Anyone know what WAHM is acting like this?

What should I do…DS WAHM (http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=832005)

Avasmommy 09-11-2009 01:06 PM

What should I do…DS WAHM
I purchased 2 customs from a WAHM on 5/28. She said they would be done within a few weeks. Few weeks came, they weren’t done. Gave me an excuse, said they would be finished the next week. Next week came, no communication. I had to keep contacting her. I asked for a DC number…she said she would *try* to find it. Found it but never gave it to me. Claims the items were lost in the mail. Said she was going to the PO to get it figured out. She said that since it was “lost in the mail” she would make new items and send out by the next friday. 2 fridays went by, I pmed her and asked for the DC number that she said she would provide. She still has no responded to me. I am pissed to say the least. I have been more than patient and I have a feeling she never really sent something out in the first place. :headscratch: She has my money and I have nothing. Meantime I have been checking her posts and she is constanlty posting about all the new things she has made! I am soo mad it’s not even funny. What should I do, what can I do to try and get my money back? Since she has a DS WAHM thread I am assuming I should let ADMIN know of the issue.
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  1. BffMama says:

    oooOOoo…any idea who?

  2. Cubanita says:

    yikes! that sucks!

  3. Hexe says:

    Very patient buyer, I would have filed long time ago. And I would have asked in Extra Fluffy what happened to so and so, has anyone heard of her. I would like to know who the WHAM is.

  4. try me, i'm new! says:

    4 months? I wouldn’t use “patient” to describe that.

  5. ~*~Momma~*~ says:

    4 months? why would you wait 4 months?

  6. Lolanae says:

    If she’s constantly posting new things, then she must frequent Craft Show and Tell.

    I don’t think I could be that patient.

  7. insomniac says:

    I would be pissed.

  8. diudiaole says:

    yeah, I wonder why she waited 4 months!

  9. naturalmamadot says:

    Is this connected with THIS http://www.clothdiapernation.com/vbforums/showthread.php?t=31194 or no? I think that deserves a blog entry as well 😀

    so do others lmao http://www.clothdiapernation.com/vbforums/showpost.php?p=610554&postcount=168

  10. DSDM2 says:

    WTF, why is her HC still open if on DS she claimed she closed it?

  11. DSDM2 says:

    And no one is going to leave negative feedback? If there is no neg. feedback, there is nothing anyone can do.

  12. For Realz says:

    If I were that customer I would be livid. That type of stuff should also annoy other WAHMs because it causes people to be distrustful of WAHMs in general. 😦

  13. For Realz says:

    Excuse me for barfing up my grape jelly sandwich.

  14. Ribbit says:

    I did business with that particular WAHM and I did leave negative feedback on HC. I don’t know why it isn’t showing up…

  15. Rain Cloud says:

    Good Grief!

  16. zosiasmama says:

    I would also love to see a thread here about Serendipitous Creations. Her story is seeming to not add up. The whole, I had trouble around the birth may have happened but she has outstanding transaction from months before. We have a thread at CDN but she has not bothered to respond and has only Pm;d a few of the people whom she has screwed.

  17. The ORIGINAL Just Me says:

    oooooo crap!!! 4 months? Patient is not the word!

  18. melmelly says:

    My dinner time is getting very boring with the lack of drama not going on. Surely there is some going on somewhere.

  19. žába says:

    no kidding mel, it’s a drama drought 😛

  20. soOverit says:

    Someone go stir the pot over in disease land. I need something to read.

  21. Lolanae says:

    The Knitfits dyer is now saying that all the colorways that were supposed to have red but came out pink “Is the way BFL takes color.”

    After she said she’d re-dye them for some folks.

  22. JustPeachy says:

    That is absolute bull shit because I have had colorways on BFL with red in them and they most certainly did not have a pinkish tint

  23. Lolanae says:

    Looking at the pics it wasn’t a pinkish tint, it was pink. Like there wasn’t enough red dye used.

    She also keeps trying to dump the blame on the co-op host.

  24. naturalmamadot says:

    the the co-op host dye it? okay then stfu obviously not her fault the colorways are fucked

  25. JustPeachy says:

    Im going to send her an email letting her know what i think of her “policies”

  26. melmelly says:

    There has to be drama SOMEWHERE!!! I’m bored.

    I do know someone that used to buy a crap ton of GM’s, and even paid close to $200 for one diaper and embellished shirt because it was just like some stuff she did for her wedding. AFIK, her dd never wore them. Crazy waste of money, IMHO considering all that she has lost in the last year.

  27. allisokobx says:

    I would love to see a thread on here about little dasiy designs on HC! (http://hyenacart.com/littledaisydesigns/) She stole my money awhile ago! she’s just now closeing her shop on DS

  28. Aj says:

    #26, that sounds like half of the moms over on TGMF 🙂

  29. newhere says:

    where is this coop?

  30. newhere says:

    never mind, I see it now

  31. melmelly says:

    27-I agree, but I don’t think many have lost a business because if a diaper addiction. The diaper addiction wasn’t 100% the reason for the business loss, but it did play a major role in it.

  32. StickFigureSushi says:

    #16, I had a really awful transaction with Serendipitous Creationz back in Nov/Dec last year. In the end Paypal sided with me and I got a refund finally. I did have to wait a very long time for it, though!

    I feel bad because I didn’t leave feedback. At the time she didn’t have any feedback at all, it was a new shop, and I didn’t want to make it hard for her to recover if she really had made an innocent mistake. Later I found out that other people had been “had” by her and I regretted the feedback thing but it had been too long to go back and leave a negative IMO.

  33. kukukachoo says:

    http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8399894&postcount=26

    off topic here…who thinks she is sooo smoking in that 2nd pic even though she says she quit preconception?

  34. naturalmamadot says:

    haha it does look like shes tryin to keep it out of the picture!

    I have no problems with a mom or dad that smokes, as long s its not in the house, car or area around their kids. Her smoking in his face while hes on the swing, yea not cool.

  35. naturalmamadot says:

    Also, I wonder why in the wedding dress pic the face is blurred? maybe she just found a pic of the dress on someone else lol

  36. Sharpie says:

    #31 I don’t think you are the only one seeing as she had a thing on her storefront about giving what would be her 50th order a little something special and she only had like 10-15 feedback IIRC. I’m guessing about 30 or so customers were screwed over in their transactions and just didn’t want to be mean about it.

    Lesson learned now that no matter there someone is in their WAHM journey a bad transaction is a bad transaction and they need to be told and other customers warned if something fishy is going on.

  37. cdc3030 says:

    Oh, most of my customers dont leave feedback, and I dont think it is because they are unhappy. At least I hope not! I must say, I suck at leaving feedback as a customer (on ebay and such.) So, she might have 50 customers, but only 11 FB’s. FWIW.

  38. naturalmamadot says:

    A few ppl forgetting, Id probably let it slip but THAT many? I would be livid lol

  39. try me, i'm new! says:

    #33 – sure looks like she’s smoking. Looks like creative cropping to hide it. That’s the EXACT pose my friends and I always did to “hide” the cigs in pics – hold it far enough away from yourself so you hope it’s out of the frame.

  40. ladylili says:

    I just find this entire thing funny

    http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=832283

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    Re: Several NIP GMs & 1 LFP & Wetbag
    “Thanks Mama! But as you see I’m new.. all new to CD’ing too and expecting triplets so I’ve just got couple of those to sell to get ones I like on my boys.

    Recently I made my first trade and hopefully this person will post a feed back for me. If not then I don’t know what to do.”

    “oh… so this is all about feedback? nope, no ebay or anything, never have sold a thing except for one trade I made last weekend with a person in GM forum (under this same username) and I just sent out her dipe this morning.

    honestly, I think feedbacks are unfair anyway and in fact it’s fuming me up right now lol. because I am SURE not all of them would leave you a feedback or someone could just add another username and post feedback on her/his original username to make it look good KWIM? & like me now, I won’t ever get any feedbacks now because of no feedbacks?

    ….help me out here? I’d do anything or.. sigh. never mind.”

    “Thanks mama I appreciate your reply. What’s ffs?

    I just thought of this, what if I got an order of diaper(s) (without paying) then I go over to PO and have track number ready, send it to that person (with a picture of package of its address written down or something?) then I’ll wait until this person pays…would that work too? I don’t know! I know I gotta start somewhere, I’m not very much of a forum (computer) person as I’m posting this through my pager. Too bad new “mamas” have abused some mamas’ good reputation. I guess the only thing we can wait until this person gets my traded dipe … Again, will she?

    Hey, wouldn’t *I* get in trouble if I don’t send out something, right?? Isn’t that about a policy somewhere in this forum?

    Whew.”

    “I also hate the idea giving out personal information such as my children’s names, ages…you have to be careful with what you post. Because of few stalkers out there, I live a very privacy life and it’s hard for me to get involved with community. I could try my best but I also would want to mean my post by heart, not because of just to sell things.

    Hope you all understand. Tell me any ideas you have I can do. I’m just thankful this person (in GM forum) tried me anyway.”

    She just seems like she is making a lot of excuses for no reason at all. It screams scammer to me.

  41. magpiedpiper says:

    Why is she getting rid of diapers when on the GM forum she says –
    “Just feeling a little stressted, I’m gonna have triples soon and not sure how I can afford all those diapers. And I am not even 23 or worked yet, multi-surgeries for last two years.”

    If you aren’t sure you can afford all of the diapers you will need, why sell any of the ones you already have?
    And if she is selling/trading because they are too girly for her supposed three boy triplets, then why is she wanting to trade for Tip Toe Tulips? And getting rid of boy prints?

  42. naturalmamadot says:

    lmao, seriously everything about her pretty much screams scammer to me

  43. ladylili says:

    Yeah, I definitely wouldn’t buy from her.

  44. JustPeachy says:

    23 pregnant with triplets and never worked? Ya scamalicious.

  45. magpiedpiper says:

    I bet it’s that locked-in-a-shed troll. She’s 22/23 and has three kids. She may just be tweaking details a bit since she looooves to troll and scam. haha

  46. Messy says:

    Magpied, ITA! I am so freaking sick of people being scammed on DS. It is such that I see things I would LOVE to buy but am so scared of being screwed over that I cannot part with my money on that website.
    The whole story smells like canned tuna.

