http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=364483

zosiasmama

03-14-2008 06:18 AM


Ok so Kim was allowed back…what about the others who were banned trying…

to bring light to the unfortunate situation?

I know that some were banned for using foul language or saying rude things. But I said things like that too and then held my toungue. It was very hard for many of us to just sit idly by and keep our mouths shut when we knew in our hearts that an injustice had been done. Many of the mama’s that were banned did so not with an intention of offending Lee, but rather to say what needed to be said, although their words and tactics may have been off at the time (but understandable given the heated situation). I can still understand their anger it was hard to control for all of us, including Lee who was also a bit rude in the midst of it all.

So my question is this….what about them?
Will they also be given a clean slate?
For almost all of them that was their one and only infraction, where as Kim had several.
So the logic seems to show that they should also be given the reprieve and a chance to start over.

I would really appreciate an answer to this and not have it deleted, it is bound to come up one way or another so we might as well deal with it now.

Thank you, Danni

I also ask that if you plan to post here please keep it civil without snark! :thumbsup:

So, now people are stepping up and trying to do something to help others that got smacked down in the fall out. Unfortunately, Lee’s not much help in this matter. And his mods have chimed in to say he’s given the “final ruling” and “the decision has been made.” So for all those who were banned, and still don’t know why, here is Lee’s explanation. It’s a one size fits all explanation for your banning, and nothing is going to change.

Lee

03-14-2008 02:45 PM


Re: Ok so Kim was allowed back…what about the others who were banned trying…

Here is my sincere explanation. Kim was banned in accordance with our old rules and she got the bad end of being our first ban following the old rules. It wasn’t wrong of us to do that and we weren’t trying to pick on her, she was just the first. it was bad timing and ending up being trouble as we have seen.

The mamas that got banned once the new rules took effect were banned for a completely different reason. They were also banned after the new rules were in place and the announcement was made. These mamas weren’t banned because of a technical violation like a siggy rule violation. They were banned for not being able to control themselves, spreading filth across DS, spreading lies, stirring up trouble, sending PM spam, using vulgar language, and hurting many sincere members of this community. You have no idea the number of PMs I received during that 2 day period from confused, insulted, upset mamas that could understand why these mamas were acting in this way. Many of you didn’t see all of what the DS staff team saw. I am glad you didn’t as it was sickening and sad. These actions will never be tolerated on DS. These bannings will not be reversed.

Lee

03-14-2008 03:00 PM


Re: Ok so Kim was allowed back…what about the others who were banned trying…

We did put a reason in some sigs and may have missed some. That is something we may do but it isn’t a high priority. If they want to know why, they can read this thread or some of the other posts I have made with clarification.

Lee

03-15-2008 08:43 AM


Re: Ok so Kim was allowed back…what about the others who were banned trying…

Quote:


Originally Posted by zosiasmama (Post 3044199)

I am very sad to hear this Lee. You made the rules, posted them and then expected everyone to understand them, not questions them (even though some were just absurd and ridiculous to follow) and then banned people for not following them. All of this within a few short hours.
Seems to me like you were trying to set some of us up for failure.

Very sad IMO, that is why I asked the question here. It does not seem right that a person with so many strikes against her (Kim) would be just wiped clean even though she has so many over such a long time, but someone who broke one NEW (several hard to accept and unfair) rule would be bannished forever.


I don’t think you are ever going to fully agree. These ladies didn’t break some technical rule like Kim did. The didn’t just act in “heat of the moment” anger either. This was planned, pre-meditated attempts to hurt DS. You can think I am harsh or making things up, but I know EXACTLY what went on during those two days, exactly. I have also received an abundance of communication and feedback to confirm all I know. What more is there to explain…you continued questioning isn’t going to bring a new detail to light as I have shared openly and honestly why I did what I did. I know several mamas that don’t like my decision, but I know a whole lot more that do and are very supportive of my efforts to rid DS of these hateful mamas that would only like to damage this great community. Please don’t expect more of an answer as I have been stating the same reasoning all along and posted it in multiple threads. I have nothing to hide.

cowmommy

03-15-2008 09:51 AM


Re: Ok so Kim was allowed back…what about the others who were banned trying…

Quote:


Originally Posted by Granny’s Woolies (Post 3045363)

Well said. I hope Lee takes all this into consideration and eats some crow.


Lee already responded with the final ruling on this

Quote:


Originally Posted by Lee (Post 3045011)

I don’t think you are ever going to fully agree. These ladies didn’t break some technical rule like Kim did. The didn’t just act in “heat of the moment” anger either. This was planned, pre-meditated attempts to hurt DS. You can think I am harsh or making things up, but I know EXACTLY what went on during those two days, exactly. I have also received an abundance of communication and feedback to confirm all I know. What more is there to explain…you continued questioning isn’t going to bring a new detail to light as I have shared openly and honestly why I did what I did. I know several mamas that don’t like my decision, but I know a whole lot more that do and are very supportive of my efforts to rid DS of these hateful mamas that would only like to damage this great community. Please don’t expect more of an answer as I have been stating the same reasoning all along and posted it in multiple threads. I have nothing to hide.


mum2dandcait

03-15-2008 09:57 AM


Re: Ok so Kim was allowed back…what about the others who were banned trying…

Quote:


Originally Posted by Lee (Post 3045011)

I don’t think you are ever going to fully agree. These ladies didn’t break some technical rule like Kim did. The didn’t just act in “heat of the moment” anger either. This was planned, pre-meditated attempts to hurt DS. You can think I am harsh or making things up, but I know EXACTLY what went on during those two days, exactly. I have also received an abundance of communication and feedback to confirm all I know. What more is there to explain…you continued questioning isn’t going to bring a new detail to light as I have shared openly and honestly why I did what I did. I know several mamas that don’t like my decision, but I know a whole lot more that do and are very supportive of my efforts to rid DS of these hateful mamas that would only like to damage this great community. Please don’t expect more of an answer as I have been stating the same reasoning all along and posted it in multiple threads. I have nothing to hide.


