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i sold some diapers(sticky peas nrss)to this mama like 8 months to a year ago..i never heard anything from her after that..well now all of a sudden she sends me this message saying she is going to leave me bad feedback b/c she was not happy with the this was like i said 8 months to a year..she never gave me the option if she was not happy to get the diapers back and give her a refund b/c she never said she is saying shes going to leave me bad to me this seems so unfair..should there not be some sort of policy on how long to have to leave feedback for some one..i would never do this to not giving her a refund after she has had the diapers that long..what would you so upset about this..i mean who really keeps the diapers for that long and never says anything and she could have said something..i did send her a pm back telling her i was sorry that she was unhappy and asked her how i could make it right but i really dont feel like i should have to do anything b/c she should have spoke up way before now..please help..thanks

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i pulled up the transaction and she bought them last year on it has been 7 months and she said she felt over charged but i sold her 12 nrss for $ that made them like 11.50 each(good deal to me)the elastics were very good..she is just unhappy b/c she said she was overcharged but she payed for them and never said anything until now..i just dont think you should be able to wait 7 months and then say something and leave bad feedback for a person..
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here is her exact pm to me..shes just wants to leave me bad feedback after all this time..


I purchased some NRSS from you last year. I was unhappy with the purchase (I felt cheated on the deal). But I was not familiar with the DiaperSwapper site and I did not know about feedback and was very busy with the new born I had, so I did not really do anything.

I just thought that I am going to give you a heads up before I submit the feedback. Again, I am sorry about leaving you a bad feedback and that I am doing it so late.


  1. MonsterBabyMaker says:

    Wow, I wish I could get 8 months of use out of my diapers too and return them for a full refund…

  2. Taterbug says:

    I don’t know who the buyer is, but I do know that I wouldn’t want to be that person when the CD community finds out who they are.

  3. Kimbella says:

    I had an icky transaction with the seller. She sent me longies that were not as described. Then she went back and changed her fsot post to try to make it look as though she hadn’t lied. Good think I keep screen shots. πŸ˜€ Then she left me a retailitory neg that the mods removed.

    However, if what she’s saying is true about the nrssi (how does one plural nrss?), then that’s not cool at all!

  4. MonsterBabyMaker says:

    Oooo… the plot thickens!

  5. cheesewhiz says:

    Oh wait, so I can buy a whole bunch of diapers and get buyer’s remorse 8 months later and then I’m entitled to leave a neg because I don’t like the condition they are in after I’ve USED them for the better part of a year? Awesome, good to know.

  6. reallytiredmommy says:

    What would make someone do that? Shes got to know she wont be refunded no matter what threats she makes!

  7. reallytiredmommy says:

    Number 3 I was wondering about her negative.

  8. Kimbella says:

    Yep, that neg was from me. I specifically asked about stains. She said she didn’t notice any. Then, when I pm’d her after I got them and saw stains, dried/crusted food, and overall dingyness, she said “i looked over them before i shipped and did not see any noticable stains on the bum..all i noticed was a faint stain around the cuffs”. So, she admitted that they were stained! That still didn’t stop her from editing her fsot to say that the longies were only in “GUC”, which she later editied out because I called her on it and had proof in a screen shot.

    I’m not trying to say at all that she’s being dishonest with this T&F post! I just wanted to point out that she has been in the past, at least with me.

  9. FunnyMama says:

    proof positive that Karma exists.

  10. stacEy says:

    just a potential scammer alert. I’ve seen Leslie (aka Kind Hearted Women or Momtobushbabies) talked about here for having really gross stuff on Spots and then some bad feedback. She back on HC selling under “babymealpacas” and is on DS as recently as January selling under the name “crazymomof3.5” She has bad feedback under the momtobushbabies UN and under her old store

  11. Kimbella says:

    10: I noticed she’s selling diapers again too on her web site.

  12. Kimbella says:

    I wonder if this is her etsy shop: ?

  13. stacEy says:

    I think it is Tracy that is selling on the web site. She was partners with Leslie but I believe they parted ways.

  14. Kimbella says:

    Gotcha! I would think she would want to change names to distance herself from Leslie.

  15. stacEy says:

    if you enlarge the sweater pic in that etsy listing the carpet looks exactly like the carpet in the pic from her HC listing. Her photobucket is inthesticks2008

  16. DSDM2 says:

    I know who the buyer is! The most recent update to the thread outted her. πŸ™‚ sl249 You shouldn’t be leaving negative feedback just because you can’t sell the diapers for more then you paid :2cents:

  17. sciencefair says:

    Wow. I hope karma gets her for that. Looks like yet another for the Do not BST list. I never expect to get more back on a diaper than I paid. Even if I barely use them. Heck, most of my diapers I will sell FFS because its easier and it will get them out of my house super fast.

  18. smartassmama says:

    So. Sue-een (funny, I read that as ‘Suing’) is this SL249 person? And that email?! So douchey. “I was new and bad no clue what I was doing, so it’s your bad.” BS!

  19. .bin. says:

    So wait.. she claimed to be overcharged at 11.50 but is now selling them for 14? am I missing something?

  20. Kimbella says:

    If you’re missing something, then so am I!

    Maybe she was adding in shipping to her resale cost. I always laugh when I see threads like that: “asking what I paid plus shipping”.

    It looks like the diapers sold, so I don’t know what she thought she’d gain by leaving the seller a neg. It’s not like she could have returned the sold diapers!

  21. altaem says:

    Just b/c I’m bored, very pregnant, and looking for drama…I noticed Mary (mama2gr8kids78) was banned. Anyone know why?

  22. smartassmama says:

    Who would send something still wet? WTH? eew.

  23. redfish bluefish says:

    Ah man, shes a bright one.

    And super EW about the damp inserts!

  24. redfish bluefish says:

    21-can’t remember exactly why but I remember her name

  25. JustPeachy says:

    Prolly cus shes a psycho bitch?

  26. altaem says:

    lol, Peach, that’s just as valid of a reason as any. Just wondering if there was any good drama to go with it.

  27. DSDM2 says:

    24 – because we have featured her here a few times?

  28. JustPeachy says:

    Eh if you search her on here theres plenty of shit. She got banned from another forum for stealing a picture of someone elses kid then threatening to kill the mother of aforementioned child. She’s a few sandwiches short of a picnic basket.

  29. magpiedpiper says:

    So, has anyone noticed that this seller – – does not quite seem to understand the logistics behind FFS? Lots of examples on her shop, but just one would be the child sized neck scarf for like $7.99 shipping? Uh…right.

  30. JustPeachy says:

    Report her to HC. I bet the entrants dont realize they are paying for the diaper and its not actually FFS.

  31. stacEy says:

    29: that is just so ridiculous. You could actually buy one of her instock scarves and have it shipped for less than the FFS crap she has listed.

  32. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    29- Wow. Newb trying to do herself in already? Those Garanimals tees were at my local WalMart for $3.00 when I was there yesterday. So she, what, slapped embroidery on them for another fifty cents, wrinkled it up in a massive wad for a week, then took a crappy photo on her couch so she could list it for 10x profit even though it’s “FFS”? Right.

  33. sheepthrills says:

    I haven’t read everything yet, but wait?!? She claimed to be unhappy with her NRSS purchase, but in her FSOT thread she says that both she and her husband LOVED the diapers?

  34. MotherMoonPads says:

    I noticed her last night. I can’t stand sellers who do FFS items that way.

  35. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    33- She feels she was ‘ripped off’ on the purchase. Clearly she liked the diapers, loved them in fact, and is now trying to rip some one else off, by selling the diapers for $3.50 more per diaper. I guess she better prep herself for neg feedback in 8 months for ripping some one else off. Idiot.

  36. celestialdreamer says:

    OT – does anyone know if you can get a “flag” from a seller removed on HC if they did it out of retaliation?

  37. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    Just found this regarding the store in 29:
    Clearly this seller doesn’t care. At least 6 people have emailed her since Tuesday, and she has neither responded, nor changed the shipping to make her listings even SLIGHTLY less obvious.

  38. DeviateFromTheNorm says:
    Really? $20 just for shipping? It’s a freaking 12×12 pillow! Smush it into a Priority Flat Rate box, and it ships for $10.95!

  39. knittingfool says:

    And wipes are not included for sanitary reasons. That’s because you used them, hon. You are “giving away” your trash for only $14.99 shipping. Way to recycle!

  40. treeindawind says:

    Could someone please explain to me how she has 25 shoppers viewing her cart? I never have that many, even when I pay for the featured spots 😦

  41. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    40- She’s the hot topic of conversation on the HC forums, so everyone is peeking at her train wreck.

  42. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    …And since when is PUL organic? This chick is an idiot.

  43. treeindawind says:

    Oh I see. Well, that def. makes me feel a lot better. Sorry, I was having a pitty party lol.

  44. DBSBMH says:

    40- It’s probably all of the people lurking clicking the link here to check it out. *cough*

  45. Myself says:

    trying to post

  46. Myself says:

    Anyone else been having trouble posting today?

  47. smartassmama says:

    Her About Me is empty. She’s not responding to valid questions. She smells like someone I think I know. . .

    And OMG that monkey wipe box is fugly. The tassles, oh the tassel balls.

  48. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    46- Nope.

  49. smartassmama says:

    Forgive me if my stupid is showing, but isn’t “organic microfleece” a big oxymoron? I mean, bg has the organic AIO, with has a PUL shell & organic inner. So that I can grasp. But the microfleece is what got me. If I shove a cotton PF in a FB in is far from organic.

  50. smartassmama says:

    Me neither. I had a little trouble getting the subscription to work, but none posting.

  51. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    49- Precisely. Not to mention, her insert shown is microfiber. Not a darn thing organic about polyester microfleece and microfiber. Polyester is friggin’ plastic! There’s no such thing as organic plastic.

  52. jeruco says:

    I think people should just go hit BIN on all of her listings and not pay. What is she going to do, blacklist you from her store? That is all she can do. She has no other recourse and it would teach her a lesson. Also, enter her FFS lotteries so that you win and then dont pay and dont respond to her emails. Again, all she can do is blacklist you and nothing else. Then by the time she gets around to reslisting she will be old news and no one will be hovering over her store wondering what is going on there.
    I am not joking. I really think people should enter the lotteries and hit BIN.

  53. Pariah says:

    i think it’s funny that she is trying to sell her fleece blankets for $30-$60. i made DH a big one (fits one our king bed), and shipped it to iraq for less than $30

  54. screenname says:

    The way I read the PM was that Sue-een wasn’t happy with the purchase to begin with but didn’t know how to leave negative feedback. That she would have left the negative feedback right after her purchase if she knew how.

    Now, it’s still a stupid reason to leave negative feedback. Especially since she agreed to the price, admits to loving the diapers and are selling them for more than she paid.

    But the point is that it doesn’t seem like she used them for 7 months and now wants a refund.

  55. screenname says:

    *is now selling

    Damn, I need some coffee.

  56. Myself says:

    What PM are you all talking about?

  57. Booyah says:

    #54 Then why couldn’t she search around on the site and figure out how? Even post a thread asking, “How do I leave negative feedback?” if finding a mod and PMing them is too hard?

    I bought a bunch of used GMs last year. Now eery single one of them is shot (because GMs suck). I wonder if I could leave negs for that! Apparently I can….in crazy land….

  58. amessymama says:

    No, no, no. We have it all wrong re: the HC FFS chick. I think she is trying to tell us that she will send us $11.99 to take that fugly ass stuff off her hands. Because that is the only way I would take it.

  59. Taterbug says:

    #56- The PM is quoted above, in the original blog posting about this transaction. The OP had shared it, but was told that it violated the rules, and a mod removed it from the thread.


    I purchased some NRSS from you last year. I was unhappy with the purchase (I felt cheated on the deal). But I was not familiar with the DiaperSwapper site and I did not know about feedback and was very busy with the new born I had, so I did not really do anything.

    I just thought that I am going to give you a heads up before I submit the feedback. Again, I am sorry about leaving you a bad feedback and that I am doing it so late.


  60. Myself says:

    Holy crap, thinking she was cheated on that price for NRSSs, ugh. She is insane.

    And there are tons of newbies on the T and F forum asking about leaving feedback.

  61. magpiedpiper says:

    It would just be a head-shaker if Sue-een just wanted to leave neg after 8 months.

    But add in that she admittedly loved the diapers and is selling them for more than she paid, after feeling so cheated on the price and adding 8 months more wear and tear, bumps the whole thing up to incredulous laughter.


  62. screenname says:

    #57 – Because she’s obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed.

  63. TeamB4me says:

    Re: Sue-duh:
    The seller says that a mod has told her she can’t leave negative feedback 7 months later. She was shocked to learn that the buyer was turning around and selling them for more than she paid.
    Unique Scam: That is the most hilarious HC I have seen in a while. From grammatical errors and pricing to the used crap…hilarious.

  64. sheepthrills says:

    She was unhappy with the purchase, felt like she got overcharged. She paid $11.50 for diapers that she and her husband LOoooOOved. It would be hard for me to be upset about finding diapers I loved for only 11.50 each. WTF-ever.

  65. JustPeachy says:

    I wish I had found that deal. 11.50 piece for a lot of NRSS is a steal!

  66. Myself says:

    I would have jumped on that deal.

  67. JustPeachy says:

    You and me both. I love NRSS. Id have a whole stash if money were no object.

  68. Myself says:

    I’ve never tried them, I can’t manage to stalk them well enough and I always either miss them when people are selling or just don’t have the money then.

  69. smartassmama says:

    I went to the HC store, and they are very squishy and cute! I’ve never seen one though. And *bag over head* I don’t know what NRSS means! 😦

  70. JustPeachy says:

    No roll simply sticky. I was gifted two last year and they have held up extremely well. The newer style Im not too keen on but I managed to stalk one of those a month or two ago. Not bad but I really liked the snap in wool doubler, snap in 1 layer soaker, and lay in doubler set up better than this new one.

  71. eeek says:

    I really want to know (for my own peace of mind) that no one ACTUALLY bought those fugly wipe boxes from that unique gifts monstrosity.

    And OMG. She thinks she can get $70 for a hunk of joann’s fleece, cut into a fringe & knotted? Is she using American dollars or some special twunt currency?

    Also, sue-een (makes me think of how you’d call a hog) is a moron. I’m so tired of all these narcissistic bitches. I wish she’d come over here & try to explain herself.

  72. smartassmama says:

    Thanks Peach. I would have never come to those words. I was mulling over several combinations, but would not have guessed No Roll Simply Sticky? Ever.

    And I would love if Sue-Een would try to legitimize what she was wanting to do. Like, in what freaking world would that be right? If I bought panties, wore them for 8 months, then realized that they were on clearance, neither Victoria’s Secret or Walmart would let me return them, just because I didn’t shop wisely. Even though, in this case, it seems she did get a very good deal.

  73. Jacky says:

    That’s it! I am getting out my glue gun and going to goodwill for some fabric. I am going to open a hyena cart tomorrow. Yep, that’s how I am going to make my fortune! I don’t know yet what I will make exactly, but it doesn’t matter of it’s fugly, useless or just plain dumb. I’m sure everyone will love it! Oh, and gotta run to the craft store for some dingleballs on a string to make my items even fug….better, I mean. Look for my store soon!

    Kidding….mostly. That stuff is HIDEOUS. Why on earth would I want it in my house, let alone my diaper bag? Who carries a full size wipes box in their diaper bag?

  74. JustPeachy says:

    I am dying over here cus DS just sent me an email about the new and improved marketplace. I’m banned stupid asses don’t fucking email me til June!

  75. theinvisible says:

    Someone finally took whats-her-name’s handystitch so she is trying her hand at selling old crap and knotted fleece on HC. Awesome.

  76. JustPeachy says:

    Oh and lookie who listed another rip off item
    Oh and I love you alioop!

  77. readthis says:

    Did anyone notify mom on CDN that Kimanalynn has been banned from DS under another name? dark_angel1978 Is she still on CDN? or elsewhere?

  78. amessymama says:

    71-Someone did! The latest feedback was from someone that got one and it wasn’t even negative!!!! It wasn’t glowing either, but c’mon. Although, if people are going to blindly enter all the FFS lottos then it’s kind of their own fault.

  79. yikes says:

    I have seen Kimanalynn ordering yarn on yahoo groups 😦

  80. altaem says:

    I’m sorry, these “Unique Gifts” aren’t so unique. My grandma has made knotted fleece blankets for both my kids…and I guarantee it didn’t cost her upwards of $50 for the material/time/shipping.

  81. Sala says:

    Well, they are unique in that they are handmade and no two alike (thankfully?).

  82. JustPeachy says:

    I thought Kimanalynns issues were resolved already?

  83. knittingfool says:

    A brand new member called “the secret” has posted to the FFS thread wanting to know if people will be marked as non-payong buyers if they don’t pay. Hmmmm.

  84. knittingfool says:

    make that “paying” LOL

  85. redfish bluefish says:

    Ooo thanx for the awesome Alioop link! They rawk! I’m so entering!

  86. twiddling*thumbs says:

    I *twinkling heart* Alioop!

  87. RainCloud says:

    That stuff by Unique gifts my grandma would have bought thinking it was spectacular. I bet it is a grandma who couldn’t sell her wares on Etsy or Ebay so she’s trying HC now. That has got to be it!

    Now about that spectacular Sue-een, what a dog. She is obviously clueless.

  88. BFF says:

    OMG y’all. Unique gifts…wow. I really hope the creator is just a little old grandma.

  89. eeek says:

    Unique gifts just needs some of that plastic mesh stuff, that you make patterns in yarn on? Tissue box covers, it’s the unique gift of the future. I know because my grandma also thought that stuff was the shit.

  90. Kimbella says:

    eeek: You mean plastic canvas? My Granny is a master at plastic canvas. She build a 2-story Barbie house out of that stuff!

  91. knittingfool says:

    I’m holding out for those crocheted poodle toilet paper covers!

  92. melmelly says:

    91. My grandma once had a Barbie doll toilet paper cover! A huge peach colored dress that covered the whole roll, while Barbie’s legs were in the roll. I was shocked to see it gone about two years ago.

  93. amessymama says:

    92-She must have sold it on HC.

  94. melmelly says:

    My grandma barely knows what the internet is, so it would have had to be the person who took it from the bathroom! LOL!!!

  95. magpiedpiper says:

    What’s the word on how the other transactions with Katie Bubbles/2cute2resist?

    She contacted me asking what she could do to get me to remove the neg I left. I went ahead and left neg because initially I figured the issues were a one-off after reading other people’s raves for her. But after hearing about all of the current problems I thought maybe going ahead and leaving it would help keep others from having the same thing happen.

  96. Kimbella says:

    I see greenhorn is open again – even with a NEW negative fb!

  97. Jamie says:

    95–she sent me a few emails a few days ago saying she wanted to make things right. I haven’t heard from her again or received anything so I’d say it’s all still up in the air.

  98. readthis says:

    Greenhorn was probably allowed back open because the last negative looks like retaliatory feedback.

  99. JustMe says:

    Here’s some new drama. Remember the mattress pad diapers?

    Who wants to bet this is the same gal? (drama gets on around page #19)

  100. dirtyj says:

    I do not get the mattress pad diapers. She says they are trim and more breathable than pul. Scratching my head on this one

    If she was trying to be innovative and wanted to create the next big thing then why the hell wouldn’t she work at creating an actual functioning diaper?

    A cute print sewn on a mattress pad with a microfiber towel thrown in is cheap and bound to not fit well or last long. sorry

  101. altaem says:

    Anyone see this?

    Isn’t LilOutlaws a WAHM? She has tons of positive feedback…

  102. JustMe says:

    Yup, she’s a WAHM. I’d like to hear her side of the story before jumping to conclusions, but it doesn’t look good from what I’m seeing.

  103. altaem says:

    I’d like to hear her side too but, you’re right, it doesn’t look good.

  104. Aj says:

    I believe she’s been featured as a nutjob on this blog before–this incident does not bode well for Jacklen.

