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You can still scam people. Shame on you Nikkiof5

06-03-2010, 01:20 PM #1
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Unhappy Someone stole from me.

I sold four skeins of Mosaic Moon on Spots a few months back. The mama requested priority shipping. Total was around $104. While my husband, who sends out most of my packages, forgot to send it that way, it does not confer upon the package insurance, and my listing read that unless you purchased insurance, I am not responsible for a package once it leaves my hands.

So she claimed to not have received the package. We spent two weeks going back and forth with the “nothing here yet” thing, “checked with my post office again” yada yada. So I was about to issue her a full refund when my postal worker made it clear to me that priority doesn’t insure the package anyway, only gets it there a day or two faster. Priority is not insurance. And of course, the disclaimer in my listing. So when I emailed her about this, I said, “Look, it sucks for both of us that this happened, and I feel bad. How do you feel about splitting the loss, hence a refund of $52?” She jumped on it. Never once made a peep about it. And I waited to refund another 4 days maybe, and she kept emailing, “Just wanted to check and make sure you got my email. I’m fine with the $54. My PP is….” I felt a tiny nagging suspicion in the back of my mind, but really, I just didn’t think anyone could be that devious. I’m a mama of 7 kids, and she knew that. Who would rip me off? My husband was unemployed!

So last night I’m looking through Spots, and sure enough, there she is, selling two of the four skeins of MY freakin’ yarn, the very yarn I sold her, that she said she didn’t receive! I felt absolutely sick to my stomach. Sick. Even now as I type, I feel just absolute disgust, my stomach gets knots.

I messaged the mods on HC, but I really don’t know what to do or if I have any recourse. The funny thing is, with all the sending and receiving of packages that I’ve done over the years, I have never once lost a package, on either end, and almost never get insurance. At least my faith in the postal system has been restored. My faith in the HC community however, has taken a serious hit. Who are these people? Why would you steal from a mom, I just can’t understand it. How can she even look her kids in the face? Shame.

So I got some advice from a friend who frequents both HC and DS, and she recommended I post the story here. I am never on DS. I’m mostly an HCer, and I don’t have any more littles in cloth, so I spend a lot more of my time on Ravelry. I have perfect feedback everywhere. What can I do? What should I do?

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Re: Someone stole from me.

Ugh. I feel sick to my stomach you guys. Someone just contacted me with some…well, proof. Honestly…over $50? Why would you steal from someone, totally sacrifice your morals, your standing with God, your integrity, over $50? Ya know, some people would find certain practices questionable for a MILLION dollars….so fifty?? Fifty bucks??? My husband was unemployed at that time you guys. We were struggling. Seven kids. No unemployment because my husband was an auto worker and had already collected his limit in the last year and a half, on and off with work. We had just gone through my oldest son’s second open heart surgery in October. What is wrong with her?
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Re: Someone stole from me.

Wow, you guys are throwing around acronyms I don’t know! LOL CDN? JAR?

I really wish I could copy and paste the last three emails she just sent me. She’s freakin’ crazy, y’all. In the span of 15 minutes, she sent me three emails. The first two were denial, how dare you, I know legal people too, yada yada. She also pulled the listing, of course, and said she was taking down her photobucket account. Said she should’ve known I would think this, and that I must just have a general distrust of people. ROFL! The third one was: just talked to my dh, he’s gonna go check the PO’s lost and found cuz we haven’t checked in months (this was JUST early March, and does a PO HAVE a lost and found for packages??), but we decided since this yarn was gifted to me by a friend, I’m just gonna go ahead and send you the $50, and hopefully the yarn will be sitting in the PO right now and neither of us will be out anything. What’s your PP addy?

I mean……….ugh……..I just have no words. Just freakin’ BEYOND disgusted. She did pull the listing, but I did save her yarn pics to my computer, so those are still there. She still has other stuff for sale on HC too, which freaks me out for other people. I mean, even if I was her first scam, she’s lost all trustworthiness with the community. Period. She should be outed. Are there any mods even paying attention to this? I can send the emails and pics and everything to anyone who needs to view this to confirm it as a theft.

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Re: Someone stole from me.

Ah, so heres the trash talking…

I am the mam Sara is talking about.

I am not ‘crazy ya’ll’

Ive been on here a LONG time and have good repore and FB with most everyone. As well as good FB on HC.

Im not going to sit here and defend myself since It obviously does not matter to any of you.

I had, as someone said, other skeins of this yarn. Sara’s never arrived. We are now looking for it at a neighbors house where the PM said it may have been delivered a few weeks ago.

But again, I am not going to bother all you with that, since you’ve all obviously made up your mind and are quick to believe without hearing both sides. Great community of mama’s here. I would think the reputation would stand for something. But no, its more fun to believe the worst about someone.

Sara might want to inform everyone that the situation has been remedied and hopefully her yarn is at my neighbors house. But since nobody seems to care, and just wants to believe the worst of mr, you will never know.

Please stop sending me nasty emails and ‘hate’ emails. Whoever is doing so, grow up. And if it makes you feel better to threaten me, so be it. I dont have to read the emails.


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  1. Flat Stainley says:

    So, is Nikkof5 going to come here and explain herself? Somebody go link her!

  2. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    Copy + Pasting my relevant post from the previous thread:

    Okay, what is the time zone on DS? Because she said in that post that they’re “Looking for it at a neighbor’s house,” but at 2:41pmEST, she wrote in her email to me,

    “Her yarn, is in fact sitting at my neighbors house. Has been for months. Oh wait, would you like pictures or would you rather just steal them from my photobucket?”

  3. DSDM2 says:

    She posted her post at 3:09 EST on DS.

  4. Redhead says:

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    Re: Someone stole from me.
    Originally Posted by TangerineFlamingo View Post
    I find it strange you just went looking for the yarn at your neighbors.. amongst other things in your story that make me go..

    lol. I didnt.

    Hubby went to the PO and the PM said it MAY have been delivered to a certain house in my neighborhood weeks ago.

    But again, that is for Sara to tell

    Im done here.


    Mama to 9

  5. Flat Stainley says:

    She’s done here?! I think I would want to explain myself, not get all huffy that I’d been judged by others…

  6. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    3- So she lied to me in her email. Those were her exact words to me. I can take a screenshot for proof, if anyone cares to see that one.
    For the record, I am not one of the people she claims is “threatening” her and sending her “hate mail.” Yes, I told her she was a thief, her scam had been found out, and she was making blacklists across the CDing communities.

  7. DSDM2 says:

    She lied to you, or lied to the moms. Either way, she is a liar.

  8. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    7- True. My guess is both were lies. She’s had the yarn all along, and is making up this story as she goes, hence the crossing facts.

  9. Redhead says:

    6- Post the screen shot!

  10. DSDM2 says:

    Mine too.

  11. Sara says:

    If she says my yarn is sitting at the neighbor’s house, then she should have four skeins of it to take pics of, plus the two she was just trying to sell. We should see a pic of 6 skeins then. ?

    You guys, I described the subtle similarities I found when comparing our two yarn pics that made me feel absolutely sure. And I think most decent people take serious pause before they say, “Yup, I’m sure. She stole from me.” Which I did.

    She emailed me a story about the PO today too which I know to be false because I SPOKE to her PO today. The fact that she is contriving such an elaborate story is…..sad, and disturbing.

  12. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    The SS:

    The only thing I altered was to wipe off my email address in two spots.

    11- I agree. It’s a laughable coincidence that she even put the skeins, one above the other, in the same order and similar place as the OP’s months-old photos.

  13. amessymama says:

    Sara-They all do that when they get caught.

    I’m really sorry she did this to you! But I’m glad you are letting people know.

    Every time someone sends me something without DC, I always think how glad I am that it was sent to me and not someone who would claim it missing. I always debate with myself whether I should PM the seller and let them know they should get DC. I usually don’t, but I think I will from now on. I’ve even got things from WAHMs with no DC.

  14. mindy says:

    Why would the PO suddenly be sure that the yarn is sitting at her neighbors house?

  15. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    Somebody, anybody, before people suddenly realizing who it is, freak out and think Sara is lying, post on that thread (before it goes poof) that there are screen shots proving that she’s lying.

  16. Flat Stainley says:

    Clarify the connection of the screen shots to the lies for us again, pretty please?

  17. zamgrawrz says:

    Wow, that is so freaking obviously the same yarn. Really, what are the chances of that strand being the exact same colors and sticking out in the exact same place? Come on now…

    On a side note, I hope your little guys are doing ok! I noticed the hospital pics, I can’t imagine going through that.

  18. KESMom says:

    This site should be required reading for anyone who buys on DS or HC/Spots. Not just because it’s entertaining, but also because it can help newbs avoid getting scammed.

  19. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    17- In regards to MY SS, at 2:41EST, she said that the skeins WERE at her neighbors house, and had been for months. Then, at 3:09EST, she states on DS that they *might* be there, because her PO says they were delivered there. Either the yarn is there, or it’s not. She told ME it was.
    Suddenly, the PO remembers it was delivered to the wrong address? No. All the PO has for tracking is the zip code to which things are delivered, not a house number.

