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Unhappy Am I being to picky or is this “normal?” *pics*

I ordered a custom from a WAHM based on recommendations here on DS. She was great- stayed in contact with me throughout the process, shipped promptly, no issues at all I got the item today and the quality is…. well… questionable. None of the raw edges are finished, strings are hanging everywhere, the seams don’t line up (which isn’t really a big deal) and one seam shows the lettering on the selvage. I emailed her asking if she normally sends out items with raw edges left unfinished, she very promptly replied that she has always done it this way and that she has made this item the same way for over 50 customers with no problems/complaints. She also said that the strings should wash away when I wash it- she doesn’t prewash cotton wovens because they don’t shrink

Am I being picky thinking this workmanship is not quite up to par? Should I follow up or just leave it alone? I’m I wrong for assuming that the edges would be finished? Should I have asked first before placing the order???? I guess most of my frustration is that I sew and could have totally made this item myself, but I don’t have a serger so that is why I paid someone else to do it

I paid for the fabric upfront and sent it to her (which was more $$ than she charged to sew it), so even if she refunds me (which I haven’t asked for and she hasn’t offered) I’m still out of the fabric. I’m going to wash it like she suggested, but I’m nervous that putting those raw edges through the wash is going to create a mess. Guess I’ll just have to wait and see.

This is what DD was going to wear for her 2nd birthday party on Sunday

Mismatched seams, wonky stitching, visible selvage
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Visible selvage (you can see parts of the writing peaking out)
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And pics of the unfinished edges with fraying…
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Re: Am I being to picky or is this “normal?” *pics*

I just went to check out the mama’s WAHM thread again…. between the time I ordered and now she has been banned for 6 months Is there any way to find out WHY someone has been banned???
  1. Munklettes says:


  2. ~*~Momma~*~ says:


  3. theinvisible says:

    Oh, hell no. I’d be pissed. If fifty customers let that quality slide they should be ashamed.

  4. FunnyMama says:

    File, file, file! That’s disgusting that someone who calls herself a WAHM would let a product like that leave her sewing table.

  5. Incognizable says:

    Which DS wahm was recently banned?? I don’t go to DS to keep up.

  6. werd says:

    oh no 😦 I know who made that… and she’s a very frequent poster here on the blog. I’ll let her out herself, though.

    PS: she was banned for speaking her mind, NOT for scamming or anything like that!!

  7. ohlol says:

    that is fucking HIDEOUS. how does someone send out a product like that and NOT expect the customer to be upset? christ on a cracker.

  8. shiftyeyed says:

    crap. #7 was me.

  9. FunnyMama says:

    regardless of if she’s a frequent poster, that’s a horrible way to build your business.

  10. mylilgirls says:

    4-file for what? If the WAHM got DC, then the OP is SOL. Hopefully the OP can work something out, but for $7 PPD I don’t see much of a resolution being made here. 😦

    DSDM-I have a new email addy now due to my crazy stalker person (nothing to do with DS or CDN). My old email addy is now inactive. Thought I’d give you a heads up on the different email addys.

  11. shiftyeyed says:

    sorry, DSDM- the other name was one I used on fluffybutt’s blog. πŸ˜€

  12. werd says:

    I did not say anything about her business, just that she is a frequet poster here. I contacted her about this and I think she may be working right now – give her a chance to reply before you guys go off. She’s not one to run away from an issue, she’s just not online right now!

  13. DSDM2 says:

    I don’t care who she is, that sewing is horrible and not up to WAHM standard. At the very least it should have been pre-washed and shrunk, serged (or something to keep fraying to a minimum), and the stitching… the stitching is the worst.

  14. bonzai says:

    I don’t understand the need for secrecy and veiled comments when the WAHM herself showed off this piece of work in the thread I linked above.

  15. DSDM2 says:

    I can’t see that thread.

  16. werd says:

    OFFS people! When I posted what I posted, half of the comments that are there now, weren’t. They must have had to be approved. I’m not condoning anything, I was just saying. Good god.

  17. shiftyeyed says:

    i didn’t think you were condoning anything, werd. i get it.

  18. werd says:

    I was trying to be nice and let her come forward herself because when I posted, she hadn’t been outed. NEVER did I say it was good work, or give her a break, or anything of the sort. I PMed her to direct her to this thread and I’m pretty sure she is working right now so she isn’t online.

    If I ever messed up like that for the first time (AFAIK) and there was a post on here about it, I would hope someone would direct me and let me explain/apologize or whatever. That’s all I was trying to do. Silly me.

  19. DSDM2 says:

    Werd, no one said you did anything wrong. I hope that this post encourages her to make right with the buyer, and then to expand her skills some prior to selling more items like that.

  20. Incognizable says:

    You are really kind-hearted Werd! I don’t see you defending with her work at all. I hope she comes here soon.

  21. Hexe says:

    That is some craptastic sewing. But who would even offer to sew an outfit for $7ppd? Not WHAM work but also not WHAM price.

  22. JustPeachy says:

    Trust me I have dealt with this WAHM before and I am sure its just an honest mistake and she will most definitely fix it. IDK why the hell the poster didnt think hmmmm send an email to the paypal addy,

  23. theinvisible says:

    Oh crap. I knew I recognized that fabric.

  24. naturalmamadot says:

    7ppd? well shit I dunno if Id expect much at that price anyways lol, not defending the quality of work but man thats cheap

  25. naturalmamadot says:

    wow first time it didnt give me the “duplicate comment” error message! woot

  26. Aj says:

    So who’s the WAHM? The CDN link doesn’t work for me.

  27. Hexe says:

    #23 I understand that the WHAM is realy nice and would make it right, but how can that be a mistake? It is just not professional sewing.

  28. JustPeachy says:

    Maybe she didn’t realize how jacked up it appeared to be? And the selvage edge was because she didn’t have enough fabric or something.

  29. Munklettes says:

    I don’t have a serger, so when I sew with woven fabric, I cut it with pinking shears so the edges don’t fray. I always prewash everything, though, even fleece because you never know what fabric will bleed.

  30. smartassmama says:

    I actually ordered a dress from a known fitteds store once, and the edges are bad like that. It’s functional, but if you turn I over it looks bad.

    For $7 I wouldn’t expect a whole lot. But, for $7 I wouldn’t send expensive, HTF fabric either.

  31. verucasalt says:

    I don’t have a dog in this fight, just wanted to tell you that I looked for “diaperswappers drama” on Swagbucks, got $2 yesturday and $4 today! LOL So I get to read and enjoy the drama AND get paid to do it! That ROCKS!

  32. Hexe says:

    # sounds a bit far fetched, she is not blind and if there wouldn’t have been enough fabric she should have told her customer.
    I looked at the show off thread and it actualy doesn’t look perfect on there either. Specialy the close up photos show a lot of sewing problems. The pocket on the second dress is hiddeous, the cut , the sewing, everything.
    On the other hand sewing for $5 I wouldn’t call selling an item.

  33. Munklettes says:

    32 – I just won one searching for it πŸ™‚

  34. melmelly says:

    I guess I should have gotten caught up on the 100+ comments I hadn’t read from the other post.


  35. Sala says:

    I can sew better and I don’t consider myself professional or even decent. Maybe ok. That’s some horrible sewing. Especially where the topstitching or whatever that is wavers more than half an inch up and down. And I would a. never NOT pre-wash fabric, esp. cotton, it can and does shrink. Everyone knows this; b. never have the selvage showing – I often cut pieces with the selvage on so I don’t have to finish them or so they won’t fray. But I always make sure I am sewing no where near the selvage. It’s not just the writing being barely visible but the almost holey aspect on the other side of the seam – that’s selvage too.

    About the finishing – I never did before I got a serger ($200 – if you are selling your work, buy the tools!). So that doesn’t bother me a whole lot. Ok, fine. But the seams weren’t opened and pressed – is that not done anymore? That’s how I was taught and I think it looks better. Your opinions?

  36. Munklettes says:

    37 – I am by no means a professional, but mt mom taught me to press the seams.

  37. MotherMoonPads says:

    I remember there being discussions on both DS and CDN about WAHMs not prewashing their fabric (in the WAHM areas of both).

    I personally prewash, but a surprising number of WAHMs do not, and just allow for shrinkage in their patterns.

  38. nicole says:

    Am I the only one who noticed the difference in the photos between what the buyer posted and of what the seller posted?

    maybe they’re different items? Maybe the cameras are different but the photos posted by the buyer make the cloth look as though it’s faded, and in the sellers photos there’s no sign of bad sewing.


  39. nicole says:

    Eh, nevermind 1/2 the photos are inside out.

  40. melmelly says:

    I agree Peachy(#29). Looking at the Etsy listing for the fabric, there was only 1/2 yard of each fabric. I made some skirts for a friend a few years ago and used 1/2 yard for each.

    If the OP knows how to sew, then I would hope she knows to wash fabric before she sews with it. If she does know this, then why didn’t she wash it before she sent it off to the WAHM?

    I have always been told to wash fabric before you use it because some could bleed, some can shrink, the list goes on.

  41. coffeehoar says:

    My bff taught me how to sew, and I only sew for my family, and I had it knocked into me that you prewash, stay away from selvage, and press the seams. Pinking shears are also a must if you don’t have a serger.

  42. Hexe says:

    #40 the sewing doesn’t look perfect to me in the sellers picture, specialy not when you look at the close up. There are some issues with the dress as well.
    The sellers items are very cheap, also on her HC. I don’t know, but I would not expect too much….

  43. theinvisible says:

    LOL nicole!

  44. nicole says:

    I don’t sew, I can’t even sew on a button. I’ll be placing my nose back where it belongs, on my face! hope this gets resolved.

  45. Kristen says:

    #42- I recently did some sewing for a trade and the mama ordered the fabric from Etsy and had it shipped directly to me. I washed it before I began sewing. So maybe that’s what happened in this case as well.

  46. Messy says:

    😦 That person (from the CDN link) is one of the sweetest people! I know this is a mistake somehow/someway. Perhaps it is not the same dress? Coincidense?

  47. sciencefair says:

    I could sew that for $7. But I use pinking shears, so it will be $10

  48. FunnyMama says:

    Okay, I know that the WAHM in question is a sweet, non-scamming mama who wanted to help someone out at a fair price. I also understand that she’s a frequent poster here which may endear her to us. I happen to like this mama (from what I’ve seen of her posts) very much. However that’s a much separate issue from sub-par work. Bad sewing won’t change my opinion of her as a person, only as a business woman.

  49. smurfmeat says:

    Somebody mentioned the prices on her HC. Link?

  50. DSDM2 says:

    So speaking of WAHM work not being up to par… did anyone notice that Fluffy Ass posted in that thread (of course)? Then she puts this on her blog:


    February 19, 2010 by felishasjourney

    I’m taking advantage of daddy and baby bonding time and working on a few projects.. Well more like doing research..

    I’m about to cut out a pattern I’m making and hope it works for my idea.