  47. me says:

    44- That seems the most plausible.

    I think she saw that GMs were going for a lot and thinks she can sell them and get other diapers for cheaper.
    That is what her posts sound like she is trying to say anyway.

    It could be a scam obviously but it sounds like she heard that GMs are hot and used to go for a lot and didn’t get the memo that they don’t anymore.

  48. myra says:

    She doesn’t like the idea of putting out her kids’ names and ages? 23 and pregnant with trips. Her kids’ don’t have names and ages, yet, unless she has others, although with her multiple surgeries, that seem kind of unlikely…Scammy scam scammer.

  49. DSDM2 says:

    I wonder if she isn ‘t that girl from WV again. The one that came back 3 or 4 different times as a scammer?

  50. me says:

    48- Well okay that does.
    The being 23 and pregnant without having had a job before is entirely plausible though.

  51. StickFigureSushi says:

    #50, absolutely agree. I had my first kid at 20, had never worked. Was a SAHM for several years after that. So I can see being 23, pregnant and having never worked. It happens.

  52. myra says:

    The not working part isn’t the part that reeks of scammer to me. It’s the rest of it.

  53. JustPeachy says:

    23 and pregnant with triplets tho? I am pretty sure its next to impossible to get pregnant with triplets naturally and I dont see many 23 year olds doing fertility treatments nowadays.

  54. žába says:

    You know what makes the story unbelievable to me, too many details. I just smacks of someone fibbing when they just keep adding to the story. LOL that why when I lie I keep it short and sweet…as in “sorry, we can’t come over today mom, the baby isn’t feeling well ” Instead of “sorry, we can’t come over today mom, the baby isn’t feeling well…she has a runny nose and pink eye…and and ear infection…..oh yeah and did I mention she just sprouted an extra arm”

  55. naturalmamadot says:

    The chances of having triplets without fertility treatments is something like 1 in 8000. Not as rare as I thought but still….EVERYTHING else about this lady screams scammer. She sounds like a nutjob lol, when she went on about something with taking pictures of packages and shit I have no idea wtf she was even getting at!

  56. me says:

    She said would people be okay with her sending then pping her if she took pics at the po of the stuff in a package with postage on it I think.

  57. JustPeachy says:

    Don’t forget how angry she got about people asking about feedback. I mean really if I was a newbie I would understand and wouldn’t my panties in a bunch.

  58. naturalmamadot says:

    yea she said feedback is unfair…unfairif you are a scammer

  59. Mmspirit7 says:

    peach…..it is possible…my mother was pregnant at 17 with triplets

  60. magpiedpiper says:

    She did tell me who she did the trade with on the GM forums, but they just traded one dipe and the transaction isn’t complete. So…if she’s selling ones that were traded/gifted to her whatever, then who gifted them to her exactly?

  61. AshleyB says:

    Who did she even “trade” with? Since the trade isn’t complete yet, I would at LEAST want to know WHO she is trading with to make sure she isn’t lying about being in a trade.

  62. you wish you knew me says:

    http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=836528

    BWHAHAHAHA~ CDMP called batty for talking about her BIL AGAIN.

  63. Sharpie says:

    #62 C&P please.

  64. you wish you knew me says:

    It went poof fast didn’t it?
    This is the last part of it after Batty whined and ignored people:

    Re: Isn’t it common to get a delivery confirmation number at least?

    Quote:
    “Originally Posted by ClothDiaperMePlease View Post
    We are trying to be understanding and sympathetic, but you need to try to see it from our view too. You didn’t seem to respond to the suggestions, just to continue to complain about the situation.

    Sorry your mom is in jail for killing your BIL. You mention it ALL THE TIME, so I know it must really be taking a toll on your mental well being. Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it), people in jail get limited contact with the outside world, that is how it works. Jail is a rehabilitation center for people to be made fit to live in society. People who kill people, or encourage people to kill go to jail so that they can repent for their mistakes, learn to be productive members of society, and eventually be good people again. They aren’t at a resort, and shouldn’t be allowed unlimited access to the problems/people that encouraged the situation that put them in jail.

    Your situation, as described, sucks, but man, how cool for your daughter to be able to experience that culture… I would definitely be looking at it a little differently than you are.”

    NATTYBATSMOM:
    MY MOTHER WILL NEVER GET OUT. SHE WILL DIE IN THERE AND I’M NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO SEE HER SO NO, YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF WHAT I AM GOING THROUGH AND YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND.

    Yeah, I yelled because you had NO right to go there. You can sit there and judge all you want but you have NEVER been there and you have NO idea what it is like to be in a country where you don’t know the language and can’t learn the language and you’re trying to figure it all out. Yeah, there are some great things about it and my daughter is learning things and there are neat things to see but that doesn’t mean that it’s always easy. It’s not. There are some HUGE differences. Think of your favorite things and then imagine that you could no longer get them. Things you take for granted and get to have whenever you want to, you can’t now because where you’re at, you can’t get it.

    EXCUSE me for asking for help. I really didn’t know what the situation was with DC #s and all that crap, all I know is that a mom on here got blasted for not getting a DC # for something she sent out, was told that that was what you were supposed to do. So I get that that isn’t the case for international shipping. I’m doing all I can to find out where that stuff is, to figure out what my address is, etc. You’re honestly going to sit there and say you wouldn’t feel frustrated that something you ordered and spent money on hasn’t come yet? Must be some nice life you live.

    Just forget it, I’ll ask the mods to delete this as it’s not going anywhere. I got the information I needed.

    My mom might have done what she did but she’s still my mom and she always will be and it’s hard not having seen her in over five years and it’s hard knowing that she can die anytime and I won’t ever get that chance to see her nor will she ever get to meet my daughter. You can sit there and say she deserved it but when it all comes down to it, if it were your mom, you’d probably be feeling the same way.
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    Re: Please delete; I have the information I need. Thank you.
    Wow, you totally read things the way you want to see them, don’t you? I didn’t “go there” you “go there” all the time Janeen.

    I never said you shouldn’t feel like you do, or anything of the sort, just that jail is set up that way for a reason. Right or wrong, that is how it is and complaining about it won’t help, it will just make you more depressed.

    You are going to have a long hard road ahead of you, and a better outlook on it will really go a long way. The energy you put into things is the energy you will get out of things. Positive energy and outlooks will better your life.

    You are in an awesome place, you can learn the language, and you can really embrace life while you are there.

    Again, like I said in a PP, you should use a CC and buy from major retailers in order to ensure that your order arrives.

  65. monkey says:

    I’m in Korea (like Janeen) and I’ve never had a package not make it.

    Some people just honestly aren’t cut out for living overseas. And unfortunately I think Janeen was seriously damaged by the events that went down with her parents. She really should look into some counseling.

  66. me says:

    She mentioned that in a thread about DC#s?
    I’d thought her talking about how great her mom was with dogs was odd..

  67. DSDM2 says:

    Here is the whole thread, I don’t think she directly mentions is, but she does indirectly mention it and complains about everything in it.

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    Isn’t it common to get a delivery confirmation number at least?
    Just over a month ago, I made a couple of purchases from moms on here. Now, I’m in South Korea and my address is a little complicated. I figured it out as best as I could though but it appears I’m missing the building number (there’s no normal street address, it’s either building name or number). Now, the package my sister sent made it here just didn’t get to my apartment but to the post office. The other two are still missing and neither one has any kind of a number I can use to track down the packages. The 23rd will be 40 days and I know I only have 45 days to dispute the payment. I mean, it wouldn’t be a big deal but I’m out almost $100 if I don’t get these items and I’m not rich enough to just let $100 go.

    I’m just not sure what to do at this point and I’m feeling a little frustrated, a DC number would really help but it appears that neither of the sellers got one.
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    DC doesn’t work once it leaves the US
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    Re: Isn’t it common to get a delivery confirmation number at least?
    It would give an idea as to whether it has left the US though. The post office has asked about a tracking number of some sort to see where the packages may have gone. I’m going to be in Korea for some time and I don’t want this to happen again. At the same time, I’m going to need things sent here because there are things I cannot find here in Korea that I’m going to need, like soap that won’t cause my daughter to react. There has to be some kind of option so that I can make sure my mail gets to me.
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    The seller is responsible, if you file with PP you would win. But, if they can provide a mailing receipt, I wouldn’t file.
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    Was your address wrong on your paypal account? Was it a verified address? DC isn’t even offered when I am sending packages out of the US.
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    You can’t put a foreign address on there. I added it in the shipping instructions. So, basically, I’m almost $100 then?
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    basically.
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    ETA: In the same way that you have no proof that they shipped, they have no proof that you haven’t received it…
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    Re: Isn’t it common to get a delivery confirmation number at least?
    I always get a certificate of mailing if I am shipping international. It just makes me feel better that I have something to show to the buyer proving I mailed their package.

    But it gets expensive if you want to track something international.
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    Even if they did get DC you would be using pp improperly since you requested they surrender their seller protection by mailing to a non-verified address.
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    Re: Isn’t it common to get a delivery confirmation number at least?
    So what are my options if I want to order something out of this country? My daughter cannot use regular soap. She breaks out. It’s mild but I’d much rather get soap that does not cause her to break out because so far, I haven’t found hydrocortisone cream here. Even the Dr. Bonner’s causes her to break out a little due to the citric acid in it. So, I want to be able to order her soaps and get cloth pads for myself. It doesn’t appear that I have any way of changing the address on there to set it up for here. I have ordered items and they have not arrived. Do I have any options? How long should I wait before requesting a refund? I really do not want to be out almost $100 and not have anything for it. I’m checking the post office everyday but I’m not sure what’s going on. They keep asking for some kind of a tracking number and I have nothing to give them. No tracking number, no delivery confirmation number, no customs number, nothing. So, I’m at a lost here. I’m getting really depressed because I ordered these things and I’m living in a country that really does not have things available like the US does (people in the US, REALLY take things for granted, let me tell you because seriously, you can’t find HALF of the stuff here you can find there). We’re not military. I don’t have an APO address. I really don’t know what to do and I really could use some help. I’m having a hard enough time adjusting to a new country without having issues with getting stuff I NEED to get both for me and my child.

