make it to where people should be able to use you, your loss, your situation, your information, to scam people and lie to them (even if it is for nothing more than sympathy).
    OM blasted that she had a lot going on and how these horrible things were excuses for things in HER life. I would be PISSED that someone used my loss as an excuse for their twatwafflery. Just sayin’.
    Also, I think scammer are more likely to use someone else’s loss for their own gain because we (as caring mamas) do not want to bring another mama’s attention to the fact that her life is being used by a loon. OM is proving that true more and more…

  565. Redhead says:

    Isn’t that what guilty people do? Pleadings and offers of money or whatever to get the knowing party to keep from spilling the beans?

    So that would kinda make us blackmailers, OM. That’s something I cannot abide- being involved in illegal activity. Maybe you enjoy it, though.

  566. Myself says:

    And anyone can feel free to tell me if I’m being a bitch. I’m having the cycle from hell and would love to rip someone’s head off.

  567. amessymama says:

    I do not think we should contact anybody. I just found the obit and I feel horrible that I even brought it up.

    I imagine the parents are in and out of despair at any given time and I would hate for anything else painful to be brought to their attention. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ What point would it serve. The FB link she posted wasn’t even about the the second infant, so they certainly don’t need to be contacted.

    The only reason the second baby is being talked about is because I questioned whether it was true or not. I feel absolutely horrible right now. And somewhat disgusted with myself.

  568. Messy says:

    Umm… OM, here are your words:
    “Also, this is the second close friend of mine to lose a child in the last month. It’s heartbreaking. I don’t do well with deaths, I’ve been afraid of it my whole life. My sister also lost twins.”
    You don’t say months ago your sister lost twins… You specifically make it sound as though it was in the last month as well. Could be a grammar fail or could be you are a lying twat.

  569. Myself says:

    569 – You would rather them have a back stabber as a friend and not know about it? SERIOUSLY?

    I’d rather know and get rid of said “friend”

  570. Messy says:

    #569 There are times I have felt bad and disgusted with myself, but in this case I am too busy feeling that way for OM.
    OM will probably get her wish. Out of reasons like you mention, people won’t tell the mama that she is being spread all over the interwebz for OM’s begging delight. But if it were *ME*, I would be sooo pissed.

  571. organicmomma says:

    It says This is the second close friend of mine to lose a child in the last month….Next i say my SISTER, not my friend, my sister also lost twins. Call me names, do what you want, but leave my friends alone.

  572. Myself says:

    You witch, they aren’t your fucking friends. They are tools you are using in your excuses and your lies.


    Get a life, suck it up and tell them yourself and save us the trouble.

  573. organicmomma says:

    Maybe you should all read 569. At least have some compassion for what they are going through and how this would make it worse.

  574. Myself says:

    Maybe you should shut the hell up.

  575. organicmomma says:

    fine, I will. But leave them alone. Don’t hurt them more to hurt me.

  576. organicmomma says:

    571-You already said she wasn’t my friend and that i was making it up, so, what would it prove. I’m asking that you just leave them alone.

  577. Redhead says:

    You’re missing the point OM. By informing them of your actions, it isn’t to hurt you, it is to help them.

  578. Myself says:

    You can try to twist my words all you want it won’t work.

    She may believe you to be her friend but you are anything but.

    And you better back off, NOW.

  579. amessymama says:

    I do think the link to FB as an excuse for her bad transactions was pathetic. But, I certainly don’t think the grieving parents needs to be contacted by a bunch of random strangers to inflict more pain on them. If you feel it’s something that just has to be done and it would serve some wonderful purpose, then obviously do what you feel needs to be done. But at least give it a little more time. Wait until their grief isn’t so raw.

    The second infant though, was only brought up @ CDN because she asked for prayers when it happened. Plenty of people have done that.

    I brought it up here. She didn’t.

  580. shabbychic says:

    Did OM not say like 100 posts ago that she was saying the very last thing she had to say here?

  581. Pork Slapper says:

    OM: I would love it if you could explain the 5 FFS claims that DSDM mentioned above. Is that true? I know you mentioned in a post on here that you’ve had some bad transactions and when someone offered free dipes, you jumped on it. Or, something to that effect. Are you now saying those diapers also went to your friends?

    I would also like to know if you were involved in some of the low-balling you were accused of.

    I think you should own what you did that makes you seem a little shady to people.

    Redhead: Please do not contact the family(ies). This is not something they need to be dealing with now. Completely inappropriate, IMO. Now is not the time for that.


    I have no idea why OM brought CDMP into this, but her real name is posted on her website. OM wasn’t sharing anything new or private. Stupid for her to even go there? Absofuckinglutely.

    I do think the family with the recent loss should be left out of this. It obviously happened, regardless of the details surrounding it. It’s completely inappropriate (beyond inappropriate, really) that OM even linked to their facebook, mentioned their names, etc. I do think the issue should be dropped.

  582. mommygrizzly says:

    I have been lurking through all of this mess and really am to the point that I cant keep my mouth shut any longer.

    I wonder how disgusted OMs husband would be if he were aware of all of this BS. I mean, I don’t even know her and I’m sick to my stomach with all of the stupidity that is just spewing from her direction. She is literally stealing the grief from this poor family, lying about them at every turn to benefit herself and still has the balls to call herself their friend?

    I wish I had friends like OM. :gag: :gag: ๐Ÿ™„ :gag:

  583. Redhead says:

    Pork Slapper: Several of us have asked her to explain the things you just mentioned.

    All OM comes back with is crazed sentences and personal jabs.

  584. organicmomma says:

    I will explain, yes. I received 3 ffs items. I believe I got two medium FRB and one package of two pink bg. I have screenshots of emails telling my friend that i had gotten them for her and that when they got here, I would let her know. Also, a second email thanking me for them. The other diapers after the loss that came…there was 1 more package(medium frb). It all went to HBACimg on DS(In a medium frb). I have none of the ffs diapers here except for some liners from gigi, that was all I kept.

    If I did lowball someone, I’m not really sure about it and don’t remember and completely appologize if that is something i’ve done and it was awful. I do however, if i’m buying a lot or more than one thing from someone, ask for some money off or for them to combine shipping. I do not remember asking for ffs items unless they were offered that way..If I did, my mistake, but I don’t remember straight up saying…”Hey can you send me some ffs diapers?” Yes, I did jump on them though when offered, mostly i saw them offered here. I wanted her to have a big gift of diapers seeing as it was her first child and first time cding that I could not afford to just buy for her. I had given her a lot of my stash, but it wasn’t enough for her to cd full time. The only ffs item I kept here were some liners.

  585. Sissy Hankshaw says:

    I really hope no one actually contacts those poor mamas about this. I really don’t think they need or would want to hear about this crap. This is a very small and petty situation compared to what they are dealing with. I don’t agree with the things Stacie has said or done either but I think they are being blown waay out of proportion. Flame me all you want. That is what I think.

  586. Redhead says:

    Explain asking me for free clothes and hinting you wanted the dress for “some quarters”?

  587. Myself says:

    586 – Did you not see where Messy, who HAS lost a child, is saying that she WOULD want to know?

  588. Redhead says:

    (especially since your FSOT listing says you have tons of childrens clothing [in the exact sizes I had] for trades)

  589. organicmomma says:

    Or if something says make an offer, I do…I posted the screenshots here of where the ffs diapers went, but still no one believed me. I had erased the personal info, and should have checked before posting bc sometimes photobucket edits take a little bit to show up, i’ve noticed it with rotating pics and stuff. I have tried to explain myself and also shown proof.

  590. organicmomma says:

    You offered to give me a discount on that dress(said your dh would be mad because you paid a lot for it) redhead and i said I would start saving for it. Implying isn’t me saying it. I said i would save for it.

  591. Redhead says:

    Also explain saying you only had “$10 and some change” for my wool covers FS, yet bought expensive yarn right after that..?

    And you also whined about how it would be sold before you could ever scrounge up enough change to buy it. Come on, OM.
    You weren’t just innocently admiring something.

  592. organicmomma says:

    I didn’t know you had clothes for trade Redhead. You said you were going through things and were going to send me a box, I asked you what you’d like in return for it.

  593. organicmomma says:

    If I said I was saving my quarters for it, then that is what I meant. We save our quarters here and then we spend it on something fun, like a dells trip, or shopping, or perhaps a dress for my vow renewal.

  594. organicmomma says:

    I can justify spending money on yarn because I crochet it and sell it in my store.

  595. Sissy Hankshaw says:

    I’ve lost two myself. I still think it’s a bad idea to contact them. I’m not arguing about it. You ladies do what you feel is best, I’m not here to judge. I gave my honest opinion but that is just how I would feel about it.

  596. looking and lurking says:

    OFFS I’m the drama mama.

  597. organicmomma says:

    Yarn is something I need to keep my store running, wool covers are not. It’s need vs want. I had probably sold something after that and chose the yarn instead of the covers…

  598. Redhead says:

    You aren’t even reading what I wrote correctly.
    I never said I had clothes for trade, I said YOU did in YOUR FSOT thread.

    You asked me for girls clothing and womens tank tops when you noticed a post on my FB saying I was cleaning out closets. I had made no mention that I was giving anything away, you came in and asked.
    I was willing to, after you asked, yes. But still, you’re the one jumping into situations trying to get freebies and whining about lack of funds or whatever.

    You can buy whatever you want with your money, but your intentions/lies were to bump my price down on my wool. THAT is the issue here.

  599. organicmomma says:

    You asked me how much i had in my pp and I told you. Then I said I would save for them. I never asked you to give them to me for 10 dollars and change. I told you that is what I had when you asked me. Then, I decided to buy yarn instead of covers. Other’s also asked you what you were getting rid of on fb when you said that, I wasn’t the only one. If I make money into my pp, I spend it. We do have foodstamps and badgercare here. If you want pics of my cards with the numbers erased, I’d be happy to give them to you. I said I needed tank tops and dresses when you posted that, and I do. The ones I have are old. I offered to go through my house and send you something in return, asked you what you need, said we could trade and you told me not to worry about it.

  600. Aj says:

    Can someone clear something up for me?

    Did OM send FFS diapers to a mother who lost her infant?

    If this is true, and please tell me if I’m being completely insensitive; but what in the world would that person need or want with diapers?

    Or is this yet another person she is talking about sending free diapers to?

  601. organicmomma says:

    See post 592 where you said…Also explain saying you only had โ€œ$10 and some changeโ€ for my wool covers FS, yet bought expensive yarn right after that..?

    And you also whined about how it would be sold before you could ever scrounge up enough change to buy it

    I didn’t ask for them for that. I said I would save for them, or scrounge up enough change or whatever. I then probably sold something and chose the yarn instead. I said I liked them, you asked how much I had and I told you.

  602. Redhead says:

    OM- get your facts right before quoting me. There are 2 circumstances I am mentioning in 592.

    Actually, just never mind. It is pointless trying to discuss something logical with you.

  603. Redhead says:

    Yes Aj. But here’s the deal. She said she dropped a bag full of diapers on their doorstep after the baby had passed. She also said she mailed some to HBACing, and she said she gave diapers to the mama before the baby died.

    None of it makes sense.

  604. organicmomma says:

    601-I did not mail the diapers, she lives locally. I gave her the diapers before she had the baby and have a screenshot of her saying thanks for the diapers, now i just need a baby to put them on. THEN when she didn’t need them anymore, the last package came after the loss, I sent them to HBACimg on DS. Along with some wool from my store.

  605. organicmomma says:

    Oh, I see redhead, my mistake, sorry. Well, I explained the yarn and wool covers one. I believe I also explained about the dress. Yes, I didn’t want it to sell before I made enough money to buy it, because it is the exact dress i’d want for my vow renewal. But, I did say I would save for it. I never asked for it to be given to me, or even for a discount I believe. You said it had been sitting a while and lots of people had it as their favorite, but you didn’t think it would sell before i saved enough for it.

  606. organicmomma says:

    Where did i say i gave her diapers after the baby passed? That doesn’t make any sense. I gave HBACimg the diapers after the other mama’s baby passed. If i did write that and it came off that way, i appologize, I was wrong and that’s not what I meant. This is all i see about the big bag of diapers:

    I wanted her to have a big gift of diapers seeing as it was her first child and first time cding that I could not afford to just buy for her.

  607. organicmomma says:

    I’ve also said I have screenshots, which I know at least redhead saw of her saying. Thank you for the diapers, now i just need a baby to put them on. They were given to her before the baby. I forwarded(without being asked) to H2BAM my PM’s between HBACimg and me showing her what i did with the rest of the ffs diapers.

  608. Redhead says:


  609. organicmomma says:

    I also believe in the thread on CDN, it says: I am afraid she will try to give back the diapers Gigi gave me. I have a fb message from the local mama telling me that if i knew anyone in need of them to let them use them for a while, but i told her it would be best for her to keep them, and that i would really like it if she did. I’d be happy to give more screenshots, again.

  610. organicmomma says:

    That does not say that i gave the diapers to her AFTER she lost her baby…

    I didnโ€™t sell the diapersโ€ฆask meghann..i gave them away ffs. Any other diapers i got went to the other mama that lost her baby FOR FREE! i left her a huge bag at her door. I have had two friends that lost a baby in the last couple monthesโ€ฆok?!

    Where here does it say I gave them to her after she lost her baby? It just says exactly what it says. I gave them to the other mama that lost her baby. I left her a huge bag at her door. Meerly explaining that i gave them to her. There is no timeline in there saying when. Again i have screenshots, and i know you saw it.

  611. BffMama says:

    I just can’t stop reading this today!

  612. Pork Slapper says:

    586 – I actually agree.

  613. imasupernova says:

    OM – Are you addicted to FFS…? ๐Ÿ˜‰

  614. organicmomma says:

    Well, if anyone does they have already said they would do it, so it would be known who it was.

    So, with everything i’ve said. If anyone would like any screenshots as proof you know where to find me and can message me.

    I would also like to send my sincerest appologies for the fat comment and the go watch your kids. i admit it was waay out of line. Like i said before, when i get upset, i tend to run my mouth. I was upset of what I was being accused of and knew I didn’t do it. I’m sorry you find me annoying, but i hope i have done what I needed to do to prove i did not scam anyone or sell ffs dipes, and also why I jumped on them so quickly. So, please, take my appologies. I was in the wrong for what I said to you, and honestly felt stupid after i said it. I’m very sorry.

  615. organicmomma says:

    Yes, that is my secret addiction. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  616. magpiedpiper says:

    I think it is at the very least…odd that someone would feel a friend was close enough to beg FFS dipes for them and post their tragic story on a message board(s), yet not close enough to hear any details about their child’s birth/death firsthand or from a source closer than their dh’s coworker. However, I also think this whole thing is getting stale and really needs the beating a dead horse smiley.

  617. zamgrawrz says:

    Totally and completely off topic but why do I feel so guilty about casting on another project when I haven’t finished the one I’m working on? People do it all the time….and I really want to knit my lollyscraps up….but I can’t bring myself to do it OR finish my current project.

    I think I have issues.

  618. imasupernova says:

    #617 The term “friend” is used verrrry loosely these days with facebook around.

    Are we done beating OM now…?

    I hope you have learned from all of this OM and I hope that Redhead (TF) backs off slowly…sometime…soon…

  619. sissy hankshaw says:

    619 lol right. Anyone got a a gun, just shoot her already and get it over with. That was painful to watch.

    But watch it we did. I’m glad I’m good at transactions and don’t make anything because holy shit I wouldn’t want to piss off any of you ladies.

  620. werd says:

    coming in late as usual, but I totally shouldn’t have suggested contacting the mamas. I don’t know what I was thinking… I have some shit going on here and I think it was clouding my judgement. Sorry for that!

  621. Redhead says:

    I’ll say this as my final comment on the OM situation.
    Even with OM’s explanations and excuses, I still see holes in the story.