Treading lightly here Lee, but the bolded phrase above is a little disturbing. The ladies that came here came here as a direct result of Kim’s begging on other forums to not allow DS to get away with banning her. These women came to her defense for what they felt was a bogus banning of a long standing DS member who had just suffered a loss. Sure, things got out of control and heated but that is pretty much par for the course on forums.
Calling a group of people “hateful mamas” will do nothing but continue to fuel the fires and perpetuate the name calling and perceived hatred. Many of the most disturbing comments didn’t even come from the evil board, we aren’t all out to get DS.
Bleh, I don’t know…I just think it really sucks to have some of my friends referred to as “hateful” on a public forum by a board owner. I’m not sure if it’s sad or infuriating.
That’s all, back to lurking.

And isn’t it funny that some of these “hateful mamas” were also site supporters? Some had given HIM money to support his site?

Sweet_Fantasy_Fox

03-15-2008 11:49 AM


Re: Ok so Kim was allowed back…what about the others who were banned trying…

Quote:


Originally Posted by Jubilee (Post 3045861)

I have been pretty quiet on this, and at one point in the poof thread, I was even beginning to get annoyed with the ladies who weren’t comprehending the rules. Despite the fact that the rules aren’t clearly defined, it was as if they were intentionally going out of their way to be difficult (which I’m sure they were. The whole thing was heated on all ends.)

That said, I think this is pretty bad wording…. “final ruling.” Does that imply that this discussion is over? I think there are more than “several hateful mamas” that would like more answers and explanations. Assuming the “hateful mamas” have all been banned, there are plenty of legitimate questions in this post.


The decison has been made, Lee answered truthfully and their really is no more to it. I am sorry some of you feel it’s not fair but the need to continue to ask the same questions that have been answered will not change what has been explained by Lee.

Harmony96

03-15-2008 12:03 PM


Re: Ok so Kim was allowed back…what about the others who were banned trying…

Quote:


Originally Posted by Lee (Post 3039659)

Many of you didn’t see all of what the DS staff team saw. I am glad you didn’t as it was sickening and sad.


You guys, I’ve read all of Lee’s posts in this thread, and this bit sticks out at me. He’s not telling us the gory details of what went down and what was said for OUR peace of mind. I am glad he’s not telling us. I don’t want to have to keep coming back to thinking about it and saying “wow, I can’t believe so-and-so and so-and-so could SAY something that horrendous.” Being an admin is a hard job w/ hard decisions. Lee made them. DS will ultimately be a better place as a result. But not until the dead horse that we’re all beating is buried and gone.

The solution to the dead horse problem is not to say, “I am the morning and evening star.” Had no one stood up to help Kim, she would still be banned, and a lot of others wouldn’t be. My peace of mind does NOT come from not knowing his real intentions or reasons behind banning people, like onlygirl.

tararaboomdeea

03-15-2008 12:45 PM


Re: Ok so Kim was allowed back…what about the others who were banned trying…

Quote:


Originally Posted by MamaOf3Cuties (Post 3036391)

i know onlygirl (cherie) was banned right off and never even given any strikes


I ♥ Cherie, and I don’t understand why she was banned. She posted 3 times on that thread, and nothing was out of line at all. She didn’t take sides at all. I was on that night at the same time she was, and I saw her posts. If I’m allowed to be honest, her posts pale in comparison to some of the other posts in that thread, and a lot of those people weren’t banned or given warnings.

Quote:


Originally Posted by Kelolsen-and-Padawan (Post 3045244)

Okay, I honestly want to know. Kim said some hateful things about you on other boards and asked for help. how is that different? this isn’t an “attack” on Kim. I just would like to know the double standard. not everyone who was banned were on the boards where she asked for help either. I honestly just want to know and I won’t pester or ask again. This is my one time asking.


It is a double standard. That’s all I’ll say about that. 😦

My Uncle used to tell me life ain’t a circus, either, when I’d say life isn’t fair. I guess that advice applies to this, too.

jabba

03-15-2008 12:58 PM


Re: Ok so Kim was allowed back…what about the others who were banned trying…

Quote:


Originally Posted by Sweet_Fantasy_Fox (Post 3046194)

The decison has been made, Lee answered truthfully and their really is no more to it. I am sorry some of you feel it’s not fair but the need to continue to ask the same questions that have been answered will not change what has been explained by Lee.


The problem is he’s answered a different question than the one that’s being asked.

Yes, ask the same questions, he will continue to answer a different question and claim you are pestering and questioning admin… you will find yourself banned.

cassondruh

03-15-2008 01:28 PM


Re: Ok so Kim was allowed back…what about the others who were banned trying…

onlygirl wasn’t a hateful mama, not that I ever saw… in fact, I think she brought a lot of light to the board with her good humor. I enjoyed reading her posts because she was funny and understanding. but I don’t think even she understands why she was banned. nor do I, not that it’s any of my business…
I don’t want to get caught up in drama, so I’m trying not to, but there are a lot of things that happened this week that really changed the community of this entire forum and my outlook…
I’m scared to speak up, honestly, because I am a WAHM, have a business reputation, and enjoy coming to this board for business as well as meeting/talking to knowledgeable mamas. I also come here when things along the home front aren’t going well, as I don’t have a close knit group of “real life” friends. as some of you know, there was a death in my family a couple weeks ago, and I took some time off from my business to focus on my baby girl and family. when I needed some “adult conversation” I came here, for the humor and the support.
some of the very people who were caring enough to help me to laugh during my hard time were banned, and they don’t even know why. I don’t either.
I doubt I’m saying anything different than what anything else has said already… but it does sadden me that the vibe seems to be “well, what’s gone on is over and done with” because I don’t feel that is true with some of the mamas who were banned without a real explanation.

the mamas who were out of line, were out of line, period. and it would be lack of common sense to think that they deserve an explanation (because I think inside, they know why they were banned)… but for the mamas who don’t know why, and were just at the wrong place at the wrong time…?
why wont their cases be revisited?
I’m sorry some innocent mamas were lumped into one big group. I hope in the future, that I don’t get lumped into a group, because there are a few mamas who I do enjoy talking with on here. But their actions are not mine. They are individuals, as am I….

but anyway. I’m losing my train of thought here… just wanted to point a few things out, as an innocent bystander. I guess.

tararaboomdeea

03-15-2008 03:56 PM


Re: Ok so Kim was allowed back…what about the others who were banned trying…

Quote:


I am glad Kim got to come back but I think EVERYONE else should get a 2nd chance. It does not seem fair or right to bring one member back and not the others.