    Addresses here are very tricky. South Korea, first of all, has their own “alphabet”. Then you have the fact that there are no “street” addresses here, it goes by building name OR number depending. The last place I lived in was a building NAME and this place has both so I thought the name would be sufficient and it wasn’t. Addresses here are also written backwards. So, I’ve been trying to figure all of this out. Everything went fine at the last place I lived at but that job ended and we had to move. So, I really am trying to figure this out and I really do not want to be out my money, that’s not small change for me and to not get any of that back is going to hurt. So, I really could use some advice here.

    I don’t doubt that the package was mailed but a tracking number would really help to know where it is since at this point, we’re going to the post office practically every single day for the last two weeks trying to see if it has shown up yet.
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    Unfortunately, it’s not that sellers are trying to NOT give you the information you need, it’s just not available. Yes, you could pay the extra $20 to get it sent to you in a way that has tracking or delivery confirmation or something, but that would be up to you. You can file a claim with Paypal against the mama, but it’s very possible that when they sent the package, they used whatever was in your PP address on file, not what you noted in comments. And it’s possible that these things are stuck at customs.

    I know it’s a lot of money. Perhaps you should stick to buying things with a credit card/bank card rather than through paypal?
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    Re: Isn’t it common to get a delivery confirmation number at least?
    The PO will not even sell you DC for an international package (unless it is to Canada, which I did not discover until recently). Did you offer to pay extra for international tracking? Like the PP’s said, it will cost extra. Depending on how it was shipped and the weight, it could be anywhere from $15-$30 extra. Technically, that is the sellers responsibility, but at the same time it should fall to a buyer to cover that cost when they live out of country.

    I know you are out your money and you would win if you filed with Paypal, but I don’t think it would be right to do that to your seller if you know they shipped. IMO, you both took a risk, so you should both split the cost if it does not show up.
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    Re: Isn’t it common to get a delivery confirmation number at least?
    Just for future reference you might want to check this out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addresses_in_South_Korea

    It gives you the format for a S.K. addy. Maybe you could also send the link to a seller when you are buying so they know what they are looking at.

    If you really NEED these things then I would suck it up and pay extra for tracking. I guess it all depends on how bad you really NEED these items.
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    Re: Isn’t it common to get a delivery confirmation number at least?
    The more I read your post, the less I understand what the issue is…

    Is the issue that you don’t want to have to go to the PO everyday checking on the packages? That the person/people didn’t address them correctly? That you don’t know how to make sure the packages arrive at the correct address?

    If you are sure the person mailed the package to you, and you didn’t pay for insurance (which is expensive, and if it is like insurance to CA, only covers to the border) then what are you asking?

    We all keep giving the same answers, but either you don’t want to hear it, or aren’t understanding.

    You can file with PP, but no, it would NOT be cool in this situation b/c the seller can’t protect herself to mail to you and did her best.

    YOU asked the seller to ship to somewhere outside of PayPal protection, which puts you BOTH at risk.

    The answer is to buy with a CC and not through PP. There are a lot of great soaps sold at major retailers that won’t break out your DD, and you won’t risk being out the item and money that way.
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    Re: Isn’t it common to get a delivery confirmation number at least?
    Quote:
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    Just for future reference you might want to check this out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addresses_in_South_Korea

    It gives you the format for a S.K. addy. Maybe you could also send the link to a seller when you are buying so they know what they are looking at.

    If you really NEED these things then I would suck it up and pay extra for tracking. I guess it all depends on how bad you really NEED these items.
    My daughter breaks out with most soaps. She has mild eczema. So far, we can’t even find anything that would take care of that because things that we take for granted being available in the US are not here. One way we can deal with that is by using soap that is VERY mild and unscented. Unfortunately, that’s next to impossible to find here. Even when I have found organic items that I would find in the states, the unscented versions are never offered. So, for example, in the case of the Dr. Bronner’s (which I can find), they have all of the scents except for the baby mild. However, even that will cause her to breakout slightly. I’m finally finding soap that isn’t but it has to be ordered from the states.

    I’m still hoping it will come here (because a letter that was sent within the country still took a week to get here) but I am concerned about being out all of the money too. I’m having a hard time finding things for my daughter and having things shipped here is one way to do that.

    Again, it’s kind of hard to understand unless you live somewhere where you can’t find all of the things you can find in the US. We can’t even find simple things like oatmeal, wheat bread, deli meat, things like that. We’ve made due but at the same time, I’m not going to put things on my child that are going to cause her to break out, especially when I can’t even find the cream that you use for eczema.

    And if that isn’t bad enough, the only way I can communicate with my mother is through letters. She’s not able to set up emails, I’m not able to call her, etc. So, it’s doubly frustrating.

    Unfortunately, when you take on a job at a school like my husband does, most people do not take the time to explain how the address system works. You sort of just have to figure it all out. I didn’t have any problems with delivery at the last place so I didn’t expect problems here at this place. Unfortunately, that hasn’t been the case and I’m really kind of at a loss as to what to do. It’s not like I can go out and buy my daughter Johnson and Johnson or something. I can’t. Therefore, if I’m going to be here for the next year or so, I’d like to know that I’m going to get the things I ordered.
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    Re: Isn’t it common to get a delivery confirmation number at least?
    Sounds like the logical solution, in the future, would be to send pp gift to someone you know stateside, have them order for you and have it mailed to them (all protected) and then have someone you KNOW mail to you. Yes, you will pay postage in the US and then postage to you, but that way at least it is someone you know who you can supply with a label they can just copy and put on each package with the address.
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    Re: Isn’t it common to get a delivery confirmation number at least?
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    The more I read your post, the less I understand what the issue is…

    Is the issue that you don’t want to have to go to the PO everyday checking on the packages? That the person/people didn’t address them correctly? That you don’t know how to make sure the packages arrive at the correct address?

    If you are sure the person mailed the package to you, and you didn’t pay for insurance (which is expensive, and if it is like insurance to CA, only covers to the border) then what are you asking?

    We all keep giving the same answers, but either you don’t want to hear it, or aren’t understanding.

    You can file with PP, but no, it would NOT be cool in this situation b/c the seller can’t protect herself to mail to you and did her best.

    YOU asked the seller to ship to somewhere outside of PayPal protection, which puts you BOTH at risk.

    The answer is to buy with a CC and not through PP. There are a lot of great soaps sold at major retailers that won’t break out your DD, and you won’t risk being out the item and money that way.
    Well, from what I’m getting:
    1. DC doesn’t work beyond the US nor does insurance (so that answers one of my questions).
    2. What are my options (basically nothing which yeah sucks, I don’t like being out $100, do you?)?
    3. How can I avoid this in the future, some good suggestions on that which I appreciate.
    4. So now my question is, where can I get soap that is pretty much 100% olive oil or goat’s milk soap, that doesn’t cost a fortune, that I can maybe get here at my address? It’s hard figuring out who will and will not ship here which was why I went through the WAHM thing in the first place.

    I am still hoping that the stuff will make it here, at some point. I did get one package that used the same address I gave to the sellers. That is why I have been having my husband go to the post office each day. I’m not blaming the sellers here as I know it is not either of their faults but I am frustrated! I’m frustrated with the whole situation. I’m here, in a foreign country, where things are not readily available like they are at home. I’m a little on the homesick side and it would be nice to get my mail. Not to mention, like I said in an earlier post, snail mail is the only way I can communicate with my mom and hear from her and how she is doing. I do not like the idea at all of not being able to talk to her for the next year plus. Bad enough I haven’t seen her in over five years now. And unlike most people, I can’t email her or call her. So yeah, that’s hard. And it’s just a sucky situation all around that I have little to no control over. I appreciate some of the suggestions, I just wish people would be a little more understanding.
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    I just wish people would be a little more understanding.
    We are trying to be understanding and sympathetic, but you need to try to see it from our view too. You didn’t seem to respond to the suggestions, just to continue to complain about the situation.

    Sorry your mom is in jail for killing your BIL. You mention it ALL THE TIME, so I know it must really be taking a toll on your mental well being. Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it), people in jail get limited contact with the outside world, that is how it works. Jail is a rehabilitation center for people to be made fit to live in society. People who kill people, or encourage people to kill go to jail so that they can repent for their mistakes, learn to be productive members of society, and eventually be good people again. They aren’t at a resort, and shouldn’t be allowed unlimited access to the problems/people that encouraged the situation that put them in jail.

    Your situation, as described, sucks, but man, how cool for your daughter to be able to experience that culture… I would definitely be looking at it a little differently than you are.
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    We are trying to be understanding and sympathetic, but you need to try to see it from our view too. You didn’t seem to respond to the suggestions, just to continue to complain about the situation.

    Sorry your mom is in jail for killing your BIL. You mention it ALL THE TIME, so I know it must really be taking a toll on your mental well being. Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it), people in jail get limited contact with the outside world, that is how it works. Jail is a rehabilitation center for people to be made fit to live in society. People who kill people, or encourage people to kill go to jail so that they can repent for their mistakes, learn to be productive members of society, and eventually be good people again. They aren’t at a resort, and shouldn’t be allowed unlimited access to the problems/people that encouraged the situation that put them in jail.

    Your situation, as described, sucks, but man, how cool for your daughter to be able to experience that culture… I would definitely be looking at it a little differently than you are.
    MY MOTHER WILL NEVER GET OUT. SHE WILL DIE IN THERE AND I’M NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO SEE HER SO NO, YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF WHAT I AM GOING THROUGH AND YOU WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND.

    Yeah, I yelled because you had NO right to go there. You can sit there and judge all you want but you have NEVER been there and you have NO idea what it is like to be in a country where you don’t know the language and can’t learn the language and you’re trying to figure it all out. Yeah, there are some great things about it and my daughter is learning things and there are neat things to see but that doesn’t mean that it’s always easy. It’s not. There are some HUGE differences. Think of your favorite things and then imagine that you could no longer get them. Things you take for granted and get to have whenever you want to, you can’t now because where you’re at, you can’t get it.

    EXCUSE me for asking for help. I really didn’t know what the situation was with DC #s and all that crap, all I know is that a mom on here got blasted for not getting a DC # for something she sent out, was told that that was what you were supposed to do. So I get that that isn’t the case for international shipping. I’m doing all I can to find out where that stuff is, to figure out what my address is, etc. You’re honestly going to sit there and say you wouldn’t feel frustrated that something you ordered and spent money on hasn’t come yet? Must be some nice life you live.