    As for the diapers, wow, those are shiteous!

  105. DSDM2 says:

    IIRC it was this thread: and she has multiple UNs here. I have 17 comments of hers in my holding tank waiting for her to use her UN. She boasts about having 5 or 8 names on DS or something.

  106. DSDM2 says:

    And I think she enters into the conversation somewhere around 550 or 600. I do not have the time to read the entire thing right now, but she is not pertinent to the OP. She comes into the thread later on.

  107. JustMe says:

    Yup, saw that. She just wants the thread deleted before people read it. But there were a lot of legitimate questions and concerns brought up that she’s not answering, and only a couple of rude comments that were easily ignored, should one choose to do so.

  108. FunnyMama says:

    I distinctly remember several drama incidents regarding LilOutlaws. IIRC, wasn’t there once some hullabaloo about a modeling portfolio?

  109. FunnyMama says:

    I have to add that she’s on my Do Not B/S/T list but I don’t remember why

  110. Aj says:

    FunnyMama, look at posts 104 & 105 πŸ™‚

  111. MotherMoonPads says:

    I don’t do swaps anymore because of a really bad experience with LilOutlaws. I personally would never b/s/t with her again.

  112. FunnyMama says:

    sorry, sorry! I glanced over it but didn’t click any of the links from 105. My bad!

  113. Aj says:

    Interesting 112, do tell!

  114. MotherMoonPads says:

    It was a green partnered swap (the kind where you get an ISO list from your partner). I sent to her. She requested sandwich wraps and snack baggies for her DD for Kindergarten. She asked that I try to do them in red and white (even though it was a surprise swap) if possible. I forgot, and sent her pink and purple dragonflies. I got a very hurtful/rude PM from her because her DD’s lunchbox was red and white themed and I screwed it up and she couldn’t use the pink and purple ones.

    I felt terrible, and overall it was just a horrible experience.

  115. redfish bluefish says:

    insert :Ihavenothingtoaddbutwantedtobeincluded: invisible smilie here. :popcorn: anyone?

    Liloutlaws is a real gem. Ha.

  116. redfish bluefish says:

    115-WOW! 😦 I’m sorry she was such a twat to you. Hugs ❀

  117. werd says:

    WOAH Denelle, that is beyond crazy!!!

  118. MotherMoonPads says:

    I was so embarrassed I never mentioned it to anyone. What better place to bring it up than the drama blog though! lol.

  119. altaem says:

    You ruined her lunchbox theme? Oh, the horror! Seriously? Who the hell cares about that? I would bet she uses them too.

  120. Aj says:

    What a bitch!

  121. FunnyMama says:

    wow. I second the twat motion.

  122. JustMe says:

    #120 :yeahthat:

    Hugs, Denelle. Not cool.

  123. theinvisible says:

    Is it possible that happy2Bamommy has joined CDN? I see a very similar user name with only a few posts. Interesting.

  124. readthis says:

    #124 Could it be someone wanting CDNers to think a DS mod is now a member? Are there any other DS mods who are CDN members?

  125. readthis says:

    And Denelle, gee whiz what a scunt for complaining over a swap item. Just rude.

  126. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    125- JustSteph(on CDN) is the DS mod/admin Stephanie, owner of VihnThi. I’ve always thought she was a classy lady, though, so I’ve never cared.

  127. JustPeachy says:

    #125 a few but none that are quite like H2BAM. She can suck it as far as I’m concerned and if they let her stick around, I think I may just have to reconsider going on CDN. Not that its any big loss to them but thats BS they if they let her just poke around seeing as how its obvious how far up Lee’s ass she is.

  128. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    128- Agreed. She’s pretty much the epitome of what’s wrong with DS Mods/Admin.

  129. readthis says:

    128 – Then why would she be allowed to stay at CDN?

  130. Taterbug says:

    130- Do you mean why would CDN allow her to stay? Or why would Lee allow her to visit another CD site?

  131. Incognizable says:

    Is DS H2BAM Canadian?? Her posts on CDN are referencing Canada. No siggy yet, no location. I guess we just wait and see.

    IMO, as long as she is not a scammer or troll technically douche mods from DS are still welcome on CDN.

  132. zosiasmama says:

    Everyoneis welcome at CDN unless they are a troll or scammer. If you don’t like someone best thing is to just put them on iggy, it has been a godsend for me. I am much less stressed now that i have a few key people on iggy.

  133. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    133- WORD! πŸ˜‰

  134. JustPeachy says:

    Oh she just came over to CDN for the hell of it… BTW that sound you heard was my eyeballs rolling so far back into my head they got stuck. If it is in fact H2BAM I bet she came to spy which is akin to trolling in my book.

  135. JustPeachy says:

    And I am thinking its likely not her. Her username is Happy2BMommy.

  136. readthis says:

    135 – I am with you there. Trolling. lurking, spying. I hope it isn’t her.

    131 – yeah lee would probably have a fit if he didn’t actually send her there to spy. A spy would choose a different name though right? Well a smart spy.

  137. me says:

    At DS, there is a person with that same username.

  138. eeek says:

    I am in awe of mattress pad diapers, and of COURSE you don’t have micro next to a baby’s skin, that stuff is hard-core and sucks moisture out of anything.

    How many times you think you can wash/dry vinyl? And did she actually have this stuff tested to be compliant with laws or did she say “it MUST be safe because it has baby bears on it, it’s MADE for kids”, because that’s all I got from her statements about it’s safety. Someone should ask her if she has the certificates on that stuff, I’d love to see it.

    & someone “stalking” her- wow, they want people to know you sold them some super-crappy diapers before you pawn your stuff off on others. That’s not slander, libel, OR stalking, anyone can go on a public messageboard & say “I bought some of those and they’re made of mattress pads & raw micro next to the skin”. It’s not a legal problem , it’s a friggin’ public service announcement.

  139. altaem says:

    I read the mattress pad diapers thread, and it must have been before it was edited b/c nothing seemed mean to me. Sounds like a couple of issues a) exposed, not completely attached elastic b) microfiber right on baby’s skin c) mattress pad instead of PUL. PUL is pretty trim…and my mattress covers aren’t more trim than PUL, guaranteed.

  140. Madre says:

    here’s the thread of her “stalkers” who are really just disappointed customers and moms disturbed a her using a product w/ pvc.

    and a post of a pm someone whose comments were deleted from the DS thread received. probably from h2bam

    RRR21 Β· Pass a Note!
    Last edited 3/21/2010 5:37pm EDT

    The mod finally replied to me. I want everyone to know I creatd my DS account but never actually used it. I joined last year thought it was in November right after I started CD but it the exact date was Dec 27. (you will see why I say this in a minute) This is her reply:

    I won’t go into what exactly I think of someone who creates an account to get involved in the whole “kookabum” drama… Suffice to say that due to you not being a member here who contributes to this board, I won’t actually take the time to explain my reasoning to you ( as I have a few others who have pm’d and do actually post on this site)

    I will say that those who have actually USED the diapers still have their comments up with the exception of one member who broke the rules by posting private emails :thumbsup:

    I am also forwarding this pm on to the rest of the team.

    Ladies, would one of you help? I’m in a huge rush this morning. Would you please run this IP? ( rrrice21 ) Double check for a proxy server as well if you have time. If you can’t let me know and I’ll do it tonight. If it is found a second account was created by someone just to send me this pm I think both accounts need to be banned.

    Also, I’ve had 4 pm’s from people with very new accounts and from what I have been seeing as I dig it appears to me that this WHAM is actually being followed around the internet by the same handful
    of women? I’ll do more digging on Monday when I have time :thumbsup:

  141. JustMe says:


  142. kitty1163 says:

    How the fuck is that kookaidiot in business? I read the DS thread and some people LIKED them? How is that possible?

    Putting those INSERTS on a baby’s BUM? And the snaps? Are you kidding me?

    She has packages of 12 for $129 … they are NOT worth 10 cents each.

  143. theinvisible says:

    143 I agree 100%. Who are these mamas that like these diapers? Maybe they wouldn’t like them so much if they were the ones who had to wear them.

  144. Taterbug says:

    #143- Obviously, some of the ladies have been drinking too much of the DS koolaid. To some, WAHM means higher quality than mass-production, but to others, it means that poor quality or poor customer service should be overlooked. They are welcome to spend their money on crap. At least they can’t claim that they weren’t warned.

    The stitching on the inserts alone should be considered second quality. I wouldn’t buy inserts that looked like that to use with my Swiffer. It is just barely plausible that the pics were posed to make the diapers look as bad as possible. Unfortunately, the materials she uses will turn off much of her potential customer base, and the construction quality won’t matter.

  145. catlady says:

    I don’t know who the buyer could be but wish I did so I could put on my do not b/s/t list! Who does she think she is to ask something so ridiculous?

  146. DSDM2 says:

    I outted the buyer in post #16. πŸ˜‰

  147. MotherMoonPads says:

    I’m having a hard time with this thread.

  148. Lolanae says:

    148 – I skimmed a few post in that thread and shut it before I chewed some ladies out. My daughter never forgot her daddy in the weeks and months that they were apart when she was less than a year old. I have a picture of her sitting on his lap looking at him like “I have been looking for you EVERYWHERE!”

  149. mmspirit7 says:

    148 i just read it and a few comments ticked me of Autumn didn’t even forget her daddy and he left to go back after rr when she was 2 weeks old. I really didn’t think she would but they were bonded right from the start

  150. monkey says:

    148 Me too.

    I responded. We may be having a hard time on different sides though. I feel for the mama and the mean (even if they weren’t intended to be) things said to her.

    I also hate the fact that if she was a man that thread would probably have gone a much different way and been an orgy of hugs and ss.

  151. kitty1163 says:

    That’s bs. Way to make a mama feel even more guilty over an obviously difficult decision.

    Babies will not forget. BS.

  152. MotherMoonPads says:

    #151, exactly. If it was daddy enlisting, things would be COMPLETELY different in that thread.

  153. monkey says:


    I also just feel like it’s a slight to all of the brave men and women who sacrifice so much to protect their country.

  154. I think it is impossible for a baby under 6 months old to remember someone that has been out of their life for a year.

    Just because a child gets attached or excited to see someone DOESN’T mean they remember them.

    Do any of us seriously remember what happened to us when we were 2 or younger?

  155. werd says:

    I WISH DS had a rep system… my fingers would be aching from all the neg rep I’d be leaving in that thread. WHAT A BUNCH OF BITCHES (especially YOU, homebirthmama!!!)

  156. Just Peachy says:

    I couldn’t even read beyond the OP because I’m already upset and that just upset me more. I feel for her because I know the decision to enlist and leave her baby behind isn’t the easiest. Those ladies who are attacking her need to stfu. Did it ever occur to any of those bitches that maybe she is doing what she feels she needs to do to provide for her family. God forbid a woman WOH before her child is school aged.

  157. smartassmama says:

    I found that one when it just had a few replies. I read just a few past homebirthmom. She has a mighty set of balls on her!

    I couldn’t read much more though. I wanted to cry about the first post. Then she mentioned her son signing “milk” while she was gone for her medical eval and I had to leave the whole thread. Never even replied. Very sad. I cannot imagine the situation they must be in to come to that decision. To leave a small toddler at home. Hurts my heart to just think of it.

  158. sciencefair says:

    That thread is too sad to read.

    However I did notice a new thread from kookabum diapers. Apparently Melinda is changing her diaper lining to PUL because of the drama. If she really thought the stuff was safe, she should be defending her mattress pads. This makes her look like a liar and scammer.

    Anyway, here is the link:

  159. Aj says:

    homebirthmama has always rubbed me the wrong way. She has openly admitted several times that she lives completely off of government assistance for the sole purpose of being a stay at home mom.

  160. Pariah says:

    i had to stop reading that thread. i really want to join the military, and the main thing stopping me is leaving my son for training.

  161. Messy says:

    Sooo. Her new diapers are now covers that you just stick your inserts from pockets in? Look at how much of that PUL will be against the skin. Rash heaven 😦 Or at least uncomfortable… But I guess babies can’t complain @@ and it is better than a mattress between the thighs.

  162. eeek says:

    OK, can I just ask, why the hell is everyone so determined to buy her diapers? There are SO many diaper makers who have moved far beyond the “testing” phase that she’s obviously still in. I don’t get it.

  163. Anna says:

    Eek, I was wondering the same thing.

    And now she’s making a Flip copy? Is that what it seems like to anyone else? I’d rather just buy from CottonBabies and get a decent diaper.

  164. smartassmama says:

    We. We. We.
    She’s a wahm. Does she have a mouse in her pocket? I kinda thought that’s why folks liked wahm products – they were made by “me.” they were the handiwork of one person. All of her “we” just looks like she’s trying to look corporate.

    And if you feel that your materials are innovative and top-o-the-line, don’t change your design. Just keep on making them, stiff as they look. That diaper could have all but walked away all by itself.

  165. JustMe says:

    I just saw the Kookabums thing too. Uh, yeah, what you all said. :dontlikeit:

  166. redfish bluefish says:

    Holy mackerel! Mattress cover diapers?! Wow. Just wow.

    How sweet of her. She’s so money hungry that she’d sell those pieces of crap and have babies suffer!

  167. Sala says:

    A few things. The mom joining the Marines has wanted to do this for years. There has been no change in their circumstances that is forcing this decision. She does not financially need to go. She is drawn to serve in the military. Why is there a different standard for fathers who join the military than for mothers. Does not having a penis preclude her from wanting to serve her country AND her family in this way? Blah blah biological blah. Whatever. He’s her kid, she’s his mom. He’ll know who she is.

    As for the diapers, jeezus, hasn’t this woman heard of testers? Or is she just making dozens of women her testers without actually testing anything? C’mon. It’s common sense to get feedback and actually listen to it throughout the testing stage. Testing can have multiple stages. Her old design was the bestest out there yesterday and she didn’t want to be like everyone else. Now I suspect dozens of moms don’t like what they received or what they were promised and are calling her on her guarantee wanting their money back. And now she’s “new and improved!” Just like some other diaper! Just like everyone else – see!

    And while I’ve never opened a business, I suspect that one really needs to study the one’s chosen field, study business models, study good business practices, have a damned good business plan, and have a stellar product to do well. Not just one of those (if that). Think of all the problems she could have avoided if she’d just thought it out some. I mean, it’s not rocket science to not sell more than you can make in a timely fashion. It’s not that hard to actually run your products by other moms before you start selling en masse – you made it so you obviously already like your idea. Everyone else has their opinion and not all of them are assholes. Some opinions make sense. Maybe there’s a reason no one is using mattress pad material to make diapers, no matter how cute the outside.

    And lastly, it’s WAHM. WAHM. If you are a WAHM, you are not a WHAM. What exactly is a WHAM, anyway? Works hard at mattress-padding?

  168. smartassmama says:

    Must’ve missed where she called herself a wham. Reminds me of George Michael. lol

    and the poster who enlisted/is enlisting didn’t give her reasons (at least not to the point I read). She doesn’t have to by any means, but she said something along the lines of ‘if we’re ever going to have more kids I have to do the now [paraphrased].’

  169. monkey says:


    My son, who met my mom for the first time when he was six months old, certainly remembered her a few months later when we went to visit. He played games he had only played with her, kissed her on the tip of the nose like she had taught him to do and called her by a certain sound.

    We spent 2 months away from my husband when my son was about a year old (taking care of family back in the U.S.). He would see the picture of my husband on my parents mantle and yell, “DAAAADAAAA!” Her son is 15 months which is quite a bit older.

  170. altaem says:

    169 – she linked to her blog in one of her posts, which talks about her reasoning.

    More power to her, seriously, for following her dreams. Her son will be fine. I’m in the “if this was her husband, there would be no issue” camp.

    And later she talks about how she will do Reserves after training, so she will get to be back being a SAHM. She is doing what is right for her, which we have to remember to do as mothers.

    And homebirthmama can jump off of a fucking cliff. Nice support for a fellow mama.

  171. madeira says:

    Hmmm, she’s using a “PUL” made by the American Textile Company. On their homepage this is all it says “American Textile Company is the leading supplier of quality mattress and pillow protectors, bed pillows and MATTRESS PADS to large and small retailers. Our products are designed to improve the quality of sleep”

  172. tlouise says:

    I have a problem with the ‘mom joining the military’ thread too, but apparently a different one than most of you guys have. I’m pretty appalled that someone would leave their child to do something like that. Honestly, reading on her blog, it doesn’t seem like some noble thing that she wants to do for her country, it seems like she wants to achieve her personal goals and life-long dream. Which, I think, should take a back seat to your child’s needs once you’ve made the choice to become a mother.

    And I would absolutely say that same thing about a man joining the military. I’m a pacifist anyway and thus would be opposed to my husband joining the military in any case, but ESPECIALLY if he was joining because it was a life-long dream and not because we desperately needed the money or something.

    I could just never, never leave a child unless I was absolutely forced to. I can’t imagine making a choice like that.

  173. Sala says:

    So every parent should give up their life-long dreams just because they have kids now and the kids should be the focus of everything? Screw that noise. I’m a person first, not just a parent. My kids are happy and shockingly they are not the complete and utter center of my life. Call me selfish (I’ll own that), but this mama is a happy mama.


    Tell me exactly how she would be ignoring her child’s needs. Her husband will be there taking care of their child. If he works, the child will be in daycare or a relative’s care just like every other child of working parents. How is she abandoning his needs if she has a social network that will take care of her family’s needs in her absence? She’s not, she’ll be delegating. She’ll be working, like every other WOHM. She’s just going to be gone a lot longer. And I challenge you to tell every or any parent who joined the service after they had a child how they’re not able to take care of their kids’ needs. That’s crap.

    I’m also appalled that you think the only good reason to join the military is as a last resort or need for money. I mean, there are plenty of banks and liquor stores out there, right?

    Ok, I’m backing away now before I say something really offensive. I’m not even a military spouse and this has me pissed off beyond all reason.

  174. tlouise says:

    I don’t think they should give up their life-long dreams, but I believe that your children should come before your dreams (if they involve leaving them for significant lengths of time) while they’re still very young.

    I think that kids need their mom, and she cannot delegate that to anyone. Her child can be taken care of, but when that child is heart broken and missing his mama, a daycare provider, grandma, or even the child’s dad can’t step in and meet that need. (And I do not devalue the role of a father in a child’s life. Far from it. But at that age, babies are typically much more attached to their moms. Particularly since she’s still nursing.)

    I don’t think that the need for money or a ‘last resort’ are good reasons to join the military. As I said, I’m a pacifist. But I think that if you have a baby and your personal beliefs are such that you want to be in the military, you should only do so if you need to. Not just the military, I think any job that caused you to leave your baby for a long time should only be taken if you absolutely need it. JMO.

  175. monkey says:

    Wow… that’s all I’ve got right now… wow.

  176. Just Peachy says:

    I have to say the idea of giving up everything to be a mom really ticks me off. If you had asked me a few years ago I probably would have agreed with you. However now I have discovered that sacrificing EVERYTHING for your children (and Im not talking about sacrificing for their needs just overall) can and will have a negative impact on how you feel about yourself as well as your children. I refuse to lose my identity solely because I happen to be a mother.

  177. not me at all says:

    There is NOTHING that would entice me to voluntarily leave my child NOTHING.

  178. Lori says:

    I just don’t see how I can show my kids that they need to go after what makes them happy and that they can achieve their goals if I don’t do that myself…. I am not a “Do what I say Not what I Do” type parent.

    I love being a Mom. I am not JUST a mom. I’m a student, worker, wife, daughter, mom. While my son is one of the lights in my life, he is not my WHOLE life. He is a huge part of it, and everything I do is to better our lives as a family. I can’t be a functional, happy mother if I don’t take care of myself as well as my child.

    I think that’s why the little “mother’s helper” prozac was so rampant in the past. Mother’s weren’t letting themselves be anything else. Tell me that won’t send a majority of people (who’s life long dream wasn’t to just be a SAHM) into a depressive spiral.