    And yes, I AM ticked off because I experienced a lot of this firsthand from OM when she was on my FB.
    I have no issues with people who need items, I send out a lot of freebies (sometimes with me paying shipping, as well). But I don’t appreciate being used to gain free stuff, and seeing others used (or someone attempting to use them) bothers me just as much.
    And that is exactly how I felt in this situation, whether I mailed her package or not.

  622. Incognizable says:

    I agree that the mamas should NOT be contacted. I’m glad that at least OM shit her panties or at least skid them at the “thought” that someone could potentially tell them.

    Read the panic and desperation in which she “pleads” to leave her friends alone and out of this. Which leads me to believe that she completely used thier tragedies for her own fucking benefit, which is disgusting and sick. Period!

    DO not B/S/T or FFS with her.

  623. MotherMoonPads says:

    I don’t know if this matters or not, but take it FWIW.

    C didn’t sell the purple doll used in the photos for the CDN auction. She sent it to me as a bonus for a YYMN spot she did for me.

  624. Kirsty says:

    This is absolutely horrifying power-tripping at its worst. My heart is wrenched that grown women would want to drag a bereaved mother into this to hurt and intimidate someone else. Shameful.

    And let’s get honest here, low-balling is cheap as hell but hardly the most immoral thing in the world. Don’t like an offer? Pass and walk away- She’s not stalking anyone’s house and stealing it off the clothesline.

    OM- walk away. You’re doing yourself no favour. Pick yourself up, walk out and try get some dignity.

    588- WTF? Is she the authority on things like this?

  625. MotherMoonPads says:

    Hmm. Guess I should have finished skimming through the thread before responding and seeing we’re on a different subject now ๐Ÿ™‚

  626. imasupernova says:

    I mean really…who lites a bottle rocket out of their a$$…?

    That was the raddest thing Ive seen in a long time…


  627. Amygamie says:

    O geez :/ lol I was gone for a little bit and I missed a 500+ post YAGE marathon. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ I only skimmed through it so far but some of the highlights I read were quiet interesting I might have to come back later and catch up. ๐Ÿ™‚

  628. smartassmama says:

    Lookie there. The mom of the 5mo with the BFing opinions edited her post. Imagine that.

  629. Myself says:

    625 – No she isn’t the authority. But, I know for myself that if someone was exploiting my child’s death, or using it to explain their behavior away that I would want to know. And Messy came forth as wanting to know as well.

    At minimum I would never want the person around me again.

    You would rather they think she is their friend and keep her around them. Yeah, not me.

  630. sissy hankshaw says:

    630 I know where your coming from but it seemed as though you meant because messy has had a loss her opinion was the final answer. A few of us have had losses and none of our opinions are more important than the other. I think it’s been established that her story may have a few holes in it but it has not been proven that without a doubt she was using these mama’s stories for free diapers. Without 100 percent proof it would be foolish and insensitive imo to get these mama’s involved. Even if there was proof I’m still not sure it would be worth putting more stress on them. OM has certainly been punished for begging for diapers, her reputation has certainly taken a blow and it’s obvious she took all this grief pretty hard.

    I really don’t get the feeling she is all that close with these mama’s anyway.

  631. sissy hankshaw says:

    I regretted that comment as soon as i sent it, I think the topic is beyond dead. On to the next topic right? where’s the drama?

  632. noname says:

    630 – I am guessing they are not her “close friends” but just acquaintances or people she knows *of*. They may know her but probably not well. They may or may not be interested to know that someone they barely know is spreading half-true stories about their tragedies on the internet. But I doubt that she is close enough to them for it to be really crucial info they need to know.

  633. Sala says:

    I’ve lost a child. I know I would not want to have known while the grief was still fresh. That would kill a friendship deader than a stinking carcass in a locked car under the Arizona July sun and cause waaaaaay more drama. It would also be very very painful for the grieving mom/couple.

    It’s debatable in my mind whether OM tried to use the sympathy card on purpose or if she was truly just trying to be nice to her friends. I know I sometimes look at things and think, well, I can’t use that but I know soandso could. I’ve bought things online for my friends. It’s conceivable that if I stalked the FFS area I might stalk stuff for friends, too. It’s conceivable that OM shares too much of herself and of her friends’ lives. I’m still not convinced that OM has done anything very wrong. No one is out any money. She’s not profitted off of her friends’ sadness.

    Yeah, she doesn’t have the story straight but maybe she just isn’t privy to all the details – maybe she heard the story wrong from a friend. While we were in the hospital, we were allowed to keep our baby as long as we wanted (within reason) before we had to give her up to be taken to the morgue. It was over 12 hours before we could persuade ourselves to give the baby to the staff (who never asked or insisted, BTW). Maybe that’s morbid to you, I don’t care, it’s what we needed. Perhaps y’all would have been calling 911, maybe not – everyone doesn’t think very clearly when they are fresh in their grief and horror.

    BUT. It reaaaaaaaally doesn’t matter. Really. No harm No foul. Really. Maybe some of you feel taken advantage of – maybe OM just likes to make a deal. Maybe she prefers to save her money for yarn purchases than clothing. Not our business. Maybe it all doesn’t line up for you, what does it really matter?

    Some of y’all are being rather stalkerish – you can’t decree what people choose to spend their money on. Refuse to sell to someone you think either is giving you a line or is a liar, fine. Just because their business doesn’t have any clients right now doesn’t mean she can’t spend any money, it does mean she can chose to spend what spending money she has as she wishes. But flagellating someone over their foibles or inconsistancies over and over and over and over and over just seems mean and wrong when no one has been harmed and no one has gotten away with much of anything.

    My 0.02

  634. Redhead says:

    Just for clarification:
    I _have_ said OM can spend her money on what she wants. I don’t care if she buys my stuff or not. But if anyone would like to keep a good reputation- be honest, and don’t guilt someone into bumping their price down with drama and/or whining.

    As far as the rest-
    Hopefully, she will learn to keep her mouth shut and not share private details that she is unsure of.

    And now I am off to plant my garden.

  635. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    Here’s an off-topic question for you: Anyone ever have issues with ScaryMerry on Etsy? I have ogled her stuff for months, heard nothing but raves for her, and when I had some play money in early June, I splurged and placed an order on her Etsy. That was over three weeks ago, and I’ve neither heard nor received anything. I sent a message yesterday, and have still not heard back. I know it was just a holiday weekend and she may be away, so the 24 hours without return message doesn’t really bother me, but what DOES is that while her feedback says 100%, she has received one negative and five neutrals in the last month or so, for very slow shipping, etc. Slow, okay, but the longest anyone mentioned waiting was 2 weeks. I’ve been waiting over three weeks now. Yes, her items are custom-made, but her own policies say that they ship in seven days or less. Any input or experiences with her?

  636. CJ says:


    I googled scarymerry and the first hit is her store, with a blurb saying that she has had issues with pneumonia on and off for 2 months. When I click the link, that blurb is gone but it does still show in the cached version. Hopefully it is just a delay due to her being ill.

  637. Myself says:

    Deviate – how can her feedback be 100% with one negative?

    I do know she is currently doing a CC coop.

  638. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    637- Thanks for letting me know. I definitely cannot find anything about a delay due to health issues on her store now.

    638- That’s what I was wondering. When some one has 100%, I usually don’t check out FB, but I just checked hers today and saw that.
    I know it’s a great opportunity for many WAHMs and buyers to get in on co-ops, as well as the fact that it can slow things down, but if you’re doing a co-op that keeps you from your base store, why not put a pause on your store for the co-op, or at least post that there will be delays due to the co-op? I’ve seen a lot of WAHMs get caught in that trap. What’s further frustrating is that she’s having a big sale that is being advertised, which is why I decided to take the plunge when I purchased in June. Did I need a bunch of new stitch markers? No, not really, but they’re cute, and well, I can’t pass a sale. ๐Ÿ˜‰ Why have a sale if you’re hands are already full with a co-op, and you’ve been delayed due to illness? :shrugs:

  639. Redhead says:

    Man, she has cute stuff.. but I hate waiting forever for something!

  640. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    640- Her stuff is TDF, and I know multiple people who have ordered from her and loved the stuff. I agree, I hate waiting, but I’ll definitely wait if it’s worth it AND the seller tells you up-front how long it will be. Three weeks and not a peep when the store front says seven days or less is a bit frustrating.

  641. CJ says:

    Here is the info from the cached version:



    And from the current store:


    I’M READY!!! ๐Ÿ˜€

  642. MotherMoonPads says:

    #638, I have a negative (as a buyer) on Etsy but have 100% feedback. It goes back to 100% after you have 200 positives. Etsy apparently rounds up for feedback/doesn’t use decimals like on eBay

  643. anAKmama says:

    Deviate, I haven’t ordered from her but I’ve ogled a lot. I did splurge on some stuff from the WeeOnes Etsy store for my birthday and she was awesome and shipped fast and they are so freaking cute and tiny!

  644. zamgrawrz says:

    I’m getting closed jump rings from I’m a cheap ass and they’re very basic, but pretty. Plus he’s gotten back to me within an hour every time I email him, thats awesome imo. ๐Ÿ™‚ I might actually order some more later to let my girls make stitch markers to sell for their summer camp next year. I can’t come up with anything else ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

    MMP-I wanna order some cloth from you when I get some moola, do you do custom orders too or just the surprise fabric ones? I probably shouldn’t care but I want some cutesy fabrics. lol

  645. coffeehoar says:

    Deviate, I got something for a secret santa at Christmas from ScaryMerry, and she shipped uber fast, even for the season. Hopefully she answers your email soon.

  646. Redhead says:

    MMP’s pads are GREAT! I bought some from HC in the fall and I โ™ฅ them.

  647. werd says:

    woah how did you do the heart?! โค ?

  648. werd says:

    gah! tell me your secret!!

  649. Myself says:


  650. Myself says:

    no idea but you can copy and paste it, lol

  651. zamgrawrz says:


  652. Toaster says:

    The heart is the < symbol and then a 3 after it. I goof off with friends and tell them I less than 3 you!

  653. Toaster says:

    My bad, I didn’t see that someone tried it. hmmm โค

  654. Sissy Hankshaw says:

    Ok, I’m subscribing to this lol. Scrolling through it on an iPhone Is killing me. I keep getting funny looks from dh when I do it, it takes like 5 minutes.

  655. MotherMoonPads says:

    #645-I don’t do a ton of customs where you can pick the fabric, but if you PM me I’m sure we can work something out ๐Ÿ™‚ (Right now I have some oogas & d&G prints from making DD fitteds too). I do have over 100 pads in stock at and have 25% off through this Subday (place your order, wait for a corrected invoice OR feel free to pay & I’ll promptly refund the 25% ๐Ÿ™‚ )

    Thanks #647 โ™ฅ ๐Ÿ™‚

    /shameless self promotion/spam ๐Ÿ™‚

  656. smartassmama says:

    somewhat O/T, but does anyone know the approx. dimensions of an Always super-huge fatgirl heavyflow with wings? It’s been forever since I’ve had an AF, and even longer since I bought disposable pads. I guess I should just buy your PP pads, that way I know for sure they’ll be long enough. I just have bad luck with accidents in bed or in public (during AF, not peepee).

  657. smartassmama says:

    Yeah, forget 656. Whenever DH gets paid again, I’ll be shopping for the 10 or 12 inch. Looks like it’d do the trick! zthanks for the link ๐Ÿ˜€

  658. Redhead says:


    hit “alt”, and then “3” on your keypad on the right, let go at the same time โ™ฅ.

  659. Flat Stainley says:


  660. Flat Stainley says:

    Haha I suck!

  661. Flat Stainley says:

    Okay, that really wasn’t difficult. On the right. Gotcha ๐Ÿ™‚

  662. Just Peachy says:


  663. smartassmama says:

    โ˜บยงโ™ฅโ™ฆโ™ฃโ™ โ€ขโ—˜โ—‹

    Well. Lookie there.

    And still no cent symbol. lol

  664. Redhead says:

    Y’all are such good little “โ™ฅ” students!

  665. erinbeth says:

    Booooo! I can’t type a heart on my laptop…no #s to the right ):

  666. CJ says:

    No number pad here either. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

  667. Sala says:

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    That’s all I got.

  668. Flat Stainley says:

    Sala, this is hearts & flowers class, not hieroglyphics class.

  669. Flat Stainley says:

    Seriously, I’m impressed.

  670. Sissy Hankshaw says:

    ๎€ข checking on wether my emoticons work here. Too lazy to get on my computer, still on my phone.

  671. Flat Stainley says:

    That alt key is an interesting one. It makes my last sentence come up in the memo field, but it’s random, it doesn’t happen with every number or consistantly. Redhead are you hacking us? ๐Ÿ˜‰

  672. sissy hankshaw says:

    nope, guess not. I’m jealous of the skill’s here, my computer is a laptop too:-(

  673. nini02 says:

    I can do it on my laptop, I just have to use the function button, plus the alt/number combo โ™ฅ My L key is also a 3.

  674. nini02 says:

    โ˜บโ˜ปโ™ฅโ™ฃโ™ โ—˜โ—‹

    Those are the ones I can do on my laptop.

  675. Flat Stainley says:

    So I wonder if this would work to find out what the last person on te hcomputer typed before me. Hmmmm :Rubs hands together while glancing from side to side: Mwahahahaha!

  676. smartassmama says:

    675 – I am now lost. How would that work, because that would be fun.


  677. Flat Stainley says:

    Well, let’s say my secretive daughter logs out of her account. I log on, use Alt 4 from the number pad on the right until the last few things she typed show up in the google search bar. I read, then repeat to see the thing before that which she also typed. Spying, I know, but maybe I could have another backup to see if DH is *really* not looking at internet porn anymore or if he’s just giving me a line to keep me from getting upset.

  678. Flat Stainley says:

    Well, let’s say my secretive daughter logs out of her account. I log on, use Alt 4 from the number pad on the right until the last few things she typed show up in the google search bar. I read, then repeat to see the thing before that which she also typed. Spying, I know, but maybe I could have another backup to see if DH is *really* not looking at internet porn anymore or if he’s just giving me a line to keep me from getting upset.

    See, I just used those buttons again and I didn’t have to retype the message from post 677. Weird. Like a keyboard move for cut & paste? :headscratch:

  679. smartassmama says:

    all I get are diamonds.
    clueless couch here.


  680. sissy hankshaw says:

    I can’t get it to work. I have linux though, that probably makes a big difference in keyboard function.

  681. Sneaky says:

    โ˜บโ˜ปโ™ฅโ™ฆโ™ฃโ™ โ€ขโ—˜โ—‹

  682. Aj says:

    Wow, holy problems:
    You think it’s going to stop, but no, it just get worse & worse. Like watching a car crash in slow motion.

  683. iken says:

    Help a ๏ฃฟ gal out!

  684. Sala says:

    Poor girl. She needs help. and now she’s gonna have two in less than 18 months? Wow, poor, poor girl. That relationship is doomed unless she can just let go.

  685. iken says:

    Never mind, I figure it out. โ™ฅโ˜€โ˜โ˜‚โ˜ โ™ก

  686. Redhead says:

    She needs counseling for herself. Maybe the DH had problems before (I kinda skimmed the post).. but it seemed to me that she is obsessed with the past and that is ruining their relationship.

  687. Just Peachy says:

    Poor girl. I bet that felt good to get off her chest though. Maybe now she can either make peace with it or move on in her life and drop the dumb ass hubby.

  688. monkey says:


    I always hate to read posts like that. I don’t think I could stay with some I didn’t trust or felt insecure about my relationship with.

    DH and I were talking about this because he went out with two friends the other night, both guys. One friend is single, one married. They barely ever get to see each other (one lives in another city). So I sent DH off to party, I said, “If you’re not going to be home by 1am call and let me know.” and that was it. DH said the married friend’s wife called 6 times before it was even 10pm wanting to know where they were, who they were with and if there were girls around (I should add this is a guy who would NEVER cheat, I’ve known him 4 years, he adores his wife, but her dad cheated on her mother so…). DH was like, “She’s giving us way too much credit. We’re old. We were sitting in a restaurant watching a world cup game… we weren’t even drinking!”