    Just forget it, I’ll ask the mods to delete this as it’s not going anywhere. I got the information I needed.

    My mom might have done what she did but she’s still my mom and she always will be and it’s hard not having seen her in over five years and it’s hard knowing that she can die anytime and I won’t ever get that chance to see her nor will she ever get to meet my daughter. You can sit there and say she deserved it but when it all comes down to it, if it were your mom, you’d probably be feeling the same way.
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    Wow, you totally read things the way you want to see them, don’t you? I didn’t “go there” you “go there” all the time Janeen.

    I never said you shouldn’t feel like you do, or anything of the sort, just that jail is set up that way for a reason. Right or wrong, that is how it is and complaining about it won’t help, it will just make you more depressed.

    You are going to have a long hard road ahead of you, and a better outlook on it will really go a long way. The energy you put into things is the energy you will get out of things. Positive energy and outlooks will better your life.

    You are in an awesome place, you can learn the language, and you can really embrace life while you are there.

    Again, like I said in a PP, you should use a CC and buy from major retailers in order to ensure that your order arrives.
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  68. magpiedpiper says:

    Man, how hard would it be for her to ask her landlord what her address is? Who GUESSES what their address is anyway, especially if they are having packages sent internationally?

  69. DSDM2 says:

    I have a feeling that NattyBatsMom has worn out her welcome and people are getting tired of her. She really is a downer.

  70. me says:

    68-
    She freaking guessed?
    Her DH works at a school and she had no way to ask anyone? I’d assume that they should be educated in what the heck an address is.

    I am so confused!
    Hey Monkey, can you go tell her or do you have a military address?

  71. naturalmamadot says:

    Seriously, id be going to South Korea ALONE if I was her husband lmao, no way could I deal with someone so depressing and negative

  72. naturalmamadot says:

    lmao #70 I know right, you wouldnt put your buildings name AND number? come on.. too much info prolly cant hurt

  73. DSDM2 says:

    http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=685188&page=2 is the order. Who wants to bet that she files on the WAHM that was nice enough to mail to her over seas?

  74. naturalmamadot says:

    lmfao
    I am about to fall off my chair, did she REALLY just write all that in her WAHM thread? AND brought up her mom again ?

  75. magpiedpiper says:

    That poor WAHM. Batty is a freaking loon.

  76. DSDM2 says:

    She fucking c&ped the response in that thread to the one she had deleted!

    She really is out of her mind and in need of serious mental help.

  77. soOverit says:

    I remember her. She was complaining that she couldn’t leave the house because she is Hard of Hearing or Deaf. All negative crap. Her dh is never home, she is stuck with her child 24/7 blah blah blah……….

  78. magpiedpiper says:

    She probably had to start her own thread since she didn’t get enough attention in the wahm thread or here where she tried to butt in too –

    http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8403768&postcount=9

  79. Kimbella says:

    I don’t see why she doesn’t have a friend/relative in the US just buy her the stuff she wants and then ship it to her in Korea.

    Oh, except then she wouldn’t have anything to complain about.

  80. naturalmamadot says:

    well with a negative attitude like that, she prolly doesnt have any friends..actually thinking about it I remember her saying shes always had trouble making friends and even though she is completely clueless as to why, Im pretty sure everyone else can figure out why.

  81. JustPeachy says:

    Ya because ppl wanna be friends with a Negative Nancy. Im not cold and unsympathetic to what she has to deal with as far as her mom, but seriously don’t bring it up in every god damned thread just for ass pats and hugs.

  82. DSDM2 says:

    Has she ever said something positive? Or has everything been negative? I can’t remember anything positive from her.

  83. Messy says:

    #82 OF COURSE SHE HAS SAID POSITIVE THINGS!!! She has told people to not be so upset over their problems, because afterall her mom and dad killed her BIL. She has done that many times… Hmmm… That is ALL she does. Ok, so I see your point ROFLMAO!

  84. piratebaby says:

    Her dh is seventeen yrs older than her (she’s 28, he’s 45)….so they got together when she was 22 and he was 40?? Not to say that relationships like that can’t work, but it just seems weird that someone so young would get with someone so old. Her blog is one big long drama-riffic whoa is me complaint. Like a trip on the subway takes her an entire page to explain and b!tch about. I think perhaps she still has a bit of little girl/daddy thing going on with her husband, as in she acts like a child and he guides her along kwim?

    And I can’t believe that she would not make sure to get her address right! I mean, seriously. I’ve never lived overseas but my dh and brother have and we’ve always made sure to get addresses correct. She could have got her landlord or someone to write it down for her, or even her dh. Looking at the wiki entry someone posted it does look extremely confusing, but that just makes it even more important to be sure that it is correct. She states that she DID receive a package from her sister, so why can’t she just have stuff sent to her sister and then forwarded on? The whole situation just seems strong, honestly. Are they the only Americans there? Do they not belong to some sort of ministry/teaching group/whatever? I dunno, weird situation.

  85. piratebaby says:

    that should read the whole situation is *strange*, not strong…..
    shouldn’t type while helping with homework lol

  86. .bin. says:

    She is fucking insane. seriously. Sorry for the language, but there isn’t anything else to say.

  87. monkey says:

    #70

    I have a non-military address. When I have stuff mailed overseas I always put my complete address AND my cell phone number AND my Korean friend’s number. That way if something happens than can either call me or her. I’ve never had a problem, you just have to be careful. I hope she doesn’t file because a lot of WAHM’s don’t want to ship overseas anyway and I don’t want anymore convinced not too. Honestly, I only buy from WAHM’s I know are super reputable and if I ever had a package not arrive I would eat it. I figure if the WAHM was kind enough to ship overseas she shouldn’t have to cover the cost of a missing package, I knew the danger when I ordered.

  88. Erin says:

    She’s a nut. She could easily find out her address(I have lived in Japan and we had a similar street/building address) but my guess is that she wrote it down wrong and she’s too stupid to realize it’s her fault, so she’ll just file on the WAHM.

    I can not stand her. I bet if her mom wasn’t in prison, Batty Natty would still be living at home with her.

  89. monkey says:

    #79

    The majority of the time I have things sent to my dad and have him send them on. It costs a bit more because I’m paying for shipping twice. But the last time I was home I made a label for my dad in English and Korean so he can just print it when he needs to send me a package.

    A lot of people just honestly cannot handle living abroad long term. I’ve been a traveler most of my adult life and I’ve seen it over and over. And with the downturn in the U.S. economy we’re seeing more and more of it over here. Anyone with a college degree can get a job teaching English in Korea… .but that doesn’t mean they’re cut out to be a teacher or to live in another country. (I’m fortunate, I was in education before I came to Korea and I work for a “real” school.)

    And honestly, there are tons of western goods available in Korea. And the Korean people are some of the kindest and most welcoming people I’ve ever met. If you take the time to learn 4 or 5 phrases in Korean they will love you to bits. They go out of their way to help the “waygooks”. It’s all about being willing to get out, meet people and explore the country. And there are usually a lot of foreigners who like to help out newbs. I guess it really is a personality thing to a large extent. I went through my entire pregnancy and birth here in Korea and that was the experience that truly made me love Korea. I realized that my Korean friends would go out of their way to help, protect and love me.

    Sorry to ramble, this is something close to my heart.

  90. monkey says:

    Hi Erin! International mama power!

    LOL, you sent me that package with no problems! You and I are smart!

  91. Kimbella says:

    I worked with several soldiers who had lived in S. Korea with their families. They had nothing but good things to say about living there. One colonel and his wife even adopted their daughter while they were there and have gone back to visit several times.

  92. monkey says:

    #91

    I’ve known a lot of soldiers and former expats who come back to visit yearly as well. It really is a great country.

  93. naturalmamadot says:

    its just HER, EVERYTHING sucks to her everyONE sucks to her, every possible situation sucks, because her bil was killed by her parents @@

  94. downy20 says:

    I C&P because this isn’t going to be around for long. I thought it was pretty funny though. I wonder why joibella never left feedback for Maddie&Jake’sMom. Anyone know if joibella is telling the truth?

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    Caveat emptor (buyer beware)!

    I bought a pair of Luxe longies from this mama and when they got here they were not the size she had posted. She said she’d take them back so I sent them….but never got refunded, or saw the longies again. There was some excuse about me taking too long to return them. I’ve sent several e-mails but no response. Like I said to her, the karma fairies do not like that at all….

  95. downy20 says:

    Oh, I forgot the link in case it doesn’t go poof…ha ha

    http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=836732

  96. naturalmamadot says:

    wow I really hope its just a misunderstanding or something I really like maddieandjakesmom

  97. downy20 says:

    There are always two sides. I am curious though.

  98. werd says:

    I vaguely remember Maddie&Jake’sMom posting about that very transaction on CDN… seems like the lady who bought the pants that supposedly didn’t fit, basically used them until they didn’t fit (they were like NB or small sized) and then tried to return them when her child grew out of them or something.

  99. magpiedpiper says:

    I don’t know – she looks a little shady. From her posts, she sold a lot of wool because by her own admission she overbought. So maybe it was a buyer’s remorse thing?

    Also, she bought a pair of gently used yellow luxe longies here in February –
    http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6358315#post6358315

    And tried to re-sell them later in July as “brand new” here –
    http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=781238

  100. magpiedpiper says:

    An werd, I recall that too actually, but couldn’t remember if I was thinking of the right person or not.

  101. downy20 says:

    Joibella does look very shady. Buying something used and then trying to sell it as brand new for more than you paid…wow!! Joibella is the one going on my do not BST list. Thanks magpie!!

  102. werd says:

    yep found the thread – its in TGBU section of cdn. Apparently the longies were nb and she thought and posted that they were xs. buyer contacted her to tell her and M&J’smom offered a refund if they were shipped back… never heard from the buyer for 3 weeks. M&J’smom pmed again after the 3 weeks and buyer said she was going to keep them and try to resell bc she had her baby and got busy.

    3 weeks after that, buyer pms M&J’smom and wants a refund AND says she sent the longies back that day! AKA her newborn prolly grew out of them. SLEAZY!!

  103. magpiedpiper says:

    Also, the buyer said she shaved them before sending them back, which she would not have had to do with new, never worn longies. M&J’s mom was willing to refund the full amount plus shipping if she sent it back, but the buyer said that she would just keep and resell them herself, then suddenly says, oh, I sent these back to you. Not cool!