    After practicing and maybe running testers hopefully it’s something that I could sell.. Make a little money to fund other projects. πŸ™‚

    Out of the few forums I’m on I haven’t really seen a market for this so I’m hoping it will sell.

    Posted in Uncategorized | Leave a Comment Β»

  51. Sala says:

    #52, that’s going to end badly. It can’t possibly go well.

    Then again, maybe she has mad skills in sewing AND drama. It’s possible. I mean, just because she spends all day online and inciting drama doesn’t mean she can’t be crafty too or good at it.

    Nah, I’m still going with can’t end well. You need to put time into projects for them to go well. That especially includes anything you’re selling.

  52. Kristen says:

    I find it amusing that someone who wants to be a sewing WAHM doesn’t know what pinking shears are.

  53. Kristen says:

    55- coughjustfatcough

  54. Hexe says:

    No, she is just not the thinnest. Would not be her dh’s if she is pregnant, but I am sure she would find an explanation for that as well, not being her fault of course….

  55. Kristen says:

    I bet she’d try to play that whole immaculate conception card.

  56. kukukachoo says:

    well he was home 6 months ago so that could be a 6 month belly. guess not, but man it looks like it.

  57. Sala says:

    Nah, she’s just a bit fluffy IMO. Not that it would be any of my business one way or the other but I expect she’d be sharing the news with all and sundry. Esp. 6 months in.

    And that is the last on that subjest that I will say anything on. I suspect most of us are +/- that fluffy, too; I know I don’t like it when people are wondering if I’m fat or pregnant so regardless of what a drama queen she is, this is not something I’m comfortable commenting on. One’s size has absolutely no bearing on one’s worth as a person, ability to incite drama, or ability to be annoying.

  58. Sala says:

    “subject” not “subjest.” unless I’m making up new words.

  59. sciencefair says:

    LOL…did anyone else read SFF’s comment. Shoe to stay off line. Hint hint.

  60. kukukachoo says:

    i’m fat myself! no criticizing here.

  61. DSDM2 says:

    63, I saw that, lol.

  62. naturalmamadot says:

    No I didnt, whered she say that?

  63. Roxyrocks says:

    I honestly thought she was pregnant too when I clicked the link…

  64. FunnyMama says:

    My mind is spinning thinking about all the crass and witty things I could say re: Fluffy’s testers and patterns…

  65. DSDM2 says:

    66, on the “he is home” thread she posted.

    Anyone else notice her bitching about SIL again in the blog about him coming home? Nothing is ever enough, she is always negative, and problems are never her fault, she is always the victim.

  66. magpiedpiper says:

    Hexe dear – it’s WAHM.
    Not WHAM.

    And I am saddened by this. I really like the seller in question. I am sure she will rectify it somehow.

    I love that fabric, btw. Super adorable.

  67. smartassmama says:

    In a thread a few weeks ago she mentioned not wanting to get another car until they have another child. I told her I hoped she kept that car for a long time. She never got it.

    If she were ever a WAHM I would not buy. No way, No how. They’d smell of Marlboro anyway.

    I wonder what will come of the OP.

  68. eep says:

    Yikes. You guys are really disgusting.. and it shows. You are rellentless when you decide on someone to pick in. And this is coming from someone who has no affiliation to either person in question.

  69. magpiedpiper says:

    DSDM2 – I rolled my eyes when I saw that. Why complain about her SIL who was good enough to be there and take pictures in the first place? Funny how we haven’t seen any evidence of her own supposedly awesome photog skills. Well, other than the shoe…but I don’t think that counts.

  70. smartassmama says:

    69. I thought the same exact thing. Like, just be glad he’s home and shut up about it. Gripe much?

  71. thewayhome says:

    my husband was deployed for 6 months and I didn’t give a flying rats butt about pictures at the airport. I was just beyond thankful that he was home.

  72. smartassmama says:

    yeah. I’d think there would be other things to worry about. Granted, I am not a military wife, so I don’t know what that’s like at all. But I’d be more concerned with spending time. And that picture wasn’t that bad imo.

  73. JustPeachy says:

    Maybe its not the picture thats bad but one of the subject matters (begins with an F).

  74. naturalmamadot says:

    69- all I can find that she posted was

    Congrats on his homecoming! That is great you all are together, now you can have some nice quiet family time.

    did she edit or am I missing something

  75. magpiedpiper says:

    And dang, if my hubby who I hadn’t seen in 6 months and was leaving again shortly was sleeping, you can bet your butt I would be snuggled up there with him whether or not I was sleepy – not posting on the internet. But it takes all kinds I guess.

  76. magpiedpiper says:

    77 – I think you are supposed to read between the lines. Quiet family time = NOT being on the computer.

  77. naturalmamadot says:

    oh I got that, I must of mis read what a PP said she said lol

    I get it now she was CALLING felisha “shoe” and saying she told “shoe” to stay offline…took me long enough! haha

    I actually imagined her thinking “oh thank god her husbands home now she can STFU”

  78. naturalmamadot says:

    and I totally agree 79

  79. Hexe says:

    #70 WAHM WAHM WAHM Happy now?

  80. theinvisible says:

    72 inorite, and we neglect our kids too because we are so busy tearing people up the interwebz –rolling eyes–

  81. Myra says:

    And Felisha is a relentless pot-stirring drama queen attention whore. You know what she could do to be left alone? Quit being a relentless pot-stirring drama queen attention whore.

  82. SweetP says:

    My baby’s sleepin’…it’s mama (drama) time now. πŸ™‚

  83. magpiedpiper says:

    83 – lol. Yes. Just a personal pet peeve because my brain automatically fills in the acronym when I read it, and Work Home At Mom confuses mah poor brainz.

  84. Myra says:

    I like WHAM better..I read it and think “wake me up before you go go”.

  85. magpiedpiper says:


    I think “Last Christmas, I gave you my heart…”

  86. SweetP says:

    87 — That’s Wicked Hard-Ass Mom to you

  87. magpiedpiper says:

    Ahh, so I just had the acronym incorrect. That one’s a little scary. πŸ™‚

  88. SweetP says:

    There’s no drama like WHAM drama, let me tell you.

  89. eep says:

    @84.. Yeah, for some people its completely out of control. The time you waste to bash and stalk various people like I’ve seen could definitely be put to more meaningful use.. with your kids, or whatever. I just don’t see anything positive or productive to stalk people and ZOMG at everything; SIL, pics, yaddayadda.

  90. melmelly says:

    Oh magpie! You broke my heart! Here I thought that George Michael was going to grace us with his presence. Bummer deal dude.

  91. smartassmama says:

    I totally have an Eli Stone moment whenever I see the words George Michael.

    And with all due respect, how is telling us how we’re mismanaging out time, not mismanaging your own? I’m not trying to be catty, I just don’t see the logic.

  92. smartassmama says:

    AAaaaand let the “duplicate comment” commence. lol

    Knew it was too good to be true! lol

  93. Hexe says:

    #89 Wake me up before you go-go

  94. melmelly says:

    Totally off topic, but do any of your schools participate in the Box Tops program? I just inherited the coordinator position for mine and I have found that the previous coordinator sucked monkey butt for getting info out there. So I am just wondering how your schools get parents and kids involved, etc.

  95. MotherMoonPads says:

    So. I have a question. When you get a shoddy product from a WAHM, but she refunds immediately, what feedback do you leave? Positive, but mention the product? no feedback at all?

  96. Myra says:

    Aw, don’t be like that, Hexe. All in jest.

    Smartassmama, exactly. To know the drama, eep must read and keep up. Gonna have to point that finger at your damn self, eep.

    Lol that Eli Stone clip was on heavy rotation on my boyfriend Joel’s show when it came out.

  97. smartassmama says:

    I very much loved Eli Stone! tWas a sad evening when he had his last halucination 😦

  98. All I am going to say about this:
    #1- The buyer has been given a complete refund. There was a lot of dishonesty and half-truths involved in the original thread here.
    #2- Low prices do not make me a scam, and I resent that being said. They make me a thrifty mama who buys on sales, with coupons, etc, and passes that savings on to my customers with lower prices. It’s part of my mission for my business.
    #3- The dress shown in my thread linked about is being sold as a second, because I know there’re a couple issues here and there, which is why it is being sold at-cost. It is a new pattern I am working on, and you’ll see in the thread that I ASKED for opinions on it, as it is new.
    #4- I appreciate the people here who know me and my character, and have stood up for me as a person, regardless of the words of this buyer.

    That’s all.

  99. Oh, and thanks for the heads-up, Werd. I am thankful there are classy people here who will give a woman a chance before they join the mob and string her up.

  100. melmelly says:

    47 – I was going to post again that may have also been a possibility, but I was too busy texting with my sister. She got a huge junk mail envelope of Kotex pads in the mail today. She couldn’t get over how random it was. lol

  101. smartassmama says:

    Funny thing Melmelly, *my* sister is the type of girl who’d be the sender of random Kotex. lol

  102. melmelly says:

    smartassmama – Do you read Jorge Garcia’s (Hurley on LOST)blog? Last year he had a post about all the coupons he had to buy toilet paper. So then one of his blog readers got his address off the blog (to a production place) and submitted it to some site and Jorge ended up with a bunch of Tampax. Funniest stuff I had read in a long time!

  103. FunnyMama says:

    @Deviate – nowhere in either thread do you or the buyer state that it was a second, which I find hard to believe because it was a custom piece to begin with. There is no mob mentality going on here; there are, in fact, several of us who defend you as a person and no one has said you are in the least bit scammer-ish. I’m sure it’s very hard not to take this personally as you must be very proud of your work (as we all are of our own creations), but consider this a hard lesson learned.

  104. ~*~Momma~*~ says:

    #107 – FWIW I think she meant the ‘other’ dress (with the pocket) in that thread was the second

  105. melmelly says:

    I thought she was saying the green dress w/white pocket was being sold as a second. Not the custom.

  106. The skirt is not a second- it is a completely different story. I clearly stated that the dress I posted in the thread with the skirt that was being critiqued in earlier posts, was a second.
    I truly am not taking it personally. Truly. I am a touch irritated that there was not complete honesty, and that’s all.
    I am not going to discuss the buyer and the situation, because I will just look like an angry WAHM, lashing out at some one who didn’t like what she bought. I am classier than that. I am very familiar with owning my own.

  107. shiftyeyed says:

    iz even more confused nao!

  108. FunnyMama says:

    my bad re: the dress.

  109. magpiedpiper says:

    What the heck is that chick talking about that she is being blamed here and elsewhere, etc etc? Pretty sure that while Deviate said there were half-truths, that she specifically wasn’t going to bash the buyer.

  110. melmelly says:

    113 – Which chick? The buyer? Or one of us on here? Lil confuzzled. I think I am brewing a fourth headcold of the season.