  20. Redhead says:

    20, I already asked her about that! No response, yet.. haha 🙂

  21. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    21- I saw that. LOL. I doubt she’ll respond, as I wrote the same thing back to her in response to her email, and she’s ignoring me…. though to her credit she said she wasn’t opening any more emails from the HC listing.

  22. zamgrawrz says:

    Oooo and she’s a spinner….CAN WE BE FRIENDS?? 😀 lol

  23. Sara says:

    You guys, wow. You weren’t kidding when you said drama. Crazy.

    I’ve got to get dinner on the table and we have church tonight. I will be back this evening, 9ish ET, and see what’s what. I thank all you cool mamas for your support and help here. I wish I hadn’t needed it but it’s nice to see how you band together. Much props.

    And in all seriousness, I am praying for N and her family.

  24. Sara says:

    23-LOL! We can def hang!

  25. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    24- I hunted you down on Rav. We need to chat, because we might be neighbors. 😉

  26. Leslie says:

    I’m glad she outed herself (which was incredibly dumb) because I doubt I would have figured out who she was, and could have possibly bought from her in the future. Good job ladies!

  27. Sara says:

    18-Whoops, forgot to respond. That’s the same guy. The old pics you see of my baby boy post-op are my oldest Asher, who is 12 now. And you see him as he is now in the second set of post-op pics, after his second open-heart surgery last October. He’s doing well, thank you. I keep all my pics in my Kodak albums online, and then upload certain ones to PB to post to Ravelry, for whatever reasons. Those surgery pics were to one of my Rav groups, who I’ve become good friends with (even met one last weekend!), to give praise and thanks for the success and miracle of my son’s surgeries. He has multiple heart/pulmonary vein defects, he’s asplenic (no spleen, born that way), and heterotaxic (organs–stomach, liver–are flip-flopped).

    Anyway, off I go!

  28. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    27- My cousin was born with Hypoplastic Left Heart Syndrome, among other similar defects. He lives with Jesus and the angels now. I’m so happy for your son. ❤
    …And happy you got your money back. 🙂 Like I said, I rarely jump on the bandwagon, but when the facts are obvious and there's proof, I'm happy to stand up for people and make a fuss. LOL

  29. zamgrawrz says:

    Oh wow, thats amazing. Poor guy, I’m glad he’s doing well!

    Totally not the same, but my former mother in law has 3 kidneys.

  30. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    29- THREE kidneys? Lucky. DH was born with only one. Maybe your exMIL will give one away… 😉 JK

  31. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    Back to the original topic:
    Nicole just emailed me again. Said, “I said it had been at the PO for months.” LMFBO. Anyone can look at the screenshot I already posted to see that she plainly says, “Her yarn, is in fact sitting at my neighbors house. Has been for months.”
    Chalking up another lie. I’m shocked that she had the balls (or just lack of common sense) to see the email she wrote quoted below in the email, that she actually said something entirely different…..

  32. zamgrawrz says:

    Rofl, wow. I think my 4 year old is a better lier. Come on now, you don’t keep changing your story. >.< And I know if someone was trying to out me and I was trying defend myself-whether I stole it or not-I'd be very very cautious with how I was putting things. Heck, I do that just with day to day posts. But to keep saying different things…ugh….

    Maybe having triplet babies made her mind go? I think I'd be going nuts. Haha. Doesn't someone else have triplets on here?? Did you lose sanity temporarily? lol

  33. ~*~Momma~*~ says:

    oh lordy! what a mess!

  34. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    Screen shot of the last email(as well as my response to the email in the previous):
    I wrote back and told her she just tripped over he own lies, and to read down the page in the quoted emails to see that for herself.

  35. DeviateFromTheNorm says:
    Somebody post and tell Gizmo that Sara has screenshots of emails from Morwenna, saying she DID NOT die that much of that colorway on that particular base, so there is proof that her excuse there was a lie.

  36. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    *dye. Sorry.

  37. zamgrawrz says:

    Done 😀

  38. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    BWahahahahaha- I know who you are now. 😛

  39. Flat Stainley says:

    Nikkiof5 has changed her avi pic. I guess she doesn’t want the sweet pic of her triplets representing her scammery here on the drama blog.

  40. Flat Stainley says:

    Strange how she can take the time to do that, but she can’t come back to the thread to defend her scammish ways.

  41. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    41- Indeed. After all, she’s the one who said that scammers run and hide, and that’s why SHE was there and telling her side.

  42. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    Oh, I *WISH* DS was that proactive when people are proven to be scamming. 😕

  43. Flat Stainley says:

    43-Me too. Her feedback has a neutral and a negative in it, too. One item not as described (said it was new and it arrived stained) the other needed refunding and that didn’t happen for a whole month.

  44. Flat Stainley says:

    Where is she? Not denying that pic is hers either.

  45. Flat Stainley says:

    I laugh seeing that ‘daring’ mood enhancer on Tangerine Flamingo’s Avi. I haven’t seen that since the last scammer who was outed just before Cwise.

  46. ladylili says:

    Ya know this could all have been avoided my simply getting a DC.

  47. Flat Stainley says:

    That’s so true.

  48. Sala says:

    Yes, it’s true it could have been avoided with a DC but seller had her hubby take it to the post office. I have my husband take my stuff to the post office but send my things with postage printed and affixed. I if I just gave him an address, he’d probably forget that I asked him to get DC – it doesn’t get repeated ad nauseum in his forums so why would he even think of it. I know I never mailed stuff with a D.C. before I joined DS. So my stuff would get mailed off, maybe first class instead of priority, almost certainly not D.C.

  49. Leslie says:

    49 – That is so true. My DH barely gets to the PO on the day I give him the package, let alone remember what kind of mailer to get to put it in, buying dc, remembering where I wrote down the address. And, prior to DS I didn’t ever mail anything, so I was totally clueless. Unfortunately it takes people getting burned before they figure things out sometimes.

  50. organicmomma says:

    DANG!! I know this is the drama of diaperswappers, but check out these biznitches gangin’ up on me cause i used a couple commas. It was late, I was posting quickly and nodding off. They just keep going at me…boo hoo…ha

  51. Sala says:

    H2BM has swooped down. It will go poof soon, I think. Get yer screenshots right now!

  52. Leslie says:

    I couldn’t tell if the comment from the mod was “concerned” as in getting the scammer taken care of or “concerned” about the drama.

  53. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    51- I saw that. Judging by (most of) the people commenting, they were only teasing. I laughed when I read it because I thought they were just picking on you. 🙂

  54. Sala says:

    Same difference, no? Make the drama go away and then they don’t have to acknowledge or do anything about the scammer.

  55. zamgrawrz says:

    39-I don’t hide it, lol. In that last thread people were commenting on my kids names and I clarified how they were pronounced. Since they’re weird names. 😛

    And you tell em, jeeze…I understand talking about someone when they have absolute fail grammar and spelling continuously but really, we all have our moments. LIke me, I like to use extra periods a lot. I DONT KNOW WHY…(period) (period) (period)

  56. zamgrawrz says:

    And omg, ew…my fiance is eating a peanut butter and MAYO sandwich. *barf*

  57. melmelly says:

    When I have sold something, I always get DC, unless it is out of the country. If I send my husband with the stuff to the PO, I always give him a list of how I want each pkg sent, and to get DC, and to make sure he gives me all the receipts when he gets home. Just a good habit to get into if you are having your DH send stuff off for you.

    I am glad that Sara got her money back. And I can’t believe how stupid Nikkiof5 was to post pictures, knowing that Sara had pics in PB, of the exact same stuff. Glad she failed at scamming!

  58. Redhead says:

    So I wonder who PMed H2BAM? Someone siding with Nikki or Sara?

  59. Redhead says:

    46, with Cwise, it was “cynical”. 🙂

  60. Sala says:

    51 – I’m afraid I thought it was funny, too. People are very fond of their big girl pinties there and so there’s a lot more teasing than on DS (in general) where people tend to be a lot more careful lest they be construed as being mean. Because it’s all rainbows and crap at DS and no one ever scams and no one ever gets outright pissy without stuff getting deleted…

    They didn’t take into account that you are a newbie by post count and may not be familiar with the culture. While I could totally follow your original post, they might have taken it a little further than I would have with a new person. It would hardly have been looked askance by someone with a 1000 posts under her belt because she’d have seen it happen all the time (to other people at least).

  61. organicmomma says:

    My problem is they lowered my rep to 0. I don’t even know how that works, or how they did it. Or how to fix it. First maaaybe it was picking, but still multi-picking and i wasn’t in the mood. I was just like sheesh. I use extra periods a lot also….(period) (period) (period) ha..

  62. organicmomma says:

    I have quite a sense of humor, but i was not amused. Esp about the rep thing.

  63. organicmomma says:

    Also, my (period) comments were supposed to be funny too, but i just got bashed. Pulling out zombie guns and crap. Someone wrote me and said drop the attitude, so I think it was just supposed to be funny. Maybe only to them.

  64. MotherMoonPads says:

    #63, I think they might have been confused on why you brought that up in an old thread too?

  65. zamgrawrz says:

    I dunno, CDN confuses me, as I can’t see most of the main subjects and stuff. It only shows me a few things. And I really can’t post anything else in those few things to up my post count, if thats the problem? But if someone links it, I can see. Blarg. I gave up.