  104. amessymama says:

    I’m trying very hard not to specifically comment to that shady chick. But I did post that if they were girly I would *totally* buy them.

  105. amessymama says:

    Well her post got deleted, but under reasons is says “outing.”

    I think they should put “inappropriate post by a shady bitch”.

  106. magpiedpiper says:

    happy2Bamommy – I think you check the blog more often than some of the regular posters. I hope you gave Ms. Joibella a warning at least, since that seems a little worse than me telling Lavendardragonfly to get some perspective about life and woolies.

  107. monkey says:

    I find this irritating. There is a mama on DS that’s had an item up for 2 MONTHS! She keeps bumping it and complaining that it hasn’t sold, but she hasn’t reduced the price ONCE. It’s like if you really want it gone drop a $1 off the price, then $2 and see what happens.

    Sorry. I’m just sick of seeing it. I know it’s not drama, but it’s annoying me.

  108. pissedoff24 says:

    Thanks mamas…As I actually posted about this lying sleaze on CDN in TGB&U a few months ago.

    The longies were just recently shipped back. I wanted to make 100% sure she wasn’t going to use them again and made her wait the same way she made me wait. Obviously I didn’t sell or use them because Jakey outgrew them when he was like 6 weeks old, but she pissed me off, I made her wait. I don’t take kindly to lying scammers, so paid her back, so to speak. She should have them by now….but her post made me wish I just kept them.

    You can all bite my head off for waiting so long, but honestly? She’s a twunt to the highest power and I wanted to piss her off for the annoyance she became to me.

    I had been more than willing to work with her after my mistake of listing them as XS when they were NB sized. ITs not THAT big of a difference, but it had been MY mistake. I owned up to it, offered a refund and got no response for almost 4 weeks. When she finally DID respond, she said she was going to keep them and resell them when she had the time. She said she was just too busy since the baby arrived. Fine, I was satisfied with that. When the longies arrived in the mail and I got an email stating that she sent them back…a MONTH LATER…I was shocked, to say the least. WTF was I going to do with that? I had just used all of my PP to buy new stuff for my quickly growing baby boy and didn’t have to send back to her like she was suddenly demanding.

    That pissed me off so much, I made her sleazy ass wait.

  109. pissedoff24 says:

    oh, and I have ALL of those emails (and showed them on CDN with time/date stamp) as proof of her scammy slime.

    Happy2bamommy…in response to your PM on DS…there is your story. If you’d like the emails, please let me know. I would be more than willing to C&P them in here or to you in an email.

    Thanks,
    S

  110. pissedoff24 says:

    one last thing…this was a nice way to come back after a 6 month ban to DS. LOL

    SOOOOOOOOO fucking typical. Scammy mama drama.

  111. naturalmamadot says:

    Im really glad to hear that youre in the clear 😀

  112. naturalmamadot says:

    lmao #107 I hope thats not me *duck* I have a NIP dipe that I bought and forgot to bring out before DS PL’d and now Im stuck with it and no one wants to buy it for more than like 5 bucks lmao so Ill just keep it if no one wants it when its dropped pretty far already 😀 whats this mama sellin

  113. amessymama says:

    107-Dude! That irritates the crap out of me. I’ll either lower my price or say “make an offer” eventually.

    Carrie Meredith does that all the time. She never changes her wording in the listing. So it says, I just got this last week and it didn’t fit, work or whatever. But the post is a year old. And she bumps it twice a day like clock work. I’m so sick of seeing the thread entitled “Super cute bright pink sweater.” Or her Peanut Shell pouch. It’s been a year, take a freakin’ buck off!!

    I shouldn’t care really. I just find it so irritating that if she ever did have anything I wanted, I would not buy it.

    I feel better now. 🙂 Thanks for the opportunity to vent.

  114. naturalmamadot says:

    Oh all my listings have make me an offer on it, and Im open to them as long as its not lowballing, so I guess not me lmao

  115. JustPeachy says:

    I dont even bother to list on DS or CDN. Its really not even worth it to me to be bothered with incessant pms for me to lower my prices or take less. I put mine up at a reasonable and fair market value and Im tired of people offering me 25 bucks for a pair of longies knit with premium yarn.

  116. žába says:

    I had a kind of weird transaction with Maddie&Jake’smom a while back. In the end she made it right, but the whole thing was a little strange. Not to say that jobella isn’t a shady biotch, but Maddie&Jakesmom doesn’t smell like roses in my book.

  117. diudiaole says:

    #115 — peachy, you could just put ‘prices are firm’ in the listing.

    I see negotiation as part of the deal and I have definitely ‘low-balled’ people in the past… sometimes they said ‘no’ and I just paid the asking price or sometimes it was too high and I had to pass… I can see how it could hurt your feelings when it is already priced lower than they are worth though.

    Just mentioning that the prices are firm should take care of those annoying PMs however.

  118. JustPeachy says:

    I dont mind if people ask me to combine shipping and give a discount or to take a few bucks off. But when you are asking me to take 20 bucks off the price ya thats a little insulting.

  119. diudiaole says:

    Oh wow that is ridiculous…

  120. amessymama says:

    This pisses me off.

    http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=837110

    She orders fabric and gets shorted, quite a bit.

    Everyone pleads w/ her to leave FB for the transaction.

    Her response:
    You’re all right that I should leave appropriate feedback but I already told her I felt she didn’t deserve a negative and that I’m not even going to leave a neutral. Honestly I feel it deserves a neutral at least but since I already told her (and she feels bad) I’m just letting it go. She’s had over 300 positive transactions so it’s not like she’s new here. I measured the piece below the 17in wide part only to find that that’s not even 26 inches. It was more like a 39in x 26 with tails. She did mail to me quickly so at least that part was positive. She said I could mail it back but I really want the fabric and I don’t want to be out shipping.

    What an idiot. I’m glad she got screwed!

  121. pippen says:

    nothing new, but DS is still infected. I seriously thought it would have been taken care of by now. I use firefox and my computer is fighting off worms each time I go on there. I have one transaction to complete and I’m done with it.

  122. pissedoff24 says:

    žába…who are you on DS?

  123. pissedoff24 says:

    Nice to see DS pulled my FSOT listing because of Joy.

    what the fuck?

    And žába…I cannot wait to find out who you are. A WEIRD transaction with me?

    The only time I had any transaction issues before was when I was hospitalized about 11 times in the first trimester of my pregnancy. For anyone who had issues receiving packages because of this, I ended up not only making it right, but I sent extra diapers. And not shitty diapers….EUC Mutts, GMs…whatever I could to make it right. I can get at least 5 people on here to vouch for that.

    I remember it well though…word on DS for a while was (even with over 250 positive transactions) that I was a scammer. I know who started that shit too. I have never scammed anyone. Yes, including you žába…whomever the fuck you are.

    And yes, I’m pissed big time at your bullshit post.

  124. Who Me? says:

    Just coming to see if anyone else noticed DS is infested again!!

  125. werd says:

    wtf?! They pulled your listing?!?! That is SO not right… you didn’t do anything wrong! Who the hell waits like 2 months and then is like “uhm I don’t want this, give me a refund” – nice.

  126. werd says:

    And yes that lady whining about how she got shorted fabric but won’t do anything about it – well, I guess you deserve it then.

  127. monkey says:

    #112

    Not you. This is a longies set. A fairly expensive longies set. And the thing is I know she probably paid a lot for it new so she’s trying to get as much resale value out of it as she can… but don’t complain about it not selling if you aren’t willing to adjust your price.

  128. monkey says:

    #113

    I’m glad someone else feels the same way… I thought I was being totally unreasonable! But I’ve been looking for longies a lot lately so I’ve had to look at these things every day for freaking weeks now. It’s a really cute set. I bet if she would knock even $3 of the price it would sell.

  129. monkey says:

    #115

    But Peachy… once it’s been up for TWO months don’t you consider dropping a dollar off?

    Thing is I have NEVER lowballed anyone (if an item is reasonably priced I just pay the asking price). I don’t even think her item is over priced, it’s a really nice set by a great knitter/clothing maker. But the thing is it hasn’t sold in two months!!! If something hadn’t sold in that long and you posted more than once that you “really need to sell it to buy __________” wouldn’t you drop the price at least a couple of bucks to see what happened?

  130. žába says:

    Maddie&JakesMom/pissedoff24 – I didn’t say you were a scammer, I said I had a weird transaction with you. I did say you made it right, I never said anything about your diapers being shitty. I was unsure if I would go into another transaction with you after that. But, after that little outburst I now am sure that I will not. The sad thing is I always liked you on DS and had you acted with a bit more class here I would have been more likely to buy from you again.

  131. pissedoff24 says:

    I’m heartbroken. No really, I am.

    You still didn’t explain yourself and why our transaction was “weird”. Don’t try to rip me on here and then not explain yourself. I’m CLEARLY already pissed about what is transpiring with this other woman and you go and say some snarky crap like you did? Did you want rainbows and sunshine in return?

  132. žába says:

    Wow. I really don’t know what to say to you Sami. Did I have a weird transaction with you-yes. Do I think your a scammer -no. Do I think that your communication with me during our transaction could have been vastly improved- Abso-fucking-lutly. But, apparently I am not allowed to comment on my experience with you without you blowing a fucking fuse. It seems like you are the one that wanted to come on here, complain about jobella, get some “rainbows and sunshine” about how she is a scamtastic bitch and you are not to blame at all. Well, sister, you have screwed up some transactions too, own it and move on.

  133. monkey says:

    #132

    Zaba, I do think it’s important to say WHY a transaction was weird. You need to be a little more specific because a “weird” transaction could be anything. And also if you are a little more detailed about it you give M&J a chance to respond. But to just say something was “weird” could be construed a lot of different ways.

  134. amessymama says:

    Why won’t you just say what happened?

    We’re here for you. Let it all out. You’ll feel better.

    I’m bored.

    And nosy.

    🙂

  135. werd says:

    FTR regarding M&J’sMom… SHE didn’t come here complaining looking for rainbows and sunshine. Someone posted the link with the Joibella comment in it, and I and others remembered the background on the situation and posted our info. Then M&J’sMom came on and basically reiterated what we already said… then you came on with your info.