  179. Aj says:

    178, that’s fine for you, but don’t judge others because they feel differently.

  180. monkey says:


    I can understand that. But some people have dreams and goals or by circumstances outside their control have to work outside the home. And I say again, if it were a man saying this I think a lot of people would be less critical.

    If it’s not the right choice for you, that’s okay, but that doesn’t mean someone else is an inferior mother.

    I’m in the middle of giving up my WOH job to be a SAHM, because it’s what I WANT to do. I’ve had several different careers, I’ve done most of the things that were important to me and now I’m ready to SAHM with my child. But it was my choice, my decision and I think I will be a happier, better mother for having done the things that were important to me.

  181. not me at all says:

    I stayed out of her thread since I have nothing to offer, but there is no way I would make that choice.

    Personally I had nearly 40 childless years so there is nothing more important to me than being with my child.

  182. Lolanae says:

    My husband loves his job as a submariner. Now that we’re back in sea duty, it means that he is gone 3-4 months, then home 3-4 months. No communication really. No phone calls. My daughter misses her daddy a ton. My husband misses us, but he has a job to do. My daughter and I have ways to adapt. For this patrol (which will be her first), we’re going to my parents house. Grandparents and animals to keep her busy. She’ll have a photo album of pics of Daddy.

    They have been apart before. My daughter has had some rough nights. She’s asked me for Daddy when I had no way to even get him on the phone. But you know what – she’s okay. She knows Daddy loves her. She also remembers Daddy.

    I hate missing my husband, and I hate seeing my daughter have the rough nights. That is not enough reason to ask my husband to give up his dream and a job that he loves. That job supports us, allows me to be a stay at home mom to my daughter, keeps us comfortable, and we have insurance.

    Every kind of job/lifestyle has it’s ups and downs. I do believe some of those comments in that thread were beyond harsh and went towards all military, more than just that mom. Military members that I know with children do not willingly want to leave their kids. It’s something they have to do for their job. Most of them didn’t have kids going in. Some did, like this mom.

    From the sounds of it, she’s going reserves? Then after her schooling, barring being called up for deployments, they won’t be apart that much. Oh and if you think the only reason to join the military is desperate financial need, you are really mistaken.

    (Sorry if this rambled…just woke up.)

  183. Messy says:

    I guess *I* am of the feeling that nothing would ever make *me* voluntarily be away from my child(ren) for 3+ months with no contact. When I became a mom, I knew there were some things *I* would not be able to do (or want to do as the case is). Having dreams and goals is great but having brought a life into the world that requires a mother (on a different level than a father or other caregiver) trumps that any day. This mom is still breastfeeding her son… He is going to miss her. I cannot imagine visiting that kind of sadness onto any of my kids that cannot understand the situation. I guess if he were even a few months (years) older it would be better because then maybe he could grasp marking off days til mama comes home and things of that nature.
    That said, this little guy will probably be fine. He will be heartsick though and I would give anything to keep my kids from hurting, even if that meant giving up that dream for that short amount of time.

  184. Myself says:

    I don’t teach my children to only do what makes them happy. I don’t only do what makes me happy. That is certainly a fact.

    You can choose a new goal instead of continuing on with one that might be detrimental to your child’s well-being.

    I constantly have to re-evaluate my goals and see whether they are okay for the well-being of my family or not. If I find them to be then I change them.

  185. Lolanae says:

    Detrimental to the child’s well being?

    I understand this babe is still nursing, and maybe this could have been done a few months down the road when he was weaned, ect.

    But would you say that to any military member that leaves their children?

  186. Myself says:

    I was speaking in general not in reference to being in the military.

    The last post I saw before I posted was 179 and responded in reference to the part about teaching them to do what makes them happy.

  187. Messy says:

    #186 I guess I think there is a difference between a mother and a father of an *infant*. I do not see them in the same light or as being able to offer the child the same emotional/physical aspects of life. Hence why children need both a mother and a father. But if one has to be gone, yep, I would prefer it to be the dad during the infant/toddler/breastfeeding age years.
    (Although, DISCLAIMER, when things are such that the mother CANNOT be there, some fathers step up in amazing ways that make me all mushy like!)

  188. Messy says:

    #187 Oh, me too! I am not specifically referring to military. There are a lot of things in life that can cause the same circumstances.

  189. mamamia says:

    I think its one thing to be a working mom where your baby is in daycare all day, but gets to come home to you at night still and be with you on the weekends (or whenever you are off). Joining the Marine Corps, one of the highest deployable branches, is a totally different thing. She is risking seeing her baby for only a few weeks out of the entire year, and it can happen over and over again.

    A baby’s bond with its mother is a little different than its father. It doesn’t spend 9 months growing in it’s daddy’s womb, it doesn’t nurse off of daddy for months and years. The Maternal bond is so strong and so important. Don’t get me wrong, babies need their daddies, but that maternal bond is something that cannot be replaced. I understand wanting to follow a dream, but this one seems so extreme especially during a time of war when deployments are up. I’m not putting her down, I just think this is such a big gamble and I don’t know if she is looking at the whole picture. She is so concerned with being away from him for a few months of basic training, but what about the possible YEARS she may spend away from him? She is a stay at home mom and her husband works, so she has basically been this baby’s main source of stability for it’s entire life. I can’t help but be concerned for the baby when mommy goes away and he’s too young to understand why.

  190. not me at all says:

    This will get me totally flamed but I think she is selfish. She does not NEED to join the military she WANTS to. I think when you become a parent what you WANT comes second to your child’s needs and that child is a nursing baby.

    If she wanted to run off and join the circus ppl would be raising hell but because it is the military it is okay? I guess I don’t get that. You give up a lot to have a child and getting to do whatever you want is one of them.

  191. ladybugith says:

    @not me at all, no flames here…I was thinking the same thing 😦 I feel that it’s very courageous and honorable, but this is not the time to do it. According to her blog it is HER DESIRE to join and not a NEED based on financial or other reasons. Just something she always wanted to do, but then had a child. I really think now is not the right time to leave a child so young based on one’s own desire. It breaks my heart.

  192. Sala says:

    Apparently this is going to be unpopular with a very loud contingent of people on this blog at the moment but screw it.

    I am very grateful that there are people like her (and her husband) and all the other military members who joined the service because they WANTED to and did not need to. I am thankful for many reasons but not least of which is because otherwise we probably would have the draft or compulsory military service like other countries.

    Think about that, people who think that Mommy (and Daddy) should never leave their families for any reason, much less just a mere want(!). Their service means you don’t have to. Their service means your husbands probably sleep snugly in your beds at night. Their sacrifices mean that we don’t have make the same sacrifices.

    It’s crap like this that makes me wish there was a two year service requirement for every young person, so you (and I) would know exactly what the men and women keeping us safe AND their families go through instead of whining about the damage some other mother is doing to her kid (hers! not yours!) because she wants to follow her heart.

  193. Myself says:

    193 – And what about all the parents who already have a child by the time they reach the minimum year and then to REQUIRE them to serve for 2 years, no thanks.

  194. ladybugith says:

    Sala — I understand and appreciate what you are saying. The difference between the “need” and the “want” comes only into play when considering the age of her child. I am absolutely grateful (coming from a military family) for her sacrifice. I just (personally) do not think this is the right time since it is currently a “want.”

    It’s not about never leaving ones family, it’s about leaving a nursing baby for such a long time. If the child were older, I would not have these feelings…

  195. Sala says:

    Maybe in that case they coulda woulda shoulda thought of that prior to having kids. If they knew they had a two year service term approaching that wasn’t optional if they had kids, maybe not all of them would have had children. And if they did anyway, maybe they would learn what it’s like to have to wonder if their kids would remember them when they got back. And maybe there would be more social networks to help the kids and families if mommy or daddy had to go away because society would be used to their young people doing a term in the military

    Compulsory military service will never happen in the US in our lifetime, I think, but this sense of entitlement, that we as mothers are entitled to never have to leave our kids for a night if we don’t want to for any reason, just pisses me off.

    Not everyone has that luxury. Not everyone wants that luxury. Thankfully you get to choose to stay with your families if that’s what you want. Respect those who choose differently. They love their children no less than you love yours even if they make different choices than you. Do not direct vitriol at them because they are willing to make sacrifices you aren’t. Don’t say they are less of a mother because they are willing to do things you aren’t. Don’t make them feel worse about a hard decision because you can’t imagine being there. Don’t try to destroy someone’s dream just because it’s a want and not a need.

    And most of all, don’t call her less than honorable because she’s following her heart because you are spitting in the face of every military person and every military family who’s serving your country right now or has done so in the past or will do so in the future.

  196. MotherMoonPads says:

    #195, isn’t the “nursing baby” 15 months old? It’s not as if this is an infant who solely relies on mother’s milk for nutrition.

  197. Sala says:

    Ladybugith, the child in question is 15 months old and will be 20 or 22 months when she leaves. Is there any good time to leave a child? Probably no perfect time. But at the very least nursing will be less for nutrition at that point. We’re not talking about an 8 month old. We’re talking about a child who’s nursing 3 times a day, probably more for comfort and connection.

    Maybe she never wanted to nurse past 18 months anyway. Not our business and really, that would not hurt the kid at all. Let’s really not make this about people who choose to nurse to age 2 or beyond and those who are ‘selfish’ and ‘only’ nurse for 6 months, 12 months, 18 months or *gasp*, not at all. Not all of us ascribe to child-led weaning and those kids who are weaned earlier than they want to are just fine. Jeebus, most of us should be cheering that she’s made it to 15 months considering that our society barely supports nursing at all, much less past 6 months or a year.

  198. not me at all says:

    Still a nursing baby IMO. She is going to wean him and disappear from his life for 13 weeks. Would you CHOOSE to do anything that meant NO CONTACT with your 15 month old for over 3 months? I know I would not.

  199. not me at all says:

    As far as age ad leaving goes, there is no perfect time but why not wait until a child is old enough to at least understand that Mommy is gone for a short time but will be back?

  200. wow some of you ladies are VERY rude.

    My husband is in the Military and he left us, He didn’t want to but he did what he had to do for his country and for his family.

    Don’t make US feel bad because my husband is giving up a year of his life to not only make our lives better but others as well.

    being in the military is one of the most selfless acts anyone can do. You ladies do not know what they see.

    My DH loves his job. He did join before we got married and had children, but he joined to help people. Don’t make him feel like you’re better than him because you wouldn’t do it.

    SOMEONE has to!

  201. not me at all says:

    No one has said anything rude here.

  202. MotherMoonPads says:

    ~happy2Bamommy~ It’s probably just me being 41 weeks pregnant talking, but you’re a royal bitch. Since I can’t say that directly to you on DS, I’ll say it here.

  203. MotherMoonPads says:

    See now, and after your next post I DO feel like an overly cranky pregnant woman *blush* I just felt like you were accusing me of starting crap by asking a few simple questions (which really WERE just simple questions).

    Maybe I need to sign off today.

  204. sciencefair says:

    MotherMoonPads…its not just you being 41 weeks pregnant. But if she were 41 weeks pregnant it might explain some of the bitchiness. And I saw your questions and I thought they were reasonable. I sort of snickered at them. I mean yeah she goes and changes the whole design in one day, but now these people are getting something entirely different than they paid for. I think they are screwed if they do, screwed if they don’t.

  205. Lolanae says:

    I am CHOOSING to take my daughter to my parent’s house. We will be leaving before my husband deploys. This is due to scheduling + she won’t have to see Daddy pack up for patrol. Many times in the past two and a half years, we’ve made choices that were the better of two evils when it comes to our daughter and being away. Like when we PCS’d, we went to my parent’s house. DH had a trip or two before the move, and then he could pack our tiny ass apartment without worry of keeping the toddler safe from boxes.

    I do read some comments here as rude, but maybe it’s because I’m biased about the situation. I’ve seen the tears my husband has cried when he comes to being apart of our daughter. Or worries about making sure he keeps his job with the Navy so that we are taken care of. He also has a sense of pride about his job.

    I do know in a heart beat if we could be as secure and him stay home with a “normal” job, he would. As he has told me many times before – he does his job because it keeps us safe at home.

  206. Lolanae says:

    I’m sorry if I’m just being too emotional about this. I just see some posts that are very double standard, and that bothers me.

    I don’t know. Just bleh, I guess.

  207. DSDM2 says:

    Lolanae, you are fine πŸ™‚

    Hello, why don’t you come on out and use your real name? πŸ˜€

  208. mmspirit7 says:

    I don’t know how old this mother is but age plays a roll into when you can join the military maybe she can’t wait. Maybe she waits to join and get the training over with so that she can have another.

    I want people in the military that WANT to be there. Not have to be there. the military isn’t a place to go just because you need money hell it’s not like the pay a ton anyways.

    You should want to be there and do the job that is asked of the not everyone can do it. And this mother you are all talking about has a great husband with support who is willing to give up his job and be a sahd if she should want to go active and be military. She has love and support she supported him and he’s willing to support her and I think that is wonderful. Her son will remember her and adjust it happens all the time in the military and in terms to be 100% honest with three kids and there ages i will say that it’s the my oldest that has more problems when daddy is gone not only because he knows the time but he knows other facts.

    There is no great time to leave your child and it’s not selfish of her to serve her country. I don’t get how it is. She is giving up time with her child and family to serve our country and do something that she is called to do. and if her son is like other military children I know he will be proud of mama.

    My husband has only wanted to be army he wakes up loving going to work…but he hates the time it takes from us. We deal (sometimes not well) but we do. And he wants the person standing next to him to want to be there doing that job and not there for a paycheck. He has seen the difference is the kind of troops people who want to be there are and those that are there for money or just school.

    I never wanted to be parted from my children either because I was selfish…in the end the little over a week we were apart was for the best, mama’s we need to remember we are important too and when you only know yourself as a mom and not a person and don’t have an identity as anything other than a mom. Thats not good for your kids as well.

    13 weeks is a long time but truly in the end it will be a blip to this little boy and not only will he be fine but his mother will have followed a dream and taught him that no mater what you can follow dreams and that sometimes you have to do a hard thing to follow that dream (ie leaving your child for a short time).

    Anyways many of you are harsh there are many mothers in the military. Speaking of which I need to find a story about a mother who did what you think is the only reason a mother should join the military and then when it became to hard and time to leave she ran to Canada. went awol and took money for a job she wasn’t going to do and then went to canada and living off of what she can there and fighting coming back to face her crime. These are not the people you want to be serving your military and protecting and do the works we are doing. You truly want people are are going to want to be there especailly if your loved one is the one standing next to them.

  209. Kelolsen says:

    dudes.. I come here for drama and not mommy wars! Isn’t there a scammer or a big ole’ twatwaffle we can talk about?

  210. DSDM2 says:

    There is a big ole’ twatwaffle in hiding and posting here πŸ™‚ I am waiting for her to come back and chat with me…

    Come out, come out, where ever you are. The new IP doesn’t fool anyone. I promise you, I know who you are.

  211. MotherMoonPads says:

    You know, the kooka diapers lady PM’d me about the reaction towards my questions in her thread. She was *really* nice and professional about it. I was impressed with her response.

  212. amessymama says:

    I think I can guess who hello/twatwaffle is.

  213. DSDM2 says:

    Can you guess who she is on CDN too? I am putting a puzzle together…

  214. not me at all says:

    You know if the Marine to be lady was doing anything else that took her from her baby for 3 months everyone would be up in arms…but because it is the military it is okay? I don’t really get it I guess.

  215. smartassmama says:

    I think there’s a me-sized butt imprint on the Clueless Couch :p

  216. moxy says:

    216 You hit the nail on the head. Your earlier example of joining the circus was a good one. I’m sure there’d be a completely different reaction from many of the commenters if that was the “dream” she was following.

  217. MotherMoonPads says:

    I think because it hits home to MANY moms who have husbands that are away from home in the military.

  218. moxy says:

    219 I think you’re right.

  219. MotherMoonPads says:

    At least that’s why it bugs me. My dd was around 18 months when my (then fiance) husband left for boot camp. He wasn’t even “daddy” yet, but she certainly didn’t forget him and the bond that they had was not broken from the time that he was gone.

  220. JustMe says:

    217 – make that 2

  221. GabrielsMom says:

    You know, there IS a double standard when it comes to mommies and daddies leaving their babies. Both are vital to a babies development IMO.

    It is very specific to the situation. NOT because the mom is going to the military, but beacause the mom is up and leaving her baby for months. The child IS attatched to her, SHE is his main comfort, care giver, the solid in his life. Breastfeeding just strengthens that. I don’t know how some of you are saying that just up and leaving the baby is not going to damage him? I don’t see how it could be anything but damaging to him.

    It is a selfish thing to do. There’s no way around that. She’s up and leaving her baby. For the circus is a good example, but what about a 3 month long trip to europe? being a band groupy? etc. Those are WANTS not NEEDS… just like the mom is doing now.

    She is CHOOSING to go off and do this. Just as she chose to have a baby. There were/are better times for her to do this (before kids, or in 5 years, etc).

    And I would be saying this about any main caregiver of a young child running off for any reason. It has nothing to do with the military.

  222. jeruco says:

    Attachement theory and object relations theory would prove otherwise and that a long seperation of mother and child does have ill affects. Often times people dont ever see the onsent of the affects because they present themselves much later in life for the child. A child will be forced (most often times) to find an object to replace the mother in order to sooth himself. There are phases of a young child’s life where they learn to differentiate themselves and if the primary care giver being mom, is gone, then they struggle to move through those phases in a healthy manner. Later in life the child can have attachement issues in relationships and perhaps trust issues too.
    There are exceptions to every rule, but the psychology behind it is that a young child should have at least one main primary care giver with him or her most of the day. Pulling that care giver from the child’s life and replacing it with another family member for a period of 3-6 months can and will affect the child whether they remember it or not.

  223. monkey says:


    I think it depends on what she was going to do.

    If she was going on a nightclub tour of Europe then yeah, I’d be upset.

  224. Incognizable says:

    All right ladies who is “hello”?? C’mon spill it.

  225. Myself says:

    Yeah Hello, spill!

  226. mmspirit7 says:

    wow bella bean knits post on her fan page about a neg feed back she got.

    and her fb post

    I just want everyone to know that the auctions I run in Brianna’s name are not scams and all the winners were notified and received their winnings..I am so sad to think that someone believes this..To the person who left this negative feedback I really wish you would have contacted me first…I am sad…

    LOL i only share because well seems she cares someone isn’t happy. and I haven’t seen anyone else do it that way

  227. DSDM2 says:

    “hello” why don’t you tell the ladies who you are… on here, DS, and CDN. Please, enlighten them. I already figured you out.

  228. DSDM2 says:

    and I mean BOTH your names on CDN.

  229. theinvisible says:

    someone enlighten us…..

  230. DSDM2 says:

    Well, try these clues…

    Who has an 8 month old son?

    Who has a DH in the military?

    Who uses single sentence paragraphs when posting on forums?

    Who can’t use proper capitalization?

    Who likes to use capitalized RANDOM words?

    Who loves owls?

    Who just got a new cell and moved (therefore has new IPs?)

    Do you need more clues? πŸ˜‰ I’ll let you all figure it out. Or let her come back and tell us we are wrong… and call us cunts and twats, and then deny it was her.

  231. Kimbella says:

    I want to know!

  232. Kimbella says:

    Wow – how pathetic! What are her cdn uns?

  233. Kristen says:

    232- Felishoe?

  234. theinvisible says:

    oh! I’m a bit slow on the uptake but I think I’ve got it. She’s back on CDN!?

  235. DSDM2 says:

    πŸ˜‰ I’m not telling, let her come and tell us.

  236. DSDM2 says:

    And yes, she is back over there.

  237. readthis says:

    Shoe shoe!

  238. Incognizable says:

    Bam, I’m looking forward to this!! :popcorn:

    What’s the new u/n on CDN????