  111. FunnyMama says:

    114 – buyer said that she was accused of (quotes are not verbatim) “public outing on two separate boards” and “attacking” the WAHM. I don’t see any of that anywhere; there was no discussion whatsoever of the transaction for which I applaud Deviate. The buyer is stirring a big ole pot for drama’s sake.

  112. DevaiteFromTheNorm says:

    I have been nothing but apologetic throughout this entire situation. The buyer has had her refund from me, as well as payment for the fabric used, for nearly 12 hours now, and has been posting and emailing, and chooses not to mention it.
    There were time and fabric constraints in this situation that dictated much of how I did the skirt. Yes, I see a flaw in the stitching. I also see a couple spots where the back hems do not match-up. The reason they are there is because of the salvage edges I needed to use, and I was attempting to tuck them into pleats to hide them from obvious view.
    I see that since receiving the refunds/payment, she is still continuing on her DS thread, so I sent her an additional email, asking what I can do to make the situation right by her. The response from her was this:

    “Like I said, I don’t want any more money and if you send it I will just send it back. And I’m NOT being that way to be a smart a$$, DD has a skirt that she is going to wear. I am finished with this whole thing. It is DD’s second birthday and I’m not going to let this ruin her weekend by putting anymore time, stress, anguish into this.”
    She is acknowledging that she has her money, she has a skirt her daughter can wear, a skirt that in her previous email she said was, “Adorable, but I’m worried it might fray a little.”
    All of her money was refunded and re-issued before I saw the DS thread, or even read this blog. When I received the email from her yesterday afternoon, saying how she was a little worried about the edges fraying, I asked her to run it through the wash, and let me know how it looked. I then left for work. I came home last night to an email from her, stating that it frayed a touch, and she had found a spot with uneven stitching, as well as the seams not matching up (which I explained with the pleats), and said she DIDN’T want a refund, she just wanted to give me some constructive criticism. I apologized profusely, and sent her the entire refund, etc. Then, I see this crap storm that ALSO unfolded while I was at work.
    I truly don’t know what else I can do. I did my best to work within the constraints I had, and have done my best to rectify the situation. I am deeply saddened that she is unhappy, and have done my best to make it right. She is refusing to acknowledge any of that on her DS, thread, which has bread into that 8-page thread. I am at a loss as to what else I should do.

  113. FunnyMama says:

    You’ve done and said everything you possibly can and she’s still dragging this out; ball’s in her court now. This whole situation certainly did not warrant an 8-pg thread, especially when the buyer states that she wanted to handle this transaction as stress-free as possible. This totally could have been handled very differently on the buyer’s behalf.

  114. dirtyj says:

    I see why she is unhappy with it but she is overreacting quite a bit. Apparently you are harassing her??
    and why did she claim that she didnt know how to get a hold of you since you were banned? Clearly she was in contact with you. Since you refunded her and all.

  115. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    118- Yes, she has been in contact via email with me almost daily(often several times a day regarding specific details) since the communication/transaction began a little over a week ago. She knew EXACTLY how to reach me, and if nothing else, the PayPal address she sent the money to. She is misrepresenting that as well.

  116. angelique says:

    sorry deviate. it does sound like you did everything you could to resolve the situation. it is certainly a lesson to all not to judge until you get both sides. reminded me of the MC issue. I knew she was not telling the whole truth about all her actions and pot stirring and eventually that came to light. not saying the other party was totally innocent but it was just crazy how quickly the witch hunt for the other party started before all the facts even came out. this buyer really needs to let it go. there is only so much a seller can do to resolve the issue.

  117. werd says:

    and THIS is why I was posting here when this issue first came to light. We need to remember that there is ALWAYS 2 sides to every story! How convenient that this buyer failed to mention that not only did the WAHM refund for the work AND shipping, but she also refunded for the cost of fabric, too! Regardless of the stitching flaws, that is good customer service and that is how things should be when a WAHM fuds up.

    Despite what everyone wants to think, we are NOT perfect. I myself have messed up an order on the co-op… and the buyer is getting a replacement pad, plus an extra for her troubles.

    FunnyMama, I fund it humorous that you were one of the first to crucify the WAHM without hearing the whole story, and now you are in support of the WAHM and bashing the buyer… now that you have heard the other side. Hmm. How about that?

  118. Incognizable says:

    I am glad Sam (Mom) posted on her thread and pointed out that the OP was refunded last night!!

    I think the OP needs to edit her original post with her resolution and stop stirring the pot and expecting ass-pats!

  119. looking and lurking says:

    i wish someone would call the op out in that thread. she’s making the wahm look awful. not even saying tht shes done anything to make it right.

  120. cdnation says:

    I’m pretty sure that Mom would rather NOT have anyone at DS know who she is.

    Not that they couldn’t figure it out if they really tried.

  121. Incognizable says:

    oh noez..LOL, but hey your name is sam and you are a mom.

  122. FunnyMama says:

    121 – I bashed the work, not the WAHM. That skirt is not acceptable, regardless of time or fabric constraints. I knew very early on who the seller was, and I’ll repeat: my opinion of her hasn’t changed, but the fact still remains that she sent out a poorly sewn product.

  123. me says:

    124-? Sam has her s/n in her siggy. If she doesn’t want people to know who she is, why does she have that?

  124. FunnyMama says:

    I’ll amend my previous statement: I was quick to judge when I didn’t know who the seller was, but given her reputation (good) I clarified my viewpoint.

  125. jakesmom says:

    #98 our school sends home a paper about the program, and then once every couple of weeks they send home a worksheet they get online somewhere that has diffrent activies where the kids have to glue the box tops on the paper, mine always has a lot of fun with it.

  126. me says:

    Now I’m confused. Okay then!

  127. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    She is saying I refunded her at 5:30 this morning. Not true. For those I know and trust, I am happy to show a screen shot of the REFUND I sent her last night, when I arrived home from work.

  128. cdnation says:

    Me– that’s why I said it wouldn’t be hard to figure out

  129. werd says:

    Oh she’s a lovely lady, isn’t she. She’s crawling up MY butt now. Seriously, how do you NOT at least mention that you were refunded not only for the work but also for the fabric?!

  130. werd says:

    M what time did you send the refund? Is it possible it didn’t post until 5:30 am?

  131. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    It posted at 2:30am, according to my SS of my PP account. DSDM has the SS’s. The refund went through immediately when I got home, but the actual payment I sent to cover the fabric (since it wasn’t a refund) appears to have taken a couple hours longer.

  132. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    ” HeatherlovesCDs
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    Re: Am I being to picky or is this “normal?” *pics*
    The last time OP posted on this site (before just now) was last night. She may have just gotten to her computer this AM. It doesn’t seem to me that the OP is being dishonest or trying to hide anything. ”

    In response, yes, she knew of the refunds late last night. I have the emails proving that.

  133. werd says:

    So did she know of the work refund by the time she had posted on the thread around midnight last night?

  134. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    137- According to my emails, my initial email last night, apologizing to her and telling her a complete refund for the cost of the skirt had been sent at 10:48, immediately after I got home. I knew I got home around 11:00pm, so that makes sense. I always sit down and immediately check my email when I get home. We exchanged several emails after that, because I read her thread on DS, the blog here, and saw what she was REALLY saying about me, instead of the sweet, ‘Oh, no, I don’t want a refund, it’s a very cute skirt, she can definitely still wear it, I’m just worried about the fraying, here’s some constructive criticism for you….’ tone and message I was getting in my inbox.

  135. werd says:

    can someone do me a favor and SS this thread on DS, specifically what I posted in it? I want proof in case DS tries to ban me or something for posting. I want proof that I wasn’t inflammatory or hateful or whatever they put in the siggies when they ban someone. I don’t trust anyone over there anymore and I’d like proof *just in case*

    M do you know the exact time you refunded? The last time she posted on that thread was 11:34, saying some stuff you supposedly accused her of. Had she been refunded by that point?

  136. naturalmamadot says:

    I got screen shots of all pages if you want me to email them to you werd (or facebook them to you lol)

  137. naturalmamadot says:

    actually I forgot were not fb friends anymore haha, so I could email them to your work email or something. (i figured you deleted me because we didnt talk much and you didnt remember me haha)

  138. DSDM2 says:

    I’m posting the SS of them now.

    If she is EST, one is 5:30 when it cleared. The other is last night early.

  139. werd says:

    thank you!! I’ll PM you on CDN!

  140. werd says:

    thats weird, I have never deleted anyone from my FB!

  141. naturalmamadot says:

    really haha I went to look at my friends the other day and you were no longer on there, I didnt take it personally because I figured you just forgot who I was haha. who knows with all the fb updates and glitches lately!

  142. kukukachoo says:

    the emphasis on the refund proclamation seems fruitless to me.
    unfortunately, whatever damage will be done to the seller’s rep is going to come primarily from the product that was delivered.

  143. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    139- Yes, the first email I sent her was about the refund, at 10:48. The second email I sent her was in response to her DS thread and after seeing the blog, and reading her thread on DS, I wrote her again telling her I could see what was being said about me here, as well as on DS, and how disappointing it was that I was being smeared this way without being given a chance to make things right, if she thought it was wrong.

  144. DSDM2 says:

    OK, let’s see if this works:

    Here is the SS (edited by ME to remove personal info):



  145. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    Yikes. Paint was not kind.

  146. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    146- The point is that she is continuing on in her thread on DS, long after I told her the refund was issued AND it was issued, and she refused to mention that. It’s showing her pattern of dishonesty, or at the very least, pattern of leaving things out.

  147. werd says:

    146 I VERY strongly disagree. Someone on CDN told me once that “they don’t just buy the product, they buy the seller too” and I think that is SO true. The OP is making the seller out to be this difficult person who appeared to not want to resolve the issue… and that is not what really happened.

    M you know I love you, but yes, there were flaws in the stitiching/production of the skirt. But to me, if I read that a buyer contacted a WAHM about their unhappiness with a product, and she promptly apologized and refunded them and also refunded them for the fabric, I would be more likely to buy from that WAHM in the future. Versus hearing about a WAHM who made a skirt with stitching issues, who didn’t offer to do anything about the situation, and who then got nasty with the buyer and never resolved anything. BIG difference!

  148. melmelly says:

    Thank you 129! I was looking at the sheets last week and was hoping to get them passed out to several grades. It would make it fun for the kids, but then it might be a PITA for me to take them off when I am counting! Our school has been severely slacking on the program. Our school could really use the money, and I know there is a lot of potential to make the most of it.

  149. werd says:

    PS: wow I feel like a defense attorney right now LOL!

  150. werd says:

    nice attempt at outing me on DS, but I don’t hide who I am here and pretty much everyone knows who I am/what I make. I’d change my posting name but then no one would know who I was!

  151. Incognizable says:

    I noticed that too Werd. Lame.

  152. kukukachoo says:

    151. I think you’re right to an extent. IMO, when sellers make mistakes (wahm or not) and it’s like “oops, i missed that stain”, or “oh gosh, i didn’t notice my stitching was crooked there” then people generally understand and as long as an acceptable solution was offered by the seller, then no harm done.

    on the other hand, when the complaints are about technique- not mistakes- that’s when the refund just can’t compensate. i’m just being trying to objective here so please don’t persecute me. kay?