  136. žába says:

    After I paid Maddi&Jake’sMom, I waited a while (I want to say a week or so, but it’s been a while) and no email that she sent my package out or a DC# After emailing her, she finally responded to tell me that oops she sent my diapers to someone else, but now she has them back. Ok, so I should be receiving them shortly I think. Nope, I wait a few more days, and email her again to find out when I can expect my diapers. No response from her, but my diapers do show up express mailed a couple of days later. Had she communicated with me and just let me know what was going on I would have been fine with the whole thing, but anytime there was any communication it was because I was emailing her to find out what was going on. Oh and did I mention that all this was at exactly the same time she was getting banned over at DS, so yeah the whole transaction left me a bit unsettled.

  137. pissedoff24 says:

    LOL, ok, so I got banned for something COMPLETELY unrelated. And on my end, if you had bothered asking…I could have told you (or showed you) the ass ripping I was giving Juan in emails about my transactions and how they were not being handled properly by him. I needed my PMs to see who was getting what since some mamas didn’t put in their PP notes and the only way I could FIX things was with my PMs. I had 8 transactions going out and 2 got mixed up. Shit happens and I couldn’t really reach everyone properly because I was banned and my PMs were unreachable.

    Had you just ASKED me first, instead of just saying “Oh she had some weird transaction with me” it would have been taken care of immediately and I could have explained. But when someone says they had a weird transaction with someone, I don’t usually want to even risk going near them for a b/s/t. So yes, you saying that on here minus explanation, pissed me off because any one of these mamas could have decided not to come near me for b/s/t. I sent your package overnight. I think I’ve done that twice. Ever. And the first time I did was when the mama paid for overnight. THAT is how badly I felt about the mixup and my inability to see who was getting what.

    Carry on.

  138. cdc3030 says:

    Anyone here buy spotted boxes this month? I wanna know who gets the big box!

  139. amessymama says:

    Now the air is clear and it all makes sense.

    And my curiosity has been satisfied. 🙂

  140. Thud says:

    137 Sounds like things were a mess, still not the buyer’s problem, nor the buyer’s to ‘just ask’ about.

  141. mmspirit7 says:

    I need a new place to hang out. I need a break from cdn

  142. mmspirit7 says:

    anyone got a place.

  143. me says:

    Okay so M&J’smom screwed up and then overnighted to make up for it? That was nice of her.

    The lady with the fabric got a weird answer. Someone said she agrees with not leaving feedback and she got a good deal basically. WTF?

  144. pissedoff24 says:

    Thud…wtf are you talking about?

    Before saying some cryptic “I had a weird transaction with her” comment about me, she should have explained herself first. Not attempt to make people think I am a sleazeball.

    Never said it WAS her problem..seriously, wtf are you talking about? If I felt that way, I’d have shipped the package first class and told her to deal with it. Instead, I did the best thing I could under the circumstances and paid like 20 bucks to send it Express Mail.

    Did you want blood or my first born with that?

  145. pissedoff24 says:

    Adding…its not her fault that I got banned at the same time and could not reach anyone about their transactions and that Juan (while promising me he was taking care of them all) was fucking things up worse.

    which is why it was taken care of properly on my end. If you don’t think Express Mailing a package (after already being out money for shipping 2 packages to the wrong people and having to reship BOTH), I don’t really know what to tell you.

    She should have explained herself more in her post on here about my “weird” ness.

  146. hrm's mom says:

    I think you are right, she did make it sound like the “weird”ness was a little more than what it was. Just by mentioning it along with the other information and being very cryptic about it. I can also understand why she would be worried since it happened at the same time you were banned. Honestly I remember when you got banned and joined CDN and one of your very first posts was trying to get see if people knew how to help you finish your transactions on DS. You were very worried about making sure that the transactions were finished properly.

  147. amessymama says:

    146-I remember that too.

  148. žába says:

    I wasn’t on or at least wasn’t active on CDN at that time, so I never saw your posts there about trans. pending. Either way you had my email and could have taken the time to contact me. What you were and weren’t banned for doesn’t really have anything to do with it. Had you just told me what was going on I would have been fine with you sending my package out regular mail, shit you could have sent it by a pack mule and I would have been fine with it if you had just talked to me. You got banned, how was I supposed to know that you weren’t going to leave DS in a blaze of glory and just say FU all. You only told me that you were having issues with sending out things to the wrong people AFTER I followed up with you about where my stuff was. Days after that you still hadn’t mailed out the package or emailed me to explain why not. What would you have thought about a seller if you had been in my position? Seeing that you express mailed it and I did feel bad that you spent that much to mail it, I choose not to leave you any feedback, as I thought even neutral might keep you from ever being reinstated on DS. Your current attitude makes me reconsider if that was the right decision though 😦

    I am sorry that I was too vague in my original post, but you need to back off with the attitude like your shit don’t stink. You have to know that you have had transactions that didn’t go as smoothly as they could have.

  149. pissedoff24 says:

    Really? LOL..you want to give me negative feedback? Are you for real?

  150. monkey says:

    #146

    I also remember that.

  151. Thud says:

    pissed~ chill.
    Seriously.
    Your over the top reaction is way worse than someone saying they a had a weird transaction with you.

    Re-read post # 137. TWICE you say to the buyer that if they had asked you (or ‘bothered to ask you’) they would have known what was going on with you.

    So stuff your wtf and try and keep straight your own words~ you *did* tell the buyer she should have asked and therefore indicated it was her failure to ask you that created the ‘weirdness’.

  152. Just Peachy says:

    Nothing should’ve been said in the first place about the weirdness. I mean zaba wtf did you expect really? Obviously she can’t change the fact she didn’t contact you and she overnighted her package. Wtf do you want her to get on her knees and beg your forgiveness?

  153. DSDM2 says:

    126, you are right, she deserves whatever she gets. Leave feedback people, come on. PROTECT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND STOP BEING PUSSIES.

  154. Just Plain Me says:

    mmspirit7, try AMH. http://www.amomshideout.com

  155. pissedoff24 says:

    She should have asked me on HERE what happened….or anywhere else. She never asked, just made some cryptic post on here making me seem like a scammer. But hey, glad to see she’s brought you by as her personal panty-wearer.

  156. mmspirit7 says:

    peach thanks

  157. Lolanae says:

    Pissed –

    Why should your buyer’s HAVE to ask you? Why couldn’t you be a good seller and keep them informed of the delays? I know you were banned at the time over at DS, but you did have the email addresses of your buyer’s thanks to paypal. You could have emailed them all with “Hey, there has been a slightly delay, so sorry.”

    Or am I wrong? I know when I sell, I keep my buyer’s up to date, especially if I will be delayed in shipping.

  158. pissedoff24 says:

    Um, no…hers was the only one that had the delay that it did when I was banned. Or I would have overnighted ALL of the packages. And I meant on HERE to ask. Not then, NOW. Just to post that she had some “weird”ness with me made it sound like I was a scammer. Either elaborate, ask what happened (since she had me here already) or don’t comment. Don’t be cryptic and try to make someone out to seem like a bad seller.

  159. Thud says:

    pissed~ my dear, I am not anyone’s panty wearer, just an objective outsider who thinks you have gone a little ape shit over something very minor. I agree, that she shouldn’t have said anything here, but I also think you are being unreasonable in making it a buyer’s issue that YOU made no contact about a delay.

  160. pissedoff24 says:

    At that point, I had no idea who got what with 11 transactions going on. I emailed Juan about this and in return I got this:

    Sami,

    I will post on your profile and ask them to PM me about contacting you. Once they do, I will pass them on to your email address. This should make communication between both parties easier.

    ——————————–

    And then I couldn’t reach ONE of the mamas who I did have an email addy for and wrote him this:

    Juan, would you please PM beansmom on the board and tell her I have been trying to reach her by email for 3 days now and she hasn’t responded but sent an email today acting as if I hadn’t contacted her?

    I am guessing maybe my emails are going to her junk/spam folder.

    Thank you,
    Sami

    ————————————–

    All I’m saying is that before calling the transaction “weird”, mention it differently here (knowing I’m here and available) and wait for my response. Don’t try to damage my seller’s reputation by saying you had some weird transaction in which I made right. I was clearly already upset over Joy’s situation and that was the straw that broke the camel’s back, ykwim?

  161. Just Peachy says:

    Thud maybe it seems ape shit but considering she intends to continue to buy and sell online I can see why she would get upset about someone trying to imply she is a scammer of sorts. I would be quite infuriated myself.

  162. roobug says:

    pissed – you were in the wrong and it seems it was a wierd transaction. What would you call a transaction where the buyer sent out TWO packages to the wrong people??? How is that not the sellers problem to fix all the way around? You should have emailed all parties involved – and I don’t buy that there were to many going out to keep it all straight. If you are selling and sending out packages YOU are responsible to make sure they go to the right place. The buyer has not responsiblity in that. And while it’s great that you overnighted it, it is only your fault that you were out the money. And it is a wierd transaction.

  163. Lurker says:

    Look, I am just a regular lurker and just want to post that I think pissed has been way out of line. Based on DS only, I’ve always liked her and her posts and would have bought from her, even after any comments from zaba. Its been her response to that post that is making me think twice about entering any transactions with her. I think she’s a bit crazy.

  164. pissedoff24 says:

    roobug, did you actually read what I said?

    I mixed up two packages out of the 11 transactions that were going on at the time. They were mislabeled. It. Happens. I have been on the TAIL end of that 2 times before as well.

    As a result, Zaba’s package was delayed while I waited for hers to come back to me from the mama who received it by accident.

    Where in the hell did I say it was ZABA’S responsibility? Nowhere. I said that if it was such an issue for her, instead of being cryptic about how “weird” it all was, mention what happened in its entirety. Where am I blaming her for anything? I’m not.

    Do I need to seriously beg for forgiveness for the minor (in the grand scheme of life, not diaperland drama) mixup? So she had to wait a week for a package that ended up being overnighted to her. Its okay to go ahead and try to ruin any attempts (after over 300 perfect transactions) for me to sell more things by dropping some cryptic message about me? Sorry, that’s

    Lurker… If you can’t understand why I’d be fuming mad that after Joibella posted what she did about me and then someone comes along and says something negative as well (and doesn’t even elaborate on it)…WHILE I’m still doing transactions with people who might get nervous or might decide to NOT b/s/t with me, I can’t help you there. And LOL at calling me crazy.