  239. DSDM2 says:

    And I think on DS too. πŸ˜‰

  240. theinvisible says:

    You know I’m over at cdn looking at any posts by a newbie. Any hints as to her identity there?

  241. DSDM2 says:

    The clues I gave you here will lead you to her there. πŸ˜‰

  242. FunnyMama says:

    how much trouble will I get in for outing her??

  243. DSDM2 says:

    Who knows…

  244. FunnyMama says:

    DS, I couldn’t care less. Let’s find out, shall we?

  245. FunnyMama says:

    I’ll let her dig her own grave on CDN

  246. DSDM2 says:

    Man I love twatwaffle Tuesday.

  247. Myself says:

    I backed you up wifey

  248. FunnyMama says:

    oh my green eggs, it is Tuesday, huh?? I’ve had a shitty couple of days so this will put a little sunshine in my life…

  249. Melody says:

    Hey, Hello, AKA Felisha, Fluffybutt, OwlieMama, this one is for you. Read it quick before you’re banned again.

  250. FunnyMama says:

    this seriously makes up for my husband forcing (use the term lightly) me to watch American Idol.

  251. FunnyMama says:

    250 – you know I love you…

  252. Incognizable says:

    ————> Myself …<3 (pink sparkly one)
    You are on the ball ma'am!!

  253. DSDM2 says:

    I am so enjoying this. Felisha, there is no way to hide that much stupid.

  254. Myself says:

    255 – thanks but I had a few hints from DM2

  255. DSDM2 says:


  256. Incognizable says:

    Honestly, they were great clues. I was blindly searching key phrases from the clues on CDN with no luck..I’d still be there!! :blush:

  257. Anna says:

    All the posts outing Felisha were deleted from her intro thread. Fascinating!

  258. FunnyMama says:

    our posts outing her on DS were deleted!!!

  259. FunnyMama says:

    sorry, too slow

  260. smartassmama says:

    Oooook. So I go to walmart and miss the fun?!

    So who’s Snoozie? πŸ˜‰

  261. Messy says:

    Hmmm… Mine will be too then. Either way, she’s a twat and it’s Tuesday!!!

  262. Messy says:


  263. DSDM2 says:

    It is pretty bad when I can figure out who people are in 1-2 posts, lol.

    Give DS time. My guess is that the bannings have to move up the ladder for approval there.

  264. Madre says:

    I just posted one. Wondering if they’ll delete it too.

  265. Kristen says:

    I’m waiting to see if mine goes *poof* as well.

  266. JustMe says:

    Grrr, they deleted my post too! Grrrr.

  267. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    Well, perhaps now CooterShoes will be banned from DS permanently, instead of just the “couple months” she was so proud of.

  268. cheesewhiz says:

    Ooh…gettin’ some popcorn!

  269. DeviateFromTheNorm says:
    Steph posted on CDN that she knows Cooter’s new SN, so why isn’t she banned yet?

  270. smartassmama says:

    I have 2 guesses – either it takes time and everyone has to hold hands and vote anonymously, OR H2BAM will insist it just can’t be true.

  271. cheesewhiz says:

    So who is Snoozie?

  272. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    She’s claiming she’s not CooterShoes on CDN:

  273. smartassmama says:

    Yeah. De-Nile and just a river in Egypt.

  274. smartassmama says:

    *ain’t. How bout I get excited and look like a moron?

  275. cheesewhiz says:

    She’s Erica you guys. And her son is Gavin. You all are SO mean.

  276. Just Peachy says:

    She’s gonna take a picture? Wtf does a picture prove? She can just nab some random chick’s pic off the interwebz claiming its her. Now I wanna see a pic of her with her username written on a piece of paper holding up a copy of today’s newspaper.

  277. DeviateFromTheNorm says:


    Was that obnoxious enough, or do I need more A’s? πŸ˜›

  278. melmelly says:

    Peachy, that is what I was trying to get at, but kind of failed. 😦

  279. Just Peachy says:

    Damn you! I actually scrolled all the way to the right LMFAO.

  280. smartassmama says:

    I’m totally shocked that the comments on DS are still up. Pleasantly surprised, but shocked nonetheless.

  281. Yes, I am JMMS and OwlieMama. I made JMMS before I made OwlieMama which will be the name of my shop and I could not change it after I made it.

    I am not the person in question and if I had a news paper to show I would.

    I offered the Admin of CDN to take a picture of whatever she wanted and post it right away but that is not good enough.

    I do not want my good name smeared because of immature women. If I am not welcome, I am not welcome. I would not want to be apart of a site that treats members the way they did anyway. You women need to grow up.

  282. cheesewhiz says:

    Dude, DSDM2 confirmed that your IP matches the “person in question” as did Melody on CDN.

    Your warts are showing. Time to get back under your bridge.


  283. cheesewhiz says:

    Annnnnnd…she’s banned.

    LOVE it.

  284. Yeah, They confirmed it how?

    They sure have a lot of proof of that right.

    212 Says that the IP’s do not match.

  285. Just Peachy says:

    Well maybe they wouldn’t treat you like that if you weren’t such a lying twat waffle. Deny all you want but you have been found out so you may as well give it up just michael martin’s spouse.

  286. smartassmama says:

    Ah. Peach I didn’t think of that one!

  287. Just Peachy says:

    Actually I cannot take the credit for that one. Someone else told me earlier.

  288. cheesewhiz says:

    #290 – Oops, my bad, since you moved and are using a new IP, it has apparently been confirmed other ways (on TWO different sites). That’s ok, keep arguing with me, you always manage to slip up past the point of return. If you don’t think you’ve done that already, that’s alright. I just made some popcorn.

  289. Why don’t you message Felisha and have her come here and it could also be proven that way.

  290. treeindawind says:

    Felisha, you are more ignorant than we thought if you *actually* believe you can convince us that you are a different person. Just give up. Go find another board to irritate, if there are any left…………

    I had a whole extensive post to you, but I erased it because you really aren’t worth the space on the blog.

    Your computer is your crack and you need an intervention. At least for the sanity of others that are subjected to your uneducated, childish, just plain trash ramblings.

  291. Oh, And your avatars do not change when you change your screen name.

  292. my other comment went into moderation..

    Why don’t you message her and have her come here it could be proven that way.

  293. treeindawind says:

    Let’s add Mulitple Personality Disorder to the mix.

  294. magpiedpiper says:

    Notice how both here on the blog and on CDN “hello” was unable to use “a part” instead of the incorrect “apart”? Fluffy did the same thing.

  295. magpiedpiper says:

    and omg, you guys will just die at the google image results for Erica and Gavin. Wonder where she got the name ideas…

  296. thewayhome says:

    at the same time “hello” most normal people if mistaken for someone else might get upset but at the same time they would be working at trying to prove who they really are. Not calling names and getting all up in arms. Like you seem to be doing. Have fun while it lasts.

  297. thewayhome says:

    oh my eyes they burn
    bad images poor choice of names.

  298. Roxyrocks says:

    FluffyASSFelishaNastyCootershoe really you need to get the fuck off here and get a damn life! What did you get banned off ALL the message boards that you are trying to come back with new UN’s? You have some mental problems and need to get help. I hope there is someone responsible watching over your son. I really worry about him with a mother who is a nut job like you.

  299. Roxyrocks says:

    Why am I in moderation?? 😦

  300. cheesewhiz says:

    #299 WTF – Felitwat sure has a thing for pics of vag, tits and ass.


  301. melmelly says:

    298- I noticed “apart” too.

  302. Roxyrocks says:

    FluffyASSFelishaNastyCootershoe really you need to get the fuck off here and get a damn life! What did you get banned off ALL the message boards that you are trying to come back with new UN’s? You have some mental problems and need to get help. I hope there is someone responsible watching over your son. I really worry about him with a mother who is a nut job like you.

  303. cdnation says:

    Hello, if you change your email here the little monster changes. but your ip has been verified that it matches an ip used by fluffybutt at DS. So yes the ip does match, in more than one place.

    You know what they say…if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck.

  304. DSDM2 says:

    Felisha used the same IP on DS under “FluffyButt” that she used to register for the name JMMS (Just Michael Martin’s Spouse?) on CDN. Then the new IPs she had there, match the IPs here. So she has been tied back to Felisha.

    It was and is totally obvious. In one post you showed your twat.

  305. DSDM2 says:

    Bye Bye now πŸ™‚ Once again you aren’t welcome here.

    Shooooooooooe—-t. You got caught.

  306. sciencefair says:

    DSDM2 LOL at the Shoooooe-t

  307. No One Important says:

    And she is banned on DS too now πŸ™‚

  308. annoyed says:

    I am a military wife & I can attest to the fact that it is detrimental(sp) for the kids to be away from a parent that often. So many kids here have behavior issues – big ones that were not there before the repeated deployments. The kids I have seen that have 2 parents in & deploy on opposite schedules are worse since they are rarely a family unit all together. I am not knocking the Army. It is my family’s livlihood. It does cause problems though. All around. My son’s old therapist told me she was hiring more therapists for her offices since the military kids keep needing therapy due to the deployments that don’t seem to end. They are too much – too often & the kids are paying the price. Sorry for the rant, it is just something that is very dear to my heart.

  309. FunnyMama says:

    oh boo, that was anticlimactic

  310. DSDM2 says:

    Yup. She was caught, wanted us to invite “felisha” so they could post at the same time under different ips, LOL, and when we said no, she didn’t know what to do. Can we say “attention whore”?

  311. Rika says:

    Anticlimactic indeed.

    Now, every time I watch “Cars” and hear Mater say “Shooooooooot,” I’m gonna think of roast beef cooter. 😦

  312. No One Important says:

    Have you guys seen her latest post on her (cooter shoe’s) blog? Funny.

  313. FunnyMama says:

    320 – hook a sister up with a link?

  314. FunnyMama says:

    I’m a wicked lazy interwebzer

  315. FunnyMama says:

    thank you, you’re a sweetheart, I don’t care what they say

  316. FunnyMama says:

    she got all introspective and shiz, huuuhhh?? :insert massive eyeroll:

  317. DSDM2 says:

    Kristen, if you are the kristen from KnitsOnEarth, you might want to read Fluffy-shoe’s blog comments on the “I’m being scammed” blog.

  318. Myself says:

    And if you aren’t, then I emailed KnitsOnEarth to give them a heads up

  319. readthis says:

    I ruined three white shirts today in my laundry. Can I blame a WAHM for it? Nevermind

  320. readthis says:

    Is it your Kristen? F-shoe says it is. I would like to know.

  321. Just Peachy says:

    Kristen doesnt do tampons does she????

  322. amessymama says:

    She does longies though. It doesn’t matter because I wouldn’t trust anything funkycrotch has to say.

  323. readthis says:

    I took it to mean 2 different knitters. Maybe I misread. Pay Pal will deal with it if it is a legitimate claim. If I were Kristen, I would want to clear my name if shoe shoe is fibbing.

  324. smartassmama says:

    Me thinks she realizes that she was q great big ole twunt to a lot of people. She doesn’t know the identity of everyone who posts and comments here. So hindsight’s 20/20, and she’s realizing that she very well could have pissed off someone that she sent a buttload of money to, water bill’s due, and she is worried that she might have shown her ass to the wrong mama?

  325. readthis says:

    It would be very easy for a knitter to take advantage of Shoe Shoe since she would get no sympathy here. I hope that isn’t what is happening. I hope she gets her longies or her money.

  326. What the hell did I do to any of you!?

    Seriously. LEAVE ME ALONE! I’m sick and tired of it.


    I don’t give a shit what you say about me here but stop fucking coming to MY blog and MY myspace and MY face book and MY husbands and moms! LEAVE US ALONE.

    333, Just because someone doesn’t like me doesn’t mean they can steal from me. That is against the law.

  327. What the hell did I do to any of you!?

    Seriously. LEAVE ME ALONE! I’m sick and tired of it.


    I don’t give a shit what you say about me here but stop fucking coming to MY blog and MY myspace and MY face book and MY husbands and moms! LEAVE US ALONE.

    333, Just because someone doesn’t like me doesn’t mean they can steal from me. That is against the law.

  328. DSDM2 says:

    Felisha, we have asked you over and over to stop coming here. Had you not come back under a NEW name AGAIN, then we wouldn’t be having this conversation at all, would we?

    By the way, that 3month ban? I would guess it is forever now πŸ™‚

  329. Seriously, You are a fucking stupid ass bitch hiding behind a deck of cards protecting scammers.

    You have to hid behind a fake screen name just to protect your fucking ass.

    I honestly don’t give a shit what you say or how you say it.

    LMAO You claim to protect members from DS allowing scammers. Yeah, You set a perfect example.

    Have your fucking drama whore members stop coming to my god damn blog and maybe I won’t come to your cunt sucking fest of a blog.

  330. Wow, That immature that you have to edit my comment?

    I’m done. Leave me alone, and I’ll leave you alone.

  331. DSDM2 says:

    You are such a nice person Felisha! This couldn’t have happened to anyone nicer, huh? I don’t think it is cool for anyone to get scammed, but the problem here is that you have NO credibility. None. Absolutely zilch. You are a liar, who came back under multiple UNs, got caught, and even was going to try to be a WAHM under a new UN. That is a scammer in the making.

    Good luck finding somewhere online that won’t kick you off for being the twatwaffle you are. I want to let you know that this blog has never brought me more happiness then when I saw you post yesterday. I without a doubt knew it was you, and was able to confirm it 100% with both diaperswappers and clothdiapernation. It was good to know that they don’t want the likes of you back on their boards.

  332. smartassmama says:

    Felishoo. I don’t know your mama. I don’t know your husband. I’ve never found you on FB or Myspace (who the he’ll even uses that anymore dude? So ’07 ;)).

    You wouldn’t have known what we were talking about when it came to Owliemama and jmms if you weren’t actually her. Some of us might have a bitchy streak, but we’re pretty smart cookies.

    And if you can’t stand the heat, stay outta the kitchen, young lady. If you can’t take the names we dish out, I’d suggest dropping the Cword and the Wword from your vocab. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Don’t throw stones if you live in a glass house. And all that jazz.

  333. smartassmama says:

    P.s. I (333) never said anyone should or would scam you. Rather I said that maybe you bought a clue and realized you might have just shat where you ate.

  334. DSDM2 says:

    And to set the record clear, we do NOT PROTECT SCAMMERS. That is hilarious to even insinuate seeing as we dedicate the time and effort into outting them and bringing the names of scammers and idiot trolls (like yourself) to light here. I don’t care if a scammer is a regular poster here, if they get caught, they get called out. There is no favoritism… other then the fact that we favor everyone over you.

  335. Nice, You favor scammers over me. Real nice.

  336. DSDM2 says:

    Also, no comments have been edited other then adding your name to them.

  337. smartassmama says:

    Eh. Lesser of two evils.

    In other news, how’s the weather in your neck of the woods gals?

  338. Just Peachy says:

    It says she is waiting on some tampons. Nothing about longies.

  339. Still think I’m lying?

  340. DSDM2 says:

    No one said you were. We just said you are not credible.

  341. Well, That doesn’t change the fact that I feel like i’m being scammed out of 120$.

    And I don’t care what you think of me, Scamming someone, no matter who it is, is wrong.

  342. smartassmama says:

    No one said anything to the contrary.

    And the $ comes first. πŸ˜‰

  343. I don’t care how it goes.

    You don’t say dollars 5 you say 5 dollars.

  344. DSDM2 says:

    No one is saying you deserve to be scammed. We are saying that you have shit where you ate, and that if it was going to happen to someone, we would rather it be you then some who we actually like.

  345. Very nice. Glad to see you have your morals in order.

    Also, Seems like you don’t care in preventing it from happening to someone else.

  346. DSDM2 says:

    Felisha, I am done with you again. You are back on my blog being a twat.

    No more posts will be approved.

  347. haha DSDM2, You’re so funny. I hope karma comes and kicks you in your nasty ass some day.

  348. sciencefair says:

    The weather is cold and rainy. But for some reason I think I am in Tuesday part deux (and for certain people its pronounced ‘duh’). It figures that when she gets busted she starts filling the blog with her filthy comments.

  349. DSDM2 says:

    And as for that last post, YOU HAVE NOT BEEN SCAMMED YET. There is nothing to prevent. If you do get scammed, honestly, I will laugh. You made your own bed, and are old enough to fucking lay in it, get over yourself, leave us alone, stop coming here under new names, and fuck off.

  350. amessymama says:

    Peacy, it’s in her comments.

    Does anyone else think that the “hi there” commenter on her blog, is actually her? She’s talking to herself. That’s just sad.

  351. amessymama says:

    Uhh, I mean Peachy.

  352. felishasjourney says:

    HiThere isn’t me. I’m sure she can come here and tell you that as she hates you all as much as I do.

    And DSMD you are a fucking cunt. Seriously, I don’t care if you approve this. I know you’ll still read it.

    One day, You’re going to get banned from DS and you’re going to get scammed out of a LOT of money, and I don’t care.

  353. sciencefair says:

    I bet hithere is her other personality. Heck, it might even be the nice one.

  354. smartassmama says:

    I’m really not sure who that is. Janeen always just uses her name.

    It’s actually quite nice out here. For now. I think the damn rain will be in later though. But after nap we’re gonna have a Popsicle in the yard and “outside color” (sidewalk chalk).

  355. thewayhome says:

    I did think anyone said anything about her family.

    Weather is beautiful here. Spent time out side cleaning up dog crap. Fitting isn’t it.

  356. DSDM2 says:

    I think it is all in her head. She really needs to see a doctor about her issues.

  357. DSDM2 says:

    I bet if Janeen sees all the throwing of the “c” word, she will not be your friend πŸ™‚ She can’t stand that word, it got her BIL killed by her mom, remember?

  358. thewayhome says:

    ah, crap I ment we didn’t say anything about her family.

  359. Just Peachy says:

    Felisha why exactly do you think you are being scammed? You said she was sick hence the lack of contact plus from that screen shot it appears she refunded you 5 bucks. Tell me what scammer refunds part of your payment. Also it has only been a month since you made your payment. Many knitters have disclaimers that it could take 4-6 weeks for customs and you have 2 pairs of longies being knit. Also take into account Kristen is in Canada as well so thats an even longer wait time. Why not instead of being a big ole cunt bag you just tell her to refund your money because you are an impatient fucking twatwaffle mmmkay?

  360. DSDM2 says:

    Kristen is in Canada, right? So there wouldn’t be a DC# to give, right? Is Felisha that stupid? Why would she pay international texting rates to send a photo?

  361. magpiedpiper says:

    Wait, so according to felisha it’s not okay for anyone to say that she deserves to be scammed because she’s such a horrible person, but felisha can say the exact same sentiment to DSDM2 and it’s okay?

    Hypocritical much?

  362. smartassmama says:

    Kristin, if felatio does back out and you are forced to refund, I may be interested. I think our kids are close in size and I’d consider buying so you aren’t stuck with something unusable to you.

  363. Myself says:

    I won an auction/raffle to have something made by Kristen/in? It did take some time. Not sure exactly how long. I would say from the time I won to the time I received the item was 4-8 weeks , it seemed like a long time because I was anxiously waiting, but instead of doing anything I just impatiently waited, I didn’t even email her.

    Holy run-on sentence. Sorry.

    Point being, email the mama and wait. If that doesn’t work, another email, if THAT doesn’t work, file a claim with PP.

  364. Kristen says:

    Well, it must be a different Kristen because it’s not me. πŸ™‚

    I’m not that desperate for $ to get into a transaction with Felitwat.

    But thank you all for looking out for me.

  365. zamgrawrz says:

    Uh…I don’t even know Felicia and I can tell by the writing style that its the same person. Sad. >.<

  366. Incognizable says:

    Someone call animal control there is a crazy rabid bitch on the loose claiming to be a victim of a scam!!

  367. cheesewhiz says:

    So I read on *that* blog that they have just bought a house so they can have more kids.