  66. organicmomma says:

    65-Like i said, it was late and I was tired. I was just wondering how someone could delete a pp account with open issues because of my experience with it. I didn’t see that it was old. The felishoo one over there never ends, so, I don’t know.

  67. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    64- It WAS funny. Mel’s pulling out the zombie guns was a way to shut people up. It’s just how they roll around there. When they’re trying to distract people, so to speak, they’ll start posting pictures of LOLcats, The Hoff, etc. Long-time members know what it means. They’re trying to change the subject with the pictures.

  68. organicmomma says:

    thanks for explaining. But for someone that doesn’t know, and all the LOL’s afterwards, and the lose the attitude message? Just didn’t seem that way. But thank you for the info….(lots of periods) LOL!

  69. organicmomma says:

    Oh, and the “don’t feed the troll”? Anywho…back to the person at hand…*pulls out zombie gun and picture of cat*

  70. Redhead says:

    OM, your rep score is 55741 on my screen.

  71. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    71- It’s cuz I gots some madd rep skillz and took care of the problem. 😛

  72. organicmomma says:

    ya, but now they are all lowering it together.

  73. coffeehoar says:

    I was going to go fix the rep, too. 😉 Although I totally heard the teasing, it was prob. too soon for a newb. I thought your response was spot on, organicmomma. Spell it out for ’em, lol! Don’t leave CDN quite yet… the troll comment was out of line. There’s a reason it now says “please don’t kick the babies” for posters with counts under 100. Members can be protective of places they love and forget to give new members a chance.

  74. organicmomma says:

    I went there because it wasn’t all butterflies like DS tries to be…I love saying what i think, teasing and being “bitchy” hence why i’m here….But, didn’t expect that…seems that can tease, but can’t take it, and Rocket Queen is pissing me the f off…

  75. cdnation says:

    #66, sounds like you’re in lurker. You need to send me a message of your username and I can fix that for you.

  76. melmelly says:

    organicmomma, are you going to post in the gen chat post that Mel created? I just posted in there sticking up for you.

  77. coffeehoar says:

    Organicmomma, I promise, promise, promise it’s not all like that. I’m not even a big member there, and I appreciate the atmosphere there, mostly because it changes with the weather, moon phases, and the amount of meds we all decide to take.

    It sounds like, for whatever reason, you and Jessi are butting heads. Please (please) walk away from that thread and start over there. Most people probably have no clue that The Great Punctuation Apocalypse is even happening and will welcome you. We all have forgot-I-already-took-my-ambien moments of posting… yours just happened to be noticed a little more…

    please? 🙂

  78. melmelly says:

    Is it just me, or is CDN really slow? I haven’t been on in because of the server switch, and it is really dragging and even timing out for me on some threads.

  79. melmelly says:

    Who is bellamama? That bebe in her avi is so stinkin cute! Looks like my baby sister 25 years ago.

  80. coffeehoar says:

    melmelly, it’s fine for me…:shrug:

  81. melmelly says:

    It’s better for me now too. Weird. Figures that I go and post about it here and then it works fine when I switch the tab back over.

  82. organicmomma says:

    78-I posted, and yes it was an “I had already taken my ambien moment”…just not ambien…hahaha…some super a-pam as my sister and I call them…hence the nodding off and extra commas. so, if i’m going to be honest why it happened, then there it is…lol

  83. coffeehoar says:

    I once took an ambien and then realized I needed to order custom trainers. So I ended up ordering like four custom spots of pick-your own and surprise fabrics, not adding fabric choices, and paying for international shipping (even though I’m in Colorado) and generally confusing the snot out of the poor wahm. She was awesome, though, and didn’t run screaming from my order, even though it ended up being half of what I initially hit BIN on.

  84. zamgrawrz says:

    rofl, thats awesome. And your name makes me want Starbucks. Luckily I have two across the street from my house. (Go Seattle!)

  85. coffeehoar says:

    I went to school in Spokane (aka, the “Asshole” of Washington) and that’s where I acquired the taste for coffee. I fell in love with the brand Thomas Hammer’s coffee and have never looked back. In fact, I even developed a small problem with …ahem… scurvy… ahem… by not drinking enough other fluids (or foods, it seems). Massive blush.

  86. organicmomma says:

    84-roflmao…that was so funny! Thanks for the smile! 🙂

  87. kukukachoo says:

    i’m so glad we have a new thread.

  88. organicmomma says:

    I think i may need some a-pam’s now, so please excuse my commas after about 30 minutes….lol

    88-me too

  89. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    78- I agree. OM, it’s a shame you and Jessi are butting heads. She really is an absolute doll.

    80- Isn’t she? She was a congo mate of mine for a while, and we still chat regularly. She’s a sweetheart, and her girls are adorable.

  90. organicmomma says:

    90-idk, everything I say, she has something snarky to say back. I can’t even get onto CDN anymore, it’s too busy…

  91. Rocket says:

    It’s ok. I’m used to being taken completely wrong. Whatevs. I was defending you in the second thread, fwiw.

  92. Rocket says:

    I also tried to rep you something to that effect, but the server issues ated it.

    And when I’m being snarky, it’s a lot more obvious than that. Trust me. I’m just dry all the time.

  93. Sara says:

    Hey guys. I am really so new to this DS thing, so I don’t know what happens when they close a thread there, or what that even means.

    I ordered polymailers, I have a scale, and I plan to ship much better now, meaning with DC. I mailed three packages today and they all got DCed. :o) I really didn’t realize what kind of trouble could come from not doing that, because I trust mamas and the PO. So now I know better. And also, my husband is pretty competent with sending out my packages, and that one went out already packaged here at home by me and very correctly and clearly labeled.

    And I wanted to just share that she emailed me while I was gone to church tonight to apologize. She confessed. She still had a story to it which I didn’t believe, but she said she was ashamed of herself, and I’ll accept that. I think still there’s something wrong with her, b/c I keep getting lies out of her, but whatever. I saw a mama or two saying how well they knew her and trusted her on DS and that’s fine but, this is MY only interaction with her ever, and she stole from me and repeatedly lied to me. So I don’t have the warm fuzzies about it. I forgive her, but I won’t do business with her again, and I don’t care if she had a sweater’s worth of Elliebelly to sell. :o)

  94. Rocket says:

    Sounds like she realized she’d lied in a circle too many times and is trying to do damage control.

  95. smartassmama says:

    I’ll admit, anytime I go there I feel socially dumb. I’m trying to post more there, so I might feel accepted? I guess? I have irl issues with making new friends, too, so it’s a reach for me. But I’m trying. I like the ‘real’ness of CDN as opposed to the ducks & bunnies of DS. I’m just not good as the newbie in a crowd. I should put myself out therr more, I think.

    And Rep confuses me. :hides:

  96. Just Peachy says:

    A sweaters worth of elliebelly? DAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNN LOL.
    Sara if you ship thru paypal you automatically get DC. Plus its cheaper and no risk of hubby messing it up. I send my dh to the PO quite frequently but just to drop off packages and haven’t had any issues yet.

  97. smartassmama says:

    I’m glad she owned her shittiness. 😦

  98. Rocket says:

    96, rep’s pretty meaningless actually. Sort of a semi-private way to send a message to someone about their posts. Positive rep makes your total # go up and negative rep subtracts. Most people rarely neg rep unless someone is being twatariffic.

  99. Flat Stainley says:

    Yeah, there’s no way she could continue to deny it. What a turd tart. At least she gave some sort of truth to you, Sara.
    Some people really have issues like that. I was once friends with a klepto who tried stealing stuff from me and even when I went through her stuff in front of her as part of a confrontation, she kept denying it. Sad.

  100. coffeehoar says:

    I think very few people are (or think they are) in the “in crowd” on CDN. Every time I think I even know who is in the “in crowd” there is a snit and it changes. I’d bet money no one really knows me much there, but I don’t let it bug me.

    You just kinda pretend you know what you are doing, and practice the phrase, “oops, my bad” when someone asks you why you are doing an interpretive dance in the men’s room.

    Sara, fortunately for me, I learned by watching other innocents get burned. It sucks that it even has to happen.

  101. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    Sara, you really need to forward that email to Admin on DS. The Admin who closed your thread said she’d be looking into it. They need to know that she at least some-what admitted to scamming you, so Nikki can be dealt with accordingly. She already has two bad feedbacks, so this would make it 3, which means banning. She cannot continue to scam people.

  102. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    101- I know who you are. I ❤ your yarn and knitting. I do believe we have daughters with the same name as well. 😉

  103. Redhead says:

    Yes, please, Sara- forward the msg to the admin. It’s great that you’re being forgiving :), but we have seen this far too often and she does need to be banned.

  104. Redhead says:

    I was expecting to come home to a strike msg .. still not a one.

  105. Rocket says:

    So wait, is Nikki going to send your yarn back or at least the money? Or she’s just apologizing and running off with the goods?

  106. Redhead says:

    She sent the refund back, as far as I know. She just lied about most everything.

  107. mindy says:

    Why do people keep saying she will/might get banned on DS? the transaction wasn’t through DS, right?
    Since when did they start doing anything about things off site? They used to say if it was off-site then keep it away from there.

  108. coffeehoar says:

    103~ Aww, thanks! Although I don’t dye, but I’ll take the credit for it anyway.