  153. werd says:

    seriously, I go out of my way to be respectful in the way I post. I’m not out to get anyone, and I feel badly that DS is unwilling to support WAHM’s when situations like this arise. For the most part, YES, when people post T&F threads, they really were wronged by a WAHM. But then there are those few where its very one-sided and its not fair to the WAHM, since she is not able to defend herself.

    God forbid I get in a situation like this, I could only hope that someone would come to bat for me if they found out that I did everything I could to rectify my wrong-doing. I hate the mob mentality all around and contrary to what you posted on DS kukukachoo, its thriving just as much on there as it is here!

  154. kukukachoo says:

    wait- what did i post on DS?

  155. werd says:

    156 then what do you think she should do? She admits the sewing wasn’t great, she refunded for the sewing job, the shipping and the fabric. What do you think she should do in this situation to rectify?

    I’m not “persecute”ing you. I called you on your outing attempt, plain and simple. And let you know that its futile because most people know who I am.

  156. melmelly says:

    werd – I need to tell you how much I puffy sparkly heart you over this whole mess.

    Deviate – I am sorry you are having to deal with a difficult person.

    Not going to DS. Lost my last computer to it. Still don’t want to risk this one! So who was trying to out you werd?

  157. melmelly says:

    And WTH is up with the long delay in comments showing up on here for me?

  158. werd says:

    gah, I’m done with this. DS is just going to sweep it under the rug anyways. People are going to judge Megan because of her banning regardless of what I post.

    Meg, I’m sorry. I tried to go to bat for you. 😦

  159. kukukachoo says:

    werd, that’s not me on DS. i got banned last week in the fluffy BS. i really think she has done everything she possibly could do and has done it well. which was sort-of my point, i don’t think she should do anything else.

  160. DeviateFromTheNorm says:

    162- I deeply appreciate you defending my character. You are a true friend, and as a fellow WAHM, I know you understand on a different level as well. I cannot express my appreciation.

    Can some one slap around the last chick that just posted? I’m going to puke on the screen if one more person accuses me of poor customer service. The OP turned out to be a nightmare to work for, and I did my best to please within constraints. It wasn’t good enough. I owned it, I went above and beyond to rectify the situation immediately. littlemunchkie09 needs to be slapped with the dead fish emoticon or something.

  161. werd says:

    If its not you, then I apologize! I read what you wrote here and then that post and it sounded like the same person. I’m so sorry!

    I think this is the end of me on DS. I am so disenchanted and plain old disgusted with the way they handle things there. I make a lot of sales on there, but its not worth it to me when they handle things so poorly there. I’m sure that thread will be deleted, handslaps will be issued, and everyone will go on their merry way thinking that Megan is a shitty WAHM. That is so not right!

  162. werd says:

    164 that’s the thing I was trying to get across that went over like everyone’s head. When you are WAHM, the little details DO matter. You are in it all by yourself, and the customers make or break your fate no matter what really happened. I guess I just couldn’t get that across, or no one wanted to hear it. I don’t know. I’m so jaded right now.

  163. Myra says:

    Anguish? Really? Anguish is a miscarriage not a bad seam. Lame. I don’t understand the lengths some of these women go to to get their pats. She knew she wasn’t happy with it. Why waste your time taking pictures and posting? Idk who you are, Deviate, so I can say without bias that the OP made a mountain out of a molehill and was enjoying the limelight too much to admit that you were handling the situation like you should.

  164. Kris says:

    It’s a shame that good handling of a bad situation had to go unremarked because the OP was too busy enjoying the drama. It’s one thing to find fault with the sewing issues, but blatantly ignoring the attempts to make good while continuing to badmouth the WAHM for inaction and poor customer service is just wrong.

  165. nu says:

    #164—I agree…she was a bit harsh and who knows, it might be her having to deal with a customer situation.—you’re not alone, I wanted to slap her myself.

    I don’t even know who deviate is, but her zippity CS would have me buying from her. She didn’t go and hide…or back pedal.

    WAHM’s are who I like to support! πŸ™‚

  166. Incognizable says:

    And the OP anxiously sits and waits…viewing her thread waiting and hoping for more asspats.

    ===========crickets chirping==========

    More viewing.

    ========more crickets chirping==========

    Really? Go enjoy your DD’s birthday yo!

  167. Lolanae says:

    Oh that lady that outted werd always seems to want to step into the drama and stir it up more. I hate seeing her post to any thread.

  168. Aj says:

    Ha ha, I finally figured it out! (I’m a little slow)

  169. Aj says:

    171, really? I’ve always like Matilda’sMum, I think she’s pretty hilarious most of the time.

  170. Myself says:

    173 – sometimes I go ?huh? regarding something she says but otherwise I think she is curious (the outing was totally not cool, though)

  171. amessymama says:

    Quick question.

    What are you supposed to be voting for when you vote at the top of the page (the stars)? Is it how well the blog entry is written? Or how much you enjoy the subject matter of the particular blog entry? Or something else entirely?

    I’ve been wondering that for a while. πŸ™‚

  172. amessymama says:

    Yeah, MM seems to be a pot stirrer. But I do *usually* agree with what she has to say, so it’s OK. πŸ˜‰

    And honestly, I think most of us have been known to give that pot a good stir from time to time.

    As for stepping into the drama, um I *know* we all do that. We’re here aren’t we. πŸ™‚

    The outing did suck though.

  173. smartassmama says:

    I’m too much of a follower. Once I see it’s pre-stirred, I tend to hop in. I know. bad, bad.

  174. matildasmum says:

    I edited my post bc it wasn’t my intention to “out” anyone (although werd expresses her apathy about it?). Regardless, it wasn’t my intention and I apologize.

    Lolanae – I posted in the thread prior to it blowing up so sorry – I don’t think I stirred that pot. I’ve certainly done my fair share of stirring but not in this case. You do have my blessing on using the ignore button on me if my posts bother you that much. I’m a big girl – I can take it. πŸ˜‰

  175. werd says:

    nah, I don’t care if you try to out me or not… like I said, everyone pretty much knows who I am!

  176. smartassmama says:

    now they do. I didn’t (*hides face*). But I’m new and semi-clueless. And keeping a look at your store! Your being real is what makes me want to buy from you more. I don’t like sunshine and bunny farts. I like real.

  177. BFF says:

    Srsly. Ugh.

  178. Myra says:

    Oy..the Dwell/Cake pirate shortie set that I lusted over is on Spots. Must go do anything but buy it.

  179. sciencefair says:

    Deep philisophoical thought…

    I wonder what bunny farts smell like.

  180. smartassmama says:

    Carrots and rainbows. And flowers. πŸ˜€

  181. Incognizable says:

    @184…carrot cake of course πŸ˜‰

  182. amessymama says:

    Clover blossoms.

  183. sciencefair says:

    189 – so in the morning it smells like biscuits and cabbage…and in the evening it smells like little girls?

  184. amessymama says:

    OMG! It’s bearbit. Or a rabbaer. That was huge!! And so, so, so cute.

    OK, back to the dramaz.

  185. amessymama says:

    Or a Bearny.

    Ok, NOW back to the dramaz.

  186. smartassmama says:

    You ever read a thread on the topic of what someone’s husband said/did and think to yourself, “my husband isn’t a jerk after all.” ??
    The “keep it or not” poll has me feeling sorry for this mama, but not, all at the same time.

  187. downy20 says:

    DSDM2 – Those screen shots show the customer’s first and last name. A quick search and I have her home address (I’m harmless though…ha ha). Not sure if you knew that since you said you edited. It looks like you removed the last name in one part but not the other. FYI

  188. tlouise says:

    I’d be pretty pissed if my fabric was ruined like that. Even if the skirt was really cheap (was is 7 ppd?) it’s not worth it for seams that are completely unfinished. You can get a cute skirt for $7 at Target or on sale/clearance at Gymboree.

    I wouldn’t even use pinking shears on a garment- I’ve still had pinked edges unravel during washing, and they may not be comfortable in a garment.

    Regardless of the other circumstances of that transaction, I’m really surprised that anyone who’d been sewing professionally (which I define as ‘someone who sews for money’) would send anything out like that.

  189. MotherMoonPads says:

    #195, I’m still surprised that anyone who sews professionally sends items out without prewashing the fabric first.

  190. ellemnopee says:

    I agree that the buyer sounds difficult. But frankly, I’m appalled that anyone would think it is okay to send out a product that looks like that. The fact that you think it is okay to send out products that look like that doesn’t make me want to buy from you. I understand that mistakes happen, but you don’t deal with it by just sending out a crappy messed up outfit.

  191. JustPeachy says:

    Dude she fucked up and she owned it. WTF more do you want from her?

  192. Messy says:

    #198 EXACTLY!!!

  193. Grogwench says:

    Peachy and Messy…I think people just want to know WHY she felt it was ok to send that skirt out. That sewing is very poor workmanship. If that’s the way she sews, she needs to know that sending that out was unacceptable. If she doesn’t sew like this and it was a mistake, that’s almost worse because she know’s what’s right but still sent that out.
    I think that’s all people want to know. BTW: I have no problems with the way she handled it…she did panty up and did what’s right.

  194. ellemnopee says:

    Well, there really isn’t anything more she can do at this point. She created and put herself in this situation by sending out a poorly made item and now she has to live with the results. I’ve been out of the diapering board scene for awhile, so I know nothing about her, but as a result of this post, I really wouldn’t be comfortable buying from her. I don’t want to risk that the same thing would happen to me. Sure she might give me a full refund, but what I really want is a WAHM is is up front and contacts me if they mess up my item. I understand sewing mistakes happen, that wouldn’t really bother me. Mailing out items that are messed up and hoping to not get caught does.

  195. Messy says:

    #200 M did explain that she had time constraints and material constraints and the reasoning behind sending it out that way. She never said she was showing her best work there; she owned it and did everything she could to fix it. There is nothing else for her to explain. She tried to fix it ASAP and never was not in contact with the OP of the dramarific thread.

  196. melmelly says:

    So did a bunny fart some form of gas that killed the dramaz?

  197. smartassmama says:

    Yeah. I feel bad. My bunny had the drama vaccine 😦 booooo. I need a fix.

  198. Lurker says:

    201-I agree. If she knew it was bad sewing (which she should have, imo), she should have contacted the buyer BEFORE shipping it out. I’m glad she owned up, but why did it go out with no contact. I recently ordered a diaper with some extra inserts. The seller contacted me saying she was having probs with her serger and the inserts weren’t up to par. She gave me the choice to wait till the serger was repaired or a discount on the subpar inserts. That was a great way to handle a similar situation.

  199. cdnation says:


    Give me the info on lailasmommy. I’m getting PM’s about her and need to know what really happened with her.