I agree with that. I think the whole situation the other night just got out of hand, people got caught up in the moment, and everyone should be given the benefit of a clean slate, just like Kim did, minus the people that were banned because they were filling up PM boxes with SPAM. :2cents:

Unfortunately, clean slates aren’t extended to everyone… only those that drive traffic away from DS.

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Comments
  1. douchebagsayswhat? says:

    I truly appreciate the efforts of some of those mamas to have the bannings reversed. FTR, I didn’t spam any PM boxes.

    There are some stand-up people at DS, it just seem that none of them are the ones that actually RUN DS. 😦

  2. MN sunshine says:

    I am not a hateful mama, I know why I was banned, it was in the heat of the moment, but I wouldn’t take it back. I hope any person that was banned that regrets whatever is given the opportunity to return. However, I will not grovel at Lee’s feet begging for forgiveness and a second chance for pointing out his only interest(money). Oh and telling him to grow balls and deal with the mess he created (aka, stop deleting and locking threads because people are speaking out against his ‘rules’). Which by the way, had he of let everyone say what they wanted I don’t think it would have gotten as heated as it did. He fueled his own fire, which I find to be a (sarcastically) funny business mistake. DS is not THE ONLY place a mama can go for support, information and a FSOT. For those irritated with DS I hope they begin to support alternative forums rather than think they just have to deal with it.
    Also, for those that remain please be aware of who is running it and what you may be subjected to. A little reading on Lee’s past experiences will show how for one, he created a TM group to report to mod’s what was going on with the forum. This was in response to a large group that left one of his forums over some admin issues. Loss of people = Loss of money for Lee…

  3. onlygirl says:

    to everyone who mentioned me thank you so much but please let it go, i posted this over on kims thread and i didnt know this was here. i dont want anyone banned over me. so please let it go. i dont care if i am thought of as a “hatefull momma” i dont want any of you to lose your place at ds if thats where you want to be. so many of you that depend on income from ds, or have support systems there need to think of that first. i know that it isnt all about me, but the principle also. i would never ever be ok with someone bieng banned on my behalf. i know what my intentions and situation were and thats enough for me. i am more upset today over this than i was over bieng banned myself. i am really worried one or more of you will get banned over it. i was shocked to be honest at all the mentions i recieved and i again want to thank all of you for bieng so sweet. we all can continue to be in contact. there were many times i was sarcastic or a smartass and that could have contributed in the long run. i am ok with it. take the answer you were given and please leave it at that. cherie.

  4. Jennifer says:

    The only thing that annoys me about still being banned is the fact that it’s unbelievably hypocritical. I got banned around 11:44pm. Actually the comment from Lee that gave away that I was being banned was followed moments later by him saying banning would start the next day. Not more than 5 minutes later I was banned. So really I should be given a second chance then too right? All my indiscretions occurred before midnight.

    Really though, even if I was unbanned I wouldn’t go back. I wouldn’t want Lee to benefit from another post count from me. I’m sorry I gave him the first 4,000+. I’m simply amazed that people see what he’s done, continues to do, and are still supporting him.

    One day this will come back to bite them in the ass. Kim for backstabbing and her disrespect for those of us who did anything at all to help her. Lee for being a conniving slimy piece of work who is pulling the wool over the eyes of so many while profiting from them. It’s only time before his micro-management is going to screw him over.

  5. Molly says:

    This is what happens when I don’t go on diaperswappers for weeks. I mostly just lurked there anyway.

    Does anyone know how to get ahold of FerrFerr by any chance? I saw that she was banned in all of this mess.

    I live in her area and I’ve always wanted to say Hi and invite her for a playdate. Now I can’t even find a way to e-mail her.

  6. Kelolsen says:

    Its clear that Lee isn’t going to address anything further. IMHO its been made very clear that there was a double standard set for Kim. She said plenty of hateful things and rallied for help – that is deemed okay, but for others, its not. Sadly, I’m not surprised that we are not going to get any more details or answers. 😦

  7. Green~Mammy says:

    I didn’t say anything hateful I got one strike for my AV and then banned for posting the article. HOWEVER while I knew posting it would most likely end with my banning I did not break any of his new rules. It was not lewd and it contained no links.

    I do feel badly that people that just responded to the article got banned. That is the only thing that makes me wish I had not posted it. Other mommas got banned because of something I did, thats so wrong.

    I am not a hateful momma, I didn’t spam anyone either. I don’t even think anyone even notices I am gone since I flew under the radar over, there only buying things and occasionally posting. Sucks for me because I was just starting to sell diapers that my LO had outgrown BUT DS is not the only place on the internet to sell. I just have to build up my FB. (it was not that high anyway I mainly bought new because I can’t afford to get scammed and DS is having issues with that of late)

    I don’t want to go back but I do wish they would let the ones back that were banned just for saying “thats disturbing” or “thats scary”.

  8. Green~Mammy says:

    Molly you can find ferr ferr @ http://www.thebatgirls.com/index.php

  9. Molly says:

    Thanks Green~Mammy! 🙂

  10. onlygirl says:

    oh green mammy??? all of us that posted on that thread are grownups. i for one am really glad that you posted it. it was lee’s own words. you are not the one who should be feeling bad for anything here.

  11. zosiasmama says:

    Oh good God…now Kim has jumped into my thread…the one I was trying to do some good with and she’s all trying to make it about her. Will she ever stop.

  12. Yeah, I noticed that.

  13. DS Drama Mama 2 says:

    all about her and her miscarriage :insert eyes roll:

  14. onlygirl says:

    what did anyone expect??? of course it would be about her. not all the moms who had tons of posts and feedback built up. i am hearing about people with thousands of posts and tons of feedback that are banned. what a waste for them. now kim can do her little puffy prefold wahm business and life is good for her. thank god i have a 7 year old who can draw and cut out a tree for me.

  15. Kim says:

    SO is everyone going to give these mamas crap for going back to DS too?

  16. onlygirl says:

    oh i doubt it kim, i am asking people to not get banned over me. i dont want a big issue made. you on the other hand acted like a huge asshole. so its not likely anyone else will get any probs.