    I guess I just couldn’t be married to someone I didn’t trust implicitly and know fully that they loved me. Sad, sad situation.

  689. Rocket says:

    Wow, this has kept me entertained during naptimes all day.

    Anyone want some watermelon? I’ve got a huge one that someone brought over and I only ate like a 1/3.

  690. monkey says:


    I can haz watermelon?

  691. sissy hankshaw says:

    692 yes please!

  692. monkey says:

    Uh, mine should be to 392 as well… I’m confused trying to figure out this whole CC thing.

  693. silvermeadows says:

    OK, I have lurked forever but I finally have to speak out. My BFF was the one who bought the FB from Organicmomma. I looked at them up close and personal and there was no way that they were usable. The PUL was peeling off, it was balling up, you could see the cloth through the PUL and they did not hold pee. My friend knew about the thin fleece and the slightly relaxed elastic. After she PMed OM. OM changed the listing to list the PUL as having problems too! She also tried to say that shipping was $7 when the package said something like $3.95 on it. I know all this because my poor friend cried about it and had to ask me for help because she hates confrontation so much. I had to sit with her while she responded to OM’s PMs and watched her freak out for days. I have pics that my momma friend sent me of the PUL and of the changed listings. If anyone wants to see them, please tell me how to post pictures from an email.

  694. magpie says:

    By CC, are you referring to all the paypal issues they got going on? What a cluster that is! I don’t think she is out to scam anyone, but $3000?? I would have noticed!

  695. zamgrawrz says:

    691-I agree, to some extent. I’m still marrying a guy I can’t 100% trust anymore (ftr, he never actually cheated, but I found out before he could so who knows if he would’ve stopped before that or not.) but I love him and I don’t think he’ll do it again. But, that doesn’t change the fact that while I was 100% trusting before, I’m a little paranoid now. I just check up every once in awhile though and make sure and he knows I do-and doesn’t mind. It keeps me feeling ok and I’m sure as time goes by, I won’t feel so paranoid (this all happened at the end of March/beginning of April so it hasn’t been *that* long).

    On the other hand, I couldn’t imagine staying with him if he had cheated. He came almost as close as he could without doing it-and hurt me immensely due to the things he said to her (it wasn’t all about sex, it was mostly about life-buying a house, getting married, taking our dd and she can be her new mommy because I wouldn’t mind, I already have 4 others….)-but had he gone out there and physically cheated, I couldn’t have stuck around. I wouldn’t be able to let that go.

  696. ladylili says:

    Have you seen the new JAR? It’s about Hill Country Dolls again.
    Looks like she has some issues going on.

    I think you have to be a member to see it though.

  697. amessymama says:

    That JAR was kind of confusing. The buyer said that HCD said she *could* rush the order out in 4 weeks and she *assumed* that it meant she *would*. Why would you assume that? She didn’t say whether or not she specifically asked for it to be done in 4 weeks.

    But I also don’t understand when WAHMs say their customs list is # weeks long but if you need it sooner to let them know. What do they do, bump someone else so they can make the other person’s item? To me, if you need an item sooner that then you need to order sooner.

    But it’s really early and I haven’t had my coffee, so it may make more sense in about 10 minutes. ๐Ÿ˜€

  698. ladylili says:

    HCD did quote her a 4 week turn around. The buyer (from what I understand) didn’t ask for a quicker one because she didn’t need it.

    The buyer sent an e-mail at 3.5 weeks and HCD said she would start the doll next week.

    HCD kept saying she quoted 6 weeks so really she was only a week late (which ins’t okay either) but then “she finally looked back through her emails and said I was right, she copied it down wrong.” So HCD did quote 4 weeks and messed up. Again.

    Did that make sense? I went and re-read the JAR to make sure I was understanding it right.

  699. Sala says:

    Regardless, the dollmaker isn’t following through on her quoted turn-around times and is taking on too much work. Her CS sucks. And she even failed to deliver the agreed-upon items (things were supposed to match and they did not)!

  700. Sala says:

    Also, say what, 697? zamgrawrz, your fiance said what? Wow, I think I could forgive a physical transgression more than my husband telling another woman that they could buy a house and get married, and that she could be MY child’s new mother. Did he honestly say you wouldn’t mind if he took your daughter because you have other children? The hell?

    Wow, you’re a more forgiving woman than I am. I don’t know that I would be strong enough to let that go.

  701. Incognizable says:

    I’m a little disturbed with the doll maker putting concerned customers in front of other equally paying customers that don’t email or complain. That’s just bad biz practice.

    It has the potential to turn into a ripple effect, especially with the bumped down customers 45 day paypal deadline approaching.

    Customs lists are meant to keep order/organization. I assume that she would/should work the list in the order they pay.

  702. Sala says:

    Well, it’s part and parcel in her failure to provide good customer service. And she did it with the last person to file a JAR. She’s stealing from Peter to give to Paul. Bad bad bad CS, bad business practice. Just bad.

  703. ladylili says:

    I’m interested to read her reply to the JAR this time.

  704. Sala says:

    I suspect it will be more excuses.

    Ah, yes, it is, she’s responded.

  705. naturalmamadot says:

    See id be more willing to work through just a one time physical thing but if they said those things, wow, I cant even imagine but it would be a trillion times worse on every level, something I could never forgive. That shows mental involvement not just physical lustful stupidity.

  706. smartassmama says:

    Why is DS acting like a turd right now? ‘Problem Loading Page.’ ugh.

  707. naturalmamadot says:

    ditto #702, I shoudlve refreshed before i posted.
    Im not even gonna throw out on the internet what I would wanna do if I found that sort of emotional/mental affair but itd be way worse than any physical one.

  708. eeek says:

    I agree 702 & 709. For someone to fantasize about taking my child and awarding it to someone else they want to marry-

    Has he done anything to make you really feel like this was some temporary insanity, has he worked really hard to make this up to you? Think how bad you’d feel, if you did that to him… has he felt that bad?

  709. ladylili says:

    708 – when isn’t DS being a turd?

  710. Sala says:

    Exactly, 709 and 710. I’d be much more likely to be able to forgive a physical transgression than an emotional one like that. I mean, yeah, I’d wonder what she had that I didn’t, the physical would shake my confidence and self-esteem. But the emotional affair, that would hurt me to my core and threaten me. I’m not that easily replaced and I’d be devastated to think my partner discounted me and my importance to him and our our kid.

  711. zamgrawrz says:

    Frankly it was almost like temporary insanity >.< It was a girl from high school, they dated when they were 14, then she moved away and they split up. He started talking to her after our DD was born and I was fine with that…and for a few weeks it was just as a friend. Then he says she said some stuff and he said some stuff back and within a week it went completely out of control. Seriously…a week….

    Anyway, I found out when he left his email open, just that she was saying I love you to him and told him it wasn't cool via text (he was at work). He immediately text me back and said he wouldn't talk to her anymore, then called and reiterated it and said he was sorry. It was the next day when his Skype opened on his computer that I saw more. And then it wasn't until more recently that I went back and actually read through their entire Skype convo that I saw the whole *I'll just take the baby with me, she has 4 others, she won't mind* thing. It was in response to her asking what he'd do about the baby.

    Anyway, he hasn't talked to her since and I still don't trust him, but he IS sorry and even he can't really explain wtf he was thinking. But he said when I said that her saying I love you was going too far it was like a snap back to reality and he realized what he would lose. And although this sounds bad, he also never intended on me seeing what all I did….that was all me. He wanted to keep me from being even more hurt, but when he deleted stuff he missed his Skype and the cunt started trying to talk to him again the next day, which opened it and showed all their chat history.

  712. zamgrawrz says:

    What I mean by that was that I went searching for anything I could anyway and I chose to go back and read everything, even though I didn’t have to. I needed to know what all was said. The odd thing was though, I was almost never talked about, it was like I didn’t exist to either of them. But I guess at least I wasn’t called names or something, right? ๐Ÿ˜›

    Oh and I’m not an idiot, I know my fiance was at fault too, but that chic pisses me off. Shes getting divorced because HER husband cheated, she knew we were engaged, she didn’t care…and when I confronted her on it, she still denied that it was anything more than friendship. Riiiiiight. (And this was after he told her I knew everything…)

    Sorry, I went off on a tangent. lol

  713. theinvisible says:

    If my dh ever said or wrote some shit like that I would flip so fantastic that our story would be the season premier episode of SNAPPED. I hope your dh realizes how lucky he is to have you. If it had been me, he wouldn’t have me or his balls.

  714. naturalmamadot says:

    omg get out of my head 715 lmao I didnt really wanna put up and solid threats on here in case some horribly unfortunate future DH of mine decides to pull something like that
    ya know this will be the first thing they pull up at my trial

  715. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    OT from the current, but I’m annoyed. Still no response from ScaryMerry to my request for a DC on my 3-week-old order after three days, and no package. I wrote her again, hoping she chooses to respond this time.
    Myself- You mentioned she was doing a co-op on CC. Any activity from her on there recently?

  716. Myself says:

    There were about 20 sets of stitch markers in the order and on the 5th there was an update that it would another 2 weeks for the order to be finished being made.

  717. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    718- Thanks so much for letting me know. ๐Ÿ™‚ Hopefully I hear something today.

  718. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    Oh joy. Just checked her feedback. Some one who ordered a week before is not receiving any communication either, and now left feedback asking where her stuff is:

  719. Kelolsen says:

    Uh I found written info saying that my DH was going to take our child and that I wouldn’t mind, I’d print it out, go to the police, and get some kind of RO. marry the guy if you want but um.. don’t leave him alone w/ your kids and a car.

  720. sissy hankshaw says:

    zamgrawz if this was early in your relationship I’d just give yourself time. Me and my dh had some drama in the first yrs of our relationship and now we both love and trust each other. I think for some couples love grows and for others it fades. Only time will tell which one will happen. It sounds like he had a few second thoughts because of the finality of your impending marraige. It happens. He may have just been telling her what he know she wanted to hear without completely meaning it. I’d definitely let him know you still don’t completely trust him but that you are trying. He needs to know he can’t be trying to get away with anything like that in the future.

    just wanted to give you hugs since I understand. There is nothing wrong with sticking with him if you really feel he loves you. People can make mistakes in a relationship and go on to never make them again.

  721. zamgrawrz says:

    721-it wasn’t like he was saying he was just going to take her without permission. He said he’d convince me since I already have 4 others and wouldn’t mind. I forgot to add in the convince part.

    Plus his mama likes me. And he’s scared of her. ROFL

    No really, we’re trying to move on and put it behind us. I have a hard time not bringing it up out of spite but I know it doesn’t help anyone, including me….I will continue to be less trusting of him, but I don’t feel like dwelling on it forever is going to help anyone. So as of now, I’m calling it temporary insanity. He really is an awesome guy EXCEPT for this one crazy instance. I mean ffs, he cooks lunch and dinner for me daily, does dishes and laundry, and cleans up the rest of the house whenever I ask. And he’s a sweetie.

  722. zamgrawrz says:

    722-it was. We’ve been together a year and a month now, so it was less than a year together and he’d just had his first a month before that (she was an oops, but he was happy so no biggie, just not a good time financially).

    I don’t think it was cold feet, because one of the first things he asked me was if I still wanted to marry him. He was really sad when I said I don’t know. But I do think (or maybe just hope) that he was just telling her what she wanted to hear. I just can’t see him having any genuine feelings for her when he so instantly cut off contact and I even gave him the opportunity to go, sort of….he didn’t want to and even went so far as to call her slutty. I know thats probably mean but it made me feel better. Haha.

  723. sissy hankshaw says:

    734 I’m sure there is a reason she is an ex! He probably does think she’s slutty.

  724. zamgrawrz says:

    Nah, they split up because she moved away. Again, they were 14. He said though that when he thought about it, he had no clue what she was like now, for all he knew he couldn’t stand her anyway. And I pointed out that while her ex cheated on her, that doesn’t mean it was all one way. I mean really, if she’s that willing to hook up with a guy who she knew would be cheating on his fiance, 3 weeks after leaving her husband….well, it just doesn’t look very good on her part, yk? I dunno, maybe he did have some feelings for her-some sort of that 14 year old *love.* But then reality hit and he realized he doesn’t even know her anymore? I have no idea, whatever. I need to quit analyzing this. lol

  725. sissy hankshaw says:

    I know from first hand experience that the person someone is as a teenage is completely different than when they grow up. I loved someone when I was young and obsessed about them until i was able to interact with them as an adult. I quickly realized that the love wasn’t there anymore and it was just the memories that made me think I missed them. Maybe that’s what happened there. I no longer think about that person much anymore.

  726. zamgrawrz says:

    Yeah, someone on DS had a similar experience that they shared with me, she said she thought she was in love with a previous bf until she left her dh and moved in with him for a few months. Then she realized that she actually couldn’t stand him.

    As much as I knew it would hurt, I told him that if this was the case with him and he really felt like he loved her too, we could split up and he could go be with her. I figured that chances were in my favor that he’d get over it pretty quickly….he’s got a very quirky personality and even I, who can tolerate a LOT, get annoyed with him sometimes. And apparently, according to both him and his cousin, I’m the first and only person he’s gone out with that didn’t either A.) cheat or B.) turn out to be a total twatwaffle. So I have that in my favor, right? ๐Ÿ˜›

  727. sissy hankshaw says:

    Yup, he probably appreciates you more than you realize. Sometimes it takes people who’ve never had a good relationship time to just enjoy one and not sabotage it themselves.

  728. Incognizable says:

    Any wool or diaper drama??

  729. nu says:

    Not drama
    but Deviate I looked at that scareymerry site and her items are so cute!

    I don’t know what they are they? I don’t knit (although I’d love to take a class).

    I hope you hear from her soon!

    ps what is CC?

  730. Just Peachy says:

    Crunchy Co-op. Theres a big ole clusterfuck going on over there cus the owner didn’t realize she was missing almost 3k in paypal fees because people had sent their co-op payments as personal and paypal decided to take fees out without notice.

  731. Just Peachy says:

    Its come to my attention that this yarn was stolen from a mama. Something about someone changed the price on the YYMN mid transaction and then added a shirt and upped the price of the entire thing another 10 bucks. Buyer decided to back out and the seller wont refund her for the yarn at least.

  732. Munklettes says:

    Wow, that shirt is ugly.

  733. Incognizable says:

    I agree munklettes, reading should say…

    “Features a fugly silly green monster w/ boots on a blue tie-dyed shirt.”

    Peach, is the seller maybe waiting for it to sell to refund her? Or is she flat out refusing to refund all together?

  734. zamgrawrz says:

    Ew, yeah it is.

  735. Just Peachy says:

    Not sure yet but the whole transaction is scammy at best. Customer orders a yymn. Sends yarn directly to the knitter. Knitter decides to up the price mid transaction for the yymn from 25 to 35. Knitter then tells customer she had someone make a shirt so now its 45$ for the shorties and the shirt even tho customer did not request a shirt.
    Oh and the shorties were not even knit to the size the customer wanted so that screams scam to me too.

  736. werd says:

    omg that shirt is HORRID!!

  737. ลพรกba says:

    Wow, that shirt is amateurish at best. I don’t know about the shorties/yarn thievery, but that monster hurt my retinas.

  738. noisybean says:

    Good god that’s hideous. It doesn’t even match.

  739. sissy hankshaw says:

    740 you beat me to it. In no way does that shirt go with the shorties, and yes I agree it’s also pretty damn fugly.

  740. Kristen says:

    733- That whole situation just makes my stomach turn. Ugh.

  741. smartassmama says:

    That looks like some felt project from vacation Bible school.
    And totally wrong for that wahm to do any let alone all of that. :yuck:

  742. Redhead says:

    lol @ “vacation Bible school” comment… ๐Ÿ˜‰

  743. smartassmama says:

    I just don’t know why a seller would think any of that is OK.