    NEWSFLASH: You have been banned from seemingly all boards where you can post dramarrific threads about the health of said child/children. You can’t possibly have more kids, because you won’t have anywhere left to go to ask for advice and then not take it.


  368. Just Peachy says:

    Please do your children a favor and wait a few years before you have another one. Seriously let your baby be a baby and give yourself time to grow up a little.

  369. felishasjourney says:

    372, myself: Was one of the emails that was in my picture of our transaction one of the ones you used?

    377, Peach: Like you guys would even care.. I do plan on waiting until my husband comes home and we did not buy a house to have more children. We bought a house because it was the right time for us. If we have more in that home we’re fine with that, if not we’re fine with that too.

  370. eeek says:

    Yeah. I had this weird vision of felishoe disappearing after she was banned everywhere, and then going off and growing up, just leaving this whole drama cycle behind.

    Her need to try again, to prove we were wrong, is just kind of sad. And then she lashes out violently when she failed at her attempts to show us she really WAS cool. You know she had a plan, she was going to teach us meanies a lesson, her new persona was going to be a popular & loved WAHM.

    I agree, I hope, very much, she waits before having more kids. If you can’t be happy with yourself, if you just desperately need other people to pay attention to you, if you are willing to be hated for the attention it gets you- PLEASE don’t take on the responsibility of more kids. Kids need a parent who can give, and give as much as is necessary.

  371. redfish bluefish says:

    :O at her blog replies to the tampon tester WAHM. What a fuckwad!

  372. redfish bluefish says:

    is she banned from here again or free roaming?

  373. DSDM2 says:

    She is reading πŸ™‚ But for the moment, she is banned from posting.

  374. Just Peachy says:

    I bet she is going nuts not being able to respond to stuff.

  375. MotherMoonPads says:

    Felisha, I sincerely hope that you will be removing the info about the tampon testers from your original blog post as you promised the WAHM in your responses/apology to her on your blog.

  376. MotherMoonPads says:

    Why am I in moderation?

  377. Just Peachy says:

    Did you type out Felitwats name?

  378. MotherMoonPads says:

    Yes, I did Peachy.

    Here it is without that.

    F. I sincerely hope that you will be removing the info about the tampon testers from your original blog post as you promised the WAHM in your responses/apology to her on your blog.

  379. werd says:

    Seriously, Celia is WICKED nice and a stand-up WAHM – shame the fuck on you for messing with her like that.

    SOO glad I said no to you when you messaged me for pads. You’re a nut job!

  380. Myself says:

    werd – you know she only wants your pads for the baby dust you add

  381. smartassmama says:

    Ooooo. Yeah. All the more reason to refuse service. Yow.

  382. sciencefair says:

    390 – Aparrantly the WAHM sold 7 items to a lady who had them ALL coma apart and threw them out and wants a full refund. Then the owner of the forum where the transaction took place jumped in and stuck a size 9 in her pie hole.

  383. Taterbug says:

    And apparently, this thread might shine some light on things:

  384. thismelrocks says:

    I knew something was up with the OP. I remembered her name from somewhere.

  385. Kitty says:

    aww howd you know what size shoe i wore sciencefair?? LOL

  386. FunnyMama says:

    good catch, Taterbug!!

  387. Taterbug says:

    395-I cannot take the credit. Someone else on CDN linked in her thread.

  388. FunnyMama says:

    yeah, just now read that.

  389. Kitty says:

    hmm my last post didnt show up? is it in moderation or something?

  390. DSDM2 says:

    There were so many links that the post was marked as spam. You are fine now.

  391. DSDM2 says:

    WTF is wrong with that skirtie? How is the waistband like that?

    Can someone give details, I don’t feel like researching right now.

  392. Aj says:

    Wow, those are some quality products you’ve got there.

  393. smartassmama says:

    Dude. Either the wings are super huge, or those are some short pads. I’m fat. That wouldn’t fly here.

  394. smartassmama says:

    And I’m guessing that waistband was off because the friend re-sewing them took it off, right?

  395. smartassmama says:

    Oh. And the pads’ stitching was totally wonky. I didn’t overlook it, I was just struck by how funny the pads looked at first glance.

  396. amessymama says:

    Am I the only one not seeing a skirty? Unless the skirt part fell off too.

    At this point, I don’t trust the elusive customer. She could have done that herself. Doesn’t make sense I know, but neither does not having pics because you threw the items out, then all of the sudden, you have pics.

    We all know, or should, that you can’t get your money back unless you send the item back.

    Yeah, the pads look pretty bad. At least the purple on did, the pink one just look thick and uncomfortable.

  397. smartassmama says:

    That’s the part that got me from the thread. clique or not, crappy work or not, you don’t just throw it away AND expect money back. It’s one or the other.

    I actually (:bag on head:) felt kinda bad for the OP, and thought about clicking one of her links to see if there was something I might buy. Theeeeennn I saw the link back here and read her history of Recycled FreeCycle for money. No thanks. πŸ˜‰

  398. Kitty says:

    I believe that the skirty part actually fell off when the waistband did?? At least, thats what I am getting from the story I was told. The skirty part was knit so maybe it ripped out the seams and fell off? IDK

  399. amessymama says:

    You’d think that would be included in the pic though.

    Do you think the buyer will ever come on and try to explain herself?

  400. theinvisible says:

    Kitty, you should have posted those in the thread if it is allowed. The buyer is sol because she threw the items away- that’s a hard lesson for her. The pads combined with the soaker show her quality of work in general though and maybe people should see that. Very enlightening.

  401. eeek says:

    OK, I’ll say no one should ever refund without a return. Anyone who expects that is just wrong.

    Her stuff has always looked shoddy to me though. How do people not see the crooked seams and general wonkyness? I guess she’s new, people like to try stuff out…. but sellers need to actually figure out how to sew before they charge money for it.

  402. Kitty says:

    im not sure if its allowed since it may be determined a “call out” idk…

  403. Taterbug says:

    eeek-The problem, from looking at the seller’s HC, is that the pics on there are just poor enough, and just small enough, that you can’t quite be certain if you’re looking at poor product, or poor product photos. At least with the clothing. The pads don’t look so hot even with giving the benefit of the doubt.

  404. amessymama says:

    Uhh, well there’s a link to the pics now.

  405. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    Okay, honestly, if you actually LOOK at the sellers photos of her goods, most of it is uneven and, well, just as it appears here. When she offered to send MC for a CWCB game, did anyone actually look to see what the quality of her product was?

  406. theinvisible says:

    WHY are people so reluctant to leave honest feedback for shitty work???? This wahm thinks her products are fine and potential buyers are looking at good feedback from buyers who actually have her products so they buy. All because people are pussing out of actually telling it like it is. GAH! No way was everyone who bought something from her happy if that is her level of quality.

  407. Kitty says:

    415- No I don’t think anyone had paid attention to her products at that time… I guess we ASSume that if you are going to send in something as a free prize to sort of get your name out there, then maybe you would make sure the product actually looked decent and uh, worked?

  408. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    416- Agreed. Similar to DiapyDooDiapers/Happymom83. Her diapers are AWFUL, her shipping is super slow with no communication, but she sells them SOOOOOO cheap and the prints are cute, so people don’t say anything. My one neutral I left her that was kinder than it should have been was met with a convo by her that was quite defensive and less-than-stellar CS.

  409. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    417- True… LO L

  410. Taterbug says:

    416-There is that too. You could look at a pic of a wipe, for example, and think, “Gee, that looks a little crooked, but she has all positive feedback. Maybe the WAHM just needs to learn to iron her stuff before she takes photos.” If you found her soakers by doing a search, you wouldn’t necessarily see how bad some of her other stuff looks.

    I wonder how many buyers were unhappy and just didn’t leave feedback.

  411. MotherMoonPads says:

    You know, I KNEW I recognized the name (motherof3sons). She was brought up on the blog a few weeks ago, because she posted pictures of her VERY FIRST mama cloth in the mama cloth chat, and opened her WAHM wares mama cloth thread the same day.

  412. .bin. says:

    Her stufs shitty, but thats not the point. The point is that the buyer told her she threw it out but wanted a refund, then claimed someone had it for fixing, then no she couldn’t take photos because it was in the garbage, now it’s there but broken.

    Who gives a shit who craptacular she sews, unless she gets her stuff back she doesn’t owe anyone a refund. period.

  413. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    422- Agreed. The buyer is cuckoo for thinking her sack of lies will get her a refund, and the seller is cuckoo for thinking it’s impossible for her stuff to fall apart in the wash. That much is clear given the above photos in post 398.

  414. MotherMoonPads says:

    Oh I totally agree #422. I wouldn’t give a refund without having the product back in my hands either.

  415. Myself says:

    423 – I remember her, obviously she didn’t listen to the advice she was given

  416. Catrinau says:

    The workmanship is definitely not great on those. I don’t care, though, the buyer was in the wrong on this one. She should have emailed the seller and told her of the issues. She should have taken pics of them BEFORE she tore them apart to get fixed. She should have sent them back to get a refund.
    And if other people had issues with this woman’s work, then they should have been telling her and leaving appropriate feedback. She thinks her work is fine because everyone keeps giving her positive feedback. Bleh … what a big mess.

  417. eeek says:

    Re-reading that thread was good, it reminded me of cats making pads and “For Pussy, by Pussy”. If I’m ever independently wealthy I’m so stealing that and opening up an etsy store.

  418. Messy says:

    The *buyer* never said she threw it all away. The OP said the buyer told HER that she threw it all in the trash… Just throwing that out there since pics are popping up and all. I think the OP is probably not lying, but her crappy sewing is irritating me and the previous scamtastic antics of the OP make me question her integrity.

  419. eeek says:

    Ooooh, good point Messy! That’s always the problem with one sided forum arguments, it FEELS like we know what’s going on.

  420. Sala says:

    At least on the cdn thread she’s owning that she screwed up big time selling the stuff she got off freecycle and says she deserves the comments regarding her actions in that case.

  421. kelolsen says:

    smartassmama Says:
    March 25, 2010 at 8:30 pm
    And I’m guessing that waistband was off because the friend re-sewing them took it off, right?

    don’t DARE ask that innocent question. You might get pounced on. (eye roll) LOL

  422. Spangle says:

    What the hell is up with this? In this Qbaby thread this mama says these diapers are crap and garbage and she’d never put them on her baby. She also says she would sell them on ebay but since they’re crap she’s just going to give them to her daughter.
    (Hers is post #29)

    But here they are posted. Doesn’t sound like she thinks they’re crap when she’s trying to sell them to some other poor mama.

  423. Thud says:

    Cutzie does not say ‘cute-sie’. it says ‘cut-zee’. that alone has bugged me from day one.

  424. werd says:

    Those pads will give me nightmares tonight *shudder*

    … and she charges more than me. SHIT, I need to up my prices!

  425. treeindawind says:

    So call me dumb, but is motherof3sons the seller or the buyer of these products? I’m confused and I am in the middle of a transaction with her, I want to make sure I am not going to get screwed in the long run KWIM?

  426. Just Peachy says:

    She is the seller of aforementioned crappy products.

  427. treeindawind says:

    Ah I see now, thank you. Was she also the Freecycle to FSOT lady, or is that someone different. I am probably delusional from lack of sleep, but I can’t keep track of the blog today! My head is spinning lol.

  428. Just Peachy says:

    Yup that was her as well.

  429. redfish bluefish says:

    Oh wow. I feel bright….I welcomed the buyers friend to CDN earlier.

    Crazy shiz yo. I’ll be avoiding the OP and Srodgers or w/e her UN is.

  430. melmelly says:

    440- I love the second response you gave her. πŸ™‚

    Is mommyz here? I like how she put her welcome in red and caps after werd had said to not yell at her.

  431. melmelly says:

    After werd told the op to not yell at her…not mommyz.


  432. insomniac says:

    dude…those pads are insanely BAD.

    The skirty pic still have me stumped as there should be more thread and unless the unraveling thread was just pulled completely out by someone it could not have just disappeared and the whole band be off. It just does not work that way.

    417..ITA!!! If a product is bad then tell the wahm or leave the appropriate damn feedback!

    and all off this still does not excuse the buyer from being an asshat for demanding her money back without a product to return.

  433. eeek says:

    Thud- exactly, I mentioned to a friend before that it made me think of stabby little toddlers with switchblades. Just wrong….

  434. DSDM2 says:

    433, she doesn’t say anything good about the diapers and is selling them $10 for 3 PPD. I don’t see where she is doing something bad.

  435. Myself says:

    Isn’t there any new drama? No new posts in 9 days. πŸ˜₯

  436. MotherMoonPads says:

    No kidding, #446. I’m 9 days overdue. Give me something to read!

  437. Myself says:

    oh wow, maybe you will have the baby on my son’s bday, lol

  438. smartassmama says:

    *sigh* Nothing in over a week? lol

    O/T – there’s a user on DS, fanoshoes. Am I the only one who reads it “fan o’ shoes” and thinks of feleecha?

  439. smartassmama says:

    I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.

    If you cannot even follow simple rules like buckling your own seatbelt, not putting a child under 4 in a booster, and, oh put down the B doubleE Rs when a keyboard is near, you don’t need to try and tell other people how to be safe with their infants, toddlers, and small children. I’m guessing Tia isn’t a CDN member. Part of me wants to email her – “Hey. Emy_lou can’t form adult sentences. She shouldn’t be doing any form of safety service. she’s a twit.”

  440. Aj says:

    Unless it’s a pimp with the name Fanos’ Hoe’s πŸ™‚

  441. smartassmama says:

    Don’t mess with that hoe. She belongs to Fano! He’ll cut you.

  442. smartassmama says:

    I think I was being extra thorough posting that link twice. My apologies. It’s the B doubleE R.

  443. DSDM2 says:

    Sorry ladies, it is pretty quiet over there without Fellie-twat posting and stirring the shit. There are some scammings going down in the TF forum, but nothing is jumping out as “Oh I know that one” yet.

  444. redfish bluefish says:

    Ty 441 =D

    Here’s to hoping for new dramaz soon. πŸ˜›

  445. jeruco says:

    looks like unique gifts is at it again after her apology of it being a mistake

  446. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    456- In her defense, if she’s shipping it Priority, a FRB that would fit that would be $10.95 to ship.

  447. angelique says:

    I don’t think fleece blankets are “unique gifts”. Used kids clothing certainly isn’t unique. $60 for a fleece blanket?

  448. JustMe says:

    Here’s something a little interesting. Where are our amazing Private I’s?

  449. MotherMoonPads says:

    After a LONG and difficult labor and delivery, Eleanor Agnes was born at home at 10:02 AM this morning. She was 8 pounds 4 ounces and 22 inches long! I credit my fantastic husband for helping me through everything, and want to thank Jill and Vanessa for being awesome labor support and knowing just what to do.

  450. cubanita says:

    congrats mama!!!!

  451. Just Peachy says:

    YAY! Congratulations on your new baby girl πŸ™‚

  452. DSDM2 says:

    Congratulations MotherMoonPads! πŸ™‚

  453. TaraC says:

    Wonderful news, congratulations MotherMoonPads!

  454. Sarah C says:


    #459 – after less than 5 minutes searching (so therefore I could be wrong since I didn’t put much time into it) my guess is

    She replied to one of the OP’s ISO posts, her HC is inactive, and she is from Indiana like the OP is.

    I don’t know what is up with the chick on that thread talking about how people should just let others find out for themselves if she is a shady seller. I live in Indiana too and wouldn’t want to find out the hard way.

  455. TeamB4me says:

    465 My vote is that the sock-chick is BFF’s with the other party or is really that new and naive….

  456. TeamB4me says:

    Oh …ha. She is a grandma (according to one of her ten post) and she is CLUELESS about the CDing community….explains that.

  457. smartassmama says:

    That was my first thought too. Either a friend or alter-ego. Or another “MIL.”

  458. JustMe says:

    465 – thanks for the research! I had to run out of the house, so I couldn’t commit to doing my own searching (besides the fact that I’m really bad about being a sleuth).

    I do see that the person you linked has 2 negative fb saying people never got their trade items or communication.

  459. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    460- Aaaaaaaah, so happy for you and your family, and REALLY happy for you that she finally decided she wanted out. πŸ˜€

  460. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    Odd request- Can some one PM me on CDN? I need some investigation done on DS that I cannot do myself, because I cannot search member profiles, and I’m awful at figuring who’s who on here, other than a few obvious ones. :-X

  461. sciencefair says:

    459 – I have done trades with the OP in that thread and she is super sweet. People that screw nice people suck.

  462. sciencefair says:

    I am obvious, you can pM me cause I don’t know who you are.

  463. smartassmama says:

    Congrats MotherMoonPads!

    I doubt I am intuitive enough to investigate well. But I can try if you want?

  464. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    PM’d you, 473, Thanks! πŸ™‚

  465. Myself says:

    Man, I missed a chance to investigate, stinkers!

  466. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    LOL- It turned out to be nothing exciting… I hope. πŸ˜‰

  467. Madre says:

    Congrats on the baby!!

  468. ΕΎΓ‘ba says:

    Congratulation’s on your baby girl!

    I remember when she was looking for someone to make her sweater into woolies. I actually pm’ed her, but never heard back. Sucks to be taken advantage of, esp. when it was someone you did a B/S/T with before and thought all was good.

  469. monkey says:


    Hurray! Yay!

    I want a baby. 😦

  470. jeruco says:

    457- I would agree except her other listing for the same thing at retail price has priority shipping for $7.99

    The pillow wouldnt likely weight more than 1lb which would be no more than $5.50 to ship priority. Even 2lbs wouldnt be $10 priority.

  471. Aj says:

    This birth story had me cracking up:

    Congrats on your baby girl MotherMoonPads!

  472. FunnyMama says:

    Congrats on the baby girl!

  473. Sala says:

    Yay, baby!

  474. DSDM2 says:

    482, I’m calling troll. Google her. She is the new Feilitwat.

  475. DSDM2 says:

    I have been watching her since she posted her story BTW, lol.

  476. Aj says:

    I figured as much, but the story is still hilarious–off to google…

  477. redfish bluefish says:

    Okay people, lemme in on the linkage please. I refuse to go to DS anymore, so I’m lost.

    CONGRATS MotherMoonPads! Can’t wait to see your birth story/pics! ❀

  478. amessymama says:

    Just googled the new I mean drama feli. Here’s a totally believable one for ya all.

  479. amessymama says:

    I don’t know what the freak I was typing up there. And the link doesn’t work, but I’ll let you guys try to find it. My head hurts.

  480. DSDM2 says:

    She has a lot of posts there on that site, and is called a liar straight out.

  481. Just Peachy says:

    So the birth story is fake?

  482. Just Peachy says:

    Someone go poke her for me!

  483. amessymama says:

    Dude, it has to be. Or at least majorly bedazzled (that would be embellish overkill).

  484. Just Peachy says:

    Oh I definitely think shes a troll now. She says she just had a mc in February yet delivered a healthy baby just recently? Not possible and its all I have not to call her out on that baby gaga forum.

  485. theinvisible says:

    She gave birth in late october, started ttc in January and had a loss in february. She’s 18, lives at home with her mom, bf and sibling so that sounds like a great idea. Her birth story is full of inconsistencies and unlikelihoods (a 4 hour transition? ok) She is in the best case scenario at total twit. At worst a troll. Please, please stay away from CDN.

  486. theinvisible says:

    She works for the census when she’s arguing about the census on babygaga but on DS when talking about natural supplements she works for a natural food store. She does remind me of the

  487. Myself says:

    497 – I had a confirmed transition of over 4 hours. I was checked at 1 and found to be a 7 by my midwife, my daughter was not born until 6:20 and only 3 minutes of that was pushing.

  488. redfish bluefish says:

    Is she on CDN??

  489. redfish bluefish says:

    Wow….sneaky much??