  109. Redhead says:

    Recently, DS banned another scammer (Cwise87) for scamming another board & lying about her info on DS.

  110. bittymomma says:

    CDN is def. cliquish, but really, what site isn’t? Did I spell “cliquish” right? Lol. I don’t mind though. There’s valuable info, smart people, and I know that if I do get scammed on there, it will be taken care of and not swept under the rug. And by “cliquish” i mean there’s a lot of inside jokes and stuff that when you ask, people just kind of poke fun and get mysterious and don’t explain. I think a lot of people there are really really cautious, which I like.

    Dont’ worry so much about “rep” either mama. I’ve got a whole bunch of rep from people liking my avi, and a few rep points where people have actually replied to me via rep and not “reply.” I don’t think it’s anything important.

  111. Rocket says:

    There’s actually a long ass thread explaining a lot of the inside jokes in one of the forums… CDN Encyclopedia, maybe…?

  112. Sara says:

    Is an administrator on DS Happy2BaMommy? Who do I look for to give that info to?

  113. Redhead says:

    Yes, you can send it to Happy2BaMommy (H2BAM) 🙂

  114. zamgrawrz says:

    Bwahaha she knew she was busted. Its sad that she still just won’t come out and tell the WHOLE truth though. Ugh.

    86-I’ve been to Spokane twice, on the way to Idaho, lol. I wouldn’t want to live there….though the seasons are cool. I like snow. And heat. Stupid Seattle only has one season. Rain. (yes, that’s a season. :P)

    I’m moving to South Carolina in a few years. Yay for REAL summers. Hehe.

  115. drearina says:

    #84 Hoooooly crap that made me laugh. Everytime I take an ambien I wind up doing wacky shit before I go to bed and have no recollection of it.

  116. Sara says:

    Well I sent her a copy of the last email, but I don’t know what she’ll do with it. Nicole also just let me know that she is leaving DS so I wouldn’t ‘have to worry about her there again.’ But still, she’s selling stuff on HC, and HC is where I did business with her. I have been sending the emails to Karen there, and we’ll see what she comes up with. I get the feeling she’s off for the weekend or something.

    I’m not out for blood here folks. I’m gonna leave it at HC and DS. I don’t like the position this puts me in. It makes me feel vindictive and cruel, and I’m not either of those. Her emails are more and more…just….sad, pathetic. I feel like I’m kicking someone while she’s down and I don’t do that. While I understand protecting anyone else who may have this happen again, she did have a lot of good feedback, and I think after this whole ordeal, she’d have to be stupid or crazy to try it again. I think she’s sufficiently shamed. Plus HC and DS are the big spots, aren’t they? Is she even on the other sites you guys have mentioned?

    She asked me to ask whoever’s sending her the nasty emails to stop. I told her I have no idea who it is or how I’m to do that, when they closed the thread.

    Anyway. I’m gonna go hang with my husband and knit. I could’ve finished all of my UFOs by now with all the time I’ve spent on this issue.

  117. reallytiredmommy says:

    84 My hubby would like you to know that you caused him to blow milk out his nose with the international shipping thing.
    I still cant figure out how to rep anyone on cdn.

  118. bittymomma says:

    I think you actually click on the little green/red rep box thingy? I’ve never actually done it back, heh

  119. Sala says:

    There’s a little thing up in the top corner of each person’s post, between the post number and the box with exclamation point (latter for reporting posts) that looks like a little scale on mine. Click that, the rep screen comes up.

  120. Sala says:

    And I didn’t figure the rep thing out all by myself in case anyone feels chagrined, I had to be told.

    There’s no way that Nikki was going to be able to lie her way out of this scam. The photos don’t lie. That skein in each pic was identical, regardless of one being photographed flipped around in the other photo. I personally would do the Juicy Apple report, etc., though. Just because she’s only been caught once doesn’t mean she won’t try again. She might try something smarter next time. She might think out her story first, for one.

    I just don’t get why someone with generally good feedback chooses to risk it all over $100 of yarn. Pretty yarn to be sure, but yarn. I mean, it’s just so stupid and lame! What was she thinking? Why now? I’d like to think that her circumstances have changed otherwise everyone who’s ever had a transaction with her could have been a delivery confirmation of something similar.

    Sad. But I’m glad she confessed and I hope you get all of your money, Sara.

  121. Sala says:

    a delivery confirmation away from something similar, I meant to say. Duh.

    It’s been a long long day and I don’t even have ambien to blame.

  122. monkey says:


    Rocket Queen is actually one of the sweetest posters over there. Your friend mentioned you’re having a bad week so I thought I’d mention that Jessi is 9 months pregnant with twins, exhausted and having a pretty rough time.

    We’re mostly a really nice bunch… but we do tease and we are definitely more blunt than anything you’ll find on DS.

    Give it a try, respond to Mel’s post in GC.

  123. monkey says:

    Oh, just saw that Rocket had already replied.

  124. Redhead says:

    123- I’m OM’s friend on CDN. 🙂 (sisterencarnacion)

    OM is having a really tough week…now looking like it will be a difficult month. I won’t go into details without her permission, but she could use thoughts, prayers and good vibes her way. 🙂

  125. smartassmama says:

    Can do. Many positive thoughts to you, OM.

  126. zosiasmama says:

    zamgrawrz-you are probably in lurker satus at CDN that is why you can’t see the whole board. Just post a thread in Lurkerville and we will set you free!

    organicmama- I am sorry for your tough week. I wish before you had posted to the Hot Seat thread you would have looked at the last page. If you had you would have seen admins post that Cassie did a fab job of taking care of any problems quickly. So when you posted you brought back a thread that had been dead for months and was one that was totally taken care of. Don’t let the grammar police girls get your goat, it was mostly teasing but some do get their panites a bit far up there and take things too far. I promise that the board as a whole is a wonderful place to be!

    coffehoar- you crack me up I so want to know who you are on CDN!

  127. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    117- She says “people” are sending her hate mail and threatening her. I do believe that’s more lying, because I sent her a couple emails, but also posted screenshots of them (with her responses) here. Nothing nasty or hateful, just factual ‘We’re on to you and have proof, why don’t you stop lying and come clean?’ Yes, I said she was a thief. Perhaps she takes that as ‘name-calling’ or something. If so, then I’ll take it, because the name has been proven factual.

  128. cdmom says:

    you sent emails to the scammer about something that has nothing to do with you? did someone apoint you scammer spokesperson?

  129. try me, i'm new! says:

    OM, I saw your post in the hot seat thread – it had been dead for months, and when i saw it bumped, i was like, oh no, something else happened? Then when i saw it was just some random post bringing the thread back from the dead, and the person that bumped it was a noob, my honest first thought was you were there for drama. i think that’s why others jumped on the grammar more than they normally would, since from the outside, your post looks trollish – bringing long dead drama back to life. i figured it wasn’t my argument and just closed out of the thread. honestly those hot seat threads can be very disturbing, when they’re about a person on the board you think you know and trust, so bumping one like that kinda reopened some wounds. i’m sorry one of your first experiences with the board was negative.

    and i hope i’m being clear, i’ve typed this in three parts in between changing a diaper, taking care of an almost-2-yo who bonked her head, and an almost-5-yo who can’t leave well enough alone.

  130. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    129- LMBO. Clearly you haven’t been following this situation from the start, which occurred long before this thread started. Try being informed before you jump on some one. You’re making yourself look quite ridiculous.

  131. MotherMoonPads says:

    102-does 3 negs mean automatic banning on DS? I can think of at least 2 people with that, that are still around.

  132. DSDM2 says:

    It should. PM a mod or admin with the names and ask. Some have been allowed back after making amends (cough bullshit) but most of the time, they don’t know unless it is reported.

  133. DSDM2 says:

    133 was to MMP

  134. Redhead says:

    cdmom to the rescue again! :sarcasm:

  135. cdmom says:

    i think wahms who get themselves wrapped up in drama that has nothign to do with them look “quite ridiculous”

  136. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    136- Can you even grasp what this website is for? DS doesn’t allow scammers to be outed, so when people have an issue, lots of times they come here. Yes, multiple people, WAHMs included, who have nothing to do with the original transaction, get involved. They find evidence and often help get the situation resolved, all while warning the rest of the CD community about scammers, because DS will not allow it. There are also many instances in which the women here have caught some one screaming, “I’ve been scammed!” actually being the scammer and attempting to sully some one’s good name. If it weren’t for the blog here, there’d be a lot more scamming going on, and if helping innocent people who prove themselves to be trustworthy (like Sara here) makes me ridiculous, well then so be it.

  137. cdmom says:

    talk about it all you want here, sending emails callin g people names, fact or not is a wahm a little too cumfy cozie in the drama

  138. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    Oooooooh nooooooooo, don’t try to OUT me. =-X :insert overreaction emoticon here:
    Yes, name-calling. I said that she was a thief, which she has now even admitted to. So next time some one calls me a wife, a mom, or *gasp* a WAHM, I’ll tell them to cut the name-calling. :rolls eyes:

  139. cdmom says:

    fail meghan

  140. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    Not my name, but good try. 😉

  141. cdmom says:

    fail megan

  142. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    Teeheehee. You’re achieving major vindication here.
    Good job! 99.9% of people here know who I am, and my store as well, so I’m not sure what your goal is. There is a thread on CDN where we all put our DoDS UNs, so people have known who I am on here since I joined CDN, though many knew before then, because I’ve always posted under my given name. But please, continue. This is fun.