  744. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    From what I understand, the knitter upped the agreed-upon price of the YYMN slot mid-transaction(after she had the yarn), then suddenly decided to have another WAHM make a matching shirt for the shorties, and demanded $20 more than the original agreed-upon price. When the owner of the yarn refused to buy it and decided she just wanted her yarn back, the WAHM listed the shorties as a “collab” on the congo. Lo and behold, the shorties are not even knit to the specified dimensions of the YYMN agreement. Makes one wonder if she hadn’t meant to do something like this all along. It just wreaks of scam.
    Sad to see such a promising new congo be dragged through drama like this.

  745. coffeehoar says:

    Makes me wonder what the seller THINKS was going to happen? Like the buyer wouldn’t notice, care, let alone say something? Like when one of my kids pinches the other, and the offended kid screams. I want to ask the pincher, what did you think would happen?

  746. Redhead says:

    That is just awful. Has anyone reported her to the congo mods, or whoever is in charge?

  747. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    748- The congo owner has been emailed, among others involved.

  748. Sala says:

    Wow, that combo is not worth that. That shirt is a. ugly, b. amateurish at best and c. completely not the same colors as the shorties. At all.

    Sounds like a horrible sit. for the buyer. I’d be upset if someone upped the price mid transaction. I’d be upset if the shorts were the wrong size. I’d be upset if they wouldn’t refund. I’d be upset if I saw that shirt that I didn’t want. even if I wanted a shirt, I wouldn’t want THAT shirt. I can’t imagine how upset the buyer is. Horrible all around.

  749. Kristen says:

    749- Who did the e-mailing?

  750. eeek says:

    I think buyer & seller should come tell us their stories. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    That shirt is awful. Doesn’t match at all, and it’s just not done well. A technique like messy edges or uneven shapes can look really cute but it can’t be used to try to cover up a lack of sewing skill.

  751. amessymama says:

    I’ll hold off judgement until I hear from both parties, or maybe even just one of them. Is the story being told anywhere public?

    I will judge that shirt though. That has to be one of the fugliest things ever!

  752. smartassmama says:

    Wow. And now that I see it on a normal sized screen, the cutting is very wonky.

  753. amessymama says:

    Dang it!! I hate when I accidentally put an “e” in judgment. :/

  754. sourpatchbabe says:

    Dear God in heavens! That is the single ugliest article of clothing that I’ve seen in my life. That looks like what a lobotomized epileptic thumbless octogenarian would create when asked to create the devil in vacation bible school.

    That is the stuff nightmares are made of.

  755. sourpatchbabe says:

    Dang it! I used create twice in the same sentence.

  756. Redhead says:

    OT question– isn’t it about time that “she who cannot be named” comes back on DS? Wasn’t it a 3mo ban?

  757. smartassmama says:

    755 – I do that too often as well.
    756 – I am laughing SO hard!

  758. zamgrawrz says:


  759. Kristen says:

    752/753- I’m trying to convince the mama to come here and post her side.

  760. ItsMe! says:

    Okay, so now that children are settled and tucked away (well, besides the one in my lap)….here’s the story. I purchased this yarn from Hippy Pippy @ $30 for the colorway and trim. The knitter agreed on $25 for the knitting. Okay so lets see…that’s $55 total, right? That’s PLENTY for a pair of shorties by a no-name knitter, IMO at least? Maybe I am wrong there…I don’t know. I give her his measurements which are approx 16″r, 17w and 1.5-2″ i. Anyways, a few weeks later she pm’s me with pictures and gives me a couple of different options with my pocket (that was included in the agreed upon price). Then I make my decision and wait. I get a pm back saying that I owe her $35. Ummm….are we charging interest on that $25?! I explain to her that they are really pretty shorties and I appreciate her work but I don’t have the extra $ lying around. Heck, at that time, I didn’t really have the $ I was spending on them anyways but I had already made the purchase and was obligated. Well, I take a couple of weeks offline for some personal reasons (even as far as abandoning my dear friend!!) and when I come back I have probably 15 emails from her demanding money. I pm her and let her know that I still wanted my shorties but could only pay the $25 we had set long ago. She then informs me that she had a shirt made to match these and it would cost me $45 to get the set. Whoa! What?! I didn’t ask for a shirt, much less one that doesn’t even match the shorties. I was speechless and actually never replied back because in the last pm she informed me that they would be stocking at the beginning of July and I could get them there if I wanted.
    So yeah….she wants an EXTRA $20 for a pair of shorties that she made to completly off the wall measurements and a shirt that I don’t like. Are you freakin’ kidding me?! My 3 year old could wear the set, not my 11 month old that it was intended for.
    Eeek. I’m sure I will be screwed out of my $ for the yarn completly but at least people will know to beware now.

  761. ItsMe! says:

    I forgot to mention that I hope the set never sales. I hope she doesn’t make a dime off of my yarn. Bitter much? You betcha!

  762. amessymama says:

    When did you purchase it? Can you file with Paypal still?

  763. ItsMe! says:

    For the yarn? Nope, because it was delivered to her.

  764. Incognizable says:

    WOW, the collab is no longer available?! Did they pull it or did it sell?? :err:

  765. ItsMe! says:

    Admin pulled it….I got a PM from her.

  766. zamgrawrz says:

    Wow, thats crazy. And terrible. Do you at least have the emails with the original stated price and such?

  767. Hexe says:

    Did you ask her for $ for the yarn or yarn send to you? I don’t understand why you did not communicate, I would have told her I am not interested in the shirt and would only pay the agreed on price. Or that I would expect a refund for the yarn. I would not have let that go.

  768. ladylili says:

    So not DS and not drama but someone on CDN is selling Goodmamas for $17.50 and $20ppd.

    Who is she foolin?

  769. CJ says:

    My son just saw the picture of the monster shirt, shrieked and ran out of the room screaming!

  770. melmelly says:

    CJ, time for early intervention therapy. He has been scarred FOR-EV-ER! lol

  771. CJ says:

    The 2 year old may be okay. I’ll wash his brain with ice cream and soda pop. It’s actually the 8 year old that I am worried about now; he thinks the monster shirt is cool. ๐Ÿ˜›

  772. sourpatchbabe says:

    He probably wants to wear it to freak out other kids at the playground or wherever it is 8 year olds hang out (can you tell I don’t have any 8 year olds?). Or he may be thinking halloween already.

  773. melmelly says:

    Ice cream washed brains are the best! My 6yr old would also ask for popcorn w/ butter, Sierra Mist, and M&M’s.

    My 3yr old…he would probably want me to make him a very scary monster shirt. He is all about shirts with dinosaurs, monsters, aliens, etc. The scarier, the better!

  774. CJ says:

    Yes, the 8yo is all over anything to do with monsters, aliens, dinosaurs, dragons. He has so many doodle pads filled with his alien and moster creations. They are pretty cool but all weird.
    Forget fabric and yarn. I’m going to start selling his sketches on HC. Sweet!

    Mmmmmm…..popcorn! What is Sierra Mist? Pop?

  775. melmelly says:

    Sierra Mist is like Sprite and 7UP.

  776. CJ says:

    Ah. It sounds so much more sophisticated than 7Up. LOL

  777. Just Peachy says:

    Trust me its not. Its Pepsi bastard version of Sprite IMO.

  778. CJ says:

    Isn’t 7UP Pepsi owned though? Why do they need another one?

  779. Just Peachy says:

    I think 7up is like Dr Pepper and its own company or something.

  780. mamk4 says:

    anyone think this mom is crazy letting her 3 year old ride around the block aka 1 mile all by himself? some one please tell me i am not just being over protective crazy mommy?

  781. mamk4 says:

    i have a feeling she is going to delete so here are her posts:
    Would you let your 3yr old ride their bike around the block alone?
    Ds really wants to!
    – we live in a gated community, even dsโ€™s friends who come over regularly are โ€˜interrogatedโ€™ at the gate, so security is tight. There are no weirdos around.
    – itโ€™s a very family friendly neighborhood, everyone either has kids or grandkids
    – ds knows a lot of the neighbors, he is one of those kids that talks to EVERYONE, so people know him!
    – Ds wears his light-up bike helmet and a safety vest (yellow and white with reflective tape all over it)
    – Ds only rides on the sidewalk, he is paranoid about cars and super careful and there is NO WAY he would go into the road, even if there was something cool on the road, a friend across the street, etc. The sidewalk has a 3ft strip of grass between it and the road, also there are hardly any cars driving around and they drive very slow anyway.
    – If ds falls off his bike, he can get himself back up again and doesnโ€™t cry/freak out or anything.
    – Ds is super smart and very verbal. He follows directions very well and is safety conscious.
    So I’m not really concerned about him being safe, my concern is more about other people that see him riding alone, I donโ€™t want the neighbors to freak out worrying about him!
    Our block is close to a mile around, if that makes a difference. We have gone around the block the same route for over a year every day, and he has been riding his bike on that route sense December. He has a Skuut bike and has good balance and goes pretty fast!
    Should I let him go?

    Why not? (just wondering! )

    He has fallen off before, and isnt they type to cry even if he gets scraped up (which is hard to do, there is grass on either side that he lands on)
    I am not at all worried about creeps lurking, safe neighborhood/town + with the security here + neighbors we know well usually outside + the chances of a stranger doing anything to your child are soooooo low, its just not something I worry about at all.
    Statistically, the chances of a child being kidnapped by a stranger is 1 in 1.5million.

    Hmmmmm.. what about me following him and gradually increasing the distance I am from him? And just see how it goes. That way I could also let the neighbors know what up.
    The kid has been asking me to let him go alone for months now, he thinks he is turning 5 on his bday and sometimes acts like a 5yr old, silly boy.
    Dont worry, Im not going to just kick him out the door and say ‘see ya in a bit’.
    If you did see a 3yr old riding alone, asked him where his mommy was and he explained that mommy knows where he is, he was told he was allowed to ride around the block, knew to watch for cars, stay on the sidewalk and was going right home (he would also point out that he has his helmet on, he does this anyway to everyone he talks to!)…. what would your reaction be? Ds could easily clearly explain all that.

  782. CJ says:

    Oh my, I have too much time on my hands right now. (BTW, my kids are safely asleep so no digs there. :P)

    Peach, 7UP is owned by the same company as Dr Pepper in the US! In Canada though, 7UP is a Pepsico brand. Weird.

    There is our boring, useless pop info for the night.

  783. Valerie says:

    Hi, I’m the knitter. Wow. This is not my version of it at all. I have our PMs and never did I ask for $35. I finished the shorties on 3/28 and messaged her with pictures. She replied back 4/5 saying that she loved them and if it was ok with me she would pay 4/13. It was fine. 4/13 came and went with no contact. I sent her a PM on 4/22:


    I’m really not trying to bug you, but when do you think that you’ll be ready for your shorties? My paypal address is v… if you need it again. If you’re not going to be able to, I can sell them and refund you everything minus the $25 for my knitting if you want to work it that way. Let me know what’s going on.


    No response.

    I messaged her and sent the same message her e-mail through DS on 5/6

    “Since I haven’t heard from you, I have to move on to try and get paid. I plan on putting these shorts up for sale on Monday unless I hear from you. I will refund you everything minus the $25 knitting fee. However, I need your paypal address to be able to do that. I hope everything is well on your end.


    I messaged (with corresponding email) her about a week after this (I don’t have that one saved somehow) but she quoted it in her reply to me so here it is

    “Ok since I still haven’t heard from you, I’m going to sell these. Without your paypal address I have no way of getting you your money. If I don’t hear from you in the next 2 weeks, I will consider these abandoned and you will forfeit the money that I make above my knitting fee. I’m not mad, I want to work this out, if you would just contact me. Hope everything is ok. ”

    I received no communication from 4/5 saying that she would pay 4/13, until I received her pm on 6/14. I don’t have her paypal address. All of this was arranged via PMs on DS. I never saw her e-mail address because the two e-mails that I sent her were sent via DS. I had, and still have, no way of sending her money.

    I really just wanted to get the $25 and I know that it’s her yarn. If she doesn’t want the shirt, Jenny has already said that she didn’t have to buy it.

    When she contacted me on 6/14 she asked how much she owed and wanted to know if I had sold them. This is my reply

    “I haven’t sold them. I had a shirt made to match them and was set to stock them when I open July 1st at the Apple Orchard. I was under the impression that you quit cloth. At this point I had written off ever hearing from you. I’m trying to think of a fair way to settle this. Jenny at VeryChicBaby shouldn’t be left holding a custom shirt just like I shouldn’t have been left holding the shorties. Here’s what I’m willing to offer. You can purchase the collab in full, $10 for the shirt, my $25 knitting fee, $5 in my shipping to Jenny and pay the shipping of it to you. Or if you don’t want it, I’ll just sell it. No biggie.”

    No reply. I admit that this message was a little more terse than I try to be, but I was surprised that she showed up two months later. If she didn’t want the shirt, she could have said so. If she wants the shorts, she can still have them, by paying me the agreed upon $25. I don’t have them in front of me to compare them to the sizing asked for. But if they’re wrong then, I’ll reknit them. I definately don’t want that. This is not something that I wanted to have to do out in public. I have always been prompt in my replies to her and if she had just talked to me, we could work something out.

  784. melmelly says:

    The cranberry sierra mist that is available around the holidays is hopelessly addicting in our house. I used to like Sprite, but I like Sierra Mist and 7UP better. I don’t really care for many Coke products. I am a total Pepsi addict!

    When I worked in a grocery store in HS, I would always work the bottle return room and 7UP was distributed by PepsiCo, as well as Dr Pepper. RC Cola was with Coke products.

    Soda was a lot easier to sort than all the different beer companies, mainly due to all the regional micro brews.

  785. Kelolsen says:

    my DH does the dishes each day, does his own laundry, takes amazing care of our money (cuz I’m bad at it) and cleans up any left over toys each night. That’s not what makes him a great husband though. Its the trust that I have. Good luck to you. I really hope it works out.

  786. tootrue says:

    Personally, I think if you are planning on keeping the shorties that you knitted with her yarn and selling them you should pay her the cost of the yarn…especially if they are not knit to her specifications…the lack of communication sucks but that yarn isn’t yours to keep imo.

  787. Hexe says:

    How did the custom shirt happen? Did she ask for it? Why are the shorties with her yarn not knit to her measurements? I don’t understand why the buyer did not respond at all, I wish she would let us know. For not asking about her yarn for two month she makes it a big deal now. I think that the costs of the yarn should be refundet to the buyer, but that is hard to do if the buyer does not communicate. Has she forwarded her pp addy now?

  788. DSDM2 says:

    Hasn’t she paid a deposit? Don’t you have her PP address from that?

  789. Valerie says:

    This is the first that I’ve heard that they weren’t the right size. If they weren’t the right size, I would have fixed it, had I known about it. The shirt came about when I was going to sell them. I knew that I was opening on hyenacart so I held of selling these until then. If she does want them, I’ll gladly fix them to the size that was communicated (16″w 17″r 3″i).

    I’ve been in communication since the beginning. She even said she had messages from me. I was just left holding shorties that I didn’t think that she wanted. I’m not trying to steal her yarn. If she wants her yarn back, I’ll reskein it for her and send it to her. If she wants the shorties, the original $25 is just fine.

    She did not pay a deposit. Until this point, I had had no issues with people paying promptly.

  790. Just Peachy says:

    So lemme get this straight. You are gonna charge her your knitting fee even tho those were CLEARLY not knit to the size she specified and you are making your money back for knitting them? That really makes me doubt the validity of your story. I could see saying look I am keeping a deposit but will refund you for your yarn, but what you are doing is just scammy.

  791. sissy hankshaw says:

    I understand everything but why they weren’t to the specified size. Why would you knit them a different size? And I agree she should be reimbursed for the yarn. She dropped the ball with her lack of communication also but that doesn’t mean she should lose money on this, you still get paid when these sell.

  792. sissy hankshaw says:

    792 and how did you not know they weren’t the right size? that just doesn’t make sense. if you’re implying she never gave you a size why would you just start knitting without knowing what size to knit them? I agree with peachy, those points make your side of the story very fishy. Maybe her lack of communication made you angry so you decided her loss your gain. I can understand how frustrating it was but you still can’t conduct business that way.