  17. Kim says:

    Right, and you mama, have been oh so kind to all. What does my HC have to do with anything? Why even go there? Seems awful childish to me.

  18. Kim says:

    And DSDM2, thanks again for the reference to my loss. That too, was very kind of you as well.

  19. zosiasmama says:

    No Kim, they won’t get shit for going back. You are not getting shit for going back. Understand this cuz it has been said multiple times:
    You are being grilled because when you went back you kissed Lee’s ass up and down and didn’t try to help or even acknowledge that people stuck their necks out for you!

    Not all the mama’s banned did that, yes some crossed the line, but many did not and you have continually just talked about yourself in all of this. That’s fine if that is how you are …well good for you. But the rest of us would not have went crawling back the way you did.

    If it were me I would have said, well Lee here’s the thing….there are a lot of people who are now in trouble because of this whole mess. So what about them? You did not do that and you even went so far as to renounce that they helped you! You went looking for them Kim!!!

    You asked them to come to your aid and who did you ask…MDC…uh NO…did you go to Ravelry…NO…you went to BG cuz you knew that they would have enough spark to actually affect a change.
    So they went and when you got asked back you thanked Lee all the way up his behind and did not acknowledge nor try to help the ones that fought for your return.
    That Kim, that is why you are getting shit and they will not.

  20. onlygirl says:

    i feel no need to be nice to you. i have no respect for you and look at you as a child so i speak to you as a child.

  21. Kim says:

    lol, okay onlygirl.

  22. mikanda says:

    Nice asskissing siggy over there Kim. You think that will help you when they decide to ban you in a month? Good luck with that.

  23. rsl says:

    hey kim can you and freaking ooey kiss lee’s ass anymore??!

    you KNEW what you were doing……you asked for help and got it and now you have shit on all those that have helped you. i am a banned mama who has been at ds longer then Lee (and probably even you) and have EXCELLENT fb. i wasnt even defending you bc yes i did AGREE with him that you were spamming your board like CRAZY every single chance you got and it gets old quick. instead i questioned how he handled it and the new rules in put in place, so i got banned for some BS reason.

  24. MarineWife says:

    I need a complete list of all th emams that were banned

    ohh and kim, stay away from my thread, your not wanted or welcome in the quest for other mamas.

  25. Kim says:

    Marine Mom, I DARE you to say that ON your thread…figures you would run here and say it….

    I do believe I can post anywhere on DS that I would like thank you very much.

  26. rsl says:

    kim you twat you damn know she wont/cant bc of lee..

  27. onlygirl says:

    keep em coming kim, you are vastly amusing. i am enjoying watching you step in your own shit over and over.

  28. Kim says:

    I can tell your enjoying this. That is quite obvious mama.

  29. onlygirl says:

    it is nice to see karma bite someone in the ass.

  30. zosiasmama says:

    So Kim you have nothing to say about my post? …very interesting since you seem to have such a hard time understanding why everyone is giving you shit…..i explained it compeltley to you.

  31. beegee says:

    Kim I felt bad for you before. But you are continuing to fuel the fire. You are obviously enjoying the drama surrounding you and your banning and unbanning. You’ve said your bit now why not do the grown up thing and walk away. You are seeming really mean spirited. And daring someone to post something against you makes it seem like your motives are totally selfish and that you want nothing more than all of this crap to continue.

  32. Kim says:

    But everyone else can come here and talk about me, but I am supposed to drop it? why is that okay.

  33. I'm Just Saying..... says:

    It was dying down until you opened your trap again Kim. Please, just leave and go exist in your delusions.

  34. zosiasmama says:

    Why Kim…Why??? Seriously? Because you turn everything around and make it about you. My thread, the one that this one is about, was not about you. But somehow it now is. You seem to do that a lot. You even asked if others would get shit like your getting and I explained and it what do you have to say?? Anything aboutmy explanation and them?? NO!!! Just more crap about yourself. That is just wrong.

  35. beegee says:

    Someone has to stop first. Do you want to keep the focus on you or do you want all of this to die down and the focus to be on any of the mommas that were wrongfully banned? You came back to this blog to a thread that you were barely mentioned. I’m sure that you are upset and grieving and have a lot on your mind given your personal tragedy. Surely you don’t need to keep things going here.

  36. SST says:

    Kim,

    Honestly, why do you keep coming back here? People are saying horrible things to and about you and you continue to sink lower and lower and now you’re making yourself look childish.

    Just walk away and stop adding fuel to the fire.

  37. Kim says:

    I did stop, for an entire day, came back to everyone talking horribly about me.

  38. onlygirl says:

    LOLOLOLOL she is just not in reality. kim you are a funny girl.

  39. I'm Just Saying..... says:

    Had you just stopped, it was dying down. But nope, you have to make everything about you.
    And you could have PM’d the info about Soggygranolamama or whatever her name is, but you chose instead to completely and totally disrespect the mama’s on that thread and to show them you are in control. Leave it alone Kim, you are just digging your hole deeper and deeper. You need to get off your high horse now. It really is time. The sooner you stop, the sooner it will die down.

  40. beegee says:

    Let it go Kim. Perhaps you are blinded by grief but you are not showing yourself in the positive light. You don’t seem to see that. The excuse that “she said it first” doesn’t excuse your behavior. You have hardly been mentioned today and the focus has been on Lee, potentially unjust bannings, and his bigotry. the fact that you can’t seem to stop yourself from bringing the focus back to you looks bad. If you can’t resist then why not just not visit the blog. You’re back on ds. You’ve got your friends and support. Leave it be.

  41. Kim says:

    SO everyone else is allowed to post names to the thread, but me?
    Im not digging a hole. AND I WILL NOT walk away from this. THERE IS NO EXCUSE for the things some of you have said to me. NONE. Why should I NOT take a stand for myself. Im not the only one that feels the way I do, there are MANY MANY MANY mamas on my side.

  42. beegee says:

    Oh and I meant to add: Just because you can do something, doesn’t mean you should.

  43. I'm Just Saying..... says:

    yes, everyone else is allowed except you. if you cared about these people you would have thanked them when you were welcomed back you would have never left them high and dry. yes, everyone but you is welcome in that thread. you were told that before you posted and you only posted to show the mamas in that thread up.