  143. iken says:

    I need an LOL cat pic, stat!

  144. Redhead says:

    Cdmom thinks this board is a contest to see who can act the nastiest (really, go find some of her few-and-far between posts). She doesn’t realize that if it weren’t for a lot of drama-mama’s getting involved in these situations, a lot more people would be scammed. That’s OK, she can keep playing her highschool game of who can talk the most trash.. I’ll mail her a tinfoiled trashcan as an award so she’ll think she is somethin’ special. 😀

  145. sissy hankshaw says:

    I for one appreciate coming here and finding out who I should watch out for. There is a place in every group for the outspoken. I don’t consider it liking the drama, i consider it a way to keep most people in line and/or informed.

  146. magpiedpiper says:

    cdmom, you look stupid. Just sayin’
    I think most everyone knows who Deviate is, and if they didn’t it is pretty easy to find out.
    And “drama like this” is about keeping scammers from scamming. Perhaps Nikkiof5 fessed up and refunded because she realized it wasn’t just one person who knew of her scamming, but realized lots of people knew and were willing to call her on it. Hopefully that keeps her from scamming people in the future. If it had been kept quiet, anyone could have been the next to be scammed by her – including you cdmom.
    Whatever your issue is with Deviate, it obviously has nothing to do with this particular issue, so stop trying to act like it does. You just look like an idiot.

  147. JustBecause says:

    I’m not sure if they are needed at this time since Sara did get her money back, but I do have screen shots of Nikkiof5’s HC Spots listing from 6/3. She was selling the skeins for $38. Was this the original listing or the second, reduced one?

    The first screen shot I have is Nikki’s detailed listing with no pics, but price and written description of the yarn. The second screen shot is of the thumbnail pics used on outside of the listing.

    I don’t mind forwarding them to admin at DS and HC especially if it aids their decision in protecting the community: ie: banning. They show my username at HC, so I’d rather not post them unless someone can tell me how to wipe off my name on a MacBook Pro.

    Sara, I can send them to you via Ravelry if you need them.

  148. Sala says:

    Well, H2BAM asked for any and all info to be sent to her last night:

    Re: Someone stole from me.
    I’d like to thank the mama who was concerned enough about all this to send a pm.

    Copying co-admins in on this now.


    It being the weekend,I know the other admins may not all be online to respond in regards to what needs to be done with this thread. I’m making the call to leave it up for now. It probably will be removed,but in the meantime I would like to really get to the bottom of all this. We don’t usually do outings here due to the fact that there are always two sides to every story and things can get really crazy,really fast when all members can chime in on things and mamas start feeling attacked. This is one reason medations are done on private forums.

    Nikki, I’ve seen you around here awhile.We have had fsot transactions,kiddos around the same time,shared diapering info and more.

    I am greatly concerned by what I have seen in this thread.

    Since I came on the DS team,scamming/online theft weighs heavy on my heart. I don’t ever like to see it happen here and am thrilled to have been able to deal with scammers several times by taking the proper channels local to them.Usually,it is new members who scam and I have never had an issue with tracking them down since it angers me they would dare come with the intent of ripping off mamas here.

    I am very saddened by what I have read here today.I realize this transaction did not take place on this site. However, the fact that you are a member here and have been for some time and this is surfacing,does concern me. A lot actually.

    I like the idea earlier a member had about requesting pictures of all the wool. If you are telling the truth then resolving this and clearing your name is going to be easy. Please pm or link me to the pictures. It appears to me from the photos earlier that the wool you tried to sell
    is the same wool you claimed did not arrive. However, I can also see that the pictures you used to list may not have actually been ones you took. I have seen mamas use pictures that do not belong to them a few times.This is really the only explaination I could come up with as to why the skiens appear to be the same.

    If you can’t produce the pictures of all the wool I’m not sure what action will be taken
    without consulting the other administrators,but I’m sure something will be done. I’d say at the very least you will be blocked from using the FSOT here.

    Hopefully you can resolve all this. If you pm me with pics or an update I’d be happy to open this thread in order for you to clear your name.

    If anyone else has any additional information they wish to share in order to shed light on any part of this,please pm.

  149. DSDM2 says:

    Someone needs to PM her about the email admitting it to Sara.

  150. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    150- I thought Sara said she FWD’d the email to her.

  151. cdmom says:

    get involved all you want, a wahm emailing heresay bullshit that shes not involved in makes her look stupid as shit. at least thats what someone said today

  152. Sara says:

    I did send the confession email to H2BM. Any screen shots anyone has taken that helps in their decision-making at HC and DS I’m sure would be appreciated. My computer would not take the stinkin’ screen shot no matter WHAT buttons I pushed along with the prt scrn button! But I have the emails from Nicole, and the pics, and that seems sufficient to me.

    Thanks for everyone’s help, truly. I had a mama start me on the right path to getting this found out, and another mama found Nicole’s Photobucket, which was crucial. And I appreciate the trust that was given, instead of immediate suspicion, since I do not participate on DS (almost never). I’m thankful you heard me out.

    All my best to everyone here.

  153. Sala says:

    cdmom, all I know is you come on here making pointed comments and hateful posts towards ONE person. So frankly if you HAD a valid point about anything else, no one is going to pay any attention to it because you have a bug up your ass about this one person. Your point gets lost because of your venom and your tunnel vision.

    So really, why bother posting here? Deviate knows you don’t like her, we know you don’t like her. We get it. Deviate is a horrible person and we all know now thanks to you. Or something. You post here and just come off looking like a loser and a vindictive bitch.

    This is not Hate on Deviate, it’s the Drama of Diaper Swappers. It’s about showing the seedy underbelly of DS, not pointing out how icky Deviate is.

  154. Just Peachy says:

    cdmom you keep continuing to make yourself look “stupid as shit”. Just STFU already. Its obviously you don’t like what this blog stands for so go somewhere else already. If you cannot see how much good this blog has done in the past 2 years, then you my friend are the one who is “stupid as shit”.

  155. cdmom says:

    ; jen

  156. Just Peachy says:

    Ooooooooooh you know my name. You wanna cookie?

  157. cdmom says:


  158. Just Peachy says:

    I think Snatch came back.

  159. DSDM2 says:

    if she did, it is a new IP.

  160. smartassmama says:

    I guess it’s the 14yo in me, but everytime I see that word, I giggle.

  161. coffeehoar says:

    Ugggh. If Nikki takes a picture at a different angle or reskeins them, then all the hard work up to this point will be undone. Maybe H2BAM is trying to give her an out so she can save face? Well, Sara got her money back and wants to drop it, so I guess it’s all good. Nikki made a really stupid mistake, one that I think she’s lost sleep over. I don’t think she’s a serial scammer, I think she saw an opportunity and against better judgement, took it.

    I’m glad my Ambien moment made a few laugh… it didn’t make the wahm laugh, so at least there’s a little redemption.

    Zoiasmama, it’s not a secret…but you may be disappointed. Kinda like finding out your online lover is the nieghborhood cat lady.

  162. zamgrawrz says:

    161-Me too. Me too. That and the word “twat.” *giggle*

    cdmom-I have yet to see a problem with anyone on here, with the exception of trolls like you. I like Deviate. I like everyone on here. And obviously Sara likes us too. Had someone not stuck their nose in someone elses business, she wouldn’t have been sent to her photobucket, seen the skeins, had proof, gotten her money back, etc. Considering who the scammer was, had she spoken up, most people probably would’ve believed her.

    And ZAMG YOU KNOW PEOPLES NAMES! Here’s a cookie.

  163. coffeehoar says:

    I have to agree. Not sure why cdmom is trying to jump up Deviate’s butt so much.

  164. Flat Stainley says:

    cdmom, there are several WAHMs who posted all throughout that thread, so why the focus on Deviate? It might look shitty for some for a wahm to get involved, but I’d be more willing to spend my $ on one who I know has the integrity to try to protect the community and is invested in keeping it honest.

    Zamg, who do you know? 🙂

  165. Flat Stainley says:

    shitty *to* some.

  166. zamgrawrz says:

    I might be a WAHM soonish. And on this board. *gasp* I’ll never sell anything now!

  167. SweetP says:

    I for one am thankful for the John Walsh’s of the FSOT world.

    Oh, and Sara, are WE neighbors? CNY here too! 🙂

  168. Sissy Hankshaw says:

    I like to think of y’all as the private dicks of the the fsot world.

    That makes me giggle.

  169. BabyBrain says:

    add this mama to your “do not BST with” list:

    She has scammed several DSs mamas out of their money and dipes (trades). She also has a WAHM website:

  170. smartassmama says:

    No. Boo. I liked her. 😦 we’re fellow car seat nerds. 8-s
    I noticed I hadn’t seen her on in a while. That’s terrible. Hope they get their end of trying deal fixed/returned/paid. Sadface.

  171. MotherMoonPads says:

    #171, that surprises me. Are we sure all is well with her?