    “Thats cool. If your kid wants siblings they can be a part of my brood. My family thinks I’m ‘not trying, not preventing’ but I’m doing a little bit more than that. πŸ˜€ “

  490. redfish bluefish says:

    If her contrax were “10-5 apart” it couldn’t have been wise of her to have ventured to town, to Target and her mom? Srsly?! “go plow some fields”


  491. Myself says:

    501 – where did you read that

    502 – I guess it is different for a multi-para mom but at 5-10 apart my contractions don’t do anything, not until they are 3-5 and 1-3 for transition.

  492. sweet says:

    I’ve posted here once before but don’t remember what un I used. This is my un on ds and cdn though. That birth story chick? WTH? She’s TTC but just gave birth but just had a loss? I’m so confused!

  493. Sala says:

    Sounds like someone who wants a rise from the boards she’s on. Real story or not, I call troll, too.

  494. redfish bluefish says:

    It was on her profile, a comment she had made to someone else.

    I read her birth story and I’m no birth expert but um…it seems way out there and shes giving ppl birth advice?? That makes me nervous. Also, the bit about her mom is out there too.

    I think ms sweetcheeks Saraneth should tuck her hairy troll balls back up where they belong because I see them hangin’ out.

  495. redfish bluefish says:

    Scroll almost all the way down. Right above “my newest parentank members” and her comment is right above that unless it changes once she makes a new one.

  496. redfish bluefish says:

    oookay. I just made another comment and it didn’t show up, not even as being in moderation. It included a link-maybe that’s why?

  497. redfish bluefish says:

    Lets try this again.

    Near the end is the comment.

  498. cheesewhiz says:

    Congrats, MotherMoonPads!!!

    And about that other birth story…WTF? She is strange. So, the thing she thought when her baby was born not breathing was, “I’m never gonna hear the end of this.” Nice.


  499. Myself says:

    506 – after one birth with no other experiences I would be nervous about her too. I give advice every now and then but I’ve had five births all vaginal now.

  500. cheesewhiz says:

    that should say, *first* thing she thought.

    I tried to correct it, but it said I was posting too fast, slow down. LOL!!

  501. sciencefair says:

    For one, I don’t know why in the hell someone would want to fake having a baby. Two, there is no way I would labor at Goodwill. Maybe there are nicer ones out there, but ours is in its own building. It looks really nice on the outside. But, its still full of clothing and things I would wash before wearing or using.

    And they threw the placenta in the ocean? I am guessing that is illegal. If its not, it should be. Eat it yourself, bury it in the back yard, whatever…but when your blood and a body part/organ are entering water sources, I have problems with it.

  502. Just Peachy says:

    #511 thats what I thought when she said the placenta. Thats highly illegal as that stuff is considered biohazardous material. I certainly would not wanna be swimming in that water and run into that plus who knows what it would do to the local aquatic population (I am picturing a shark chowing down gross).

  503. MotherMoonPads says:

    Why is her birth story different between DS and Baby-gaga? I’m getting ready to post mine on cdn/ds, and I’m c&p’ing between the two sites.

    Thank you for the congrats, ladies πŸ™‚

  504. Just Peachy says:

    She doesnt have a birth story on baby gaga does she?

  505. DSDM2 says:

    She does.

    And here is ANOTHER site she posted it on:

  506. Just Peachy says:

    Isn’t that funny now that parentsconnect link doesn’t work.

  507. Myself says:

    I can’t get on parent’s connect because I’m not a member

    oh well.

    her birth story on baby gaga was the same though (or what little I read)

  508. smartassmama says:

    That girl’s a clusterfuck of the stoopid.

    I have an intense desire to call her out.

  509. Myself says:

    DO IT, DO IT, just make sure you do it somewhere I can see, K?

  510. smartassmama says:

    Nah. I don’t know what or where I’d say. I’ll think about it.

    The way I read her birth story though, she made it sound like it was just yesterday. And she just sounds like a 15yo who’s bored and making stuff up.

    What laboring woman would give two shits what their mama thought about their outfit? And I guess I’m pretty old fashioned, but I don’t think I’d TTC another life while still under mama’s roof.

  511. smartassmama says:

    earthmamatobe beat me to it anyway. lol

    A lot of what she said had me scratching my head. But the part right after the baby was born? So nonchalant about her not breathing?! That’s, unsettling.

  512. Myself says:

    Is anyone else disturbed by the blood on the baby’s knee?

  513. MotherMoonPads says:

    #525, unsettling doesn’t even begin to describe how I feel about that. My last 2 children were born not breathing.

    I was NOT thinking “‘Oh, shit, I’m never going to hear the end of this.’ 2. ‘It’s a funny color.’ 3. ‘Thank god it’s out.’ 4. ‘How do I make it breathe?’ ”

    I was praying please baby breathe. Please let me hear you cry. Please breathe.

  514. Myself says:

    527 – After every birth my first thought was “Are they okay?” As soon as I was told they were it was ‘When can I eat?” and then “I’m tired, let me nurse the baby and we can go to sleep”

  515. MotherMoonPads says:

    I’m getting more pissed off as I read her thread. What a cocky little ignorant bitch.

    “I know how todislodgea baby if they get stuck. And honestly, babies don’t really GET stuck if you are not on your back. It is THE most dangerous position to give birth in, and is the reason for SO many complications.

    And LOL I got a mental image of myself waddling with a stuck baby between my legs.”

    Sorry honey. Babies DO get stuck even when you’re not on your back. How many women can truly dislodge a truly stuck baby by themselves? Grr.

    I need to walk away from this one. BTW, I posted my birth story on CDN/DS. If you read it, maybe it’ll make sense why this chick makes me so mad.

  516. Aj says:

    I don’t know, I kinda like her. She’s sarcastic and has an interesting view on things. She hasn’t rubbed me wrong…yet.

  517. KAL says:

    she sounds like she’s read a ton of birth stories and incorporated all of them into one in a 15 year olds perspective and “creative” writing style.

  518. sciencefair says:

    I knew asking for pictures would show the troll. She has photos of the baby and the image details all have different dates. The bloody knee and ‘SO meeting the baby’ ones are both from 2008.

    Queen_Celeste called her out. What a drama whore. And a moron to boot.

  519. smartassmama says:

    I really liked, “You are a great writer!!!!”

    And MommyKeller’s response was, interesting. lol

  520. smartassmama says:

    Oh shit! I didn’t scroll down far enough!
    That’s my favorite now!

  521. MotherMoonPads says:

    How do you see dates on the pics?

  522. smartassmama says:

    I right-clicked and “view picture info” but when I do that it shows them all as December of 08

  523. sciencefair says:

    It has the last two as modified today. Either way, the dates are screwy and she is a twat. I happened to look up the other threads you guys pointed out and one place she put the birth story she said it happened on the 20th and the story was posted in January. Then she posted on baby gaga on the 16th of March, and 10 days later on DS. The baby-gaga ladies thought she was a lying sac of amniotic fluid too.

  524. smartassmama says:

    “lying sac of amniotic fluid” – bwahahaha

  525. Myself says:

    Man, I wish she would respond to my comment

  526. sciencefair says:

    Are you elf? Cause I want her to respond to it too.

  527. incognizable says:

    Someone brave soul should point her to this here blog πŸ˜‰

  528. incognizable says:


  529. 541- Wait until tomorrow. She can be the TWT entertainment.

  530. smartassmama says:

    I wonder. If I subscribe with the popcorn emote – will H2BAC strike me for my ‘oneliner?’

  531. JustMe says:

    You can subscribe without posting. πŸ™‚ At the top dropdown that says “thread tools”. My new best friend.

  532. smartassmama says:

    I know. But that’s not nearly as fun πŸ˜‰

  533. Myself says:

    540 – Yup

  534. Myself says:

    541 – Done!

  535. Myself says:

    I got a reply

    (*sigh* I guess some people just don’t want to believe. That’s alright. You don’t have to. If it makes you feel superior in some way, you can do what you want. I’m glad I can make you feel superior. However, I will not say that my birth story somehow isn’t true because you want to be right. However, bashing me on another site makes you all look like third graders.)

  536. Myself says:

    *poke* *poke* *poke*

  537. treeindawind says:

    When are trolls going to learn……….

  538. Myself says:


  539. DSDM2 says:

    If nothing else, her FB status screams “TROLL!”

  540. Myself says:

    It is not in their CPU, the only way they will learn is if someone changes their CPU or hotwires a fix into their hard drive.

  541. treeindawind says:

    554- lol true!

  542. FunnyMama says:

    all sorts of dramz tonight!! makes waiting for Nurse Jackie bearable and quite entertaining…

  543. FunnyMama says:

    wifey, I pink sparkly heart you and your ovarian fortitude…

  544. Myself says:

    what or who is nurse jackie?

  545. FunnyMama says:

    It’s a program on Showtime, it’s what I watch when Big Love isn’t on

  546. Lori says:

    533… Thanks πŸ˜€ It is a beautiful little girl, regardless of the ridiculous story.

    As far as the dates being wrong, I know a lot of my pictures have the wrong dates because of the settings on My / MILs / SILs camera. (A lot of the dates on pictures of my niece say 2005 – she wasn’t born until 2007).

    I mean, she’s still a troll, and that story is totally crazy. (I think she suffers from the same embellishment syndrome my DH has) but I’m not fully convinced she didn’t birth a baby in the bathroom in october.

  547. Lori says:

    By embellishment syndrome.. I mean that my DH cannot tell an honest story to save his life. We ran into the mother in law of one of his guy friends the other day. She says “I notice you work for Pepsi, do you know Sal?” “Yeah!” he says “I’ve known him for like four years” – Really? Really, DH? I’m pretty sure you’ve only worked at Pepsi for two years. Nice try.

  548. FunnyMama says:

    LOL@your DH… We tend to have that issue around here too, but my DH loooooves to correct others when the story isn’t exactly verbatim

  549. Lori says:

    my FIL is like that… it drives me crazy. If you don’t remember *Exactly* what you said three years ago, you’re a farking liar.

  550. MotherMoonPads says:

    #560, the majority of the dates on my pics are wrong because my camera keeps resetting and I’m too lazy to fix it every day πŸ™‚

  551. knittingfool says:

    Holy crap1 I can read the paper through that story, there are so many holes. According to the facebook page she keeps insisting everyone go to, she is 16, named Tyler and is married to someone called Maria. OK, A girl named Tyler is not unusual, but all the Marias I’ve ever met are girls. She does say that she is interested in men and women. In her posts she refers to her BOYFRIEND, not husband. And what are the chances of a live birth with the cord going up the chest around the neck and back down again so it is compressed every 2 minutes for days? And her mother went to bed leaving a 16 year old boy in charge of delivering her grandchild in the bathroom after 4.5 days of labor. And no prenatal care. Bull!
    And did you notice that the people in the first two photos are not the same. Both have black t-shirts on but you can see that the lettering is different and the first guy has much bigger and tanned arms. Oh, and her sister’s name is Popsicles. I’m humming the theme from The Twilight Zone now. doo-doo doo-doo.

  552. Aj says:

    I really didn’t think I was going to start *this* when I linked everyone earlier…

    I feel kinda bad now. I’m usually all for the drama, but I just don’t see it with this girl. Maybe my radar’s off? Or maybe I just know too many people who view life in this matter? I’m not sure.

  553. Lori says:

    AJ, I’m with you. I see an embellished story. the FB page doesn’t bother me in the slightest. Her name is Tyler, she hasn’t changed her about me since she was 16, Maria is a friend of hers that she is “Married” to (a LOT of my friends do this – apparently it’s the cool thing to do, but it just basically means they’re BFFs) Matt is her boyfriend / baby daddy…. and from what I read she never posted his age until she said that he was 18.

  554. Lori says:

    Oops. Hit post too soon.

    As far as her sister being named “Popsicles” – I have a friend on my FB and her name is listed as “Paigiewagie PuddinPie” – Her name is Paige. I also know a woman IRL who’s name is Puddin’.

  555. melmelly says:

    I went to HS with a girl named Pebbles. That’s her name on her birth certificate too. The Flintstones was the mom’s favorite show.

  556. Mhasababy says:

    I think that the people in the first two pictures are two different people. If you go through her album, the mother is a little bit darker, so maybe the first pic is of her mother?

    Actually, the chances of a live birth in that manner are very high. 25% of babies are born with the cord wrapped around their necks.

    Just wondering, do you think every person who is unmarried is unable to have children? The boy doesn’t have to be her husband to have a baby.

    Plenty of women deliver babies on their own. I wouldn’t consider a man who was around while a baby was being born to have delivered the baby.

    Maybe I just think like this because I know some people who have had an unassisted childbirth. Not everyone believes that birth is a disease. Maybe her mother thinks that too, which is why she left them on her own.

    And just wondering, how does 45 hours translate into 4.5 days?

  557. qt3 (aka Mhasababy) says:

    I think her story is weird and i wouldnt do it but it seems weird to me that you keep attacking her for stuff she never said. When did she say she had no prenatal care or that her so was 16? I think her story is more true than you guys want to believe. You guys have started attacking her for things that she never said. It makes me think that no matter what she says you guys are just going to make up something else to try and make her a troll. The facebook status message and the album pictures makes me think it is true. Its obviously her facebook or the status wouldnt be there and its her baby or the pics wouldnt be there.

  558. Trinity says:

    Just wanted to say thank you to poster #10.

    I placed an order at Spot’s Corner with babymealpacas aka Kind Hearted Women aka Momtobushbabies aka crazymomof3.5. I know she has zero feedback but she had something I really needed and I figured, hey, we all have to start somewhere with feedback.

    That purchase was 11 days ago. I never heard anything so contacted her sveral days ago and she said she had emailed me, although I never received an email. The item was listed as new. She said she went to mail it and saw holes in the cashmere Kiwi Pie cover I had bought. She wanted to know if I wanted a discount or for her to sew the holes up. At first I said I wanted to see photos, see where the holes were. I really needed a large size KP cashmere cover so I was willing to work on the transaction.

    Then I found out about her transaction history, again, thank you poster #10 in this thread! So I pm’ed her and said I changed my mind and would just like a refund. She pm’ed at DS to say she had the photos and asked for my email so she could email the photos to me. Why not just send them in that pm I don’t know. She has a photobucket account she uses for her listings. I felt like I was getting the run around. But she completely ignored both my pms about wanting a refund.

    I think a refund is fair at this point considering I had to contact her first about this, she never shipped anything yet and she falsely listed the item. Items in new condition should not have holes. I would not have bought that cover if I knew it had holes.

    Just wanted to warn anyone who was thinking of buying from babymealpaca at Spots Corner! I have an opened and escalated a dispute through Paypal.

  559. DSDM2 says: Anyone want to go post “I think the owner of that site is banned from here… for multiple UNs, bumping her own posts, bashing other WAHMs and things like that.”

    Her Profile:

  560. sciencefair says:

    573. She says she bought from another store though. Little Fox Diapers. Anyone know if that is Audrey too?

  561. Trinity says:

    Oh yay! The paypal investigation has been completed and I just received a full refund from babymealpacas.

  562. Myself says:

    And, I’m BANNED. πŸ™‚

  563. Madre says:

    saw that coming

  564. Myself says:

    oh me too.

    From happy2Bamommy

    “We had a pm reported where you linked a member to a drama site along with a memo letting her know where to start reading what was being said about her.

    This type of behavior was uncalled for and is not something that is needed on this site. I noticed you have had a warning in the past for rude/harassing post.

    Due to the nature of your pm your account will be banned in the morning. I want to be sure you have enough time to get any needed information from pm’s.

    I am very sorry that you took part in something that led to this :hugs: “

  565. Incognizable says:

    Myself was it over that troll?? That sucks. Quick get a screen shot of your profile with your location, it’s awesome!

  566. Incognizable says:

    Ugh…now I haz the guilt :hugs: ‘myself’. I remember egging that someone link the troll to the blog 😦

  567. Myself says:


    It’s okay.

    I got a screen shot !

  568. Madre says:

    I’m loling over her offering hugs!

  569. Myself says:

    Yeah I thought it was funny but oh well

  570. Sala says:

    Hope you don’t have any running coops or swaps going. I imagine that gets messy if you’re banned.

  571. Myself says:

    I have two things to ship for a secret sister swap, someone is sending me a tester forum item and a coop shipping.

    All have my contact info and for the shipping I’m doing I have their address.

    I made sure to put everything in order.

  572. tlouise says:

    Is anyone else who goes to the TTC forum annoyed by Lexy? She’s had three kids in three years, and her last was born in 7/09. She’s been whining for several months now that she wants to be pregnant so badly, and has gone to her doctor a few times about it.
    I just want to say “Lady, you are still breastfeeding an 8 month old. You’ve had three babies in three years. I really doubt that you actually have a fertility problem. Maybe your body just needs a break.”

    Recently she went to a doctor who did a transvaginal US (to determine ovulation, I think) and put her on clomid. What kind of irresponsible doctor gives Clomid to an obviously-fertile woman after only a few months of trying?
    It just annoys me to see her posts along side lots of people who are truly having trouble conceiving.

  573. Myself says:

    hmm I can’t say much with the ages of my children being what they are

  574. Incognizable says:

    Myself how long is your ban? I thought I read you were hosting a yummy yarn co-op in the next few months? Or am I confuzzled?

  575. Myself says:

    6 months

    She cancelled the co-op and I believe all co-ops 😦

  576. Lori says:

    586 – Yep. I called her out back in December / January when she starting taking over the September DDC (right when she had entered the 2ww). Drives me batty.

  577. Myself says:

    oh and my ban is for

    “drama/harassing another member”

  578. Myself says:

    ahhh – I remember that thread

  579. Madre says:

    wow, why was she such an a-hole?

  580. Sala says:

    tlouise – the kind of doctor who wants an annoying, whining woman to leave and never come back. Or an incompetent one. Your call. Jeebus. Did she tell him or her that she was breastfeeding? ’cause if the doc wasn’t a quack, she or he would advise her that maybe she needs to either stop nursing or wait until her period returns.

  581. tlouise says:

    Wow, that was pretty bitchy of her.

    I wish I was fertile enough to assume I could start posting in a DDC just because I TTC that month, sheesh.

    I just wonder if she’s A. trying really hard for a girl, or B. sort of a crazy cat lady, but with babies, lol.

  582. Just Peachy says:

    Funny how this person’s username doesn’t bug anyone but when I had it in my siggy on DS ppl threw a shit fit.
    irish twins (Holly-preg. w/#4)

  583. Myself says:

    why would people pitch a fit cause you had irish twins in your siggy?

  584. Just Peachy says:

    I guess some found it offensive…

  585. Myself says:

    I’m just wondering how irish twins can be offensive? It is just a term to mean two children close in age.

  586. eeek says:

    It suggests the irish breed indiscriminately. TBH, the irish are about the last group of people of whom it’s politically correct(or at least politically OK) to speak of that way. Stereotypes of catholics and leprechans get in the way of real understanding of a very cool old culture.

  587. jmama says:

    601. It used to be a derogatory term meaning that children very close in age were the result of uneducated, poor Irish Catholic families’ lack of birth control as well as self-control.

  588. Myself says:

    Okay that makes sense I guess.

    I’m Irish and I don’t take offense AND I have five children relatively close in age.

  589. Sala says:

    I understand the connotations but I’ve never used the term ‘Irish twins’ except to denote two siblings born within a 12 month period. Is it really not PC to use? That would be hard to remove from my vocab because I’ve never really thought anything negative about Irish people or Irish immigrants. From what I can tell, there isn’t an Irish bias here on the West Coast – is there one on the East coast or is this just an outdated bias? I already struggle with not using ‘gyp;’ it’s so engrained.

  590. Lisa says:

    I am from the UK and we use “irish twins” as a phrase to describe 2 children born in the same year. I have never heard of anybody being offended by it. Then again we are a laid back bunch, the Irish being even more laid back lol.

  591. DSDM2 says:

    I use the term “Irish Twins” when I talk about 2 within a year… No one has ever told me it is offensive. I can see how it is though.