  793. Valerie says:

    I didn’t know that they weren’t the right size until this was brought up here. I don’t have the shorts in front of me to measure them. If she had said that they weren’t the right size, I would have done everything in my power to make it right. I have tried from the beginning to make this right.

    793- I don’t have a deposit to keep. All I had was the yarn.

    I really truely have tried to work with her for over three months. I offered to sell them and give her everything over my knitting fee. And no I still don’t have a paypal addy.

  794. Valerie says:

    795- I never said that they weren’t the right size. Size was never brought up until here. She did give me measurements 16โ€ณw 17โ€ณr 3โ€ณi.

  795. CJ says:

    Is this a case of a knitter being new-ish to doing custom work and the shorties just coming out big due to gauge being off?

    The knitter has offered here to frog and re-knit or re-skein the yarn. Was that offered in messages to the intended buyer? It sounds like the re-knit was offered at least.

    I just don’t understand why the customer is not communicating. If she is upset about this, which she obviously is, it doesn’t make sense to just drop it for 2 months and not say anything.

  796. CJ says:

    “She did give me measurements 16โ€ณw 17โ€ณr 3โ€ณi.”

    The shorts in the listing are clearly much bigger than that though. Why did you make them so much larger in the first place?

  797. Hexe says:

    I don’t get the measurement thing, why did you not knit according to the buyers measurements? But I have to say that I also do not understand the buyers reaction. No answers and communication in two month at all? I would have also thought that she abandoned her purchase. The buyer got the yarn sent directly to the knitter and did not pay for the knitting, not even after arranging a new paying date. And then no communication. What is the knitter supposed to do, just suck it up that they will not get payed for their work? I would hold the shorties as well if I would be the knitter.
    I just would like to know from the knitter why they were not made to the buyers measurements, or were those never communicated either?

  798. Valerie says:

    798- the only size issue that I can think of is I was taught to measure the rise from drawstring to drawstring. I have now learned that people measure it from top of waistband to top of waistband. This is a difference in almost two inches in rise. I’ll own that if the rise is off, it’s becuase of this. I’m 99% sure the rest is correct. Neither of these options has been offered to her because like I said, this is the first that I’m hearing about size issues. Up until now, she has not said that she had any problem with the shorts.

  799. Valerie says:

    Ok, I’m off to work. I’ll check on this when I get home.

    To the buyer- I’m really sorry that you felt that this was your way of communicating with me. I would like to make this right.

  800. Just Peachy says:

    But if you are making your money back on the shorties why charge the knitting fee? Its like selling the same item twice and I don’t get how anyone with a conscience could think that would be ok. While I don’t agree that WAHMs should roll over in every instance, this is one of those instances where you are very very very freaking wrong. You need to refund her the cost of her yarn at the very least regardless of you selling them or not. Even if she did buy them, she would not be able to use them which is your fault. And btw I don’t really think frogging is a good idea especially not with 2 ply merino. I know I sure as hell wouldn’t wanna get back frogged yarn on that base because I know from experience it would look like crap.

  801. Hexe says:

    Valerie, did they just not turn out the size you wanted them to be?
    Looks to me that the buyer had some remorse after purchasing the yarn and tried to gain time before knitting payment would be due. She did not pay on the agreed day and did not bother to communicate. At this point what is the knitter supposed to do, wrong size or not. The situation could have been easily fixed by the buyer. 1. refund for the yarn, 2. ask for reknitting, 3. ask for the yarn back, and I am sure there are more options. The buyer choose to not respond at all.

  802. Just Peachy says:

    If you do not know how to measure for sizing then why the hell are you even knitting??? Do you even know what a gauge swatch is???? That there is just gahhhhhhhhhhhhh! You do NOT pick up a set of knitting needles and get cracking in the wahm world.

  803. Just Peachy says:

    Oh and I mean knitting for pay.

  804. Hexe says:

    Peachy, she hasn’t payed for the knitting, she has just payed for the yarn. She has been offered a refund and did not respond. It would be great if the buyer would explain why she did not bother to communicate at all. I would refund her the $30 for her yarn and be done with it, but where do you send the money if you do not have a pp addy. I also think that no communication is not ok after the knitter has done her work. At least I would expect a ‘no thanks, shorties are not the right size, refund for my yarn’ and this in a timely manner and not after two month.

  805. Just Peachy says:

    #807 that is true but she was intending to be paid for her knitting. I guess I could see knitting for pay if ya didn’t take customs since measurements would be listed for everyone to see.
    I can only speculate but maybe the buyer didn’t think anything was wrong with this until it became public knowledge and more people agreed that it is wrong?
    I am also very hesitant to side with the seller on anything given that her story has more holes than swiss cheese.

  806. sissy hankshaw says:

    807 ITA. I don’t really this this is scammy after hearing all the fact’s, I think it’s a case where both the buyer and seller made mistakes. The shorties were not knit to the right size because the knitter is still learning how to knit evidently. The buyer iMO made a bigger mistake in not communicating with the seller. The buyer should just send her pp addy to the seller already so she can be refunded in full for the yarn.

    It might also be a good idea to lose the shirt before these shorties are put back up for sale lol.

  807. Hexe says:

    But the buyer did not pay nor did she communicate in two month. If I would not get any reaction for that long I would also assume that she does not want the item anymore. She only respondet when they went up for sale and not to the knitter. Why does the buyer not just ask for a refund for the yarn?

  808. nini02 says:

    What a mess. The seller and buyer *both* messed this up. Buyer disappeared and hasn’t given the seller what she needs to make this right, so I’m not sure exactly what she expected? She really put the seller in a tough spot by not responding.

    The seller needs to brush up on knitting to size, for sure. ALL of the measurements listed on HC are off from what the buyer wanted, and not just the rise. I don’t understand how the knitter could not have known, honestly.

    At this point, assuming the buyer will start communicating again, the seller either needs to send $30 (or whatever it was) to the buyer for the yarn and then sell the set, or frog the yarn and send it back to her. The buyer shouldn’t have to pay a knitting fee for something that is the wrong size.

  809. sissy hankshaw says:

    811 exactly!

  810. CJ says:

    803- Peach: I don’t have time to read back through the posts right now (, but my understanding was that the knitter said she would ask only for the knitting fee if the customer wanted the shorties. Same deal if the customer wants the shorties re-knit. She just asks for the knitting fee. I don’t think she is asking for the knitting fee to be paid even though she is selling them on HC; it’s only if the customer wants them.
    I highly doubt that she does want them though at this point. The lack of communication makes it seem like she bit off a bit more than she could chew as far as $ goes and just decided to drop the ball on the shorties so that she wouldn’t be out more money.

  811. tootrue says:

    I totally agree #811 mistakes on both ends but the buyer shouldn’t be out her yarn…the seller can always sell the shorties and get her knitting fee…just lose that hideous shirt!

  812. zamgrawrz says:

    Um, it isn’t just the rise thats off according to the measurements you put on your own listing. 19R, 18-20W, 3.5I. That means ALL the measurements are off. Don’t get me wrong, I’m still newish to custom sizing as well (but I also don’t knit for profit, the farthest I’ve gone is doing a yarn swap) and I messed up the hip sizing for my first attempt. Not sure how the heck I did that but apparently math is hard. Even with that though, I was still spot on with the rise and inseam. It isn’t hard to do those properly, all it takes is measuring as you go….

    783-yes, I do think she’s nuts. 3?? Jeeze….I won’t even let my almost 5 year old run around our apartment complex unsupervised. I also think she’s in total denial. Just because you know a neighbor doesn’t mean they aren’t a perve. Or because you live in a gated community, doesn’t mean you’re safe from random people with messed up minds. I wouldn’t worry about kidnapping so much as other more common occurrences. A 3 year old could EASILY be convinced to go in someones house/backyard/car. I don’t care how smart your child is, 3 is 3.

  813. Just Peachy says:

    โ€œSince I havenโ€™t heard from you, I have to move on to try and get paid. I plan on putting these shorts up for sale on Monday unless I hear from you. I will refund you everything minus the $25 knitting fee. However, I need your paypal address to be able to do that. I hope everything is well on your end.
    I took this to mean that she would still charge the knitting fee regardless of her selling them. The story changed after I called her on that.

  814. nini02 says:

    813 – that would totally make sense, re: the knitting fee, but that’s not how I understood it. This is what she said:

    “Iโ€™m really not trying to bug you, but when do you think that youโ€™ll be ready for your shorties? My paypal address is vโ€ฆ if you need it again. If youโ€™re not going to be able to, I can sell them and refund you everything minus the $25 for my knitting if you want to work it that way. Let me know whatโ€™s going on.”

    I take that to mean she’d sell them on HC, keep the knitting fee, and send the rest of the $ to the buyer, but that doesn’t make sense, IMO, so maybe I’m not understanding it correctly. She should sell the shorties, send the cost of the yarn to the buyer and keep the rest for herself.

  815. CJ says:

    Hmm. You’re right. It doesn’t make sense the way that she wrote it. I took it to mean that she would refund the seller everything but the knitting fee….meaning that she would refund the cost of the yarn. Which in reality is all that CAN be refunded at this point as the customer has not actually paid any other fee. The knitter is not able to refund the knitting fee as it has not been paid. Ugh, I am so confused.

  816. sissy hankshaw says:

    It sounds to me like she was going to keep the knitting fee also.

    And about the woman wanting to let her three yr old 1 MILE around the block, she is f****g crazy! I still talk to my 10 yr constantly about “stranger danger”. Three??? I don’t care how verbal he is he’s still not equipped to deal with the unexpected. At least everyone who answered told her hell no.

  817. sissy hankshaw says:

    818 I took it to mean she would take the knitting fee out of the cost of the yarn. So the yarn cost 30 I think, so she would have refunded five dollars. At least that’s what i understood.

  818. Just Peachy says:

    #820 thats what I thought too
    WTF @ the chick letting her 3 year old go a mile around the block. I don’t give a shit if you live in a gated community or not, there are ALWAYS pervs around. Unless I personally knew every single person that lived around me for years, I would NOT be letting my 9 year old let alone my 3 year old ride around the block unattended.

  819. sissy hankshaw says:

    821 I knoow right! I don’t care if I’m the uncool mom that ruins the fun. I’d rather have piece of mind. And I especially worry about what they are getting into going so far away from the house when they get older.

  820. Hexe says:

    I guess at this point, if I had offered a refund and would not be provided a pp addy, I would move on and not do anything. I just don’t get why the buyer does not contact the knitter. The knitters wording is confusing, the right thing to do would have been to refund the yarn itself or the money for it ($30) according to the buyer. BUT if you do not hear from the buyer at all (besides on here) there is nothing the knitter can do imo. And hell, I would not react to a buyer that contacts me after 6 month or a year. The buyer has the opportunity to get a refund now, she should either send her pp addy to the knitter or shut up forever.

  821. sissy hankshaw says:

    823 you keep taking the words right out of my head on this situation.

  822. zamgrawrz says:

    I think what she was saying is she was going to sell the set and then send her everything but the $25 for her knitting. Which means the other mama would be very much losing out on the deal, unless she sold the shorts alone for $55 or more. Which she wasn’t trying to do.

    I’d just refund her the cost of the yarn at this point, which isn’t a ton, then try to sell the shorties for whatever you can and take it as a small loss. I know it sucks losing out on all that work, but its better to save face.

    Obviously this is all if the buyer sends you her pp addy. I also don’t get the lack of communication from the buyer but things happen.

  823. imasupernova says:

    What I am reading the knitter will sell the set for say $50, take the knitting fee of $25 because she did the work and will send the remaining $25 to the buyer, which should cover the cost of the yarn, right?

    I mean really the buyer totally looks at fault here. No communication from her and the knitter is suppose to sit on the yarn/pants?

    The knitter offered to fix the sizing on the pants or reskein the yarn and send it back. I think that the knitter should do that and or refund the amount of the yarn and be done with this.

    Buyer your lack of communication and or buyers remorse is the problem here. Send your address or paypal addy already!

  824. eeek says:

    I think the sizing was bad, but that isn’t really at the heart of this as the buyer avoided communication for so long, and sizing didn’t come up until the real controversy was being discussed. If the buyer had been communicating, if she’d paid for what she ordered two MONTHS ago or say, hadn’t paid because of the size instead of just blowing it off, this would be a very different story and the size would be pertinent. I really think that the size issue is being used by the buyer to distract from some big holes in their story.

    simplified outline:
    -knitter was sent yarn, and no money, but promised $25 for knitting.
    -when she was done, buyer didn’t answer her emails & 2 months went by, she said she would just sell it.

    At that point, could the person who sent the yarn expect anything but whatever the knitter could get for the shorties-$25 for her knitting? She shouldn’t have to work for free just because someone changed their mind about a custom they ordered.

  825. zamgrawrz says:

    She’s selling the colab for $50 and if the shirt was supposed to cost $10, that leaves $40, yes? Maybe? I dunno, maybe I’m seeing it wrong. But if thats the case, then the buyer would only get $15 back, when she said she paid $30 for the yarn. If she got $25 back I think that’d be fairly reasonable….I mean, its not all she spent, but most of it. And it was partially her fault too.

  826. Redhead says:

    I haven’t read over this very much, but if the buyer waited 2 months to communicate- I see a big problem with that.
    I guess I need to read over the whole thing though, the prices are confusing me…

  827. eeek says:

    Maybe all she can get for them is $40. It’s not spring anymore (like when these were knit), people don’t buy as much later in the summer as it’s almost longie season. If all she can get for the shorts is $40, should she have to just lose out on her knitting fee, because the buyer decided to flake on this custom? I think if the buyer gets $15 out of this she ought to be OK with it, this is her fault for not communicating for months.

  828. Kristen says:

    Valerie, I don’t know who told you that you’re supposed to measure from drawstring to drawstring for the rise, but that is very wrong! I wish I would’ve known that as it would’ve cleared up why the knitting I received from you was about 1.5-2″ off in the rise as well. I did not say anything because you were new and I thought maybe I had given you the wrong rise measurement. Now that I read what you said about drawstrings, I think that cleared it all up. No biggie for me. I sold/traded all but one pair of the woollies.

    As for buyer communication, I don’t want to air all the mama’s business out here, but I can say for certain that she was going through a rough time. Does that excuse the lack of communication? No. But it does explain it some.

    I also know this mama very well and if she said that the price was inflated, then I believe her, however I have not seen any proof either way.

    The buyer didn’t say anything about the shorts because she doesn’t like drama and wanted to let it go. If you want to blame someone for bringing it up 2 months later then blame me. I’m the one who brought it up to Peachy and gave her permission to post about it here. I am, however, happy that this is getting resolved.

    As for the knitter refunding the buyer the cost of the yarn, I do not see that as a loss. It’s basically the knitter BUYING the yarn from the buyer and then knitting it up into shorts to stock on HC. How is that any different that the knitter buying yarn off of Spots or HC and working it up into an item to be sold on her HC? It’s not. The knitter will not be taking a loss here. The buyer will if she does not get a refund.

    I don’t know why the buyer has not posted here since last night. I haven’t talked to her today. I hope that she does come on, sends the knitter her pp addy and then gets her refund.

  829. eeek says:

    Except that a knitter would get a choice of their yarn in your situation, and might not have ever wanted to use this. That’s why it’s different than a knitter buying their own yarn.

  830. Kristen says:

    832- Then the knitter can always frog the yarn and re-knit it into what she wants. If she can offer to frog and re-skein the yarn for the buyer then that option should be good enough for her as well.

  831. Kristen says:

    832- Re-read your comment and yes, you are right, the knitter would get to choose the yarn. Just the same, that is not an option here so both parties need to make the best of this. The buyer is out shorts if the knitter refunds her for yarn and sells the yarn in her HC. And I wouldn’t say that it is almost longie season…not in all parts of the country at least. I’m in TX and we stay in shorts until Halloween.

  832. Kristen says:

    ugh that should read “sells the shorts on her HC” – I don’t have enough coffee in my system yet.