    And the reason you can’t take a stand for yourself is because (once again) you did not take a stand for those who stood up for you. get it through your thick skull. you will not win this one.

  44. zosiasmama says:

    Because the focus of the stand should not be you….it should be the other banned mama’s that are left without the DS support and now have no feedback in the diaper community. ….you know the mama’s that this whole thread is actually about.
    The others said it well, you are a master of turning everything around to make it about you….i am sickened.

    Read it here:
    IT IS NOT ABOUT KIM ANYMORE!!!!! Boo-Hoo suck it up and do the right thing for once.

  45. MarineWife says:

    I am going to make it my 2nd goal to get you rebanned Kim… watch everything you do on DS cause one slip and I will be lightning fast to report your bitch ass.

    I post it here becasue I am keeping the thread civil whih makes it more likely to be given merit.. .something you know nothing about.

  46. I'm Just Saying..... says:

    “I am going to make it my 2nd goal to get you rebanned Kim… watch everything you do on DS cause one slip and I will be lightning fast to report your bitch ass.”

    I don’t think you are alone in this.

  47. onlygirl says:

    i think you all are using words and concepts too big for kim to understand.

  48. beegee says:

    Kim you said some horrible things as well for which there are no excuses. I don’t know what positive outcome you’re expecting by dragging this out. I can only assume that you don’t want a positive outcome and only the drama. And, “Im not the only one that feels the way I do, there are MANY MANY MANY mamas on my side.” makes you sound like a 12 year old.
    You make me regret having stood up on your behalf and I apologize to the other mommas for that. I can see that this might be a pattern of behavior for you.

  49. onlygirl says:

    LOL “i have MANY MANY MANY of mama’s on my side” you just keep making my day over and over and over.

  50. Kim says:

    am going to make it my 2nd goal to get you rebanned Kim… watch everything you do on DS cause one slip and I will be lightning fast to report your bitch ass.

    Ohhhhh scary.

  51. mikanda says:

    So Kim, first you said that none of this was about you, now you claim all this is about you and you keep posting like it is all about you. I would suggest you make up your mind. O_o

  52. MarineWife says:

    you should be scared Kim…
    when a person has this many people pissed off at them bad things tend to happen… I love how Karma works…

  53. Kim says:

    You all are making it about me. Try to stop calling me names, making fun of my HC, and telling me that I used my loss for sympathy…maybe then I will stop posting here. Why don’t you all post on DS what you are saying here? Is it because you know it is wrong…???? hmmmm

  54. zosiasmama says:

    So very sad Kim that you STILL can not face what the real point is, you are still talking about you…pathetic.

    Are you ever going to say anything about what the real point of this thread is? Do you have the guts..the conscience to face it?

  55. onlygirl says:

    i am having fun making fun of your lack of awareness of the world around you. so no i will keep on keeping on. and i hope you do to, you have made me laugh more today than i have in a long time kim.

  56. DS Drama Mama 2 says:

    “And DSDM2, thanks again for the reference to my loss. That too, was very kind of you as well.”

    Kim, I didn’t mention it until you did. YOU brought it up in a thread that was NOT about YOU.

  57. zosiasmama says:

    “You all are making it about me. Try to stop calling me names, making fun of my HC, and telling me that I used my loss for sympathy…maybe then I will stop posting here. Why don’t you all post on DS what you are saying here? Is it because you know it is wrong…???? hmmmm”

    Well Boo-fucking Hoo!
    1 person like 25 posts ago said one thing about your HC, no one is mentioning your MC but you, we can’t post it on DS cuz we would be banned for being mean to Lee’s new ass decoration.

    Does that answer your question?

    Now for like the 20th time …..are you gonna face the point at hand or not/

  58. DS Drama Mama 2 says:

    Kim, why don’t YOU post the things you have said here there? hmmm? because they are equally against the DS rules?

    Go enjoy your short lived freedom.

    Oh and have fun washing your diapers.

  59. onlygirl says:

    new ass decoration LOL omg that was awesome.

  60. MarineWife says:

    can anyone tell me which other mamas did nothing really wrong?

  61. zosiasmama says:

    Ya know I was actually thinking that she may just suck it up and actually face the real point….but no Kim has no spine.

  62. KimsTwoFaced says:

    my prediction is that Kim will be banned again within a month. I think she will search the web high and low for a forum that will accept her, but will have no luck because she has pissed off every momma who is on the internet! maybe THEN she will learn the benefit of BGPs and what real class looks like.

  63. zosiasmama says:

    Ya mean klass…you know like Kims avi with a pacifier wrapped around a martini glass…..now that is true KLASS with a K!

  64. DS Drama Mama 2 says:

    Kim FYI, this has been brought up before, but DS is a public forum! So please, think before you post if you don’t want it here.

  65. Kim says:

    KTF, wrong…I have a site that I am a Mod at….so, no worries there.

    And my logo is awesome. It shows that you can be a woman and a mom at the same time.

  66. Kim says:

    So you all hate DS and the owner….and you are still there why?

  67. DS Drama Mama 2 says:

    Kim, you hated him too until he stroked your ego…. why are you still there?

  68. KimsTwoFaced says:

    kim’s done so many things that scream classy….is the k in klassy for kim? the martini paci is just one of many reasons! she should start her own forum about klassy mommas! she could give klass lessions…..because those of us who know how to spell class don’t have to lecture people on what it is! we just ARE!

  69. MarineWife says:

    I am only there till either I get banned or you do. cause then my job will be done

  70. zosiasmama says:

    Kim you are being asked to stop posting on another thread. That thread is the same as what this blog thread is about…and it is not you. So take your stupid ass PSA that no one gives a shit about and take it elsewhere…like to a post all about you and then you can be sooooo happy.

    Oh and I see you still can’t manage to talk about what the threads are really about…again…pathetic! but i have come to expect no less from you.

  71. Kim says:

    your all pathetic.

  72. Kim says:

    ~~~~~you’re~~~ sorry, typo police….lol

  73. onlygirl says:

    right now i am just lurking around to watch you fall flat on your ass.