  592. Is anyone else thoroughly sick of the CDN drama and back-stabbing cattiness? The board is all but dead unless it’s this dramariffic crap. Me thinks it’s time for a break for myself. I have enough going on in real life to deal with this middle school crap. I hate the ugly side I’ve seen of so many people. 😦

  593. Incognizable says:

    @608 Deviate you are not alone on that one 😦 I added a few people to my do not b/s/t list just based on the last shit storm.

    The entire stfu, gtfo, fark off, go back to DS, leave the board if you don’t like it, use the red X and all that jazz in the hot seat thread is really unwelcoming and uncalled for.

    It’s a totally different tune than before when CDN came here to the blog to invite peeps to join more than a year ago. Sigh, I think I could benefit from a break too.

  594. Myself says:

    I wonder whose do not b/s/t lists I’m on.

    I just ignore threads that bother me. Or try to.

  595. Sala says:

    I’m afraid that I haven’t been following – I can read about 100 posts before I’m done for the moment. It’s just too annoying otherwise. This has truly been blown out of proportion by all sides, if there are sides. And there’s been bad behaviour on all sides, too. I’m afraid that I don’t get it. I put one post in a couple days ago and now I’m not even going there. It’s not worth it for my health and blood pressure and it feels like the idiocy might be catching.

  596. eeek says:

    I haven’t read all of it, it’s like 1000 posts now- but that is one big pot of crazy. yikes.

    I think admin should be able to vent about whatever they want. It’s their board, good lord, they ought to get the same benefits and support the rest of the people do. They get to set the tone, not anyone else.

    I also think that if you’re going to start reading stuff that is implied to be private like PMs or rep, you should tell people. Yikes.

  597. Myself says:

    612 – I thought the admin had been clear that rep can be read by them and that in extenuating circumstances they would read PM (like in the case of harassment or threatening, etc…)? Or am I wrong there?

    On another note: I totally feel that Mom had the right to post that vent and that it started going overboard the most when people questioned her right to put it in what section.

    Also, if someone is talking about you and you DON’T want to add more drama, for the love of everything DON’T tell people they are talking about you. Go behind scenes and avoid the drama.

  598. not me at all says:

    608 and 609

    Yep! A lot of people are. CDN has changed a lot over the past year and not for the better.

  599. FunnyMama says:

    My reps were read because I said I got neg reps (plural) and one of mods looked it up and posted in a thread that I only got one and i shouldn’t exaggerate.

    I don’t care either way about the drama – it’s a fun read as long as it’s not about me. But there are some things in that thread that got my panties in a twist, like the blatant rudeness, udder hypocrisy, and low blows.

    There’s a CDN member who started a local mommy forum after one of the bigger forums didn’t welcome her the way she liked, and went on the bigger forum PMing other mamas (including myself) with a similar message of “This place sucks, these ladies suck, come over here and we have teh awesome”, and this particular mama slayed Amber in said thread.

  600. FunnyMama says:

    utter, not udder. oy vey.

  601. sciencefair says:

    I still like CDN, but sometimes the beast is pretty scary.

  602. eeek says:

    I remember reading it was possible for them to be read, but that it was not being considered at this time.

    this one- not just that issue, the whole steaming mess of crazy that’s flying around, plus the waves of crazy which have been breaking around there in general- it’s enough to send me on another CDN break. As they say a whole bunch in that thread, stfu & gtfo if you don’t like it, so I’m gettin’ the FO.

    I would, though, love to know the hypocrite, FunnyMama πŸ˜‰

    And can anyone explain Kim? I feel like I should know that one but yet it escapes me….

  603. Myself says:

    And since it is now in The Hot Seat instead of vents:

    She said this:

    Rewind to March of 2008 (yes two years ago.)

    I had a lost a pregnancy. I was a VERY active member on DS. I removed my pregnancy from my siggy on DS and doing so I created an extra line in my siggy. (oh the horror) I had 2 previous siggy violations for having a forum posted in my siggy and was banned for six months. A TON of people were pissed because it was so obviously an accident. I was asked to join BG (batgirls) by someone, i forget who at this point. I was pissed and bad mouthed DS, pretty badly on BGs. A bunch of BGs went on DS to defend me. In doing so MANY of them were banned, not for defending me, but for the way they were talking to admin there with profanity and what not. Lee (owner of DS) Unbanned me because he felt it was bad timing with my loss, since DS was my support group. I went back to DS. the BG’s flipped the hell out on me calling me a trader and what not. I went ape ~POOP~ and called BG’s names as they did me, it was a bitch fight…. Many told me I used my loss for sympathy. I got a ton of HATE mail via email. There were multiple blog posts about me where they “had at me”. I called them horrible names and was mean and said things I shouldn’t have to defend myself. They continued to harrass me for months. I was most definitely being followed. I joined CDN and didnt know that it was a spin off from BGs until I was an active member here. I posted there about how I didn’t realize that and that I wanted to put it behind me and all, kinda a lets be friends post. All was good. Until recently on CDN. Every thread I start turns to drama from MCN members that can’t let go of the past. But I get all the blame, Like I was the only one that did anything wrong. I apologized two years ago and recently but that’s not enough for them, I must publicly apologize on CDN. It’s not happening, not after all the things that I have seen/heard that have been said about myself and others on on MCN and here on CDN.
    So that’s my story. And that’s the whole truth. But when you have 20+ members attacking one single person, that single person doesn’t get heard. Like right now when Im sure I am going to get flamed and bashed and burned at the stake because once again, I WILL BE WRONG I”M SURE since it’s me vs. the meanies and I don’t have a posse to back me up.

    So there ya have it. That’s my drama. Horrid isn’t it? That’s my drama.

  604. FunnyMama says:

    eeek, PM on CDN (I have the same UN). It’s not as dramalicious as some other stuff going on, but it’s the principal of the whole thing

  605. Myself says:

    621 – rep me, wifey?

  606. eeek says:

    Ahh, thanks, I remember the kimbellishments. She was a special crazy.

    I’ll admit I saw very little of her at CDN, I kind of stayed in my spots. How did people who knew her let her stay? I didn’t see her redeeming qualities, at all, in the stuff I saw here.

  607. FunnyMama says:

    I just don’t understand the two-years-ago approach to digging up resolved drama. If someone keeps stoking the fire, then it might be necessary to recall a track record. But Myself, I just don’t see that you’re a problem child; in fact, I feel like you purposely avoid the “hot” threads.

  608. Myself says:

    Oh yeah I try to avoid hot threads unless it is hot buttons.

  609. ΕΎΓ‘ba says:

    This latest drama on CDN has me really disillusioned with the board. I get that admin *can* read PM’s but, come on you read a bunch of pm’s trying to figure out who is sending one person neg reps and come across this Wholemamas PM. It wasn’t even that bad. So, person x dislikes person y and says so to person z and references another board that x and z are on. That’s what MOM (and apparently the rest of the admin) is all in a twist about. I can’t honestly see why 1) she was even reading that particular PM, and 2) that is was sooooo horrible that it need to be dragged out in a vent. I am not saying admin there shouldn’t vent but this particular insane was way lame. I also think is was pretty stupid to start a thread that she knew was going to be a shit storm and then disappear to her baseball games. This could have been a million time less STFU/GTFO/go find another board if she had pick a time where she could have been around to respond in the thread and not let the board run rampant. I think I may be taking a break from CDN 😦 which makes me sad.

  610. Messy says:

    #626 They do not/did not read PMs. Period. It was a rep. Reps are known to be able to be read for multiple reasons (which is why I think the person who sent the rep did it… She wanted it read.)

  611. Myself says:

    626 – It wasn’t a PM it was a REP.

    And I don’t know about you but I have been known to post and run. I couldn’t care if crap hits the fan while I’m gone. I’m not going to not go to a child’s game or practice or what not just for an online forum. The forum is NOT my priority, my children are.

  612. Just Peachy says:

    I am taking a CDN break as well. The final straw was the banning of Amanda. I always felt like she was different from the other mods and much “gentler” so to speak and I was really upset when they booted her out.
    I get why Sam and Mel were upset about the whole ordeal and they had every right to post. What pisses me off is people who no right to be pissed off upset over this BS. It didn’t happen to you so why get all pissed off about it and be like ZOMG tar and feather the bitch.

  613. ΕΎΓ‘ba says:

    My mistake I totally meant rep and in my mind that’s what I was thinking, don’t know why I typed PM. doh. replace all references to pm w/rep and my statement stands.

  614. Myself says:

    629 – She may have been gentler but she let something slide that she really shouldn’t. I even PMd her in response to it and it was still let slide. Same thing happened again and I went to a different mod/admin and it got dealt with FAST.

  615. Sala says:

    Kimbellishments has been banned too, Fwiw.

  616. Messy says:

    #626 Now that I have a few more minutes (yeah, I posted, stopped to meet my kids off the bus and came back, baaad me @@)
    Seriously? If you don’t like the way CDN works and the fact that Sam is not on there 24/7 to discuss SHIT until you are happy with the ending, then find a better place to hang.
    She posted a VENT. It is her right. She vented. I vent. Others vent. Hell, I am willing to bet money that this is why the VENT FORUM exists! She had no idea that it was going to explode into a crap fest. Thank those of us that posted in the thread for that. She didn’t stir it, she did her mommy thing… I dunno about anyone else, but sometimes when I vent, I can let it go for a while and do something else. Ever think Sam was getting it off her chest so she could go enjoy her kids’ games??? If anything, the admin on CDN are TOO INVOLVED in trying to fix all the crap that goes on. They feel responsible on an ungodly level! They have to simply because of the way the board is set up… They don’t want to hide shit, they don’t want to ban without giving explanations, and so forth. Guess what? That is why a lot of us call CDN home.
    If you think it is so bad, then take your mini-yage elsewhere. Don’t hang out in her house and bitch about her furniture.

  617. Messy says:

    #630 Then I call bullshit on your entire post! Pay attention. It has been said/posted/ad nauseum that REPS CAN AND ARE READ!!! HELL-FREAKING-OH! Wha wha wha. Cry about something that is posted and out there??? There was nothing sneaky going on.

  618. For the record, I am not bashing CDN. Not one bit. I adore many of the women there, including admin. I just have enough going on IRL, and the nasty behavior between women there is bringing me down, and I just don’t need it. Just wanted to make that clear.

  619. Kelolsen says:

    Melmelly- was the girl named pebbles from CVHS? I taught there and there was a student named Pebbles – her actual name.

  620. Messy says:

    #635 That I understand… It is Zaba bitching about things that are basically a standard of the board (like venting, rep reading, etc) that is ticking me off. Don’t like the rules? Don’t play in the playground! Simple!
    I don’t let any complaining get to me because I can move on to another thread πŸ™‚ There is always 100 great things going on with CDN for every shit storm.

  621. Just Peachy says:

    They don’t hide shit??? I beg to differ.

  622. Kelolsen says:

    oh and I definitely said on CDN that they’v enever kept anything secret there and its Sam’s board and she can dow hat she wants- and yes..if you hate it, you don’t have to stay. Its not like anyone is entitled to be there. she pays the bills and if she wants you gone, you’re gone. that’s just fact- not an opinion. If that makes someone not buy from me, that’s totally fine. I’m not sweating it.

  623. Messy says:

    #638 They throw it all out there. Things that are in areas like “hash it out” are between people that do not need “public viewing” and lets them have some privacy. Other than that, you never have to guess why someone is banned or what happened to a topic that you had been chatting on because it up and disappeared. I don’t see them hiding anything.

  624. Kelolsen says:

    I feel that I’ve not been kept in the dark for stuff that realy affects the board. I’ve known for a super long time that reps can be read- its never been a hidden fact.They do not read PMs and I absolutely believe that.

  625. Just Peachy says:

    They throw out there what they want to. I have heard of them having a good ole time on MCN with people telling Sam exactly what to tell us like when Aundy got banned. Either tell us or don’t but don’t go dragging another board into the shit.

  626. Messy says:

    #642 You have heard of them discussing things on MCN? I have never seen that on CDN??? Or here either for that matter… To top it, don’t the same people own MCN as CDN and mod/admin it the same with a lot of the same people going to both boards?
    The same people discussing the same topic on two boards is going to have some feedback from each site. I don’t understand what or why someone would say they are telling Sam what to say to anyone… It seems to me that Sam ultimately says what she wants, no matter how unpopular the opinion might be. Same can be said for Mel.
    I don’t think they use MCN as a hiding spot for CDN topics in any way…

  627. Kelolsen says:

    We all know Aundy very well on that board, so what happened with CDN was 100% directly related to things that happened on MCN. Some of the people there know her IRL, talk to her, etc.. and soem fo the stuff was private and I don’t even know all of it b/c I didn’t know her IRL. yes, some stuff, out of respect, was kept off the bigger board. Transaction stuff is everyone’s business, but the more personal stuff isn’t. I don’t see why that’s a big deal. Are you saying that Sam shoudl have aired all of someone’s dirty laundry for everyone to see?

  628. Kelolsen says:

    and no one had a good old time when Aundy was banned. People were very hurt, upset, and saddened. There was no jumping for joy.

  629. ΕΎΓ‘ba says:

    Her vent was not like a vent that you or I would make, because we can’t go in an read rep that are between two other people. If you go and read something that was not intended for you and was never meant for you to see and get all bent out of shape because you don’t like it/misinterpret it I don’t know that you should then go and make a vent. If I were to post a vent it would be more of a “Gah my MIL is making me F’ing nuts” not “To Whom it May Concern”

    Whatever, I am letting this irritate me to much clearly.

  630. Catrinau says:

    Meh … anyone can come to MCN and read what we say there. Oh wait … unless your a trolly troll that is just coming over to stir shit …… like PEACHY!

    And honestly, we don’t tell Sam what she has to say on CDN. She is a grown woman. Hell, if the people on MCN were telling Sam what to do and she was listening, she would have banned nasty Kim a LONG LONG LONG time ago. She didn’t, though. She actually stuck up for her and us MCN’ers got our hand smacked by her.

    Get your facts right if you are going to go spouting off about someone.

    And honestly … no one is going to miss you at CDN.

  631. Myself says:

    I don’t even know who Just Peachy and zaba is/are so …….

    Oh well.

    Maybe I should join MCN to see what the hoopla is about

  632. Messy says:

    #646 Again REPS ARE NOT PRIVATE. Also, I beg to differ. I think it was put in a REP because it is NOT PRIVATE and it was a backhanded nasty way to let Sam know about this other board. It appears to have been intentional… And BTW, where are you reading the rules regarding the vent forum? I missed where it had to be geared at family or not have anything to do with the board at all…
    And look how it played out. She did not misinterpret it. She did not bend it all out of shape. She was not venting about the other board. She was venting about the situation that was going on and that the repper obviously wanted her to see. Go figure.

  633. Raven says:

    No one had a “good old time” telling ya’ll about Aundy. That situation hurt a lot of people who had trusted her and cared for her, for a very long time. Unless you’re a douche who was banned for being a douche on MCN, you can join there and read what was said. No need for moles to pass things along that “you’ve heard”.

  634. Kelolsen says:

    Peachy is Sakura on CDN

    I guess I just don’t see it as my place ora nyone else’s place to indicate what the owner of the board who pays the bills can and cannot vent about. she puts alot more time and effort into the board than I do- so her vents are different than mine.

  635. Just Peachy says:

    Don’t care enough to beg to be let out of the intros forum nor do I wish to be part of a forum I am not welcome at. And FYI I don’t troll, never have never will. One incident does not a troll make.

  636. 1ofthosehatefulbitches says:

    FYI Peachy, MCN banned Aundy first and Sam is a member of MCN so of course she saw what we had to say. I believe some of the women who shared their personal experiences with Aundy asked that they not be shared on CDN since CDN has public areas and MCN does not. I think that is understandable don’t you? No one in any way told Sam what she could or couldn’t say. I think you know Sam well enough to know that she has a mind of her own and doesn’t need anyone thinking/speaking for her.
    You joined MCN Peach and if you hadn’t acted like an ass you could have read it for yourself. You are just a whole lotta crazy that no one should have to be subjected to. You are here trashing everyone, make up your mind already.

    As far as the rest of this, I don’t think Sam has any reason to defend herself further. Amanda acted like a snake and was dealt with accordingly.

  637. Raven says:

    Admitting that someone gave you info off MCN that you wouldn’t normally be privy to is troll behavior.

  638. not me at all says:

    yeah right Messy b/c Amanda is KNOWN for being nasty and backhanded…she had no reason to purposely hurt Sam.

    And really it WAS a call out not a vent. It was even moved from vents. If it was really a vent then why is it no longer in vents?

    The way this was handled was just wrong and what Zaba and a lot of other ppl object to is the STFU, GTFO attitude of so many ppl at CDN now if you disagree AT ALL with any admin. It used to be a much nicer place to go. It’s sad really.

  639. Kelolsen says:

    I’m not going to tell anyone that th eir feelings are wrong. they just are… I could feel that Sam shoudl have very specific rules as to how she should act on the board- but that doesn’t make a difference- its still her board and she can do what she wants.

    I understand that some people aren’t happy. Heck I was on DS when it was owned by a regular member and then she sold it to Lee and t hings changed. I didn’t like it anymore – I had no right to tell Lee what he shoudl do w/this board. I think he sucks, but its still his board now so my choice was to either accept it or not really go there anymore. I have gone a few times for FSOT and that’s it. I don’t post there. I think banning pepole for underhanded behavior and banning people for having an extra line in their siggy are vastly different and I’m okay w/ the former.

  640. amessymama says:

    I didn’t read much of that long-ass thread, so maybe it was brought up already, but did the reppee report the rep to Mom or was she just randomly reading reps when she came across it?

    In other words:

    What makes admin decide to read reps? Do they just randomly read them for fun or are they pointed out to them?

    If this was already discussed, just tell me and when I find the time and inclination, maybe I’ll go find the answer.

  641. Just Peachy says:

    #655 Amanda is known for being nasty??? Or was that sarcasm. I have never seen Amanda be anything but nice and I felt she was given the short end of the stick after she was ousted.
    And I agree with you on the GTFO bit. Must we agree with every little thing they do or be told to stfu and gtfo? Thats what I have had issue with for a while. Eventually after being told that so many times, people are gonna do exactly that.

  642. not me at all says:

    658 TOTALLY sarcasm! I was responding to messy saying Amanda left the rep on purpose to hurt Sam. I love Amanda!

  643. Myself says:

    657 – It is my understanding that there was a controversial thread and someone or someones complained about reps as a result of that thread and reps from that thread were looked into

  644. KAL says:

    Amanda was a fuckin’ mod, she knew wtf she was doing when she repped that. She also knew that Sam and Mel have to read rep when there are complaints of negs/or harrassment via rep. The thread Amanda repped from was hot buttons and she knew there were lots of negs flying around.

    Also, the kinder “gentler” Amanda went out the door when she became mod and started power tripping as per a few people stated on CDN, as well as what I saw.

  645. amessymama says:

    Oh, OK. Thanks!

  646. Raven says:

    It was moved from Vent to The Hot Seat so that people could see it who don’t have access to the Vent forum (it has a post count requirement IIRC) and was done after Sam banned Amanda to show why. Also IIRC, I was pretty busy yesterday and that’s what I got out of it.

  647. Myself says:

    663 – Yes that was my understanding as well.

  648. Madre says:

    this is the stupidest conversation ever (I’m sure I’ll be told to leave since I don’t like it). It’s going in circles. It always does. I will say that it’s annoying when the CDN-groupies get all butt hurt over someone not liking CDN.

  649. 1ofthosehatefulbitches says:

    I think what everyone is forgetting is that the thing you are complaining about right now is actually the reason you were initially drawn to CDN. It’s owned and run by people with real feelings and things aren’t hidden like they are by DS. Everyone wants a “tell it like it is” forum until they get their e-feelers hurt and then they cry foul. You can’t have it both ways, you either want a robot run Lee army where having too many siggy lines will get you banned, or you want a forum run by real people that will tell you when you act like an asshat. Pick the side you prefer and stick to it. Don’t run around criticizing the same things you praised a year ago. CDN hasn’t changed their rules, it’s just become more personal for you because you liked Amanda. Newsflash: even seemingly nice people can turn on you on the internet.