  833. smartassmama says:

    It’s a shame those are full of bad karma. They would fit my son, if my measurements are right. And the shirt would be a nope.
    If he had shorties he’d wear them in December. He’s not fond of sleeping in pants. The shorties I bought about 6 months ago had too short a rise for his donk, so big sister wears them.

  834. Hexe says:

    Kristen, no matter what the reason for non communication was, the knitter cannot be expected to hold on and wait for their money forever. If the buyer had a hard time all it would have taken would have been to respond to one of the knitters emails and explain that you have a hard time and that you would like your yarn back. Since the measurements were off I think the price for the yarn should be refundet.
    You said that you brought the whole story up and not the buyer, but the buyer seemed really upset in her post on here, saying that she is left with nothing. If she just wanted to let it go (I still don’t understand what she wanted to let go), she should not complain now. She choose to not get in contact with the knitter.

  835. Hexe says:

    I read the buyers comment on here again and she mentioned that $55 for shorties seems a lot. And it is, but it is $30 for yarn and $25 for knitting. That doesn’t seem inflated to me. And the buyer mentioned that she did not respond to the emails, only after she took a couple of weeks offline. I am sorry, but you cannot just not respond if you are in a transaction. I understand that life happens, but it happens to all of us. It is just a bad transaction because life happened. Valerie, I think you should refund the $30 for the yarn and sell the set. I just think that the set doesn’t have the right price either, since you want $25 for knitting and the yarn did cost $30 (I don’t know how much you have left over).

  836. Just Peachy says:

    Well I can see why the buyer stopped communication. If you read my original post about the issue it states that the knitter upped the price of the YYMN slot from 25 to 35. Again this is a she said/she said matter but if so I would probably stop communicating as my crazy would end up showing up.

  837. eeek says:

    I understand you want your friend to be taken care of here. Sometimes, though, when you make a mistake you just have to admit it & move on, it kind of sounds like that was what she was doing before maybe? Did she mention this to her friend, as a vent, with the spin we all know we put on vents sometimes, and then it’s now kind of blown up much bigger and a bit twisted?

    I just have to say, I think it’s unreasonable to expect a WAHM to make less, because she changed her mind. The knitter IMO doesn’t have to split it with her, she wasn’t in the wrong here–except size and that didn’t come up until after months of non-communication, the buyer didn’t know the size was wrong when she wasn’t answering emails, she just didn’t answer. If the buyer had done any of this because of size, it would matter, but the buyer did it because she was backing out of a transaction she started.

  838. eeek says:

    But Peachy, if you read the emails posted, it really didn’t sound like that. Those do kind of make this whole thing make a bit more sense.

  839. Hexe says:

    Peachy, if a knitter would change the price on me, I would send her an email that this is not the price we agreed on and that I would like my yarn or money for it back. Not responding at all doesn’t make any sense.

  840. Redhead says:

    Love this response to the “let my 3 yr old kid go biking” mom…

  841. noisybean says:

    I think the thing in question here is why the hell did the buyer fall off the face of the earth for two months? I mean, she paid for the yarn. Doesn’t she want it? What’s her deal?

  842. sissy hankshaw says:

    I know the confession thread is supposed to be a place free of judgment but if a confession is judgmental how are some people not going to get offended? How are mama’s who co-sleep not supposed to be insulted by being told what they are doing is dangerous? All it takes is a simple google search to find many experts and statistics that support the safety of co-sleeping for those who follow certain guidelines. And this time it’s from a woman who doesn’t even have any children yet.

  843. Myself says:

    I would love for someone to send screen caps of these emails / PMs to DSDM2 , that would really resolve this

  844. sissy hankshaw says:

    843 lmao do ya think she gets it by now? I hope so.

  845. imasupernova says:

    845 – I actually think Mrs. Rusty’s post was more of judgmental confessions of what she thinks of other people on DS specifically and not true confessions. Some of those are actually quite insulting…

    843/847 – I wanna see this mama’s response to that post…I quoted it so it is out there now. I just can’t believe she even asked something like that then posted about this pitbull like an hour later.

  846. angelique says:

    here’s something ….ummmm….interesting

  847. sissy hankshaw says:

    848 agree. Quite a few things she said bothered me also. The co sleeping one the most though. That thread shouldn’t be an excuse to be rude to the members of diaperswappers. I don’t agree with everything I read on the internet either but I feel no need to try and make anyone feel bad for their beliefs or practices. It especially bothers me she doesn’t have a child yet and she seems to have so many opinions on how to raise one.

  848. Redhead says:

    849, I am at a loss for words on that one.

  849. Kirsty says:

    Let’s see if I got this straight- I’m going t put this into terms that my gorilla brain can understand so please bare with me:

    I drop my dog off at the groomers with the request of a chamomile and lavender bath and a schnauzer styled hair cut. The groomer calls me and tells me that Fifi is groomed and ready for pick up and I ask her if I may pick her up at 4:30. She agrees and we set about our day. Except 4:30 comes and goes and I don’t pick Fifi up. The groomer spends the next 2 months calling me but receives no communication from me as to what the deal is with my dog, Fifi. She leaves one more message for me saying that she is selling Fifi to a breeder. So finally I resurface after seeing the ad for my dog in the local newspaper, complaining that my dog was bathed in Lemonbasil and was given a poodle trim not per my specifications and accuse the groomer of being all kinds of shady for a) not following my instructions and, b) giving up on hearing from me after 2 months and looking at rehoming the goods- in this case, my dog.

    My love for my dog not withstanding, I never make a valid attempt to get my dog or even sell her my dog, I just passive-agressively drag it out over the interwebs creating speculation about the situation.

    Hmmmmm. Seems legit to me.

  850. magpie says:

    849…that is the single freakiest thing I have ever read on DS. WOW!

  851. angelique says:

    852. interesting comparison. looks like both were in the wrong but they both are saying that the knitter was messaging to get the whole thing resolved whereas it seems the buyer has done little to nothing besides get on here and complain.

  852. Redhead says:

    That confessions thread is going a bit far.. One mom wishing she could do cocaine again? Really?

    And Mrs Rusty has always gotten on my nerves. Yes, I think we can honestly say that it isn’t logical for her to have so much of an opinion (on EVERYTHING) because she in fact, does not have children! How can she really know?

  853. DSDM2 says:

    849. I wonder if that is why she is banned from Military SOS?

  854. imasupernova says:

    852 – HAHA That was awesome!


  855. Redhead says:

    Gonna post it before it gets deleted!

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    demonic dreams and prays needed!!!
    Back story: My husband was having demonic dreams while I was pregnant with our son, and it would always end with on of the “demons” saying “you tainted soul, we will have vengeance on your child.” We talked to his mom about all of this and she put our mind to ease, saying its probably just nerves, the unknowing about parenting.

    Now I am not so sure if thats what it was all about. My husband’s grandma is a preacher and has always said that unless galen (my husband) was in their prayers, he would go through things, he would actually feel things pulling on his legs at night, and everything. Well last night I had a dream, and I was taking care of my son rocking him in the chair trying to get him to go to sleep, and his play pen is about 3 feet from the chair, in the corner. Out of the corner of my eye, I caught a very dark black shadow, and it stated “you tainted soul, ill have vengeance on your son”

    I woke up after this point. Not even thirty seconds later, no warning or anything. my son let out a gut turning scream. I always have warning that he is starting to stir, but there was nothing but this scream. I pick him up, (something that most of the time calms him) but it didnt. I looked him over and he had three long deep scratches on his back, that he didnt have before bed. So I put the spare car seat on my side of the bed, put a comforter in it, and placed him in it after he calmed down enough to sleep. I wake my husband up, tell him everything, and he told me not to worry about it, its probably nothing, to put him back in his play pen. So I set him back in there, he starts to cry again. My husband then tells me to bring him back there and let him sleep in his carseat. We prayed together last night over our son, for protection.

    We both know that he cant have our son, our son is gods only to take, but this doesnt make it any easier on us. We dont know what god has planned for him, but we are thinking its something big since these things have been going on since i was pregnant and have gotten worse since he has been born.

    so please if you guys can, keep us in your prays. This is getting us very scared.
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  856. imasupernova says:

    Honestly the husband just writes it off and rolls over back to sleep…?


  857. sissy hankshaw says:

    849…………I don’t even know what to say. Reminds me of that movie paranormal activity.

    855 i know, my jaw dropped when I saw that.

    And I thought my post to her was nice considering how judgmental she was being. That hug was not a condescending one. I hate confrontations but I find it hard to keep my mouth shut when something really bugs me. I’m also out of practice in the art of internet debating though lol.

  858. Kimbella says:

    Someone wanna ask her to take and post pics of the scratches on the baby’s back?

  859. amessymama says:

    861-Someone please ask! :beg:

    Someone also needs to ask if they have a cat.

    Then someone needs to tell them to select a different genre of movies to watch.

  860. not me at all says:

    I was just coming to post the demon attack…

  861. melmelly says:

    I’m bothered that she had her baby sleeping in the carseat next to her bed. It’s different when the carseat is in a car because it is (hopefully) inclined right.

  862. angelique says:

    checked out the confessions thread. yikes. #27 is way sad.

  863. Redhead says:

    You ladies are cracking me up- I don’t know who each of you are, but I know who reads the blog now! Hahahaha!

  864. imasupernova says:

    864 – me too…I don’t know if I’m strange or what but if my child was scratched by demons I would probably console them and not just place them in a car seat next to my bed and go back to sleep.

  865. angelique says:

    okay maybe I should stop on that thread. someone claimed to be basically bulimic. talk about confessions, huh?

  866. amessymama says:

    Great here’s loony, Catholics are the best ever, mommy2gr8kids78 to save the day. I’m sure she’s just waiting for someone to disagree with her so she can scream at them for Catholic bashing!

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    I’m glad to hear that you will be contacting them. It’s great that you have your own pastor, but the Catholic church has been the only one is history to effectively banish evil, demonic possessions, etc..

  867. silvaheyes says:

    I love how she originally posted that they would let their pastor see them before posting them then she suddenly changed her answer saying that they wouldn’t be posting the pics on a public form. lol

  868. magpie says:

    MM is stupid. She is always looking to fight with someone.

  869. Redhead says:

    Erin12345/Kelsey/MM joined in the convo with her awesome parenting advice.

  870. amessymama says:

    Gah! Maverick’s mommy or whatever her name is bugs the crap out of me!!! It’s times like this I hate being banned.

    “Not all babies like to be cuddled” That’s her response to TF’s question about holding an cuddling him. No, some prefer to lay all by themselves with gashes on their backs.

    And the mom won’t hold her injured baby all night because he might get used to it and want to do it every night. Seems to me like this would be a great solution to keeping baby away from the demon backscratcher!!!


    Sorry, I just had to get that out. ๐Ÿ˜€

  871. Redhead says:

    amessy- you know who MM is, right? Did you see the Erin12345 post?

  872. silvaheyes says:

    …. She put her baby IN A CARSEAT ON A NIGHTSTAND?! Wtf?

  873. amessymama says:

    Yeah, I know she is one of many with MDSPD or Multple Diapers Swappers Personality Disorder.

  874. sissy hankshaw says:

    holy crap Mrs. Rusty is upset. I kind of don’t know how to deal with this. She’s making me feel guilty. I assumed she was expecting some backlash with what she said in her post so i didn’t think it would hurt her feelings to answer her. Good lord that thread is not just an excuse to just say anything you want without repercussions.

  875. imasupernova says:

    So now the baby was on the nightstand…?

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    Just because I didnt i didnt type everything out and explain everything that happened last night. My child was not on the floor, but on the night stand which is less then an inch from my bed. you can judge what i did, i really dont care. We are in the middle of no where, and the closest place that was open at 1 am is over an hour from us

  876. amessymama says:

    If you have no place to go, get in your car and go park somewhere. I wouldn’t stay in that house. Heck, if my kid had gashes on his back, I’d probably be at the ER.

  877. amessymama says:

    I hope she at least put some Neodemon on his wounds.

  878. silvaheyes says:

    878, Apparently so.. LOL I don’t know about her nightstand but mine is round and about 12 inches which is pretty small but even a nice sized one I wouldn’t put a baby carseat on.

    I mean babies fall off of kitchen tables which are MUCH bigger all the time. I can’t imagine my baby kicking while he/she was screaming from being attacked by a demon and putting them in danger of falling off the nightstand because you know she probably didn’t even strap them in considering she said she put a blanket in there first. Wow.

  879. imasupernova says:

    877 – she almost tries to guilt people into feeling bad for standing up for themselves. She acts like a know it all and is judging people in her post. Don’t feel bad.

  880. not me at all says:

    a car seat with a comforter in it on the NIGHT STAND? WTF???

  881. sissy hankshaw says:

    882 sent you a pm. She’s basically ordering me to delete my posts immediatly or admit to flaming her. I wish she’d just grow up and drop it. She’s making me miss all the good stuff in the demon thread.

  882. sissy hankshaw says:

    that eloiraimanual chick is a hoot.

  883. thesecret says:

    I was told to come here. I had a weird transcation with Valerie asking for more money when I bought a ducky set from her when the congo she was on opened. Everyone suggested I ask for a refund that I spoke to. Instead I ignored the money request and gave her about a week to week and a half before she finally e-mailed me her account was verfied. Again not sure how me sending a personal payment would have fixed her account. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

  884. Redhead says:

    I’m soo getting a strike today…

  885. magpie says:

    887-I can’t wait for her response!

  886. Incognizable says:

    @866, I remember reading about that transaction!

  887. melmelly says:

    So if her house were on fire, and they were an hour away from anything, would they still stay in the house?


  888. melmelly says:

    I forgot to put “1AM” in my comment above.

    So if her house were on fire at 1AM…

  889. amessymama says:

    886-How much money did she ask for? Was she asking you to cover PP fees?

  890. Redhead says:

    890- you should ask her that! ๐Ÿ˜‰

  891. smartassmama says:

    I’m afraid She might bully/*sadface* eracheld into deleting the quote, so here goes:

    confess: that DH and I have been TTC for over 2 years but less people than I have fingers IRL even know we want kids at all. I was seriously injured at work almost a year ago which caused me to gain 50 lbs, because I’m so vain I basically hate myself. vain I basically hate myself. I pitched and all out fit and locked DH out of room for days because he and a photographer friend wanted to surprise me with taking pictures of me, DH , & the dogs. WTH, It still makes me mad that he even thought I might be oK with never mind happy about my picture taken I think people who get married because they are pregnant to a man they barely know or are pregnant to a man they barely know or are teenagers aren’t to bright (Some DS Moms have made me see there are exceptions). made me see there are exceptions). I believe in the “marital bed” and think co- sleeping is basically wrong and not to mention dangerous. I think having sex with your LO in the dangerous. I think having sex with your LO in the same bed is even more wrong.

  892. silvaheyes says:

    890 – More than likely. She doesn’t seem to be a smart one.

    Also she cannot hold the baby for long periods because he may get used to it so obviously fleeing from a fire is too much for her, I guess unless she snags the carseat on the way out. Then she’d probably put him in the carseat in the middle of the road because she can’t hold him and she has no common sense. ๐Ÿ˜€

  893. smartassmama says:

    I find people who live together for years on end and have multiple kids or who TTC not married have some form of commitment issues whether they will admit it or not I am a picker, drives my DH batty think a lot of my single friends I still have are skanks and I don’t like to do girls weekends because of this because of this I think that video of the woman breast feeding her 8 year old was WRONG I think non-vax is dangerous and negligent I think the circumcision debate is laughable. And any mother who circ-ed her son should not feel any remorse unless there was a problem. Mourning your son’s foreskin really? I think breast feeding is awesome and wonderful But I think if you expose your entire boob in public you are a jerk and set the rest of us back decades every time you do this. No your kid doesn’t need a blanked over his head you need to cover your boob. doesn’t need a blanked over his head you need t cover your boob

  894. imasupernova says:

    887- Such a bad girl TF! LOL

  895. smartassmama says:

    Whether anyone here wants to admit it or not, human breasts are secondary sex characteristics human breasts are secondary sex characteristics and there for private parts. If they were just for feeding the would only exist after pregnancy until you LO is weened. look at other mammals when not feeding breasts go away. If they were just for feeding they wouldn’t respond to sexual arousal. feeding they wouldn’t respond to sexual arousal. I’m pretty sure everyone here is going to hate me now for these and keep considering erasing this whole post erasing this whole post I can’t stand my MIL and wish she would go away and loose her phone forever I think people who have an abortion because they personally could not raise there kid are selfish jerks for not actually truly considering adoption. adoption. I hate cleaning my house but I’m also neurotic about it and yep I use bleach. I’ve taken too many pathology classes to have any faith in natural cleaners for certain tasks. Every time another person IRL has a baby I have a mini melt down and then go into a depressed funk. It gets worse when they didn’t plan or in some cases want kids. some cases want kids. I have a huge problem with people who can not pay their bills and rely on welfare/govt issues insurance then TTC. it’s not my job to pay for you and your family. Being a SAHM is a luxury not a right and not everyone gets to do it.