  74. I'm Just Saying..... says:

    I don’t hate DS, I hate what Lee is forcing DS to become. I love so much about the place and that is what makes me so sad that people like you don’t get. It’s not black and white like some would like to believe. there is so much that I don’t want to lose there, but at the same time, there is so much I can’t tolerate either. wth don’t you get about that.

    And since you are entertaining the crowds (I have def laughed a few times), please continue with your poor me crap.

  75. beegee says:

    Is that a baby rattle in a martini glass? Connect the dots for me. How exactly does that show you can be a woman and a mom at the same time? What does being a mom have to do with drinkin’?

  76. KimsTwoFaced says:

    why would Kim post on a thread about helping the ladies who were banned in her defense? she’s already made it clear she doesn’t care and could have nothing to say that could benefit that cause.

  77. Birdie says:

    We all need to just ignore anything she says on those threads because she is TRYING to get them deleted and get more people banned. Don’t let her win, ladies. Don’t sink to her extremely low level. It’s not worth it! Say all you want to here, but keep it off of DS. I’d really hate to see anyone else get banned over her.

  78. MarineWife says:

    yeah.. .what birdie said

  79. DS Drama Mama 2 says:

    I agree Birdie. She is just “playing moderator” and reporting everyone else. Please keep things off DS if you can 🙂

  80. zosiasmama says:

    Good call ladies, well then for me it is off to bed! Night!

  81. onlygirl says:

    i personally dont want to be on that list at all bolded or otherwise for the record. i do not want to be a part of anyone else getting banned. its fun to mess with a crazy like kim on here but i dont want anyone else to get in any crap.

  82. zosiasmama says:

    Hey can I say one OT thing?
    When youall started this and said some shit about the night owl thread i wanted to throttle you, cuz honestly that whoel thing was a bunch of coincidence and misinformation. But you 2 are really cool and I for one and very glad that the drama bloggers are around! Thank for all your work.

  83. DS Drama Mama 2 says:

    LOL, thanks mama.

  84. Jena/lilyfish says:

    This infuriates me. I PMed Lee about these bannings, as well, in the fears that if I opened a thread, it would be deleted. I was given a similar load of malarkey.

    PRE-MEDITATED attacks on DS? B!tch please. Lee is just being a whiny baby who refuses to act like a man and admit that he is wrong. I’m SURE that he reads this, and I really don’t care.

    Cherie, if you read this, get in touch with me… lollirazor at hotmail dot com. I miss your posts. 😦

  85. MarineWife says:

    I unbolded you Cherie

    i will not give up though. I didn’t accept the whole “my word is final ” BS from my mama so I am sure as hell not gonna accept it as an adult from power mongers.

  86. MarineWife says:

    are their any mama’s missing of the list or ones that really should be bolded?

  87. onlygirl says:

    good god you are a stubborn women, LOL ok thanks thats a step in the right direction LOL

  88. MarineWife says:

    my mom says I am hardheaded….. naaa just very focused on rectifying a grave injustice

  89. Another Mama says:

    It really is all about Kim huh? Kim, get over yourself.

    I had issues with your original MC post where you played the “I was too greedy..” etc. It really is all about you, all the time.

    Now you want to TTC right away? After losing a child a week ago and deciding that you shouldn’t “push it” to have another?

  90. onlygirl says:

    i do have to say, i wish people would stop bringing her m/c into it. it really bothers me to see it tossed about. i know i have been a real smartass to her, but it isnt something that should be tossed around by us in such a manner. it is an awful thing to go through. i understand the bitter feelings behind it but please stop with it.

  91. Kim says:

    Thank you for that onlygirl. You were VERY supportive to me via PM. I have kept your pm and I just read it again. You were one of the mamas that really pulled me through it. And I thank you for that

  92. beegee says:

    It really is all about Kim huh? Kim, get over yourself.

    I had issues with your original MC post where you played the “I was too greedy..” etc. It really is all about you, all the time.

    Now you want to TTC right away? After losing a child a week ago and deciding that you shouldn’t “push it” to have another?

    Those comments are disgusting and uncalled for.

  93. ~Peach~ says:

    Seriously? Not to judge but if I had a m/c I sure as hell wouldnt be jumping on the TTC bandwagon so soon. Just seems kinda like ummmmmmm stupid.

  94. Amanda says:

    Dont you kind of have to be a woman to be a mom?

  95. Green~Mammy says:

    Can we leave her TTC out of this that makes us look really bad.

  96. beegee says:

    Seriously? Not to judge but if I had a m/c I sure as hell wouldnt be jumping on the TTC bandwagon so soon. Just seems kinda like ummmmmmm stupid.

    Wow shitty much? Who the phuck is anyone to judge or make comments like these?

  97. onlygirl says:

    i really dont think any of the issues at hand have anything to do with kim’s reproduction. once again, people please stop taking potshots at her about it. it is really sad to see. i personally ttc’d right away after all of my m/c. it is a very personal choice that no one has a right to judge.

  98. I'm Just Saying..... says:

    Can we please stay on topic or at least deal with the issues. What Kim decides to do with her reproductive life is none of our business and that is just entering some pretty murky waters and won’t help things at all.

    People were upset with Kim because she got banned and went running to other boards asking for people to support her. They rallied together and came to DS to do just that. Some got a little out of line, a couple got a lot out of line. Many did not really get out of line. Lots got banned. Some justifiably, some not so much.

    Kim, we know all this. The issue is this-you did not appreciate what these women did for you. When you were allowed to come back to DS the one and only person you thanked was Lee. You did not have your siggy thank you until much later. Your first inclination was to thank Lee and you completely and totally ignored the multitudes that went to bat for you. You would have never been back without them. Well not for 3 months anyway or forever. Certainly not now. You keep saying you did thank them, however, any thank you I have seen seem to either blatantly contain a “but” statement afterwards, or it is implied, such as in your siggy. You do not include “but” statements when thanking someone for something. It comes off as completely insincere. You are not sincerely appreciative for how many went out on a limb for you as you asked them to do and now those people are not just banned for 3 months, they don’t just have strikes, they are banned permanently and you have acted very flippant about it.