  200. naturalmamadot says:

    I havent heard negative or positive about her, hope things get worked out asap though. Only 10 posts, I suppose people know her from other boards lol

  201. cdnation says:

    Yep some kind of drama on DS. Figured this was the place to find it.

    I’m going to bed, I’ll check in in the morning. Either here or pm’s if you don’t want to post here.

    Night Y’all.

  202. Hexe says:

    #206, what info do you need? She was allways on the TTC thread on ds.

  203. naturalmamadot says:

    Im really glad scammers are usually dumb enough to try and use the same screen name πŸ™‚

  204. naturalmamadot says:

    I see she has neg fb (quite a bit) and multiple screen names/leaving fake feedback. she had lots of good fsot things and then poof 2 screen names, both have negs and never to return. lovely.

  205. screenname says:

    Wow. I’d love to hear the story behind this.

    She was exchanging fake positive feedback with jessykam88:


    Then she got a bunch of negatives.


  206. melmelly says:

    This is some LJ diaper drama.

    I can’t believe how much the OP flew off the handle in this thread:


  207. Myra says:

    Anyone have any suggestions for cheap covers? Babe outgrew medium Thirsties and don’t want to spend that much again.

  208. sheepthrills says:

    Are we certain that the WAHM DIDN’T contact the OP about the sewing issues before sending it out? I don’t know, something seems funny here and it doesn’t make sense that the WAHM would just this once send out something subpar and hoping to not get ‘caught’. Based on the time/material constraints mentioned here’s how I’ve been imagining it:
    OP: ZOMG found this great fabric, need a bday skirt STAT!
    WAHM: Er, ok. Send me the fabric and I’ll get started.
    WAHM: –waits and waits for the fabric–
    Fabric finally arrives giving WAHM like one day to make skirt and get it back in the mail.
    WAHM: The fabric only just got here today AND you didn’t get enough of it. I can still make a skirt but it’s not going to be perfect by any means. Are you SURE you want this?
    OP: Yes yes squeeee that’s ok gotta have it for the bday!
    WAHM: *against better judgment* Well ok I’ll do it, and I’ll make you a deal and only charge you $7 cause I know it won’t be my best work.
    OP: *thinking she got the deal of the century* Skirt arrived OH NOES it’s not perfect, bday ruiinnned oh teh anguish!! Everyone’s gonna laugh at me!

    Anyway I could be way off but I just can’t believe the WAHM would have sent that skirt out unless there was some good reason for that sewing job (which she does hint at) AND communication. It’s not like we can depend on the OP to tell us the truth about whether she was told about it or not, she’s already proven she likes to withhold important little details like that! As of now I’d still totally do business with the WAHM, myself.

  209. JustPeachy says:

    Bummis pull on covers. They cost like 5 bucks a pop.

  210. FunnyMama says:

    213 – that’s some drama-liciousness!! What a potty mouth that OP has.

  211. Myra says:

    Thanks, Peach!

  212. JustPeachy says:

    YW. I have some to use in a pinch and I love them. They are a bit puffy but for 5 bucks a piece you can’t beat that price.

  213. Lurker says:

    215-Good point.

  214. ellemnopee says:

    If she did contact the buyer before she made and sent it, then she did everything she could. I didn’t see any place where the WAHM said she contacted her before, just where she said she was rushed, didn’t have enough material, that it ended up coming out poorly, and then she mailed it anyway. From what she posted it seemed to me that she was just hoping that the buyer wouldn’t notice the flaws and complain. And 215, I agree we really can’t believe anything that the buyer is saying at this point.

  215. not me at all says:

    the Kawaii OS covers are nice and less than 5 bucks.

  216. not me at all says:

    so FB was sooooooooooooooo excited about her DH coming home that she sits all day posting?

  217. Myself says:

    The second thread will go poof first, because the OP asks for it to be deleted

  218. just_sayin says:

    I think the bike helmet one will go first. She’s being a bitch. I think that any minute she will change the title to PLEASE DELETE!!!

  219. smartassmama says:

    Bike Helmet.
    She’s being a twat for twat’s sake, imo.
    It’s like, “Hi I have a question, but I don’t want you to answer it, because there isn’t a right answer. And I certainly don’t want to hear the opinions that I asked for either. I’m just going to begrudgingly do whatever my friend tells me to do, because she knows everything. *fingers in ears*

    And that other one is just like how I said I’d never let my child be vocal in Walmart. Now she happily (at a respectable volume) barks in Walmart. She’s not screaming or crying. It’s the whole, “I knew everything there was to know about parenting. Then I became one,” deal. She knows everything about toddlers, even though she doesn’t own any.

  220. FunnyMama says:

    LOLz@doesn’t own any!!!

    re: helmet lady: she needs to quit twatwaffling. Her child cannot be the ONLY child in the world that has a wacky head shape that won’t fit into a helmet.

  221. smartassmama says:

    Everytime I see something about teenagers, I have to refrain myself from, “I can only answer with my opinion, as I don’t own any teenagers right now,” but ya know. Teens are hard to own. They run off and learn to drive and junk. Egh. I dread upgrading someday. 😦 I know a few, and I wouldn’t want to own those models.

  222. roobug says:

    215 I completly agree – sending out something that poorly sewn for a brithday outfit with out contacting the buyer is poor CS no matter what she had done after the fact to make it right.

  223. magpiedpiper says:

    What kind of shape does her daughter have exactly? A triangle? Geez.

  224. Myself says:

    Maybe it is a square? Or a crescent?

  225. smartassmama says:

    They make helmets for different sizes/shapes. I had 8th grade science with a sweet kid who had to wear one. And his was special made.

    And I the only one who has a hard time not spelling it “helment”?

  226. melmelly says:

    Uh, here’s a thought. Buy a bigger helmet! If the bigger helmet is too big, but the next size down is too small, they do sell the extra padding pieces that can go in. It’s not that hard. geesh. /sarcasm

  227. melmelly says:

    232- I kept wanting to say “helbent” (proper sp. is hell-bent) because she appears to be hell-bent on what she wants to hear.

  228. smartassmama says:

    The way I see it, if a kid’s feet were shaped funny, you wouldn’t let the kid go to school barefoot. You’d get the smallest size that did fit comfortably.
    A friend has two different sized feet. Like, one’s an 11 and the other’s an 8. He just wears 11s, and deals with one being too big.

  229. smartassmama says:

    234 – true, true. Or hell-bent on what she doesn’t want to hear. I’m still not sure just which answer she was going for.

  230. melmelly says:

    She probably doesn’t even know which answer she wants. She is probably hoping someone gives her the answers, but she doesn’t want to admit that.

  231. ~*~Momma~*~ says:

    To the momma looking for cheap covers, I dont have covers, but i have 2 kawaii pockets you could use as a cover you can have FFS if you want them

  232. memyselfandi says:

    lailasmommy created two accounts and left fb for herself on both, pretending to trade with jessykam(also her account). she got busted posted in a co-op, posted with the wrong account saying she was dropping(I think she suspected she was going to get banned), said she’d take her own spot, but used her other jessy acct…guess she forgot which acct she was logged in under.

    anyways, who is the wahm who made the item in the OP? I know it’s deviate, but I never saw and actual store name…unless I missed it.

  233. Myra says:

    Sure, Momma! How do I reach you? I searched the Kawaii covers, but I had a hard time finding anything. It seems like they used to sell on Ebay, but I can’t find anything there.

  234. ~*~Momma~*~ says:

    give me your email addy, i will message you about them πŸ™‚

  235. Myra says:

    Thanks, not me.

    Momma, lvdjr@yahoo.com.

  236. redfish bluefish says:

    Good reads!

    M~I’d still buy from you πŸ™‚ I’m not picky about fraying and such tbh.

    About the covers-I totally didn’t know the Bummi pull on’s were so cheap! Might have to get some. I need a couple covers anyways. Could they be dyed?

    Felitwat-Meh. I expect to see an entry about her bad customer service or something on here, when she starts selling w/e shes making.

    I don’t know anything about Lailasmommy but LOL about how she got her names mixed up.

    Hahahaha about owning teenagers.

  237. redfish bluefish says:

    Also, is this Lailasmommy?



  238. Myself says:

    Yeah, who in the world would buy from FB? I mean seriously, she has had her sewing machine for what, two weeks? maybe a month?

  239. try me, i'm new! says:

    one cannot understand toddlers until one has one. hell, I didn’t even REALLY understand them until v2.0 started telling me NO and running away to go drink out of the dog bowl in the 2 seconds it takes me to catch her wicked self. apparently v1.0 was an anomaly.

    I SO can’t wait for her “ZOMG, this little demon won’t listen to a word I saaayyyyyyyyyy” post in, oh, about 6 months.

  240. monkey says:


    Amen. I grew up with a brother 12 years younger than myself, worked in a nursery, worked as a nanny and STILL wasn’t prepared for my own toddler!

  241. kelolsen says:

    #214 – when Lucas outgrew mediums but didn’t fit in larges, I f ound that Medium MOtherese covers fit him- they are bigger than most mediums but not as big as larges. Motherease also has a m/l size too.

  242. MotherMoonPads says:

    #248, lol! My son’s (2.5) favorite place to drink from is the dog bowl too.

    I’ve HAD a toddler, but my girl was nothing like this child. It certainly has been interesting to say the least πŸ™‚

  243. JustPeachy says:

    I’ve had 3 toddlers and lets just say each one is different in their own respect. My oldest was the quiet serious type and never got into anything. Then came Kaylen who was hell on 2 short lil legs. That girl would get into anything and everything and well she still does and shes almost 8. Saedras a well balanced combo of the 2 but thankfully doesn’t get into nearly as much trouble as Kaylen did.
    And I do think bummis are dyeable since they are nylon covers.

  244. rainbow says:

    At least the mama on the potty training thread came back on and apologized without deleting her original post. Now there are some big girl panties!

    And I’m with Peach – for inexpensive covers, Bummis pull-ons rock. They’re so trim under clothes.

  245. Incognizable says:

    FYI: There’s a co-op interest thread on CDN re: Zippered Snack Sacks. By the mama that Kelly recommended :loveshower:

  246. JustPeachy says:

    I give it 5 minutes

  247. Aj says:

    I want to know what her “strong religious views, that are not Christian” are:

  248. ~*~Momma~*~ says:

    maybe mormon or lds?

  249. just_sayin says:

    Mormons are Christian because they believe in Christ. At least they consider themselves Christian, so a mormon wouldn’t say they are not Christian. Maybe she’s Pagan or Wiccan, or Buddhist, or Hindu, or Mystical Taoist, Jewish or Muslim. There’s zillions of religions.

  250. smartassmama says:

    I wondered on that one too.

    That thread’s likely to go to hell in a handbasket though.

    Probably a dumb question, but would a Mormon or LDS not identify themselves as Christian at all? We don’t really have an assortment of religion where I’m from, just different denominations. I was under the impression that it was just a different (very different) denomination of Christianity?