    I am more pissed off that I got sucked into this ridiculous bullshit that I said I would never get sucked into.

    I should have never posted a fucking thing on DS again…just kept back at CDN and been happy.

  165. Thud says:

    Pissed I understand that you are saying you *meant* she should have asked on here. However, that is NOT what you *said* and then you flipped your lid over myself (and clearly others) not understanding what you *meant* when it was not what you *wrote*. We can only go by what you wrote here~ you really can’t freak out on people for not knowing you in fact meant something else entirely, kwim?

    Peachy~ I can see that 🙂 But I am talking entirely about the reactions here~ the freaking on people for calling her on what she actually wrote.

  166. danuv says:

    Certainly sounds like a “weird” transaction to me and Pissed’s reaction is even weirder.

  167. mmspirit7 says:

    i see both sides of this. and well i think it’s time to just walk away

  168. Kimbella says:

    Hyenacart store asking for “personal” PP payments:

    http://hyenacart.com/jbaskc/

    “If you’ll be paying by funded PayPal, please add things to your cart & checkout, but don’t pay, email me & I’ll invoice you from my personal account, or you can just send funded (marked as personal & please include your shipping address in the notes) to jbask@psci.net. If you’re paying by credit card, just go ahead & do the complete checkout process. “

  169. pippen says:

    168…she’s asking to be scammed

  170. Kimbella says:

    Or else she’s going to scam people. I ordered something from her back in June, and heard nothing after I paid until 28 days after I filed a PP dispute, which is when she finally shipped the instock item.

    fwiw, the longies I bought were not sewn well, and I think she used cotton thread. I plan to resew all of the seams when I find the time.

  171. Incognizable says:

    @166 I agree danuv. wierd is correct.

  172. Sharpie says:

    This reminds me Zum Design Company, she has no feedback on her HC called lovies and is asking for donations. Hope I’m wrong but this just doesn’t feel right:

    I have come across a sweet mama that lives in Alaska. She and her family lost everything in a house fire. I am desperately trying to help but shipping to alaska is outrageous!! She has 3 kids and a husband. I am asking for donations to help with either a shipping cost (60-110 dollars depending on box size) or I may get her her stuff online at walmart and have it site to store shipped there. Any bit helps. I am not asking for much. Any that you can spare for this family would be great!! And Prayers as well!! Thank You!!
    Kasaundra

    *note* I had a “Donate” button from paypal but it is HTML and I have no clue how to add it on here. so what I did is put 1.00 donation to add to cart. and there are 100 available. say you wanted to donate 10 dollars, you may do that by adding 10 1.00 to your cart. I hope that makes sence!!

    *100% of these donations WILL be towards helping out this family and a reciept can be shown if needed!

  173. anAKmama says:

    Shipping to AK is only unreasonable if you try to ship UPS or Fed Ex. I’ve had very large packages shipped to me through USPS for perfectly reasonable prices.

    I can see MAYBE if the mama was in rural Alaska, but it still sounds very fishy to me.

  174. anAKmama says:

    Oh, and there is no site to store shipping to our Wal Marts.

  175. moxy says:

    Lovies is Zum Design? Where do you see that? If they’re the same, definitely steer clear– Zum Design is a major scammer, see here: http://hyenacart.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=96063

  176. Sharpie says:

    I didn’t say the were Zum, just that it reminds me of Zum. Running “charity” type things out of her cart was how she scammed most of those people. I just find it really suspicious that someone with no feedback is doing the same type of thing on their HC for an anonymous family.

  177. monkey says:

    #172 I got screwed on the Zum Design thing. I bought 2 $5 raffle tickets. I’m way more careful about donating now.

  178. moxy says:

    174 Gotcha

  179. piratebaby says:

    Hmm….seems like there was a freecycle posting about a family with 3 kids losing everything in a fire and looking for donations not too long ago. Only problem is that there was no record of a home fire, Red Cross had no knowledge of the family, etc. Ak is a large area, but the population is tiny, so if this had been true SOMEONE would have known about it. It was very suspicious and several ppl flagged it. Just seems odd that there would be such a similar charity posting….. oh, and Walmart does NOT ship site-store up here and shipping isn’t that crazy either.

  180. DSDM2 says:

    Wasn’t there an mom on DS who scammed people about a housefire a few years back?

  181. Sharpie says:

    She’s taken the listing for her “charity” giving down.

  182. Bloggitybloggity says:

    MoNsTeR cHeCk….

  183. Bloggitybloggity says:

    Woot! Still the same. My purple lady is awesome 😀

  184. werd says:

    MESSY – I hope you are reading the blog still. I got my stuff today, THANKS SO MUCH!! DD will love it all!!!

    I’m staying away from CDN for the time being, too hormonal and emotional so I hope you can see this!!

  185. Messy says:

    Oh cool Werd!!! Yeah, I still read over here! I am such a freaking scatter brain that I totally still forgot to PM you the dang DC# ROFL! I’m so happy you like it! The backpack had your dd’s name all over it, I totally thought of her and Neice when I saw them :oD

  186. Messy says:

    smilie fail I see… Let’s try again 😀

  187. Messy says:

    Ah! Ok! Much better LOL!

  188. altaem says:

    Okay, so this has probably been covered…

    Does WOT give you all red for DS? Has anyone had issues on a Mac? Just got a brand new computer and I don’t want to give it e-herpes.

  189. žába says:

    I’m not sure if those are even worth paying shipping for.

  190. me says:

    I think that is just a really bad pic. It’s pretty even on the legs if you count the rows.

    Now someone actually posting that for the pic on a listing? I can’t begin to explain that!

  191. Just Peachy says:

    They actually aren’t even. It looks like her tension changed from one leg to the other. She could’ve fixed it by blocking it properly if she actually cared.

  192. Messy says:

    Awesome! Now those that think Connorsmama’s interlock is great stuff, now have a crochet woolie version to rotate with!!! Yeah for them!
    :puke:

  193. me says:

    I mean the amount of rows. The pic makes it look like they should be different. I figured out the tension problem but on first glance it looks like one was made shorter by not counting right if you don’t know how to look.

  194. me says:

    I still think it is way more the pic though.

  195. hrm's mom says:

    OMG that poor wool!

  196. jenniferjunniper says:

    Messy are you on?? If so, pop on over to CDN real quick!! I need your addy!!! Hurry, I will be leaving in about 15 minutes to pic up my ds!

  197. bored says:

    Where’s all the new drama?!?!

  198. eeek says:

    On CDN they just posted this:
    http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=840282

    & they’re wondering if it is IAS.

    I’m not willing to actually go into DS right now though so I haven’t read most of it, it might be drama. Or it might just be nothin’…….Plus, I think IAS could at least sew, she was really just mostly crazy so I doubt it was her.

  199. cdc3030 says:

    http://hyenacart.com/prod_details.php?id=10132&vid=3255

    FFS? Is it really that expensive to ship from canada?

  200. naturalmamadot says:

    what? 5 bucks? I just shipped infant jeans and 3 t shirts it ended up being 5 bucks within the us. That doesnt seem high

  201. cdc3030 says:

    Doesnt it say $8?

  202. cdc3030 says:

    For one diaper or am I crazy.

  203. cdc3030 says:

    Not crazy, just stupid. Wrong link.

    http://hyenacart.com/luvabum/index.php?p=28064

  204. žába says:

    one diaper? I am seeing a sweater and hat set, with $4.50 shipping.

  205. žába says:

    oh, now I see..yeah $8 does seem a little high for shipping, guess it’s not so “free”

  206. magpiedpiper says:

    I didn’t enter those FFS drawings because no way is $8 really shipping only. She had a few things supposedly FFS that seemed high.

  207. Thud says:

    204~ thatis accurate.
    It won’t fit through the 20 mm slot which would make it $4.90
    Meaning it goes small packet air~ and 0-500g will be $6.80 to the USA, probably any where from $7 – 14 WITHIN Canada and likely $8-10 to Europe.

    Oh how I hate the snarking about shipping from Canada.

  208. Thud says:

    to clarify, it would have to fit through the slot to be $4.890~ it won’t so the lowest rate is $6.80.

  209. cdc3030 says:

    sux to be canadian.

  210. Thud says:

    not as much as it sux to hear the Americans bitch about how they are being ripped off by the Canadians LMAO

  211. Sharpie says:

    True that Thud! LOL

  212. Katherine Sullivan says:

    You certainly deserve a round of applause for your post and more Specifically, your blog in general. Very high quality material.

  213. cdc3030 says:

    I just cant believe it costs more to ship inside canada than to the US. That is like a tarif against canadian products! Silly canadians.

  214. madeira says:

    no, silly Canada Post!

  215. cdc3030 says:

    indeed.

  216. monkey says:

    OMG. Has anyone seen this? Make sure you read it all. I left a comment warning new cd’ers away from DS or at least advising them to come here so they know what they’re getting into.

    http://clothdiapermamas.com/deciphering-diaper-swappers/comment-page-1/#comment-816

  217. zosiasmama says:

    I commented on that too Monkey.

    I want to get the word out any where we can that DS does regualrly have viruses and malware and that they do harbor scammers.

  218. werd says:

    wow, who is JustMe on that page? They majorly slammed CDN and have NO clue how DS really works… Lee?! Is that you?!?!

  219. magpiedpiper says:

    Thud – thanks for the clarification. I admit I actually failed to notice that it was coming from Canada, so my bad there.

  220. BetterKnownAsMommy says:

    Jackie, could you please email me @ momma121502@msn.com? I pm’ed you about your FSOT over at CDN but just figured out that you are taking a break. If you are still interested in getting a couple things off your hands, I’m dyinggggg for your Poodle Costume. Thank you!! :-*

  221. werd says:

    emailed you!

  222. nu says:

    Has to be Lee—-he said “a bunch of women”—something like that….most (if not 99.99%) would say “mamas” or the like.

    Now I know why the ads always seemed to be on what I searched. Thanks for saying that Werd!

    I’m staying away from DS. Our computer got a nasty virus and we really don’t have a few extra HUNDRED $$$ to get it fixed!

  223. nu says:

    I mean, it had a virus…I don’t want another one!