    I believe for many, they see that you have not been sincere when you have apologized and honestly, I believe it is now too little, too late.

    you should have been more considerate of what they were doing for you starting with the post where you kissed Lee’s butt thanking him. There should have been a lot more thank yous to a lot more people than him and there weren’t.

  99. I'm Just Saying..... says:

    Kim-do you see that there are people sticking up for you on the potshots and issues that shouldn’t be used against you? People are still sticking up for you—please take a moment to think about what those people are trying to get through to you. We aren’t out to get you. There are just a lot of really hurt people who feel really used and you are a large part of why they feel that way. Do you realize that?

  100. Tara says:

    I wish we could give Kim a dose of her own medicine and ban her from this site, since she seems to be such an attention *****, I know her not being able to see what everyone is saying about her would drive her insane.

    On another note, smooth move advertising your new business in your avi. You can do what you want, but I’d be worried that a lot of ppl would purposely avoid that spot knowing what a shady person you are. There is no way I’d trust to get honest customer service from you after seeing how you behave.

  101. DS Drama Mama 2 says:

    Did anyone else see her prefolds? was that felt sewn on them?

  102. onlygirl says:

    yes it is felt.

  103. Tara says:

    and btw Kim, I just love that in the midst of all this crap that has happened to your friends you start a thread entitled: “I have a confession to make.” I actually thought it was going to be about you apologizing and admitting what you did wrong. Well stupid me, I should have known this would be the content: “I ate 4 boxes of girl scout cookies in matter of ONE WEEK.”

    Wow Kim it’s good to know that you needed so many snacks while you were enjoying all this entertainment. Shallow!

    And for the love of all that is good and holy in the world, please stop putting things like “I’m leaving DS for a while, blah blah blah” in your siggy. If you need to leave just go. Why must you constantly play the poor me, pay attention to me, I need more reassurance that I’m not a rotten person card? I think ppl are going to get tired of stroking your ego real soon here.

  104. onlygirl says:

    LOL is she putting i am leaving ds for awhile in there now??? hahahaha come on kim. just like you have said to the rest of us, if you dont like it, get out.

  105. Tara says:

    Yeah, she’s only said it about a million times now. I’m wondering when it will actually happen.

  106. MN sunshine says:

    at one point she said it on MM as well. I think a break is a get idea. Take some time to honestly reflect how things could have possibly turned so sour and why…

  107. cassie says:

    um, first things first, i have to say “GOOOOOOOOOOOO Danni!” for doin the damn thing! sheʻs always so shiny and happy, iʻm glad to see her with the boxing gloves on. i love you Danni. you are amazing times infinity.

    and you know she titled that thread as such because she knew people would look thinking that she was going to own up to the err of her ways. thatʻs why she put a bunch of
    “.
    .
    .
    .
    .”
    in the beginning, that way you couldnʻt see the content without opening it. itʻs all about attention, and she knew what kind of headline would get it.

    ya herrrd?

  108. blsimpson says:

    Man, I really wish I knew who you were Tara… Im agreeing with you 100% here now… 😀 I also thought that her thread was going be an apology, but I guess I should know by now, huh?

    I would love to see what she would do if she was banned from here. 😀 I am also agreeing with the couple of mama’s that have said that she is fanning her own flame, and that she is turning everything around to make it about her. This “oh woe is me” act does get old. I also think that your AVI is border line breaking the rules, and you are right back to seeing how far you can push the limits. If i didnt know there were already many, many mamma’s that have reported it, I would be doing that right now.

  109. MarineWife says:

    please report her as well! the more that do it the less the mods and admin will be able to ignore her blatant defiance.

  110. cassie says:

    i believe tara was journey… but correct me if iʻm wrong tara? and blsimpson… youʻre the diaper daddy, right? *sorry, lol there arenʻt many so yaʻll stand out!* and i will say that i reported the avi too because i feel it is a slap in the face for what she was JUST banned for… i donʻt care if it is a congo, if thatʻs the case there needs to be a reference to hyena cart in there, not misfit moms (no offense, MM, just that this is one of the “forbidden” websites to mention, yʻdig?)… just MHO!

  111. MN sunshine says:

    you really think they will ban her now? for some reason I don’t. I think she’ll push the limits forever and they’ll let it slide. though as bad a business decision it was to ban her in the manner which they did the first go, it would be as bad a decision to let her slide now…
    if that makes any sense.
    basically I don’t give them credit for being smart enough to make a good business decision.

  112. LeesAWanker says:

    A martini glass and a pacifier? LMAO Weren’t you telling us that we had no class the other day? Pot, meet kettle.

    Get over yourself.

  113. blsimpson says:

    Believe me when I say I know how many times its been reported. You can see my siggy for the clue for that… In saying that. I cant go deeper, cause she really likes it there, and I wouldnt want to get her in trouble…

    Yes, I am that daddy. 🙂 Good thing to be recognized? 😉
    (See how easy it is make something about you that wasnt? ;-))

    MN Sunshine, while I do agree that a lot will slide with her, cause of what happened, and that it was a bad “business decision” to ban her the first time, I dont agree with your last statement. I think its pretty clear that Lee is smart enough to turn web forums into money. In saying that, I do have to state that I see nothing wrong with it. I think that things could be run differently, but it is his “job” so to speak, the way that he provides for his family…

    Her AVI is a martini glass and pacifier, with a baby rattle stir-stick. For those of you who havent seen it, its here:

    Oh my, lookie that, she changed her name… KIMBELLISHMENTS
    http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/member.php?u=140

  114. Kelolsen says:

    Personally, I think Kim could start her own “Lee sucks!” blog and have her name all over it, spam her site, and break all 103847589876 rules on a daily basis and nothing would happen – Lee isn’t about to bring her back to spite Batgirls (and yes, I think some of that was to spite that board) and then ban her again. I think Kim knows it too. Reporting her avis won’t do anything, I don’t think. I think she’s an untouchable b/c she is a pawn.

  115. LeesAWanker says:

    you really think they will ban her now? for some reason I don’t. I think she’ll push the limits forever and they’ll let it slide. though as bad a business decision it was to ban her in the manner which they did the first go, it would be as bad a decision to let her slide now…
    if that makes any sense.
    basically I don’t give them credit for being smart enough to make a good business decision.
    ———————————

    THis is my theory. Lee really wants to win that contest. Why? Because it will be recognized, which will bring more traffic and when he sells DS, he will get a shitload of money for it because it is an “award-winning forum”. If he wins, he won’t have to worry about the what will happen if he bans popular members, he’ll still have that award. So yeah, eventually they will ban her again.