  251. Myra says:

    #254 Who makes those? I’m not eligible for a coop but would like to get some.

  252. ~*~Momma~*~ says:

    sorry, missed that it said not chirstian, i read it as not catholic. Oops!

  253. ~*~Momma~*~ says:

    and now i cant type!

  254. smartassmama says:

    What is Title 19??

    Is that the poster that has that blog that I read about on here?

  255. peacefulmommy says:

    leaving lurking status for a moment… LDS or Mormon is short for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Yes, they are Christian and would never consider themselves not to be. For a variety of reasons some denoms don’t consider them Christian, though. They use the Bible and Book of Mormon in tandem.

  256. ~*~Momma~*~ says:


    what does she want to test? anyone know?

  257. Myself says:

    I’m ASSuming it is disability but I could be wrong

  258. FunnyMama says:

    I think she’s testing waterproof shoe covers.

  259. Aj says:

    267 :rotfl:

  260. FunnyMama says:

    she’s just asking for a whole heap of trouble – nothing good can come of her WAHMishness

  261. smartassmama says:

    She had a blog about making a pattern of something-or-another.

    She posted a thread last night that got a tad dramariffic. I will give her credit on it not being her fault, and for staying out of it. She actually ignored someone. :O

    But before I knew the subject content seeing the title “penis issues” with her name under it made me chuckle. But the problem was something someone else said and did a takesy-backsy on.

    She did say that she loves her husband’s penis. wtf. That is just weird to see in print. I don’t love a penis, and I’ve been married to it for 5 years. I love the man attached to it.

  262. ~*~Momma~*~ says:


  263. FunnyMama says:

    :massive eyeroll: @ “I love my husband’s penis” I still don’t understand how SHE doesn’t understand that everything she puts out on the internet is there forever (almost)

  264. Aj says:

    I’m not a Felishuu fan, but I really don’t see anything wrong with admitting you love your husband’s penis. I don’t know that I would post it on DS….

  265. smartassmama says:

    Ok. I’ll admit. I’d love it if my husband’s penis would do dishes and laundry! At least it’s own laundry. . .

  266. FunnyMama says:

    that’s the point I was trying to make. There are certain, sacred things that have a context in which they belong

  267. Myself says:

    I don’t love my husband’s penis. Not in the least. (Well maybe for the fact that it gave me five children)

    But the man attached to it, does do some dishes and laundry, lol.

  268. redfish bluefish says:

    #274-ROFL!! Funny visual LOL

  269. smartassmama says:

    p.s. – if you haven’t been back to the thread, it did get ugly.

  270. smartassmama says:

    You should YouTube Rodney Carrington for a visual. In his live stand-up he sings “Dear Penis” and two great big inflatable cock-n-balls grace the stage. Awesome!

  271. MotherMoonPads says:

    Is DS down?

  272. Aj says:

    It’s not for me.

  273. smartassmama says:

    nope. Not for me either

  274. kukukachoo says:

    280. with O.P.P.?

  275. Madre says:

    yeah you know me

  276. zookeeper says:

    Long time lurker

    #260 As a “Mormon” I would NEVER say that I wasn’t Christian. I believe in Christ. From what I understand, other Christian religions apparently don’t like that we believe the God head to be 3 separate beings, among other things. Apparently because we believe Christ, God and The Holy Spirit are not one in the same, it makes us “not Christian” .

    As for loving my DH’s penis, it is good for at least one thing I can think of, LOL!!!

    Now, back to reading the drama and lurking. I must say, that I do enjoy this blog. *hiding head in shame* LOL!!!

  277. not me at all says:

    ok DS mama Nini02 I blame YOU for the DR. Pepper on my computer screen.

  278. Myra says:

    283. Yeah, you know me.

    and just…wow to one who said college is a load of crap. Wow.

  279. Aj says:

    286, was that kalidescope eyes? She’s a weirdo anyways and a borderline troll. It seems as though she had been gone for a while, I wonder what brought her back?

  280. Myra says:

    Yes…wowza. Whoever Kaci is (I think) had a good response to her.

  281. piratebaby says:

    Where do people get the idea that our fore-mothers never worked outside the home??? I know for a fact that my grandmother worked her whole life, except when she was very very pg. Women would work in factories, in fields, as house servants, as secretaries, etc. I just cannot stand it when people say that life was oh so good for women 50 or 100 yrs ago because they got to stay home and everything was peachy keen!

    And what about all the women that were abandoned by their husbands or whose husbands drank their money away?? Or, *gasp* were unwed mothers?? Sheesh. I would respond to the thread, but I’m just a lurker/buyer on ds now and don’t want to be called a troll.

  282. mylilgirls says:

    Yeah, I’m not even touching that thread with a 10 ft pole. Not only do I not want to read a bazillion pages, but I just don’t want to get into it with anyone over that stuff.

  283. Aj says:

    I actually think it’s stayed quite tame for the most part.

  284. altaem says:

    292 – couldn’t agree more…

  285. Myra says:

    Both my grandmas worked. If we’re thinking of the same post, it’s the one that almost brought me out of lurkerdom.

  286. FunnyMama says:

    I like Kaci – that was the mama with whom I agreed was a bitch and got a strike (in all fairness, she said it first and I misunderstood)

  287. werd says:

    I laugh at the idea that staying at home with the kids while my husband works 10 hours a day is a LUXURY. HAH! Luxurious, it certainly is not!

  288. smartassmama says:

    Luxurious would be if my kids wiped their own asses, DH did all the work, all day, while I laid on the couch eating Doritos and Beef Jerky, only taking breaks to BF or find another TV show. And leaving the house. To go to the mall. Alone. And getting to try stuff on.

    Think Peggy Bundy, but with money.

  289. Aj says:

    I don’t think anyone implied that the daily activities performed as a SAHM are luxurious, just that the act of being home instead of working is a privledge not a necessity.

  290. monkey says:


    I can honestly say she is one of the very few people I absolutely HATE on DS. I’ve hated her since she got really nasty with me over saying I was going to teach my DS to say please. According to her it’s pathetic begging to say please.

  291. piratebaby says:

    Yeah, I don’t consider it a luxury and I don’t think dh ‘sacrifices’ for me to stay home. He gets to go to work and not worry about anything but his job. He knows that I’m there to run kids back and forth to school, pick them up if they’re sick, take them to appts, etc. And if he gets a day off or gets out early, we drop the kids at school and have a date! He has had to council several of his troops bc they are constantly leaving work to go get their kid from daycare or having to stay home with them until they are well for 24 hrs. After childcare and other expenses, it just would not be worth it for me to work. For us it’s more of a convenience thing to have one parent at home, we live within our means and have never received assistance.

  292. Aj says:

    300, I remember that thread! Her ideas of how the world works are laughable at the least.

  293. smartassmama says:

    It grew 4 more pages while I was gone to town (and I have 40 posts/page).

  294. smartassmama says:

    I think it was Outnumbered who said that school was not needed/a stupid thing to spend money on without knowing in advance. . .

  295. werd says:

    I dunno, I just really don’t think of it as a privilege. Its my job, just like DH goes to work and does his… except I don’t get paid, and he doesn’t have to pay someone else to watch his kids.

    I really think that some parents who work outside of the home and whom have never stayed home with their kids, have this idea that those of us who choose to stay home and this really easy time of it or something. To me, its a job like any other.

    Granted, my DH makes enough for me to easily stay home with the chilrens, but that wasn’t always the case. And there are lots of days where I *wish* I could work outside of the home without the kids. But its not sensible to work just to pay for daycare.

    And I hate the judgements that fly on that forum. DS has some very high and mighty mamas on there and its disgusting!

    ***Here is my disclaimer because this is a hot issue- I said some, not all. This is solely my opinion and you have every right to disagree. I’ve worked out of the home (but brought my kids) and stayed at home and now I work in the home so these are opinions based on my personal experience alone. I’m not judging anyone, I’m not looking to get into a fight as I’ve filled my quota for the week. Kthanxbai***

  296. smartassmama says:

    Yeah. I’m a new member at CDN and so far, I haven’t seen the holier than thou that I’ve seen at DS. I’m trying to just not even use DS, but I’ve got a forum w/ a small group of regulars that I like there. I was doing good too, until a link got posted! lol

    Right now I’m on page 9. And I’ll tell the truth – I’m not even reading it all anymore. I’m reading F’s silly military views.

  297. Aj says:

    I guess for me, I think it’s a privledge because if we couldn’t afford it, I would work. Not everyone agrees with me on that, so I think that is why this debate gets heated.

    I know I could never willingly depend on the government for assistance just so I could stay at home.

    If someone needs help from the government because they genuinely can’t make ends meet and there are extenuating circumstances…great, that’s why there are programs in place. But if you are living off the tax payers just so you don’t have to work, then there is something wrong.

  298. piratebaby says:

    Fluffyass is so full of it. The Army is always hiring, yeah some jobs are over manned, but they will find somewhere to put you. And her ex bf worked his way through college working at McD’s, with no loans or grants at all?? I guess she only dates geniuses, though I have a hard time figuring out.

  299. piratebaby says:

    *what they see in her.

    …toddler fingers are ‘helping’

  300. Myra says:

    289 – LMAO. Love it.

    304 – kaleideoscope eyes said that unless her kids were planning to specialize in something, she would discourage them from going to college. Ok, I get college is not for everyone, I really do, but to say you plan to discourage your kids from going because it’s a load of crap…that kind of thinking is beyond me.

    There are some real crazies on both sides of that argument.

  301. Myra says:

    308 – I could see the ex doing that if it was a community college, but she claims it’s a good school. What the hell is she doing posting anyway?? Isn’t her dh home?

  302. not me at all says:

    she has been posting all day

  303. werd says:

    Man, if my DH had been gone for months and then was home for a few weeks, I’d pack away the laptop and spend every waking moment up his butt!

    As it is, my BIL is coming home from deployment to Iraq for his R&R in 2 weeks and we will be up HIS butt, LOL. He deployed a week and a half before Xander was born so he’s never met him, I can’t wait!!!

  304. werd says:

    AJ, I see where you are coming from!

  305. Aj says:

    Yay, fluffy hugs for you werd πŸ™‚

  306. nu says:

    I must have missed the thread about colleges?

    I would NEVER discourage my children from education. It’s the one thing that can’t be taken from you. Heck, my son is only 10 and we talk about colleges. He wants to be a vet or an engineer. He has Cornell in mind and a college in NC (not Duke—he doesn’t like the sports team…LOL).

    We encourage him now, telling him he can do whatever he wants to do—he has so many options to him.

    I’m off….going to watch American Idol…although the girl that’s on isn’t doing that great….

  307. smartassmama says:

    Yea. I’ve not ‘dug’ anyone on there yet.

  308. naturalmamadot says:

    what a random email she has haha

  309. Aj says:

    The assistance thread got closed??? I’m baffled, it stayed really calm in my opinion. I was quite enjoying the debate.