  224. roobug says:

    to be fair there were a couple of people who posted that CDN had a lot of bad language and sexual innuendos, and are mean. So while one might be Lee I doubt both are.

  225. monkey says:

    #225

    The opt in forums on CDN are RAUNCHY… but you don’t have to join those. The thing is… I’m not saying, “Join CDN” in my comment on there, I’m saying, “Be aware of the DS problems and KNOW that there are alternatives.”

  226. mom24babes says:

    Uh, not ALL the opt in forums at CDN are raunchy.

  227. monkey says:

    #227

    You’re right. 🙂 I should have been more specific.

  228. try me, i'm new! says:

    http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=841034

    suspicious – brand new mama, no other posts, wants to sell a huge lot of diapers, no price marked, stock picture used. Bunch of new mamas wanting the dipes, asking for price and/or feedback, no response over a few days. Seller is too new to know to respond to her thread when asked questions, but somehow knows how to post the little thumbnail pic next to her listing?

  229. naturalmamadot says:

    weird, I emailed one of the responders, I recognize her sn from another site, dont want her to get scammed, Im gonna let her know about the blog as soon as she emails me back

  230. mom24babes says:

    The pic is really weird, too!

    It’s ok, monkey, I’m sorry I sounded so short, the kids are already on my last nerve today and it’s not even noon yet!

  231. Schmoopie says:

    Will anyone here tell me about some Goodmama Drama?

    What is the “story” with

    1. Shikoneko? Queen scalper?

    2. eppah and the embroidery debaucle

    3. Why is Barbles SUCH a bitch

    4. How did those mods get to be mods and how are they paid??

  232. monkey says:

    #231

    I know the feeling! 🙂 My son used HIS toothbrush to brush the dogs teeth today.

  233. amessymama says:

    229-They need to check the IP of the OP and jessi4jc. I think these are both her. She has 2 negs, she was the first to post, she knows where the pics came from. And I get that little tingly scammerific feeling about her.

  234. amessymama says:

    Of course, my scamdar may be off and I could be wrong.

    Just wanted to put that out there. 🙂

  235. DSDM2 says:

    I think it is really strange how many new members replied to that thread. I’m betting that your scam-dar is working perfectly.

  236. me says:

    229-She could also post on another board. FSOT and the setup like that isn’t DS specific!

    It does seem weird though, especially the stock pics.

  237. monkey says:

    #232

    All I can tell you is that those diapers make women go bug farking nuts. I don’t know what it is…

  238. BffMama says:

    217. That kinda sounds like Crazy Tiffany posting as ‘just me’

  239. Marilyn says:

    Ah ha! Heh.. I wondered where all the comments were coming from. If I were at home instead of out of town, I probably would have figured it out sooner. 😉

    Looking back I should have included a disclaimer about DS as I know all the arguments against it. I was simply answering a question a reader had emailed me and was trying to be as specific as possible.

    I do plan to write a post explaining some of this when I get back home and have the use of my computer. Anyhow, I really do appreciate some of the comments, it has been an interesting discussion! (and has kept me entertained reading them all from my iPhone!)

  240. amessymama says:

    OH my!! Did you all see *this* post from Taz over on the Clothdiapermamas site.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Taz
    September 26th, 2009 on 6:47 pm
    I have been on diaperswappers for over 3 years and in all honesty these post have GREATLY embellished things.
    If you check out that ‘drama of diaper swappers’ site https://thedramaofdiaperswappers.wordpress.com/, you will quickly see that this is a group of very spiteful, vindictive, disgruntled women (many of them have been banned from diaperswappers might I add) that gather together to intentionally cause trouble for diaperwappers. They sit around all day long waiting for something to pounce on and post hundreds of comments using vile language for hours. I have to wonder where their kiddos are when they are busy posting their profanities all day long?
    Please, before making any decisions, just check it for yourself and you will quickly see that ALL of these negative comments have come from people on their site. (they like to plan these little attacks on diaperswappers as a group as you will see). I sincerely hope that diaperswappers will look into suing the website for harassment and slander.
    Now, to set the TRUTHFUL record straight on diaperswappers. As with Ebay, you should always check the sellers feedback, the length of time they have been a member and even their posts before just jumping in a transaction. If you are ever in doubt, you should contact a moderator to ASK if you are unsure about it. USE common sense. That site has well over 70 THOUSAND members. They have VOLUNTEER moderators that dedicate A LOT of time to help keep scammers OFF their site. From what I have always seen, they do the best they can to keep their site as family-friendly as possibly. They do not want drama and scammers.period. I am glad they do all they can to make their site as safe as possible. I do NOT recommend cloth diaper nation as many of them are the rejects and current members of the drama site.
    As far as viruses go, I have reason to believe it is yet another tactic to try to discredit diaperswappers. In over 3 years I have absolutely NEVER had even one attempt of a virus from their site. I have used 3 different computers at times to access their site and never once have I had a problem. I do use firefox and I do have virus protection, but it has never notified of anything going on. I suppose anything is possible, but coming from this group of women I have to think that it’s yet another tactic of theirs.
    Please read the sites and use your own judgement.. diaperswappers.com is awesome and I have met the nicest people and bought some amazing diapers at great prices!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    And she says we’re spiteful, vindictive and disgruntled?! We’re also rejects.

    Which mod do you think she is?

  241. The OTHER Megan says:

    WERD! Just wanted to give you a shout-out, and tell you I pink-sparkly-heart you. Hope you’re feeling okay. ;-*

    217- Um, yeah, I absolutely ADORED the old stand-by call-out about us being nothing but vindictive, maniacal, DS-haters who neglect our children. Always good for a laugh.

    *DSDM- DH defragged the computer. I apologize if the new screen name I had to pick last time isn’t the same as this one. :-X

  242. monkey says:

    You’re a reject! The whole, “Oh you’re out to get DS” thing really annoys me. I don’t have some vendetta against DS, I’m not banned (hell, I’ve only ever gotten one strike), but I cannot in good conscience let new cd’ers go there without some sort of warning. There are numerous other sites that won’t give you the e-herpes.

  243. melmelly says:

    Schmoopie- I will try to answer your questions just from what I know off of livejournal. I haven’t frequented anything GM related in a long time. I sold off all of mine earlier this year, and the forum is too much squeepee for me. lol

    1. Shikoneko? Queen scalper?
    **What I know of her from lj is that she did have two homes, one in the US, and the other in the Caribbean (i think). She would be in one place for one month, and the other for another month. Because of all the back and forth, she had to have two diaper stashes so she wouldn’t have to pack a stash with her. She has five sons, and I know she has two or three from her first marriage. They live in the Caribbean with their dad because of a nasty custody dispute. All of this info that I have is from June 2008 and earlier, so nothing current.

    I know that she was harassed in the GM lj community, but don’t know what for and when (only that it was sometime around July-Sept 2008) because the posts were removed. She is the one that actually created the community and was a mod/maintainer. She then added Suzanne and several others as mods, etc.

    I haven’t heard the whole thing about why she would be considered a “scalper”, but she was one of the few that would pay $200-300+ for ONE diaper when it was up for auction on HC. Suzanne talked to HC about having the names removed from the bid list because people would just bid to see how high Shikoneko would go.

    2. eppah and the embroidery debaucle
    **I think this info can be found in several lj diaper_drama community posts. Unless I am thinking of someone else.

    3. Why is Barbles SUCH a bitch
    **I don’t think she is a bitch, but I think a lot of people think she is because of how her personality comes across. But then again, I only know from lj, not TGMF. I actually like her and am “online friends” with her, so maybe I am just not seeing the “bitch” that everyone refers to.

    4. How did those mods get to be mods and how are they paid??
    **I know some of the people are really good lj friends with Suzanne, like Jess and Amanda. Cakemaven was right up there behind Shikoneko on the $$$ that was spent on diapers last year. Always kissing Suzanne’s ass for whatever. I tried to like cakemaven, but she is too much of a “I live in an expensive gated community in SoCal and I SAH with my three boys and make cakes, homeschool the boys, and we love God” kind of in-your-face kind of person.

    I have heard that they are paid in diapers.

    Does any of that help?

  244. turkey lurkey says:

    So, how many orders did the PO lose, exactly? I’m confused.
    http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?p=8498019#post8498019

  245. mom24babes says:

    #245 maybe we’ll find out since I asked her LOL

  246. monkey says:

    #240

    I just wanted to make sure you know this wasn’t an attack on you. It was a well-written article and your FSOT guides are great for ANY site. I just felt that other mamas should be warned about the potential issues and about how to protect themselves win B/S/T (not just on DS, but anywhere). Thanks for responding!

  247. Marilyn says:

    #247

    No worries, I knew it wasn’t… but I also wanted to put out there that I was aware of all this and say “my bad” for not putting a DS disclaimer on that post. DS definitely does have it’s faults and I’m very glad I spend the majority of my social time on another board altogether.

  248. žába says:

    248 – I was wondering when this would come up, and who it is too.

  249. Foo-man-choo says:

    LOL! – I love how the seller has made sure her brand word is copyrighted, but the fact that she is copying someone else’s artwork has escaped her attention.

    http://hyenacart.com/prod_details.php?id=91320&vid=2873

    And I love this very detailed description:
    http://hyenacart.com/prod_details_auction.php?id=19087&vid=2873

    Her little one is cute, but does she really have her son try on all of the diapers before she ships them out? Not cool. I have always put brand new diapers on L without pre-washing. I would be so grossed out if I knew that a baby, unbeknownst to me, had tried on my child’s brand new diaper, then it had been put in a package and mailed to me **without being washed.** gag.

  250. myra says:

    You don’t want to pay $18 for a cursed, admittedly jacked up and redone, tried-on-someone-else’s-kid’s-junk diaper?

  251. Foo-man-choo says:

    Well, when you put it that way…ROFL!

    sigh, what a mess.

  252. žába says:

    “You don’t want to pay $18 for a cursed, admittedly jacked up and redone, tried-on-someone-else’s-kid’s-junk diaper?”

    LOL exactly! I think that was just way TMI.

  253. me says:

    251- Patriotic colors? Neon green and blue are patriotic? Where?

  254. me says:

    Hey why am I in moderation?

  255. DSDM2 says:

    Not sure. Checking now.

  256. kiwi says:

    She lost me at ‘sudel.’

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