  172. Flat Stainley says:

    Okay, what is with KaleidoscopEyes’ siggy? When you click the link for her two whole boys, some weird pharmtips thing comes up. :headscratch: and she says her ignore list keeps getting bigger & bigger, but when you click that link, it’s a private profile for myspace?

  173. MotherMoonPads says:

    #165, did she edit it? Because the SS says “Ive had this sitting her for months waiting to find 4 more skeins ( I actually did but they got lost in shipping 😦 ) and it doesnt look like Im going to find them anytime soon. I need 6 skeins to make matching longies for my triplets. So, my loss is your gain. :)”

  174. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    171- Copy and paste for those who cannot see the links? I recognize the ‘Hip Melon’ business name, but cannot put a screen name to it, nor can I see the iTrader link posted.

    174- Weird. No idea.

  175. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    175- I don’t believe she changed it. That was her original scam story, but we know from Morwenna’s email that only four skeins exist (the four Sara had), so there are no six to be had.

  176. Just Peachy says:

    Who is the DS member? I cant view profiles for another 23 days!

  177. MotherMoonPads says:

    #171 is talking about Chey.

    Thanks #177. I didn’t see it before. Nevermind me 🙂

  178. Kimbella says:

    MMP – I think that was her original listing from April. She re-listed them or listed the other 2 skeins just recently, and that’s when Sara saw them.

  179. Aj says:

    I can’t believe that about Chey, wow. What is with long time members becoming scammers?

  180. Myself says:

    Chey who?

  181. Sala says:

    Chey hasn’t been on in weeks. I would suspect something came up, she doesn’t seem the sort. I suppose that’s what makes someone the perfect scammer, though.

  182. MotherMoonPads says:

    #182, she posted in the carseat forum a lot. She was SUPER helpful & informative. Certainly not the type that you would think to be a scammer.

  183. BabyBrain says:

    about the Chey person- Scammer was probably a strong word for me to use, not knowing her history. One of the affected moms is a good friend of mine. She was definitely ‘taken’ by her – not just a ‘something came up’ absence or miscommunication.

  184. werd says:

    Chey?! No way!! If she just up and disappeared, I’d be more worried that something happened to her. That is shocking.

  185. smartassmama says:

    That really is too bad. 😦 I was hoping (well not ‘hoping’) that it was more of something came up and she’s been away or something. Like an issue that caused no ill health, but caused loss of internet? I liked her. Our personalities got along well together. 😦 here’s hoping she fixes it. She really doesn’t seem the scam type, but I suppose the proof IA is in the feedback.

  186. Sara says:

    169–Sweet Pea, I guess we are. I’m about 10 min north of Syracuse. Def CNY! How ’bout you?

  187. zamgrawrz says:

    I have decided I don’t like Purewool coops. Too many colors…so pretty….paypal overload….

  188. ~*~Momma~*~ says:

    Just wanted to say I kept hearing that First Gear hc getting recommended over and over, and they had 6 unresolved negs and a few more “resolved”, i reported it to HC asking if that was something that gets a site taken down and they said they removed it after my ‘tip’. I hope no one else got scammed before removal!

  189. DSDM2 says:

    In response to Momma: From this thread:

    Kimbella Says:
    March 13, 2010 at 5:55 pm e

    If a person owns more than one store on HC, does HC total up the negative feedback for all the stores?

    The greenhorn lady (3 negs) also owns first gear (4 negs) and I think maybe one other store too.

  190. DSDM2 says:

    GreenHorn has 4 negatives as well

  191. ~*~Momma~*~ says:

    Did anyone email about greenhorn?

  192. DSDM2 says:

    Not that I know of, she also owns/co-owns 5 little monkeys. You should email and let them know about all of them being tied together. I know in the past they will shut down and combine feedback between stores.

  193. ~*~Momma~*~ says:

    I will do that, it can’t hurt, I just don’t want anyone taken 😦

  194. SweetP says:

    Sara — I’m between Syracuse and Utica. I think that almost counts as neighbors, though I think you’re a bit closer to Deviate (I’ve met her IRL and she’s a sweetheart, so don’t listen to the haters). 😉

  195. Redhead says:

    196, I think there is only one hater and she needs to find a different board anyway.. most all of us think Deviate is cool beans. 😉

  196. organicmomma says:

    Who is this cdmom that keeps swooping in with bs all over her?

  197. organicmomma says:

    About that FB? wtf? I don’t think she can do that…was there a post somewhere saying the OP would only sell to people with 5 ratings? I don’t blame her anyways for that. Sheeeit.

  198. smartassmama says:

    What was it? All I got was the ‘you do not have permission to access’ line.

  199. sourpatchbabe says:

    198, I read it less than 15 minutes ago but it’s now gone.

  200. me says:

    A new person left Carla negative (still there) because she put on her listing that she didn’t want to sell to people with under 5 feedback.

  201. smartassmama says:

    My Sweet Blessings?! She’s so sweet. What a douche, leaving negative for that reason. Get your posts into double digits by telling someone their kid’s cute, you’ll pray for them, etc. Then you can pm. Don’t be a douche. I reported the FB.

  202. BabyBrain says:

    198 – it’s gone.
    So the newbie gave her negative feedback because she wouldn’t sell to anyone with less than 5 feedback? Stupid. I don’t blame her (the seller) for protecting herself like that..unless a newbie has 100% positive feedback somewhere else that she can link to.

  203. Sala says:

    I’m interested in the Chey story. BabyBrain, can you or your friend tell us more?

  204. amessymama says:

    Am I the only person that checks feedback BEFORE I make my purchase?

  205. zamgrawrz says:

    I didn’t even think to check when I bought off of Spots. I didn’t even know at the time there WAS feedback on there, lol. I’m a noob.

    Luckily both times I got my stuff 🙂

  206. Redhead says:

    Isn’t Baltic Creations the one who put the “poop” on the diapers she bought?

    They are doing a coop, but I don’t like ordering from doody heads!

  207. DSDM2 says:

    Yes, she is. Inspired By Finn runs sales all the time and has DS discount codes. They also have coops all the time.

  208. Flat Stainley says:

    Seriously? WTF? Was that on the blog?

  209. Sala says:

    I’ve also been very pleased with Timedesign on etsy. She doesn’t have any listed right now but is very easy to work with and is happy to do custom orders. Here are some of her designs.

    I was just told that anyone who is selling perfectly round amber beads for under 60 bucks or so isn’t selling real amber, but amber melted and mixed with plastic or just plastic beads. Apparently perfectly round amber beads are extremely costly and many sellers who sell necklaces made with them have been sold bogus beads and don’t know it. Rounded beads are fine and should be real, as well as the chip. I don’t know about the other regular shapes but I’d be wary of those too. I suspect it is difficult or expensive to mill amber into regular shapes.

  210. Sala says:

    Also, I’m not the woman who does TimeDesigns nor do I know her. I just like her stuff, the price is good, and I like knowing that she made them unlike inspired by finn who sells stuff other people have made.

  211. Redhead says:

    212, she has some beautiful items! I’m going to convo her and see what kind of customs she can make. Thanks for the link 🙂

  212. smartassmama says:

    So, random O/T WWYD, but I’ve got a handful of pockets to get rid of. Most FBs. Haven’t used ten in months. All but two have no flaws to my eye, & don’t stink. But T&F has left me wary to sell. 😦 what would you do before selling? Wash in Dawn? What’s a fair price for EUC-GUC old style Med FBs?

  213. smartassmama says:

    Not used THEM in months. Drying hair+typing=fail.

  214. JustBecause says:

    Sara left feedback at HC this morning. Hopefully, HC admin will take this transaction seriously.

  215. zamgrawrz says:

    Is it bad that the first place I went when I got out of lurker status on CDN was the MM coop thread?

    I think I have a problem. *cackle*

  216. zamgrawrz says:

    216-I have no idea, I know FB’s are sort of flooding the market at DS. I can’t sell my brand new, new color OS FB’s on there for $17 PPD 😦

  217. Flat Stainley says:

    Zamgrawrz, I went there too. hehe

  218. Flat Stainley says:

    Have you tried CL? I had some luck selling 20 new ones a few months ago. I got what I paid for them, so I wasn’t out anything.

  219. zamgrawrz says:

    Yeah, I have about half pending from a lady on CL, she’s supposed to pick them up today. I’m still losing a little but not as much 🙂 It seems like all the people looking to buy have boys though and over half are girlie colors.

  220. Flat Stainley says:

    It seems to me that the boy stuff is always really easy to resell, and the girl stuff is out there in so much more abundance that it hangs around longer-not just for diapers, but clothing too.

  221. coffeehoar says:

    I consign mine at a local consignment shop. It is a steep loss, as the shop takes 60%, but I don’t have to do any of the legwork or shipping or worry about returns, etc.

  222. Berzerk-Llama-Syndrom says:

    Can I just come in here with something way out of left field?

    I have had a feeling for awhile that shit-stirer Chrunch!910 was that crazy Tessa chick from the post several months ago.

    There were things that she has said that made me think that, including her presence in every dog problem related thread.

    In the Do your looks & “crunchiness” match? thread she posted some pics of herself. Look at the info on the pics.

    I have been wanting to post something about my suspicions for a long time but never worked up the nerve to do it. This today though seems to confirm it.