  310. DSDM2 says:

    Fluffy’s comments in that thread are beyond idiotic. Just amazingly stupid.

  311. Aj says:

    It’s back open now.

  312. JustPeachy says:

    Ok now opinions are like assholes so remember this is mine. I’ve been a SAHM for 3 almost 4 years now. Dhs income alone affords me that luxury (and I say luxury cus Id rather be home with my kiddos and take care of the house then work my ass of for 8.00 bucks an hour to just barely afford day care). We have had instances where we needed assistance temporarily like when he was laid off for 6 months on and off. However during that time on assistance I looked for work.

  313. Aj says:

    She needs to find a hole to crawl into. Why is it that drama whores can only stay quiet for so long…

  314. FunnyMama says:

    dude, it’s PRESCHOOL, not a petting zoo. Of course two adults will have a hard time reigning in 25 kiddos. My husband and I have to tag-team my 2-year-old and he’s pretty tame.

  315. angelique says:

    325. what thread was that in?

  316. tlouise says:

    I don’t care about people using government assistance to SAHM. What gets me though is the TTC threads (or even threads indicating that they were “not trying/not preventing”), and the poster thinks they’re pregnant, but doesn’t have the money to buy a pregnancy test.
    It’s one thing to have a ‘surprise’, but why would you TTC if you don’t even have $10 for a test?

  317. Myra says:

    She is an idiot, Aj. She would be so shocked to know that some working moms DO know what they’re kids are doing all day. She seems to think that by the mere act of staying home with her kids, she has secured her place in the Mother Hall of Fame, and her children will forever bow at her feet in gratitude. She’s really teaching her children kindness and tolerance by saying that.

  318. JustPeachy says:

    #328 Not even 10 bucks but a dollar. I got my BFP on a dollar tree test the day before AF was due. Not only that you can buy them for under .50 cents a strip in co-ops or on various pregnancy test strip sites.

  319. Myra says:

    Ohhhh, I just saw her post about “Hitler WOHM’s”. Mods, prepare to give me a strike.

  320. DSDM2 says:

    328.) That is what the $1 test at dollar tree are for.

  321. FunnyMama says:

    I imagine that it’s just as hard to be a WOHM as it is to be a WAHM or SAHM, all hard in their own different ways. I also remember a time where it was unheard of to discuss your income or if – heavens forbid – you received any kind of assistance from the government. Maybe it’s just my family, but we never had those conversations with my parents or anyone else. We got food stamps when I was very young even though both of my parents had jobs and I didn’t find out about it until last weekend, almost 30 years later.

  322. mylilgirls says:

    That chick that started the potty training thread about kids needing to be pl’ed by age 2 is really starting to tick me off. She made a comment in the ‘How old is too old for pacis?’ thread and she comes off as such a know-it-all parent. IDK, she just rubs me the wrong way.


  323. smartassmama says:

    I hope her baby Einstein finds a paci and sucks it until kindergarten. No. Worse! I hope he sucks his thumb until 3rd grade. You can’t take away a thumb, Mrs. Cleaver.

  324. magpiedpiper says:

    There are times when I am doing the umpteenth loads of laundry and dishes for the week that I wonder just how WOHMs do it, and think they must be super moms! lol

    There are perks and downsides to being a SAHM and being a WOHM. And everyone needs to weigh those for themselves and find the best solution for their situation, do it, and not rub whichever one it is in other people’s faces.

  325. Myra says:

    336 – spoken like a reasonable person.

  326. werd says:

    336 for realz! I’ve been on both sides of the fence and both have their drawbacks and bonuses! There was a time when I was working full time at my dad’s business, while my mom watched my daughter. She was little little at the time and I was EXHAUSTED all the time… but I still at least was able to take her with me and see her all day. Then I was a SAHM and that too is exhausting, and don’t even get me started on being a WAHM! lol

    I used to work at a certified in-home daycare and not ONE of those working mamas didn’t call at least half way through the day to see how things were going – every day! So that was a real asshole comment to imply that working mom’s don’t know what is going on with their kids during the day!!!

  327. Myra says:

    No doubt, werd. I call my mil every day. I send over exactly what they are to eat, wear, poop in, etc. She keeps a notebook of what they do all day, when they nap and eat, what they play with, etc. I don’t ever work over time, and I take off any time they are sick. We don’t take vacations so that we can take days off periodically just to spend with them. Is it the same as being home with them? No, of course not. I know that. Would I still work if my mil couldn’t watch them? I don’t know. But our situation, as it is right now, works for us. It’s like the bitch can’t fathom any set of circumstances besides her own. I guess a small mind will do that to you.

  328. Munklettes says:

    to 325 – Mary is a fucking nutjob!

  329. Munklettes says:

    Hey, lailasmommy is a known scammer, right? She got banned for too many negs on DS, but she’s still posting away on CDN?

  330. Munklettes says:


  331. piratebaby says:

    I have to give props to all the WOHMs out there. I don’t know how you all manage to take care of fussy babies all night, then get up and go to work all day! I’m up all night with my kids, but I usually manage to get at least a short nap with the baby in during the day.

    And yeah, her kid will probably be the one sucking on a blanket or some such crap when he starts kindy. That karma thing, bitch about how other ppl raise their kids and your kids will pay you back in spades! I have an almost 6 yo that still sucks her thumb, not in public and pretty much only when she’s super tired, maybe I should cut it off?? And a 9 yo that still regularly wets the bed. Guess I’m a failure as a mom *sigh*

  332. thismelrocks says:

    RE: 341- CDN asked for info on her. I’m sure a Hot Seat thread will be opened once there is enough info.

  333. JustPeachy says:

    Ugh the paci thing gets me. Saedra is almost 3 and still takes a paci. Its a comfort thing for her and while I am definitely gonna start cutting down the paci usage soon wtf is it to her if my child or anyone elses child takes apaci til they are in fucking college?

  334. Aj says:

    Has anyone seen Kalidescope Eyes new siggy? It says, “My ignore list keeps getting bigger and bigger” I guess us mean mommies who asked her to back up her statement with concrete numbers were too mean for her. Boo fucking hoo.

  335. Aj says:

    Peach, my 3 almost 4 year old still uses a paci at night. It used to bother me a lot, but now I really don’t care. It is super important to her, and I don’t want to give her unwarranted guilt about something so trivial. So what, she’ll have to get braces? Good, her teeth will be straight.

  336. Munklettes says:

    thank you, 344! I was just concerned after I saw her post another new thread in fluffy chat this morning.

  337. Taterbug says:

    #346- I’ll bet the list of people who are ignoring her is still longer than the list of people that she is ignoring.

  338. smartassmama says:

    she posted a pic of herself that looks either totally old, or fake?

  339. mylilgirls says:

    What is it with this poster?!?!?!?!? She’s started all these really heavy debatable threads in like 2 days.


  340. smartassmama says:


  341. FunnyMama says:

    kaleidoscope’s myspace page hurts my eyes, that dirty-hippie wannabe, troublemaking douche nozzle

    FYI: Hippies don’t usually eat low-carb cheesecake

  342. Myra says:

    353- It’s Fluffy’s long lost sister!

  343. FunnyMama says:

    twinz… separated at birth! It’s like that Bette Midler/Lily TOmlin movie…

  344. sheepthrills says:

    So that pkg I’ve been waiting on since 1/6?? Still waiting. Apparently it showed back up on her doorstep 1.5 weeks ago…in a different box than she’d sent it in, with stamps from all over the country, and several pieces missing. She said she’d remake them (they’re very small) and ship priority this time. They were supposed to go out last Tues. so now it’s been over a week again. She’s not been back online or responded to 2 messages from me asking for the DC. I’ve pretty much got a constant twitch at this point, wondering if that stuff is EVER going arrive or if I’m getting scammed. *sigh*

  345. FunnyMama says:

    oy vey – I’m only 5 pages into that hot mess on CDN that emy lou started about the world ending and fat girls getting seatbelt tickets and which-not what witch where and I’m already getting hot flashes and dizzy spells from the stupidz this chick is laying out there

  346. FunnyMama says:

    356 – I bet 4 Goldfish and a quarter of a PB&J that you god scammed, and I’m really sorry

  347. FunnyMama says:

    got, sorry

  348. ~*~Momma~*~ says:

    link to the fat girl thread?

  349. FunnyMama says:

    get your International Coffee ready, it’s 42 pages of fun-filled nonsense


  350. mylilgirls says:

    I just popped over there and saw she was banned. Then went to read out of curiosity and LMAO at the world going into kayos. What’s that, page 2???

  351. FunnyMama says:

    kayos is early on, sets the tone for the next 3749502 pages. I needed a good laugh today, broke up the monotony of a rainy, cold Wednesday

  352. ~*~Momma~*~ says:

    thanks, lol!

  353. smartassmama says:

    No! I don’t want to read that much! Don’t make me!

    Ugh. I’m going to. Because I’m a glutton for punishment like that. But she brings her therd graed typingg skillses to the car seat forum at DS a lot (even though she reads very ignorant) and she annoys me. So I’ll read it for a reason to dislike her.

  354. FunnyMama says:

    ooooh, she’s on DS? suh-weet!

  355. FunnyMama says:

    okay, it seems to slow down after page 18

  356. FunnyMama says:

    yeah, picks back up on p 23

  357. smartassmama says:

    Before I forget, and I’m sure it probably gets worse, post 22 looks like she just threw darts at a dictionary. ~Incomprhendable is are well words she that is typing ~

    on ds her avatar is/was a picture if her in the car.

    And I don’t know the situation, but no one would take my child to the doctor for shots. Even if we did vax, it would be either me or my husband. I know her DSD’s mom & dad are not together, but she’s intrusted with the life of the girl’s mom’s child. You needs to learn 2 readz.

  358. smartassmama says:

    Before I forget, and I’m sure it probably gets worse, post 22 looks like she just threw darts at a dictionary. ~Incomprhendable is are well words she that is typing ~

    on ds her avatar is/was a picture if her in the car.

    And I don’t know the situation, but no one would take my child to the doctor for shots. Even if we did vax, it would be either me or my husband. I know her DSD’s mom & dad are not together, but she’s intrusted with the life of the girl’s mom’s child. You needs to learn 2 readz.

  359. FunnyMama says:

    I was wondering about the avatar pic

  360. Lori says:


    Because with alllllllll the other stuff going on, yes, you need to TTC.

  361. smartassmama says:

    I don’t frequent TTC, so I’d totally look like I was following her, but part of me wants to tell her something totally erroneous.

    And her dumbH gave her the ok to ttc. *scratch head*. That’s strange. I kinda figured he could just opt out/in without a verbal go ahead? It sounds almost like “he gave me the go ahead to go find some sperm at the grocery.”

    Now back to that thar darn trane reck.