  650. Myself says:

    Okay, I guess I should tell people when I’m going to be mean.

    Disclaimer : I am in a pissy mood, I’m in pain and have put out my back for the second time in a week. When I am in a pissy mood, I WILL say mean things, you are forewarned.

  651. zosiasmama says:

    Oh and Peach…FTR, Amanda left of her own choice, she chose to not be a mod. She was not ousted by Sam and Mel as you so sweetly put it you twit. Get your facts straight before you spew your stupid shit. Sam and Mel did nothing wrong, they just did not see any reason to stand up for Kim anymore and Amanda got all butt hurt. That is her problem not Sam and Mels.

  652. Just Peachy says:

    Is that what they told you to say Danni?

  653. Kelolsen says:

    Peach- did you hear different from Amanda – that she was forced out and not that she stepped down?

  654. zosiasmama says:

    Uh well as I was part of the discussion that took place when she decided to step down I am gonna say no to that one genius. Did I miss something…were a fly on the wall that day?

  655. riffrafflittleman says:

    I tried to stay out of it, really I did, but for crying out loud people enough with the damn speculation. The thread was beaten to death and no one wants to see either side. Amanda stepped down because she felt it was the right thing to do. Whatever differences or whatever there was, she was not “forced” out, she may have been pushed towards leaving, but it was her decision ultimately. Secondly, she did NOT, I repeat, did NOT mean to be hurtful with that rep. It was something she posted without thinking. Are you telling me none of you have ever done something without thinking, until you find out it hurts someone? It was not intentional.

  656. riffrafflittleman says:

    Oh and when I say “pushed” I mean she saw things she didn’t like, saw they were not going to change and that pushed her to make a decision.

  657. amessymama says:

    OK I really hate it when people do this, but I’m going to do it anyway. πŸ˜€ I just do not have time to read that long thread. People say go read the thread, but it’s filled with so much crap in the middle that I just don’t want to see. Although, if I put about 10 people on ignore real quick, I met get to the info faster.

    What exactly did Amanda do? By the responses I’m seeing, like “it’s disheartening” and “you don’t want to know” “stay on the clueless couch”. I’m thinking it’s horrible!

    She repped a rude comment about someone to someone, right? How rude we talkin’ here? Do we have a quote anywhere?

  658. Just Peachy says:

    Nope just a pattern I noticed with certain mods on there. I’ve noticed over the past few months that if one mod gets offended all of them seem to get offended even though they were not directly involved in said offensive action. Amanda struck me as one of the few who didn’t get all bent out of shape over stuff that happened to other mods. Does that make any sense?

  659. Incognizable says:

    Just to clarify, I don’t have a problem with CDN admin or how it’s run. Period. Their board, their rules. I choose to play on their playground. I get it. I also understand that CDN has grown.

    My concern is that a year ago admin would not have allowed one member (who prolly doesn’t pay the bills to run CDN) to tell another member to “stfu, gtfo, fark off, go back to DS, leave the board if you don’t like it, use the red X” or anything along those lines. That is all, carry on πŸ˜‰

  660. ΕΎΓ‘ba says:

    I was initially drawn to CDN for the calling an asshat an asshat aspect. But now it is starting to seem like you can only call certain people asshats. I can’t think it was wrong of Sam to start a vague vent that she pretty much could have seen was going to start nothing but problems? The admin are always talking about what they deal with “behind the scenes”, I think this would have been much better handled there. In a way I do think that the mods/admin are held to a slightly different standard than the general pop. of the board. They are privy to info that the rest of us aren’t and with that comes the responsibility to handle that info properly. If you are going to be reading rep’s and come across something you don’t like perhaps the prudent thing to do would be to address it with the person/people who sent/received it.

  661. 1ofthosehatefulbitches says:

    It is quoted in the thread.
    Something along the lines of “she’s a nasty mama” and then a pun on the name of a board Amanda was admining on implying that all the people that were sick of CDN & some members were going to her board.
    Thing is, Amanda was a mod and she knew in a HB thread that there would be the possibility of admin hearing about or seeing that rep. She also knew from coming over to MCN to read about, that Sam & Mel went out of their way defending her when she (Amanda) was sticking her neck out for asspuppet.

  662. Myself says:

    Quoting Rmewife:

    The Infamous Rep :
    She is a nasty poster and her posse is equally lame. There is a ‘Whole’ lot of ‘Mamas’ tired of it <—get it

  663. zosiasmama says:

    OK, so let me get this straight Peach, you insinuated that Sam and Mel shoved Amanda out based of some crazy conjectured idea you had about how we mods tend to agree with each other and tend to post a similar opinion around the board? Seriously? Are you some kind of crazy?

  664. 1ofthosehatefulbitches says:

    678. That is all well and good but since they felt Amanda’s actions were bannable, how would you suggest they address the masses that ask why she was banned? Again, either you want to know when someone is an asshat or you don’t.
    It’s damned if you do and damned if you don’t. This was a no win situation.
    Amanda outed herself, Sam did not.

  665. ΕΎΓ‘ba says:

    If they thought that after talking with her privately that her comment was so horrific that she could no longer be part of the board – which I doubt it would have turned into had not 765,567,877 people gotten involved -I believe that if they had asked her to leave she would have. Drama averted.

  666. melmelly says:

    Oh FFS. Some mama’s need to wear a smaller size of BGP’s because they are getting all wadded up and causing problems with proper oxygen levels.

    That said, no, Kelolsen, Pebbles didn’t go to that HS. We went to BHHS in Southern Oregon, and before that, she went to a HS 30 minutes away in Nor California.

  667. Myself says:

    683 – seriously read the thread, they didn’t talk to her, sam reacted by posting a vent, goodness, it is the same thing I might have done if I was pissed off at reading a rep (of course one sent to me)

  668. 1ofthosehatefulbitches says:

    683. I think that is naive. It doesn’t work that way on forums, it just doesn’t. There would have been 435834958 threads about where Amanda is and then speculation about the circumstances. It’s much easier to just put it out there, deal with the backlash and move on.

  669. melmelly says:

    686. I agree with you.

  670. Myself says:

    Just because I’m weird

    did anyone know that there is a Drama of CDN site, that has only been posted on once?

  671. nu says:

    I swear I need a notebook when I read this blog. I’m figuring Amanda is Rmewife. Don’t know who Aundra is? I do know of Kim—I was a bit surprised to see her on CDN; but now she’s poof.

    Thanks for saying who Peach was, I didn’t know.

    I guess I look at like this…nothing is private on the web? Is it? We don’t pay to have membership. The owners do, therefore, don’t they own all of it? Rep? Pm?

  672. 1ofthosehatefulbitches says:

    Aundy? Her username was the same on CDN and on DS I believe.

  673. jeruco says:

    Is this stinky coutures way of saying no one has paid attention to me in a while so let me talk about a smear campaign from 2008?
    She loves drama more than anyone. Now she is publically denying everything and she puts down other WAHMs. Nice Daphne. You are such a person of integrity when you do that publically.

  674. Messy says:

    For those telling me how sweet RmeAmanda is, hold on while I go take a poll with her best buds that she created the board with and got into the huge mess… Let me see what her closest BFFs think of her sweetness now! Once they get done with the used feelings and betrayal, I am sure they will be telling me how utterly sticky sweet she is orrrrrr not? Yeah.
    For another thing. Once Rme outed herself, it got moved to hot seats because it was no longer a vent. Did Sam negate the thread by outing Rme? noooo… Miss SweetyPieHoneyBoardAmanda did.
    WAIT! The thread got MOVED! HELLO! WHO THE FUCK CARES??? MOVED!!! Not REmoved. MOVED!!! GAH!
    And for the “butt hurt CDN supporters” comment… What the fuck ever. You find a better group of people to hang with on the web and get back to us. Or don’t cuz I won’t be holding my breath!
    Oh, and Peach, Amanda hung around after she stepped down from her mod position. If she was so unhappy, she could have left and not hung around… Or was she unhappy and hanging around for another reason? Nooo… Not the sweetness!!! Blech!

  675. 1ofthosehatefulbitches says:

    mmmm…oh those BatGirls and their dramaz. Gawd I love them.

  676. 1ofthosehatefulbitches says:

    692. Oh you mean when Amanda hid out and didn’t own up to being an admin on that new board? Or when she let the owner take the fall by herself? Not sure which of those was sweeter or more endearing. Oh maybe it was when she pressured her not to honest about that board?
    What a sweet girl!

  677. Messy says:

    #694 I know~ I just was letting Peach decide which sweet side of her to expand upon πŸ˜€

  678. riffrafflittleman says:

    Let’s see, I know what several of the people who were on the board with her think. The only one I really don’t, why that would be miss Amber. Who decided to screw the others by closing the board with no warning. Not giving a rat’s ass what they had invested (time and money) and now she’s kissing ass to get back in good with the CDN crowd. Because she NEVER said a bad word about CDN, ever, my freaking ass.

  679. Messy says:

    #696 Oh. Amber has had issues with CDN and even said stuff about them??? And then still chose to do the right thing??? OMg!
    Ya know, having an issue (or 50 for that matter) with CDN (a place one CHOOSES to hang out at), and being a total asshat are two different things. Amanda tried to combine them and failed.
    I do not see Amber (whom I disagree with a lot) ass kissing anyone. I see her saying this is how it was supposed to be, this is how it went, and this is why I did what I did.
    If that is what you call ass kissing, then you need lessons…

  680. riffrafflittleman says:

    Did the right thing? Screwing others out of their money is doing the right thing? Maybe I’d rather be wrong then. Amanda made a freaking mistake, it happens. Or Amber did the right thing going back to CDN and making it seem like she was innocent in the whole matter, while throwing everyone else under the bus? Up until this whole stupid thing happened, everyone was quite happy hanging out at both places since they were entirely different boards that had nothing to do with each other. Now people who went to bat for the wholemama’s board got shit for nothing.

  681. Messy says:

    Again, for the eighty-eleventh time… It was never about another board. It was about a vent due to someone Sam considered a friend. The other board had zilch to do with anything other than it was part of the explanation of the rep.
    And ya know, I get the feeling that maybe the board was a CDN bitchfest. Ya know, just watching how it all played out, what the rep said, and what the members said. So, yeah, that was not what Amber had in mind and she did the right thing.

  682. melmelly says:

    So when is this shit storm going to blow past?

  683. DSDM2 says:

    We started a new blog post…

  684. riffrafflittleman says:

    699 for the last time, it was not a CDN bashing board. There were maybe a handful of cdn threads, if that. The vast majority was just people chatting. I realize it doesn’t matter what anyone says, you will believe what you want.

  685. Messy says:

    Just wanted to add a disclaimer today:
    I AM A RAGING BITCH! I am in the worst mood. I know I can bitch with Peach with no hard feelings but I honestly am not sure who a couple of you are… So, I have no hard feelings either way with what went down. After I get a piece of ass and a candy bar, I will be much nicer. Don’t expect that for weeks to come πŸ˜‰ Now, maybe DSDM2 can add a disclaimer to all my posts that I am hormonally impaired and evil without reason?

  686. DSDM2 says:

    Ladies, we have said this in the past, and I will say it again,


  687. Amber says:


    Ok? Fuck you. I am so done trying to fucking straighten shit out. No one is out money. Everyone is getting their fucking money back. Who the hell are you anyway? o.O

    I had issues with things on CDN. I talked about those issues. I said that it was getting to big. That I needed a smaller board. Do I have issues with some people that belong to MCN? Yea. I do. I have issues with women who don’t too. In fucking fact, the one person I asked not to be invited to the fucking board isn’t even on CDN. SO again, incase I wasn’t clear. FUCK YOU.

    Chances are you have no fucking idea about all the SHIT I have been through in the last 48 hours. No you don’t. Because if you did, you wouldn’t be talking shit. If you have an issue with the way I handled things, bring it to me. I have an email address. You want to know who is out the most in this who damn ordeal? ME. I put the most time and attention into the fucking board. Setting shit up. I spent hours upon hours figuring it all out. Alone. Sure, Amanda helped here and there. But I did the most. In fact, I did pretty much everything.

    So get a fuckign clue, let alone a life. You have NO idea what happened. Why the board closed. Why I did what I did. So, one last time, fuck you, just for good measure.

  688. ΕΎΓ‘ba says:

    Sorry DSDM2 – I got all fired up, I’m ready to get back to the regularly scheduled DS drama now.

    Messy – We’re cool, I like you and respect your opinion even when we don’t agree πŸ™‚

  689. Amber says:

    That was supposed to say the one person I didn’t want invited to the board was not even on MCN. Not CDN. Too many abbreviations.

  690. Messy says:

    Zaba, same here. I am just out of hormonal control today. 😦 Dd had to tell me a few times last night to stop bitching at the tv and now she won’t watch tv with me tonight! BRAT!

  691. Messy says:

    With that, I be VERY SORRY for being a bitch. I think I will move on to what looks like a frozen diaper thread now… LOL

  692. AMomsHideout says:

    688: There was a Drama of Diaper Traders blog as well.

  693. DSDM2 says:

    There are a few Drama of CDN sites actually. None have drama though b/c you ladies are allowed to fight it out on site without moderation or deleting of threads. There isn’t a need for it, you already “clear the air” so-to-speak.

  694. redfish bluefish says:

    Man oh man. I’m deeply saddened FOR CDN. Sigh.

    *runs back to the frozen diaper entry*

  695. looking and lurking says:

    It’s a shame some people don’t remember the E in YAGE.

  696. nicole says:

    sometimes life really, really hurts.

  697. monkey says:


    I’m glad the Aundy stuff came out.

    I sent her quite a bit of stuff for Christmas for her sons. I was getting ready to send a bunch more stuff. I felt terrible because she was ill (whether that was true or not) and considering everything that had just gone on with my mom wanted to help.

    I don’t care where the information came from, I’m just glad I was told.

  698. monkey says:


    No lie. That was probably the worst I have ever felt about anything on the internet ever. I felt so used and manipulated and lied to. It really sucked.

    NO ONE was happy over that. People really liked Aundy and wanted to help.

  699. NotUrLovah says:

    If ANYONE thinks they know the whole story about Aundy, you don’t. Unless it was YOUR emotions she played on, or she strung YOU along as a friend for over 2 years, calling you on the phone, sending you gifts and you to her, talking with her nearly every day online, sending her pictures of your children. You have NO idea how hurt, how fucking USED I felt, when I found the whole truth out. For someone to take that and throw it around like they know the whole story really fucking pisses me off. I hope that you you never have to experience that kind of betrayal Peach, and then find out people talk about it like they know what happened. You don’t. So shut the fuck up already.

  700. redfish bluefish says:

    717-I’m sorry she hurt you like that. I can relate. And to your whole post- :werd:

  701. redfish bluefish says:

    Peach, really…grow a heart already, to fill the empty hull where one should be. Have some sympathy already and get your head out of your ass and the chip off your shoulder already.

  702. monkey says:


    I’m so sorry. I barely knew her and it hurt the crap out of me, so it must have really sucked for you. Sorry mama!

  703. truth_hurts says:

    Amber is a lying sack of shit. PERIOD! Do not believe a word she says. If anyone was “bashing” CDN on the new site it was Amber. She shut it down without notice so that no one could get screen shots of what a two faced little shit she really is. Then she runs back to CDN playing the victim and deferring all the hatred onto Kim and others.
    Nice Amber, really nice. I don’t know how you sleep at night you nasty little twat! I hope you are fucking happy and I cannot wait until this all catches up with you

  704. KAL says:

    riffraff/ is it Crystal? Do you realize that if Amber hadn’t shut the board down when she did the other admin could have locked her out of her OWN FUCKING BOARD?! I’d have screwed first then to be the one bent the fuck over with only my name on the site! She said she’s returning money others put into it. Hopefully she does what she says.

  705. not me at all says:

    721 that board had THREE people paying for it and running it. Two of them WERE locked out of their own Fing board.

    Amber threw a bunch of really nice Mama’s under the bus. NOT cool!

  706. Incognizable says:

    hmmm…. ‘whole mama’ drama :popcorn:

  707. KAL says:

    Amber’s was the ONLY name on it. If anything legally came up, the only thing she could do was throw her hands in the air.

  708. truth_hurts says:

    Amber is a lying sack of shit. PERIOD! Do not believe a word she says. If anyone was β€œbashing” CDN on the new site it was Amber. She shut it down without notice so that no one could get screen shots of what a two faced little shit she really is. Then she runs back to CDN playing the victim and deferring all the hatred onto Kim and others.
    Nice Amber, really nice. I don’t know how you sleep at night you nasty little twat! I hope you are fucking happy and I cannot wait until this all catches up with you

  709. Madre says:

    692- I do have a better group silly woman. I spend the majority of my time online talking to them & meeting up IRL wjen I can. I don’t hate CDN, you just seem so balls to the wall about it.

  710. redfish bluefish says:

    pass the :popcorn: please.

  711. not me at all says:

    Amber did the right thing??? The right thing like go in and change the password and email to the paypal account linked to AMANDA’S bank account without telling her so that she had to close her bank account? She has not refunded Jill either though someone else refunded Amanda (ie NOT Amber)

    Amber screwed ppl left and right, talked shit about ppl and then hid it all away and went running back to CDN.

    PS.. DSDM2 what is your email addy I have something to send you

  712. Amber says:

    If Amanda closed her bank account, thats on her. I told her that her bank information was deleted from the account that night. She could have called paypal and verified (she was on the phone with them anyway…). It was the boards paypal account, it just had her name on it. Which, had she requested, she could have had access to.

    They have both been refunded, from Lianas paypal account. We both covered the fees. Since now the board belongs to both of us. I just checked the status of Jills refund, and it is unclaimed. It was sent to the paypal that she paid into the board with. I will do some investigating, and get the payment to the correct paypal.

    I never talked shit about anyone. I didn’t delete anything to hide anything. I do know that you’re sitting on a computer, hiding behind a screen name, probably completely unaware of what really went down. So continue on with your bad self. πŸ™‚ I really could care less at this point.

  713. Amber says:

    Just an update, Jill has been refunded, to the correct paypal account. Since her customer service email, and actual payment emails are two different things, she didn’t get it last night. But she should have it now.

  714. TeamB4me says:

    This is Amanda-RmeWife.
    (DSDM/2 I won’t drag this out. I know this isn’t what this blog is about.)

    I have had alot happening in my real life and haven’t had much computer access.
    I found out I was banned I believe the day after it happened. I was traveling at the time. I have asked Sam to contact me to let me know how things got from point A to point B. But I haven’t heard from her yet.
    After I posted a couple of times on that thread, I had told Sam in a pm that I wouldn’t be posting in the thread again. I had told her I would answer any questions she had and I apologized for the way she took the rep I sent. And I do see how she took it the way she did. She had no idea at that point that the person was member. I disagree with the thread being started but (obviously as I did) we all do things in the heat of the moment and well it is what is now. There were many things said about me and assumptions made about me that were wrong. I have been shocked and hurt by some things said by people that don’t know me at all.
    As far as stepping down as a mod, I had told a friend on the board weeks before that I thought I would be stepping down. There were several situations that happened and I just knew I was the kind of mod that would fit with CDN. SO there was no one situation-it was a combination of things. I didn’t step down bitter or with negative feelings towards Sam at all. Shortly after stepping down I sent her a pm thanking her for sticking her neck out with her friends to stand up for me. I apprecaited it.
    Anyway obviously right now the situation with Amber is the most hurtful one. BUt I can’t even go there right now. I am sad. I am angry.
    Thank you to those that have spoken up. I haven’t been able to really get online and deal with this while dealing with my family stuff-so I apprecaite that some have tried to deal with some of the assumptions, etc.
    I dont know when I will be on the computer again and I know they dont want this board eaten up with this-I just wanted to IDK speak up.
    there is probably a ton of typos-on a crummy puter.

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