  896. amessymama says:

    Someone should ask if she is afraid that he will insist on sleeping in the carseat now, since he did last night.

  897. treeindawind says:

    What would MM be admitting?

  898. naturalmamadot says:

    haha wait having sex while LO is in the ROOM is DANGEROUS, thats hilarious! I would love to see what she thought would come of that, is his dick gonna fall off? Is that really how you get HIV? Man shes a keeper lmfao

    At this point she is either one of the most STUPID people Ive ever seen on a forum or she is a troll.

  899. imasupernova says:

    893 – If you are already getting a strike you should ask her! LOL

  900. Redhead says:

    Treeindawind- this is ALSO Mavericks Mom:

    Erin12345. She also has like 2 other usernames on DS.

  901. melmelly says:

    Going to ask her right now Redhead!

  902. Redhead says:

    lol, I already did.

  903. Redhead says:

    Aww, I just got a warning.

  904. melmelly says:

    Yeah, I saw that after I posted. I couldn’t remember my username, so I had to get it sent to my email. I haven’t been on there to comment in a year or so because I got a virus and it killed my other comp ded.

  905. treeindawind says:

    I knew that MM was the other two I am just confused as to how she “admitted” it by quoting someone saying she had given good advice?

  906. Redhead says:

    I was being sarcastic and called her out as “Erin”.
    If she wasn’t “Erin”, she would have asked me what I meant by that statement… or something.

  907. thesecret says:

    she just said send a pp payment so she can collect the money

  908. treeindawind says:

    Ah I see. I am half sleep deprived and half a dimwit so sometimes it can take me a while to catch on to things.

    I need a nap before I have a nightmare and I envision a demon abducting my children.

    Wait….that would be a dream. Just j/k, ok maybe not.

  909. magpie says:

    Redhead-has she never commented on it before? I thought I remember her telling everyone she was NOT Erin. I could totally be wrong though as my little angel has gotten zero sleep over the last couple of days and therefore I can barely keep a thought straight.

  910. smartassmama says:

    I’m just surprised she’s yet to come here to defend those preposterous accusations that she’s Erin. lol

  911. Redhead says:

    Not that I saw. Someone said they asked her on her FB and she denied it, but that is all I have heard.

  912. Kirsty says:

    910- H2BM to the rescue. You’ve been edited.

  913. Redhead says:

    Darn it! I was proud of my nervy post!

  914. Redhead says:

    914, she did. Remember her calling us fat or b*tches or something and not taking care of my kids?
    Umm, I forgot her name though..Rylee’s Momma or something.

  915. Redhead says:

    *our kids

  916. smartassmama says:

    Oh that’s right.
    It was so half-assed that I’d forgotten.

    Sissy Hankshaw, Mrs. Rusty is trying to make me feel bad with her emotional “stop picking on me.”

  917. amessymama says:

    918-It’s hard to keep track of all the ones that say that.

  918. Redhead says:

    921- Lol. Well she came on all griping a us right after a post on comparing the 2, and then later came back claiming she was a “friend” of MM and that MM “was a great mom who loved her son and etc”. Smartz, she haz none.

  919. sissy hankshaw says:

    920 yeah I stopped talking to her. I was trying to be diplomatic about it but she’s acting like I’m just coming out of nowhere and viciously attacking her for no reason. I’m not erasing my posts mainly because of the way she told me to. Talk about needing some BGP’s.

  920. imasupernova says:

    Mrs. Rusty is pm’ing me asking me to remove my posts as well. They are not coming down unless a mod requests. Sorry!

  921. smartassmama says:

    Same here. I took out her name in my response, but I’m still wearing MY BGPs, so I will remain accountable for what I said, and not edit it. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  922. sourpatchbabe says:

    But, but, but, she EXPECTED everyone who quoted her posts to delete the quotes since she deleted the original posts! Don’t you know what that means? You’re supposed to do as she says and then join hands singing kumbaya.

  923. sissy hankshaw says:

    darn, eracheld delete the full quote.

  924. imasupernova says:

    I saved it in notepad… ๐Ÿ™‚

  925. zamgrawrz says:

    Wow, she is soooo judgmental. Ouch.

    And I feel kinda sorry for that demonic lady’s baby. He’s only 4 weeks old and she doesn’t want to cuddle him for fear he’ll get used to it? Even as a teen mom I knew better than that…heck, my DD is 5 months old tomorrow (eek!) and she spent the first 2 months of her life being held 95% of the time and snuggled in bed every night. Not saying thats right either, but she’s the sweetest most easy going baby I’ve seen ๐Ÿ™‚

    That and she started sleeping through the night at 2 days old. I’m not going to argue with that. ๐Ÿ˜›

  926. sourpatchbabe says:

    929. You DO realize that by putting it out there you have just jinxed yourself. She’ll probably wake up at 2am cutting all four of her molars while battling pink eye. Or maybe she’ll become like Jack Jack from The Incredibles on you.

  927. Redhead says:

    I think the demonic lady is lying. I expect she came on with a wild story trying to get “ooohs, ahhs…hugs!!”, and really wasn’t expecting the response she received.

    As far as Mrs. Whiny Pants Pming y’all, can you block her, or just tell her to put on her BGP and deal with it?

  928. smartassmama says:

    Haha. I love JackJack. Whenever one or both of the kids is being a pain, DH and I will look at each other and say, “hi I’m Kari! I’m the babysitter!! :/

  929. Valerie says:

    886- I have sold three pairs of ducky socks. One was through the congo before I joined (I was a guest). It sold the first day listed and I had nothing to do with the transaction.

    The other two were customs. Both sold for the same price, so I’m really lost as to asking you for more money. They were both easy straight forward transactions on my end. My paypal account has been verified for years. Really, I’d love some more details if you’re gonna stand behind what you’re saying.

    BTW, the above PMs that I posted for the shorties were all the PMs from me to her after the shorts were knitted. But if someone wants screenshots, no problem. I want to get this all straightened out.

  930. thesecret says:

    Someone wrote me after buying the collabration Jenny an addy on it saying to respond to that addy sending a pp [personal payment]. She put at the bottom the addy was Valerie’s the person that made the feet. Took 6 days for her to finally ship cause then she finally was “verified” So if the issue with that was not you, then Jenny should NOT have put a addy in my e-mail saying it was yours.

  931. zamgrawrz says:

    930-probably. But I hope not. lol

    She’s sitting here cooing at me atm, hopefully thats a good sign.

  932. Kimbella says:

    Now Rebelsmommy is saying she lives in a haunted house.

  933. zamgrawrz says:


  934. not me at all says:

    I say she needs a shrink not an exorcist

  935. Redhead says:

    Gag @ Maverick’s Mom and RebelsMommy.

  936. Redhead says:

    add TwinKristi in there too. I can’t stand reading her 20-pages of “this story relates to me” crap.

  937. Hexe says:

    Wow. Demons. Are they on drugs or something?

  938. zamgrawrz says:

    I had a demon in my belly last night.

    Darned beans. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

  939. sissy hankshaw says:

    I knew a girl that was haunted by demons. No joke. She also had inside information that Peter Gabriel was the second coming of christ.

    Yeah she was batshit insane.

    I’m failing to see how suggesting this woman go to her doctor and get checked out is being rude.

  940. sissy hankshaw says:

    941 lol. chori queso dip got me last week.

  941. lil'mama says:

    942- Yeah, the “don’t post here unless you really believe this woman and want to support her” thing really annoyed me. How in the world are you supposed to believe a woman who says her baby was physically attacked by an evil spirit that just threatened her in a dream?!

    Oh, and Hi. I’m a de-lurking lurker. :p

  942. Just Peachy says:

    Them two need to get together and make some beautiful white trash babies. I can picture it. Cut off button up shirts and short lil mullets. Priceless!

  943. zamgrawrz says:

    I don’t get how its rude either. I know it doesn’t mean she’s crazy but what if she really is having PPD/PPP….we don’t need to see some news story linked in a month about a mom seeing demons who randomly hurt her baby. Please. Its when people ignore stuff like this that those things can happen. (Again, NOT saying she’s loopy to that extent, or even at all…it just doesn’t help anyone to ignore the possibility).

  944. sissy hankshaw says:

    lmao at post 111. Well I guess that proves it right, i feel so stupid for jumping to the conclusion this wasn’t demon related.

  945. Redhead says:

    947—- :facepalm: How did we miss the 3 scratches = mockery of holy Trinity?!
    I’m so glad she pointed that out, It ALLLL makes sense now.

  946. sissy hankshaw says:

    948 now you go and apologize missy! Now who looks crazy.

  947. angelique says:

    yeah I noticed Rebelsmommy is back and Mary is gettin’ her crazy on in the demon thread

  948. lil'mama says:

    Also, does “you tainted soul, ill have vengeance on your son” even sound like something a demon would say?? Wouldn’t a demon *like* a tainted soul better than a pure one? Why would the demon “take vengeance” on the child? This sounds more like something God would say, not an evil spirit. Well, you know, if God went around scratching babies for a parent’s sins.

  949. piratebaby says:

    We have ‘visitors’ that we have seen in 2 houses. Our first house we just saw a light mist, our last house we saw actual black figures. They were so solid that it took a minute to realize it wasn’t one of the kids. They didn’t bother us and we didn’t acknowledge them directly, it was freaky when we saw them but we managed to live together peacefully. HOWEVER, had any of our children been threatened or SCRATCHED we would have been the hell out of there right that second!!!!

    I also question PPD/PPP in that particular case. It seems like women that harm their children are told to by the devil or because their children are doomed for whatever reason. And with the family being all crazy ‘if we don’t pray for you the debil will take yoouuu’ I can see that turning into a bad bad situation. Hell, I had a military chaplain tell me one time that my 3 yo’s night terrors were actually a demon bothering him and that he needed to ‘lay on hands’ to get rid of it! And that we needed to ‘break his will but strengthen his spirit’. Ummm yeah, that got a call in to the head chaplain and hospital social worker, what if I had PPP and a deployed spouse and this guy is telling me my kid is possessed???

  950. sissy hankshaw says:

    I find it disturbing how many posters on there are jumping on the “it’s a demon” religious bandwagon. I actually live in a crazy old haunted city where most people believe in ghosts because so many experience weird shit in all these old buildings around here. This is just waay out there though. Usually I find if a story is this crazy and detailed it’s either a figment of someones imagination who has some issues, or a lie. I don’t know which way i’m leaning with her but she sure does have a lot of people fooled.

  951. sourpatchbabe says:

    952. I read a while ago (in a humor mag) how women who kill/harm their children and blame the devil are believed more than women who blame God. They compared two trials of women who killed their children, one had said that God told her to kill the child because it was possessed and the other said that the devil made her do it. The one who said the devil made her do it was sentenced to jail time and the other one was marked as insane and sent to an institution.

    According to that article, no one will believe that God will force a mother to kill her child. Women who use that excuse are just sick and twisted. But everyone knows that the devil is evil so it’s believable that someone could be forced to do something that bad by the devil. Since this mama is obviously blaming God we know which side of the fence she is in.

  952. megs2486 says:

    Coming out of lurkerville ๐Ÿ™‚

    Yea, if my 4 week old child woke up screaming in the middle of the night with scratches on his back and I thought it was a demon, I’d stay in the house too. I’d just stick the kid in a carseat (with a comforter in it too! Gotta make sure he’s comfy) and put him on the night stand. You know…I’m out in the country and it’s 1am, nowhere to go.

    What the frick, woman?! I don’t believe her story for a second. I’m thinking she has a major case of PPP and if by some slim chance she’s telling the truth…WHY would you stay in the house? I don’t care if I had to drive all night. I’d make sure my kids our out and safe! DS sure brings out the cream of the crop, don’t they!

  953. Sala says:

    I read a bit of that hainted house thread and I just can’t go back to read further. It’s just too weird for me. I don’t need to read about religious fanatics (on both the pro-religion and anti-religion fronts) shouting at each other. Again. There’s stuff we can’t explain but I find this sort of thing to be just not my cup of tempest.

  954. iken says:

    This could get fun….in T&F

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    I posted the whole story, but here is the summary: I bought 5 BG 3.0 pocket diapers from a Mama. They were describled as EEUC, but they are FAR from it! ALL of the diapers show SEVERE pilliness and they all (IMO) STINK!!! I paid $12 each for the diapers, which is WAY more than they are worth given their current condition. I immediately contacted the seller and told her that I was disappointed in the condition, but she said that it is typical of BG’s and that she’s “sure I will enjoy the dipes as much as she did!”

    I messaged her back and said that I would really like to send them back to her for a refund. I even offered to pay the return shipping, which I think is more than generous on my part. Well, that was last Thursday (a week ago today) and I still haven’s gotten a response from her.

    I have since sold all but one of the diapers (for only $8 each!) so even though I can’t get a refund, I am still really mad that she hasn’t gotten back to me.

    Should I go ahead and leave negative feedback for her???

    What would you do?

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    Re: SO frustrated! Do I go ahead and leave negative feedback???
    I don’t know…maybe it has something to do with the fact that you already had them listed on FSOT for $10 each on Wednesday (the day before you even contacted her, according to your post).

    I, personally, would probably be a bit upset if you were asking me for a refund on diapers you already had listed for sale. But she still should have contacted you back.

    I honestly don’t know what feedback you should leave. I don’t think either of you handled it very well. In my opinion she has every right to leave you negative as well without it being considered retaliatory (you didn’t really give her the opportunity to correct the problem considering you had them up for sale before she could even attempt to make it right).

  955. smartassmama says:

    To the PP who mentioned F’s ban, I do remember her saying it was Just a 3 month. If so, tomorrow will be 4 months she’s been gone. Maybe owning her own forum, she’s found her own minions to kiss her ass.

    But I have to admit, if she comes back, I would love to see the day that she & MM butt heads and bitch it out.

  956. dundundun says:


    Don’t hate, yo. My daughter has a natural mullet. Poor thing. Her little sister has a reverse mullet. WTF is up with our genes!?

  957. Redhead says:

    I would almost consider kissing F’s backside if she got in a slapfest with MM & RebelsMommy– almost.
    But my luck would be they would all be BFFs for life, and then, well, I’d probably be banned for poking them too much.

  958. sissy hankshaw says:

    I’m so curious to see this felisha person in action. I remember her vaguely when I was just starting to lurk. She must be pretty crazy, i did wander into that thread on cdn and I made the mistake of looking for her shoe pics. gross.

  959. Just Peachy says:

    Well I guess its a good thing I made the decision to stay away from DS after the DDC fiasco earlier. I would be perma banned for poking that twunt.

  960. Redhead says:

    She wins +10 internets!!!

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    I’d rather my child cling to my neck 24/7 than be ripped to pieces by some random demon that was livin’ it up in my bedroom. I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t be all “lulz, hurrz ur carrier. when mahm hurrz da demon aginz i’ll pick u up!”