  362. Sala says:

    Well, you know that she’s so much more organized and together than all of us together that surely she can order up a girl, I mean get pregnant exactly when she wants to AND find the time to troll the boards AND take better care of her kid than we do ours AND become the best damned WAHM ever. We’re just jealous. Am I wrong?

  363. nu says:

    Hitler WOHM—is that ond DS? I in no way think my job is harder than a SAHM. Would I like to be a SAHM, yet. I make the $$$. DH is part time SAHD. It’s not easy, but it’s what we find works.

    I am also very fortunate that my dh does help around the house. He is super great with our boys—always has been–very hands on dad.

    I wouldn’t be able to be WOHM without his support.

    Fat chicks and seatbelts…ok I did read that last night…but I just couldn’t get into it w/her. I don’t understand how she didn’t know what vax the child was getting.

  364. nu says:

    Got my second strike for that damm thread on DS about the topic of this blog post.

    I did ask if it is policy to get warnings first before strikes. I’ve only been given strikes and never a warning.

    I also said that I my emotions got the best of me….as a cousin’s 2yo is in the hospital stage 4 brain cancer and on chemo. So, yeah….the mom was picky-in my opinion.

    Why is that others can post things that seem a lot meaner and still hang out that place?? (I did ask that also)

    This really pisses me off—and for those that know me…I’m not usually one to be mean….but come on…fluffybutt rights some awfully rude things.

    Good thing I like CDN—I didn’t even know about the stirke until today….when I did post on that thread??? days ago!

  365. FunnyMama says:

    TTC??? WTF???????????????? (I know the question marks are overkill, but it’s the only punctuation mark that relates how I feel about this.)

  366. JustPeachy says:

    Why in the hell does she want another baby already? Her sons just 7 months old. Enjoy him being a baby before you go crank another one out.

  367. Mystery says:

    You know what I find interesting? That when you google “lmgittings” like this:

    That only 4 pictures pop up. The first image is from a blog CDMP is a friend/connected with. The other 3 are specific screen names here “Curious”, “Lurker”, and “The Drama Mama”.

    Even more neat is that Google images works differently than google web. What you search for in images searches everything, even emails with that keyword entered. It’s more specific in search than Google web.

    So I am going to guess the only way for lmgittings to be matched to those specific screen names, and ironically none of her others, is if her name is somehow in the registration of those names?


  368. I agree #215

    The skirt sucked, but after seeing your comment, I agree something could definately be missing from the story.

  369. Myself says:

    378 – my first four were all around 18 months apart and the fourth and fifth were 24 months. The 24 month was by far harder on me and the children than the 18 months.

    Not saying that is why she wants to but it might be.

    This time even though I’d love another, I know I can’t handle one and instead I’m going to work on getting healthier ’cause it gives me something to do.

  370. DSDM2 says:

    Lurker, Curious, TDM, and CDMP do not have the same IPs. If those people discussed her, they would come up in google images. Just like f you search me, I come up as some of them: http://tiny.cc/bnSqu

  371. JustPeachy says:


  372. JustPeachy says:

    Dammit hit enter too soon
    381 totally did not mean to judge. My first two are 13 months apart and that was hell on me physically. I really truly do not feel at this time just based on the things she has said, that she is ready for another one.

  373. Myself says:

    I didn’t take offense at all.

    It was our decision at the time, and if I knew what I know now I probably would change something. That’s the nature of the beast.

    :hugs: The 24 month apart was hell on me physically, no idea why.

  374. ~*~Momma~*~ says:

    Not defending Felisha, but the 13th month age gap was so much easier than the larger age gaps for me

  375. JustPeachy says:

    How old are your two that are 13 months apart? Mine are 8 and 9 and all they do is fight and bicker.
    BTW if you google me from the blog heres what u get so I believe DSDM2 on CDMP not being her

  376. monkey says:

    I just had my first run in with Felisha.

    Have any of you ever heard of an IUD costing $1400? Seriously? I did some research, they’re usually between $175 and $650.

  377. Aj says:

    Ugh, it really takes a special person in cyberworld to get me worked up, but this is ignorance:
    Really, a child with a pacifier is gross? I couldn’t not respond–I’m shaking right now.

  378. JustPeachy says:

    Dude wtf ever. My child is not gross. She is just overly attached to the pacifier. Grow the fuck up you stupid cunt!

  379. DSDM2 says:

    Most states have family planning medicaid to pay for birthcontrol. You can make a large amount over poverty to qualify, it is the same income recs as pregnancy medicaid.

  380. naturalmamadot says:

    I think suckys are cute, its not a huge issue for me…so they might need braces yea it might not be perfect but its not nearly as important as all the issues I hold dear to me. Those can mean lifelong health problems, death, emotional or physical abuse. Not crooked teeth. I feel the same way about a bottle of water. Who effing cares lol

  381. naturalmamadot says:

    Want to add, I feel forced weaning of any sort is a bad thing so why would forcing a 2 yr old to wean from the breast be different to me than a 2 yr old who has already self weaned but still wants the paci…nothing other than the teeth/jaw thing. Again, its not going to be physically harming them or giving them lifelong problems so pick a mommy war worth fighting lol.

  382. DSDM2 says:

    My kids are all paci babies. :p What an idiot.

  383. Aj says:

    I honestly can respect someone because they don’t believe a paci should be used after a certain age for their kids–that’s fine. But when insults start flying, that crosses the line. Especially insults about children–what is wrong with people?!?

  384. Myself says:

    All I have to stay on the matter is that my almost six year old is a finger sucker and if he can’t break the habit soon, he will have to have a device put in the top of his mouth to help his teeth because it is changing his jaw structure.

    But, all we do is tell them they can only suck their fingers/thumb when it is bed time.

  385. naturalmamadot says:

    Myself- the jaw development is the ONE thing I worried about for my own kids, but I figure parents can deal with that when/if it comes up.

  386. Aj says:

    396: Honestly, what more can you do? To me, it’s not worth the fight. I’m too afraid I’ll damage her emotionally by taking it away, that’s how upset she gets. And it’s not her trying to “play” us, she gets genuinely upset, almost panicky. As trivial as it sounds, it’s really important to her. I don’t know why, but that’s okay.

    I think the bedtime rule is definitely fair. And really, how many kids now a days aren’t going to have some sort of orthodontic care?

  387. magpiedpiper says:

    I admit that as dumb as it is, there are times where I feel a little envious of those with kids who use a paci/thumb/blanky etc. I can’t get my kid to attach to anything despite trying multiple methods (including walking around with a lovey hanging out of my bra for days on end) and it is frustrating as all get out sometimes trying to get her to self soothe when she also doesn’t want me.

    le sigh

  388. JustPeachy says:

    398 thats the point we are at. I have had to fight her just to get her to take it out of her mouth so she can talk.

  389. monkey says:


    I know what you’re saying. DS has NEVER had a lovey/binky anything that he was super attached to. And sometimes it would make things a little easier if he had a comfort item that wasn’t me, daddy or a 70 lb. dog. I can’t exactly fit the dog in my purse, you know?

  390. Aj says:


    You just need a bigger bag πŸ˜‰

    My oldest never had a comfort item, but now at 7 years old, her bed has so many webkinz, I dont’ know how she fits! πŸ™‚

  391. Myself says:

    397 + 398 – ALL my children have to have braces so I’m not going to worry. The child that this is concerning does it in his sleep and isn’t conscience of it at all so nothing can be done. He sucks so hard his fingers get teeth mark.

    Oh and they will most likely all need glasses and all need their wisdom teeth removed! My poor children.

  392. eeek says:

    who know n e more… ask jesus the gardener, he’ll know!

    –the best line from that emy lou on CDN’s endless troll thread. Though I’ll admit I only got through about 1/4 of the whole thing…. WTF, man, WTF.

  393. FunnyMama says:

    $1400??????? Maybe 1400 yen :massive eyeroll: I signed up for a research study for a free 3-yr version of Mirena and not only did I get the advice for free, I got 2 office visits and one pap a month while I was a part of the study. It totally effed with my hormones so I had it removed (once again, for free) 10 months later.

  394. FunnyMama says:

    device, not advice. Yay preggo brain.

  395. piratebaby says:

    oh good grief! Tricare (military insurance) covers the IUD 100%. She wouldn’t have to pay a dime for it, and she lives close enough to Ft Riley that she could go get it put in, it’s only like a 30 min appt, including wait time! My sister got the IUD and it was only $100 out of pocket, cheaper than 4 mos of her previous bc. Fluffy just likes talking out her ass.

  396. Lori says:

    *shudder* I will never again get a Mirena IUC. It was the worst thing that I’ve ever done!

    Horrid periods, random bleeding, boobs so sore I couldn’t lean on a desk to write on my tests in school without crying, and one surgical removal later – No Thanks!

  397. naturalmamadot says:

    Is the mirena the hormonal one or the copper one…or is there both options?

    Ive been considering the non hormonal version but Id have to pay it all OOP not sure how much doc visit etc will cost

  398. monkey says:


    I can just see him carrying our Doberman/lab mix to the first day of school…

    I guess I could carry around a suitcase…

    My goddaughter is obsessed with the Webkinz as well.

  399. Myra says:

    Nu, some idiot bitch named mary called some of the WOHM’s posting on that thread “Hitler WOHM’s”. Instead of just saying, I believe being home is best for kids, she went on the offensive and insulted WOHM’s and daycare kids. She’s vile.

  400. nu says:

    Myra-thanks for filling me in.

    I know that my situation is typical because I do have my husband who is home during the day. We mad that decision when I was pregnant. It just didn’t make sense to send him to daycare. My dh wasn’t making a lot and most of it would have gone to daycare.

  401. Madre says:

    going back a bit, my 2 are 16 months apart & it sucks sometimes. I love my girls, but I’ll never do 2 under 2 again.

  402. MaeghanAlyson says:

    #408…BTDT feel for you..mine ruptured my uterus
    #409…Don’t get an IUD!! lol

  403. Sala says:

    I know when I looked into the IUD last year, my midwife cautioned me to make sure my insurance would pay for it before I made the appointment because the device and ‘installation’ so to speak would cost approximately $800. Granted, this is high-cost California, but I was looking at $800.

    Should have gotten it then, my old insurance would have paid for it. This year, the new insurance won’t say if they cover anything or not until you’ve had something done – those OT appts? Who knows? We’ll tell you after they’ve been billed. Blood work and labs tests? Who knows? The specialist? Again, who knows. Arrgh!

  404. JustPeachy says:

    #415 I am pretty sure that is illegal. They have to be able to tell you if they cover it or not. I’d try calling and asking to speak to a higher up because thats just absurd.

  405. Sala says:

    #416, we’ve tried. They will NOT say anything about anything over the phone, my husband has asked and asked again. Maybe if we asked to get it in writing. We’ve asked about the OT, for example, to see if it would be covered for our kid. And we finally got them to say it was a valid code (which we knew) and that if it met the right criteria it would be covered. What that criteria are…no idea. Blue cross blue shield is so frustrating. But thanks!

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