  223. Berzerk-Llama-Syndrome says:


    I screwed up my name. I think this is the one I used before? I’m sorry. I’ve only posted now twice but have lurked for a long time.

  224. Flat Stainley says:

    coffeehoar; my local consignent shop is so picky! I took 2 bags full and she picked through, took all my cute denim and gave the rest back. I have since sold all of the rest, and I’ll never do a consignment shop again after that. I can’t justify giving the stuff to her. I’d rather give the deal directly to a mama than to support Her Stinginess. Her selection isn’t that great, either! okay, rant over.
    I do agree if you don’t have the time, it can be a good trade off. Swap meets can be good too. I made the most on my last one by sticking around for the latecomers at closing. I made more then than I had all day & I recouped my table fee, too. It might be a good thing to just have stuff in your car and go park there when they close, don’t even rent a table. I’ve considered it.

  225. Sala says:

    Flat Stainley: I can just see it: woman standing next to car with trunk open, eyes darting left and right, calling, “Psst, lady! Yeah, you with the two kids! You wanna buy some shirts? Maybe some shorts? I got some nice shirts right here, right size and everything for your little darlings. Almost brand new shoes, too. No? How about some skirts and dresses for the little girl, she deserves some pretty stuff. No? Hey, hey, come baaaaaaack!”

  226. Flat Stainley says:

    227 Lol. Yeah, then the person who runs the swap coming out: “This event is for paying merchants and shoppers only, lady. You are trespassing! I’m going to have to ask you to leave.” to which I might reply; “The swap is over, this turf is mine now!” :breaks found beer bottle: “now back off!” haha. maybe not?

  227. HB says:

    207- It was stupid of me not to check her feedback. My previous transaction w/ her went so well, I assumed I had nothing to worry about. Learned my lesson.

  228. Flat Stainley says:

    The buyer in this FSOT says:
    “I know that EUC/GUC/FUC is very subjective which is why I specifically asked about the elastic, snaps, and stains.”

    Seriously, the seller should’ve added to the latter of the three a K for Kidding-you’re about to be scammed on this diaper lot if you buy them. When is the DS board ever going to do away with that whole system or make a listed chart to follow? So many people don’t ask the right questions and it leaves too much room for crappy outcomes.

  229. coffeelover says:

    Smartassmama-how many do you have? I’ve been looking for pockets, but like you am leery of buying. I can’t get the munchkin to lay down for prefolds anymore. Can I email you? I’ve got lots of positive fb at ds and some at cdn :-).

  230. iken says:

    Ahhhh, CDN is down again.:(

  231. kukukachoo says:

    162. i think h2bam is saying she needs to produce a pic of SIX skeins if her story is to be believed.

  232. Flat Stainley says:

    232. Not. gonna. happen. 🙂

  233. zamgrawrz says:

    232-thats what I got too. I think she was referring to what I had said, that if she already had 2 skeins and another 4 were sent to her, she should have 6 skeins to show and that would prove that she did indeed have 2 skeins already. Obviously she can’t provide that since shes lying 😛

  234. Flat Stainley says:

    Post 236 should have read 235, not 232. :headsmack:

    237-She was definitely lying. No way she can come up with it, since it doesn’t exist. Hahha!

  235. coffeehoar says:

    I hope that’s what she was asking for. Given the tone of H2Blahblah’s post, I’m thinking she’s trying to give Nikki an easy way to redeem herself and stay at DS. I think she’ll reskein them and send a picture of a few of them (that we’ll probably never see) and that will be that. She’ll probably take a recommended “break” so we can all forget… Just what my particular crystal ball says.

  236. Just Peachy says:

    Good to know that about TimeDesigns as I just ordered some mineral makeup from her. I was apprehensive because shes in Canada so it helps to know someone on here has had great transactions with her.

  237. žába says:

    I had a great transaction with her as well. I got DD first amber necklace form her. She is in Canada, but it came really fast, I want to say in under a week.

  238. amessymama says:

    226-I do believe you are correct! I searched her tessa_s212 screen name and found her photobucket. Same crazy chick!

    Can’t you be banned for having 2 usernames?

  239. Berserk Llama Syndrome says:

    This was the post.

    It has been bugging me FOREVER! I had a hunch about it for awhile.

    Yes, I am pretty sure you will be banned for multiple user names.

    DSDM2 – This is the right one! Sorry about all the other posts!

  240. Berserk Llama Syndrome says:

    She actually had one other name for a short time that must have been caught and banned.

    I recognized her belly shot she used for that profile pic. She was in my due date club. Yes, I have no life.

  241. amessymama says:


    Don’t you sometimes wonder if the crazy is rubbing off on you when you start to suspect that one poster may be another poster from the past?

    It sure feels good when your hunch is confirmed though! 😀

  242. smartassmama says:

    Literally no one here uses cloth. The nearest CL is an hour away, but I’ve thought of trying.

    Coffeelover – I’ll check how many I have when I get back home. They’re all FBs & one BB snap one size (cow). They have no inserts because the inserts we were using (Joey buns) fell apart, and I don’t have the want to sew them up. They’re all mediums, though. I need to take pictures, I just haven’t made myself do it yet.

  243. zamgrawrz says:

    Aww bummer, that sucks. I’ll probably have to deal with that once I move, but we might be done having kids anyway so…at least it won’t matter. Or I can sell when I come to WA to visit family 😀 “I can’t give you a hug, I need to post these on CL ASAP! I’m only here a week!” lol

  244. zamgrawrz says:

    And wow, that chick looks like she’s 12. Maybe 14. Not saying she is but just…wow, she looks so young. Then again, I get people saying I look like I’m 20 and I have 5 kids. O_o Maybe its the piercings and tattoos. 😛

  245. smartassmama says:

    Now that I’m on a PC I really need to follow those links about Crunch. She’s a twat and generally grinds my gears anyway. lol

    I only have two @ 25, but I get mistaken for younger all the time. I think it’s my very round face. 😦

  246. smartassmama says:

    So has anyone called out Crotch!910 yet?

  247. Berserk Llama Syndrome says:

    250 –

    Maybe I will. I never post outside of the co-op forum and really have nothing to lose. It would be good in the off topic forum for all to see wouldn’t it?

  248. Berserk Llama Syndrome says:

    And a big LOL to Crotch!910

  249. smartassmama says:

    Yeah. That’s all I got. I’m not good with nicknames. lol

    Ok, in case anyone is as lost as I was, here’s a photo post of tessa_s212

    and here’s one as crunch

    same PB account.

  250. smartassmama says:

    I thought of reporting her post with those links, but I’ll look like a crazy drama biotch, since I don’t really get along with the main admin who picks up all emails, etc. Don’t want to get in trouble for ‘abuse of the reporting system.’ lol

  251. smartassmama says:

    Nevermind. :doh: They are separate accounts. I’m a Loser.

  252. DSDM2 says:

    I would show: with the crunchy picture. No doubt it is the same.

  253. zamgrawrz says:

    Rofl, I just went and read the original drama post involving her. I didn’t know vet tech school was harder than nursing. Maybe if it was CNA? I just can’t see how that could be more difficult than going for your RN or even LPN. Maybe I’m biased since I’m trying.

  254. Sala says:

    how is this not the same person?? Totally same person. Kid is named the same. bet her DH is the same, too.

  255. Sala says:

    DSDM2, I guess we had the same thought.

  256. Flat Stainley says:

    No duplicate pics in either account? Can you find one of her man?

  257. melmelly says:

    It is totally her! If she is trying to pull off a fast one and claim she is someone else, she shouldn’t have used her name, Tessa, in either of her PB account names. Dumbass.

  258. zamgrawrz says:

    I’m in moderation but I found two that are identical.

  259. smartassmama says:

    A picture is worth 1000 words. . .

  260. smartassmama says:

    I guess in the scammer PI world, that would be the money shot!

  261. treeindawind says:

    257- Where is the original thread about this chick?

  262. Sala says:

    So: her name is Tessa, SO is Dustin, kid is Mason, lives in Ohio, has dawgs, etc. exactorama.

  263. zamgrawrz says:

    She kinda fails at trying to hide who she is. Hard.

  264. Redhead says:

    did anyone report her yet?

  265. DSDM2 says:

    Probably not. No call out either.

  266. smartassmama says:

    I posted in Forum Use Q, asking about the general topic 🙂

  267. sourpatchbabe says:

    Herbabydaddy looks to be about 12.

  268. DSDM2 says:

    I think they are both like 19 or something.

  269. sourpatchbabe says:

    Herbabydaddy looks to be about 12. Although I shouldn’t say anything, I look younger than I am and have been asked a few times if The Hubby is my father. He was not amused at all but I found it to be hilarious.

  270. sourpatchbabe says:

    Darn double post.

  271. treeindawind says:

    275-She looks to be about 12 herself. Although I wish I looked like 12 sometimes lol.

  272. Redhead says:

    Is she the one who was complaining at one time about not having money for food because she had to pay for off-campus parking at her college?

  273. sourpatchbabe says:

    Maybe. As I remember from her she wanted the county to get her a house/apartment within walking distance to the school with an extra room so her mom and her 7 dogs could live with her and babysit for free while she got food stamps and shot BB guns at military personnel.