    I just don’t get this whole thing. Not one bit. Seems quite trolltastic.
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  961. Just Peachy says:

    OMFG I almost ROFL literally when I read that. That was awesome!

  962. dundundun says:

    w00tles. I win.

  963. smartassmama says:

    OK, maybe it’s just me. Is it a regional thing, or a denominational thing – the way she asks for ‘prays’ about the situation. I told myself it was a typo, but she did it again. Am I the only one who gets a twitch from that?

  964. Redhead says:

    What kind of “support” does Fox expect us to offer this mom who is..
    1) clearly crazed & in serious need of medical attention
    2) a troll

    Um, like a hug and pat on the rear? Does she not see that there is a major psycho problem with that whole thread?

  965. Aj says:

    So, LeBron’s going to Miami.

  966. Redhead says:

    bay’N’lace is trying to post over here, but her comments are in moderation..

  967. Sissy Hankshaw says:

    My last comment is in moderation also for some reason.

  968. mamak4 says:

    this chick seriously needs her head examined….

  969. Just Peachy says:

    #964 is pissed off about all the hubbub. The Cleveland Cavaliers owner even wrote a letter basically ripping LeBron to shreds.

  970. Redhead says:

    (Airmans angel) Lkorta1990 was apparently pregnant with twins last April/March (09). Was banned from the military board and came back as “Airmans_angel” and had a 6 month old daughter in June of 2009.

    And then was preggers again October 26, 09.

    Oh, and how ironic: Mrs F posted in the same thread as demon woman:

    And here’s her wedding but no 6 month old daughter:

  971. Kirsty says:

    956- That chick is pissing me off.

    960- That is the funniest freaking thing I have ever read!!!

  972. sourpatchbabe says:

    Am I the only one who thinks Herpes every time I read Rebelsmommy’s siggy? I KNOW what herpetology is; it’s just that combined with her line of work, all I can think of is STDs.

  973. monkey says:

    We have twatwaffle Tuesday, now we apparently have batshit insane Thursday/Friday.

  974. sourpatchbabe says:

    What does Rebelsmommy mean when she posted this in the confessions thread:

    I both love and hate the way my son was born (unneeded c section). I hate that I missed the first 4 hours of his life but love the fact that I have the insides of a 19-year old virgin.

    I don’t understand, is she implying that by giving vaginal birth our insides get all stretched out forever or that she’s never had sex in her life? Last I checked, the only way to have the insides of a virgin is to not insert any foreign objects into the vaginal area. A husband’s penis would negate the virgin status so even if she had a csection she still wouldn’t have the insides of a virgin. And why does it have to be a 19 year old? wouldn’t the vagina of an 80 year old virgin be the same size as a 19 year old’s?

  975. sourpatchbabe says:

    And I’ve never had a hotdog in the hallway problem even though I had two big headed boys vaginally. I’ve never received any complaints from the husband either.

  976. Just a girl says:

    For those asking about Felisha, I did find this bit of goodness, and FTR, her crotch shot from the old site, hers, she has a new one up:

  977. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    Sooooo… Anyone on CC heard any further updates on ScaryMerry? I still don’t have my order, nor has she responded to me or any of the other people asking about their orders from her store, so when it was clear she was ignoring me, I opened a PP dispute. It’s been three days, and she has yet to respond to that, either. I’m shocked that some one with such an ‘established’ WAHM business would have such awful CS practices.

  978. sissy hankshaw says:

    979 lmao. me neither!

  979. dundundun says:

    Yay! I can post now.

    bbl. goin’ to hunt some demons. asshole scratched my bebe again last night.

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  981. not me at all says:

    SERIOUSLY??? Her baby may really have been attacked by a DEMON? SERIOUSLY???


  982. megs2486 says:

    I’m about to get my first strike ever! ๐Ÿ™‚ Wonder if I can pull the “demon made me do it!” card?

  983. sissy hankshaw says:

    985 Didn’t you read that one post pointing out that there were three scratches? THREE? the holy trinity……get it?!?

  984. not me at all says:

    Why is Sally being all hand slappy instead of insisting that the OP needs a DOCTOR like NOW.

  985. Redhead says:

    RebelsMommy’s post is creeptastic.

    “I’ve been diagnosed psychotic. I can legally get away with murder and all I’ll have to do afterward is go through a mental evaluation and a rehab center.”

    “I have a taser because someone keeps breaking in my house and even though I know it’s potentially lethal I think I could use it on someone, knowing that its over 2 million volts (cops only care 50 thousand). If I use it over 6 seconds the person being tased will die. ”

    So, she is obsessed with killing someone?

  986. dundundun says:

    Holy shit. Way to admit that you can go all murdertastic on the population with no remorse and/or no consequence. I’m sure a judge would TOTALLY side with her if he read on a public forum that she was lucid enough to admit all this crap.

    I suppose she just needs to murder her intruder. I mean, why not? She won’t get in trouble for it and it’ll stop the break-ins. Obvious solution is obvious.

  987. Redhead says:

    I love how she adds in the first statement that she is “petrified to post” because of those “bloggers” who might stalk her.

    As in another situation that presented itself last week, “stalking” isn’t finding public webpages you’ve already linked us to.

    But seriously, being scared of us and then writing a super idiotic post on how you’re psychotic and wanna murder someone who broke into your house- does she think nobody will comment on that?

    Sounds to me that she is bragging (once again, oh how she loves to brag) that a DR diagnosed her as psychotic.

  988. eeek says:

    RM is just pitiful, she’s got a sad life where scariness gives people power. And even if you’re crazy, it’s umm, far from that simple to get out of murder.

    And geez, demon lady. I agree that she either needs help or is a big ol’ troll. People should not be dismissing the idea of PPP, halucinations DO make more logical sense than a demon in her room, I mean dontcha THINK? I hope very much for everyone’s sake that she’s just a big ol troll. I hope there is no baby sleeping on a nightstand in a carseat, I hope she has made every one of those 114 posts in preparation of this moment where she could explode in drama.

    And smartassmama- somehow I missed your first line of that set of posts where you were quoting that, and OMG you sounded crazy, I was so glad when I re-read and figured it out, lol!

  989. smartassmama says:

    Yeah. :bagonhead: I had the page open on my phone after the two posts were edited. So I tried to copy+paste for posterity. FAIL.

  990. Redhead says:

    I’m not sure if she even has a child. Looking through the military forum, she stopped posting preggers pics at 10 weeks (when you really can’t even tell someone is pregnant anyway).. and never posted one of her “son” as far as I can tell.

    There’s also a posting saying she was pregnant with a girl, but not sure.. and she had a boy. Not to say it can’t happen, but with all the other stuff I see, I’m thinking she is just a major troll.

  991. smartassmama says:

    She sounds like she might be more than a troll honestly.
    Like, borderline one of those people who makes up elaborate pregnancy and baby stories, but no one ever sees evidence. I don’t think she’d steal a baby (yet), because she probably hasn’t brought her delusions into real life yet. But she seems pretty bat shit crazy, if you throw in all her accounts and non-matching stories.

    You can’t show a picture of a baby with a scratched back if there are no scratches. You really can’t if there is no baby to scratch.

  992. Sissy Hankshaw says:

    That rebelsmama woman, holy crap. So ya think she’s sending a message mentioning the “bloggers” then that she’s psychotic and could get away with murder?

  993. Redhead says:

    NO Sissy!! It is a confessions thread and we shouldn’t JUDGE! Aggh!!

  994. smartassmama says:

    OH NOEZ!
    Wut if she comes ta git mee!?! I’ll have to look up some of my friends of different ethnic backgrounds and we can sing Kumbaya in my front yard when she and ole Billy get here.

  995. Just Peachy says:

    Dear RebelsMommy,
    Considering what a piece of white trash we have already discovered you are, did you really think it was smart admit that you are psychotic and could technically get away with murder? Especially on a public forum? Are you really that stupid?

  996. smartassmama says:

    This is going to sound so left field. But I was waiting for a time when she was already being discussed.

    A couple weeks ago, feeding the bebe, I was bored on my ipod. So I was making mental fun of some of the weird craigslist ads around here (after seeing that thread about it, I had to). There was an ad for live cam girls or something, under a heading of something like, “Work from home! Earn hundreds!” etc. In the ad it mentions calling Billy, and a phone number. The phone number comes up as near them. ROFL. He’s her net-pimp.

  997. Redhead says:

    Well she did say he won’t leave mommy’s house to get a real job. What you said makes sense.

    RebelsMommy has some sort of intelligence, because she can at least type correctly and noes hal to spel. So why, why why why is she still living with the douchebag DH and his douchebag fam?
    She obviously either enjoys her life there as racist whitetrash, or is some sort of masochist. But given both those choices, I don’t think she is capable of caring for and nurturing a child, at all.. and I feel so sorry for that precious little boy.

  998. Incognizable says:

    Quick, someone get a screenshot of her psychotic excuse post, so when her murder trial comes up she can’t plead insane, since she was/ is clearly capable of knowing the consequences of her actions :O)

  999. smartassmama says:

    1002 – Amen. What a, a, I don’t even know what to call her anymore.

    961 – I would love to see the twat trifecta between those three. I think I would actually side with F. I know, that sounds weird from me, or anyone here, but at least there’s comfort in the crazy that you know. We don’t even know how crazy Kelsey/Erin or Jenelle are, because they won’t come show us their crazy. And even F said that Kelsey/Erin is crazy.

    And I didn’t know that Suicide Girls was a public forum-group thing now. I heard about them on HBO Real Sex years ago, and it was interesting. The whole pinup look and lifestyle is pretty cool, and the whole piercing thing intrigues me. I’m just too straight-laced for it (DH calls me a goody-two-shoes).
    And I think she caught wind that someone linked it here. It’s private.

  1000. smartassmama says:

    That’s crazy. I didn’t know that I could use crazy so many times in one post.

  1001. zamgrawrz says:

    RM is such an idiot. Wow.

    And yeah, if you’re psychotic, kill someone, guess what? They aren’t going to set you lose. You might not go to jail but frankly, I’d prefer that to spending the rest of my life in a mental institution.

    And I think she meant she was like a virgin everytime…you know, crying afterwards and hating herself for giving it up? (Ok, that was a total generalization, lol…I know not everyone feels like that, heck, I didn’t. But its funny. Maybe. I think I need some coffee.) Not sure how a cesarean effects that though….

  1002. Just Peachy says:

    So by her assumption all of us who have ever given birth must have the grand canyon for a vag huh? Thats funny cus (and tmi but I’m in a funny mood today) I always brag to dh how awesome it is I had 3 kids vaginally but as I jokingly put it “that shits tight yo!”

  1003. smartassmama says:

    And eracheld just got a sweet pm. She agreed with Bethany about the truce making, send a pm if you have a problem. Yet she aired her grief as a post. So I answered her. ๐Ÿ™‚

  1004. zamgrawrz says:

    No really, my fiance was rather promiscuous as a teen (he’s cute and male, what can I say? lol) and he says I’m great. And I’ve had 4 kids come out of there. On a TMI note too-I really can’t feel any difference between now and before I had kids when I feel around up there, except now its sorta…bumpy? Ridgy? I dunno. But I’d imagine thats a bonus, not a negative thing. lol

  1005. zamgrawrz says:

    Kegels ftw.

  1006. Redhead says:

    1007, what’d you say?!

  1007. smartassmama says:

    1006 – funny you say that! Cause I’ve had the same discussion with my DH. And I’m pretty blunt too, 2 huge babies with huge noggins, and somedays it does hurt. My vag is just find, tyvm. And like she was a virgin until 19? Biotch please.

  1008. Sissy Hankshaw says:

    We need a new thread. I’m getting carpal tunnel trying to keep up on my phone.

  1009. mom2js says:

    OK, I’m a long time lurker and this is my first post. I am very disturbed by the the demon thread and I think those who are feeding into this mamas fears are going to make this worse. A quick google search will find many infant deaths whose parents had similar claims one being a recent one where the mother did awful things to her baby, and even tried to get help but the doctor dismissed it. This sounds like a case for child protective services, no matter what is going on the baby is in danger.

    And on that note, I really do hope that since that girl is newish, only about 100 posts, she is a troll, but nobody really knows…

  1010. Redhead says:

    Mrs Rusty has to jump in confessions again and pee her pants for everyone to see… lovely.

  1011. Myself says:

    I was gonna say something, I’ve just got to remember what it was.

    Oh yeah, my uncle told me best defense is to get a gun and aim for center body mass and aim to kill. He is a police officer and I’m telling you, someone enters my house in the middle of the night better be expecting to get killed.

  1012. zamgrawrz says:


    Jk…I can’t even be around smoke, my lungs get all RAWRMADFASE.

  1013. smartassmama says:

    Now all RM has to do is convince someone to come to her house late at night. I’m not signing up.

    And that was about the dumbest, stupidest, most ridiculous thing I’ve read all week. I just sat slack jawed, shaking my head while reading her whole post. What a dumb fucking twit. Someone should cunt punch her. But lube your fist first – shees uh virgin.

    I’m glad someone got a screen shot of that (or I hope they did). When we see a news report of some dumb girl with shitty tattoos going apeshit on her racially diverse neighbors, somebody’s got proof that it wasn’t because she’s just unstable. Premeditation!

  1014. zamgrawrz says:

    1014-someone tried to break into my house when I was 17 and my mom was gone. Without even thinking, I went to the kitchen and grabbed a butcher knife and opened the front door. I had nothing but undies on and my dog, a dalmation, was going psycho.

    The guy ran away, rofl. I think some almost naked chic wielding a butcher knife with a psycho dog standing next to her was just too much. I probably looked totally crazy.

    Now my fiance can be the crazy looking one. ๐Ÿ™‚

  1015. smartassmama says:

    Mrs. Rusty – 3. I deleted my thread do to the fact that some people decided to attack my confession and would appreciate if you all would stop attacking me and calling em judgmental.

    I call bullshit. She deleted the post and campaigned HARD to get others to, also, to try and remove evidence of being a public Ahole, so that she won’t end up on a Do Not BST list, or ignore list.

  1016. zamgrawrz says:

    lolshittytattoos. I had totally forgotten about that.

    Its so bad, my guy bought a tattoo kit a few months ago and he’s done 3 on me since then and I’ve done 5 on him and filled in his leg tattoo. ITS NOT HARD. Seriously. The only one that looks kind of bad is on the top of my foot and thats my fault-it friggin hurt so much I asked him to stop. We’re going to keep touching it up slowly…

    Anyway, I don’t get how someone can be so.bad. Can I post pics on here? I’ll totally post a pic of my leg tat he did. His second tattoo ever and I โค it. ๐Ÿ™‚

  1017. Redhead says:

    If someone breaks in my house and is threatening me, I see nothing wrong in defending myself or my family.
    But RMs post saying she can legally get away with murder and then following that with the tase-of-death comment is just admitting she is thinking about it already.

  1018. Kirsty says:

    I’d be really interested in knowing what kind of “psychosis” she’s been diagnosed with. The very awareness of psychoses negates it as a defence. Handy she posted it in confessions so no one can call her out on it.

  1019. Redhead says:

    I’m gonna screen shot ChrisNsteph’s post for when I trollishly bring up wanting to murder someone and get a strike for it.

  1020. Just Peachy says:

    Nothing wrong with the chronic IMO but I was trying to be fair to other people who may have violated the TOS.
    I think they should be done with RM for realz yo. She’s just all kinds of fucked up

  1021. Redhead says:

    1023- Apparently there are no TOS when posting in the confessions thread. :/

  1022. imasupernova says:

    1003 – It is private unless you get to this link…

  1023. magpiedpiper says:


    Crap, that should have had a warning, 1025. Thanks. Barf

  1024. dundundun says:

    1025, Apparently not.

    EUGH, it makes me slap happy.

  1025. Redhead says:

    nooo!! my poor eyes!

  1026. naturalmamadot says:

    haha I love the little “im private” thing at the top and you cant see her OTHER pics unless you are her friend, but im pretty sure the most important thing TO HIDE would be your fucking vag. hahaha shes so dumb its amusing.