  274. treeindawind says:

    280-No, I think that is another member……I can’t think of her name right now but she has a set of twins….

  275. Redhead says:

    282, I looked for her avi, because I can’t remember her name either, but she looks similar to the tessa/crunch person.
    I think in her avi she is wearing a blue spaghetti-strap top and her Dh is with her..?

  276. treeindawind says:

    283-Yes, that’s the avi pic I am thinking about too. I don’t think that she and crunch look alike though.

  277. treeindawind says:

    I do see a resemblance, but I still don’t think it is her. I wish I could find her to see her avi. I am looking, but no luck. She posts a lot over in the Thrifty Families section.

  278. treeindawind says:

    WOW, they do look a lot alike!

  279. sourpatchbabe says:

    They do look similar but it’s not the same person.

  280. treeindawind says:

    twinvilliage’s dh has a more chiseled chin, so I don’t think it’s the same couple…..

  281. Sala says:

    Tessa and Dustin are a cute couple of kids, too bad she’s trolltastic.

  282. smartassmama says:

    okey doke. I need motivation to take the rest of these stupid pictures.

  283. smartassmama says:

    I think someone casually outed her. And admin has been notified.

  284. monkey says:


    I’ve done that. I’ve gotten into my parents house after flying in from Korea and been like, ‘Talk later, post baby stuff now”.

  285. moxy says:

    Anybody else think it’s hilarious to make mama cloth from “Hello Kitty”?

  286. sourpatchbabe says:

    I couldn’t do it. The entire time I’d be wearing it I’d want to draw attention to the pussycat in my pants.

  287. Sala says:

    I think I’d feel silly having any cartoon character inside my pants. I don’t care for Hello Kitty so I don’t find it particularly funny except in the sense it could be considered childish by some. I also don’t understand the fascination with and adoration of Hello Kitty (or any Disney princess or whatever) by some grown women, see above re: childish.

  288. Sala says:

    Sounds like Crunch knows the gig might be up:

    from this thread


    Thankyou ladies!!

    I probably won’t be here much longer, so I surely wanted to thank you ladies.

    If it had not been for this little subforum and your educating me, I would not be planning on ERFing my son. I wouldn’t have got his carseat checked, and it’d still be improperly installed. Maybe one day we’ll be in an accident, and because of you my son’s life will be saved because he’s still rear facing. And if it weren’t for me knowing, I wouldn’t be obsessed about carseat safety. I wouldn’t be able to help friends properly install carseats so their children are safe. I wouldn’t know any better to tell people to keep their children RFing. So thankyou.

    You ladies rock! Keep doing what your doing!
    God loving wife to D CDing, ECing, planning to ERF, a little bit of babywearing, non-vaxing, crunchy mommy to M (9/10/09)

  289. OneBoy says:

    Wow! I have a good friend from another board who knows her well IRL. Sad…. Debating if I should tell my friend….

  290. MotherMoonPads says:

    #295. I get a LOT of requests for character pads from women with younger girls who have their cycles. So I don’t think it’s so strange 🙂

  291. noisybean says:

    I’ve seen some mama cloth made from super cute fabric and thought, sheesh, I don’t want to bleed on that!

  292. zamgrawrz says:

    I was thinking of getting some mama cloth made and wanted cute prints but I agree, I don’t want to mess them up, lol. I think I’ll stick with dark prints/cloth. I’m trying to make my own with brown cotton velour on top-that should hide stains pretty well, hehe. But this bamboo velour keeps tempting me….:(

  293. Sala says:

    Hey, whatever floats your boat. If you like anime or cartoons, then why not? I don’t like it but thankfully my tastes don’t rule the world the world would be a really boring place….

    And if it sells then I have zero issue with people making that sort of thing. Gotta make your customers happy (within reason).

  294. zamgrawrz says:

    I’ve seen a few diaper prints that I’m like…whoa…and I’m very liberal and laid back. I think they’re all D&G prints. Most of them just make me giggle though. A salt and battery. lol.

  295. Flat Stainley says:

    I made the mistake of getting some sushi printed pads. Now I really don’t wanna eat sushi, and I thought it was bad because I spent Christmas 2008 in the hossy with food poisioning while I was preggo. I wonder if I’ll ever eat sushi again.

  296. Flat Stainley says:

    Anybody else following this thread?

  297. Redhead says:

    306- I saw that. I’m guessing it is another longer-term member who doesn’t want us to know her husband is a douche.

  298. zamgrawrz says:


    If that isn’t a troll holy bejeebuz. I see so many problems there…even just having a friend-especially one that he used to sleep with-that I’ve NEVER heard of would piss me off. But then the rest…I think I’d kill him. I think I would. I guess I can’t really talk though 😦 Time to go cry some more, I need to stay out of stuff like this….

  299. zamgrawrz says:

    Oh and I’m thinking she’s either already preggo or he’s already cheating. I could be wrong though.

  300. noisybean says:

    or both.

  301. Redhead says:

    cedricsmom’s post made me LOL. Is she on this board? I think she is..

  302. mamaton says:

    There is an anonomus account for sensitive subjects… just sayin’

  303. Sala says:

    Wow, what a horrible idea. I think he’s already slept with her and she might or might not be pregnant and he feels bad.

    Sweet girl deserves to be a mom my ever growing ass. What man who’s not getting any from his wife sees an ex and thinks, yeah, she’s so sweet, she should be a mom? None. Not one.

    No, a decent man runs screaming from the room or introduces her to his wife and buddies. A fucktard sees an ex and thinks, gosh, love to bang that again. Then she’s willing, then she’s late, then he’s screwed.

  304. Sala says:

    Read above: bad = guilty

  305. moxy says:

    #300 & #303
    I don’t think there’s anything wrong with cartoon characters on mama cloth at all, nor do I think it’s strange, not sure where you got that idea?
    I just think a Hello Kitty pad is hilarious because of its name…I’d probably break out in random giggling the first few times I wore it. 😀

  306. smartassmama says:

    Zamgrawrz – I hope everything is ok where you are? I’m sorry. 😦 ((((HUGS))))

    As for the link, I concur with everyone else. And Little Miss new user sounds bout like Erin, but without the baby-killing tendencies. Se also sounds super naive. She’s thinking about it?! Wth!? She needs to hit him on the nose with a newspaper, verbally assault homeslice who’s hitting on him, & look into evaluating why se feels like She does. Or lack thereof.

  307. werd says:

    I’m so making some Hello Kitty pads. They will go perfectly with my Pink Cookie pads. SCORRRRE!!!

  308. melmelly says:

    LOl werd!

  309. coffeehoar says:

    317, me too! Only I cannot get my stinking serger to thread. Top knife keeps breaking/slipping and I’m about to throw the damned thing out the window. I have 8 pads cut and ready to go, and I spent three hours trying to thread the &*(*^ing machine today.

  310. Flat Stainley says:

    Anyone else notice that H2Bamod checked into that thread about the wife whose hubby asked if he could knock up his ex? The OP had a second account. Not that it wasn’t totally obvious with it being her first post. Wonder who it is.

  311. DSDM2 says:

    It was my DH, I confess… 😉

  312. Flat Stainley says:


  313. zamgrawrz says:

    I hate my serger right now too. I’m getting a new one if I can next quarter, I can’t for the life of me get it to stop skipping stitches 😦

    316-I’m fine, its something that happened a couple months ago, stuff like that post brings it back to the surface. Blarg. I had my sisters graduation to take my mind off of stuff though, I forgot how long and boring those things are. lol

  314. MotherMoonPads says:

    #323, When mine skips stitches, the timing is slightly off and it needs to be serviced 😦 what kind do you have?

  315. zamgrawrz says:

    Uhhh…I think its a Singer and its about as old as I am. I was thinking it might need servicing too but I already told my mom I’d give it back to her, so I think I’ll end up just getting a new one. Maybe it’ll be a little easier to thread 😛

  316. Flat Stainley says:

    My serger’s timing is off right now too. Crummy thing! I want to murder it somedays. It always cuts the hardest-to-thread thread.

  317. sciencefair says:

    Hello Kitty mama cloth? Anyone else find that fabulous? (I want!)

  318. […] got this one, looked at it, thought it was a troll and by the time we went back to check, DODS was all over it. We totally missed it, we’re blaming the World Cup on this […]

  319. organicmomma says:

    I wonder who it was…

  320. Lori says:

    No way.
    OK, in regards to the OP here… I bought Black Rainbow MM on Uruguayan merino on Spots on April 15th… from … Nikkiof5.

    I waited and waited, and a month later, nothing…. I contact her and she gets back to me saying there was something wrong on the customs form (I’ll have to check my email) and the PO held it under the counter for weeks.

    I finally got it.

    I can’t follow the whole timeline here, but she sold me the stolen yarn and was scamming me, too, but made good in the end.

    Holy cow.

  321. Shanna says:

    OMG!!! Thats awful! Sounds like someone pulled a fast one thinking the mistake of Non-Priority shipping ( And her assuming it was insured) cud buy her an out. Her cover up story is laughable at best. I’m sorry but her friend gave her the EXACT yarn she had to have SHIPPED to her via buying thru someone else…?? She’s mad she got busted lol

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