  116. Kelolsen says:

    oh my gosh, the contest.. sure.. people will be entered to win if they say that they’ve voted. Sure……….. I’m sure a site supporter will be chosen as the winner and no one is tallying who voted. C’mon.. how do you keep track and how do you know if people are telling the truth?? members have nothing to gain from that contest.

  117. LeesAWanker says:

    Someone should report the PMs for the contest as Spam. That’s exactly what it is. Only Lee will benefit from that contest. What’s the winner going to get? A chocolate laptop?

  118. onlygirl says:

    KIMBELLISHMENTS
    bbbbbbbwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!! LOL oh holy hell. so mr.simpson, i have to ask. you did a bit of sparring with the ladies here not to long ago. i am getting a bit of a different feel from you on these posts. whats up?? and i agree about the business sense, lee may not be people savvy, but he has the cashflow thing down just fine.

  119. anothermama says:

    Ugh!! She has a new user name: KIMBELLISHMENTS!!! In bold!!!! I can’t take it anymore.

  120. Birdie says:

    The bold letters are just ridiculous. I think it’s about time I just put her on IGNORE. Out of site, out of mind. Everyone just do me a favor and don’t quote her so I can’t see what she says in quotes, either. 😀

  121. Tara says:

    “A martini glass and a pacifier? LMAO Weren’t you telling us that we had no class the other day? Pot, meet kettle.”

    Hey now, in all fairness drunken mothers should be able to be mothers as well. LOL! I’m just playin, settle down kids, no need for bbqing my buns. 🙂

  122. Tara says:

    Oh darn, it was supposed to be drunken women, not drunken mothers. Ruined my own one liner. Hehe

  123. Tara says:

    “bbbbbbbwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!”

    Excuse me Kim, but did you just cough up your self dignity?

  124. blsimpson says:

    Nothings really changed. 😀 I enjoyed the sparing, and agree 100% on the Kim thing. I didnt come in here originally looking for a fight. It started with me defending myself, on the LDS post, about the ~Journey~ post. It went on to other things then from there. My tune is still the same.

    I think that Lee knew what he was doing when he purchased DS from MJ, and I think, no, I know, it was his plan all along. I was actually very disappointed when I heard that they (Lee) were un-banning her. I was also sorry for all the other mama’s that got thrown in with her. I think it is deplorable that she is back, and that Lee isn’t even considering looking at all the others that were banned. I think it was a very shallow thing of her to do to run to the other sites, and practically demand help, and then turn her back on everyone that did. (And yes Kim, that is exactly what you did.)

    You do have to understand a couple of things. I might not post much, but I really do like it there. I think that it is a very close knit group of individuals, and the drama and disagreements are going to happen anywhere at some point or another. There are things that go on that I don’t agree with, but my wife being in the position she is in, I don’t feel comfortable speaking up, because although she is not me, and they are my opinions, I don’t want to jeopardize her position. She really likes it there too. What I say could have negative repercussions on her.

    🙂

  125. Tara says:

    “I think that things could be run differently, but it is his “job” so to speak, the way that he provides for his family…”

    You know blsimpson, I’m actually starting to agree with you here. I think karma or whatever you want to call it will be a far better judge then I ever could. So while I will not support his site by being a member I will say that I’m done with my “burn Lee at the stake crusade”

    And as to who I am, you may wonder, you may guess, but I will never tell. Muahahhaha!

  126. Tara says:

    “bbbbbbbwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!”

    Excuse me Kim, but did you just cough up your self dignity?

    Void that last entry, I didn’t read the post very well and for some reason I thought Kim had posted it. I’ve got to lay off the arcade games, making my mind go crazy. 😉

  127. Tara says:

    “so mr.simpson, i have to ask. you did a bit of sparring with the ladies here not to long ago. i am getting a bit of a different feel from you on these posts. whats up?? and i agree about the business sense, lee may not be people savvy, but he has the cashflow thing down just fine.?”

    At first I was kind of POed at him for making assumptions, but after really debating with him for awhile I really do think he is a stand up guy who is just trying to see both sides of the pancake, kwim? He never attacked us or anything even when he was getting cyber slammed, so I think that shows some integrity. And after what he just said about putting his wife’s interests above his own, I think he sounds like a pretty great guy.

  128. blsimpson says:

    “Void that last entry, I didn’t read the post very well and for some reason I thought Kim had posted it. I’ve got to lay off the arcade games, making my mind go crazy. ;)”

    Hmm, I took that as you were agreeing.. 😀 And arcade games, huh? 😀 Real? Or console? 😀

    And you know, I should have fallen in with this group a long time ago 😀 Only thing I regret now is I wont be welcome at BG’s to keep up the convo’s.. 😀

  129. onlygirl says:

    blsimpson i understand very well not wanting to put your views in front of your wifes enjoyment of ds. thank you for the answer, i am glad that you are thoughtfull of your wife. i just noticed a change in tone and was very curious.

  130. blsimpson says:

    “Only thing I regret now is I wont be welcome at BG’s to keep up the convo’s..”

    Man, no edit button… :-\ that should have read:

    “Only thing I regret now is I wont be welcome at BG’s, you know, being a guy…, to keep up the convo’s..”

    Again, assuming thats where you all went.. 😉

  131. onlygirl says:

    And you know, I should have fallen in with this group a long time ago Only thing I regret now is I wont be welcome at BG’s to keep up the convo’s..

    LOL we are not fools you know. pretty talk will get you nothing.

  132. cassie says:

    totally understandable, mr. simpson, and very respected. *insert the wink and the gun here*

  133. blsimpson says:

    “LOL we are not fools you know. pretty talk will get you nothing.”

    Trying to figure out if there is any sarcastically in your voice?…? I wasn’t.. 🙂

    And please, stop calling me mr. simpson.. 😀 My name is Ben. 🙂

  134. Tara says:

    “And you know, I should have fallen in with this group a long time ago 😀 Only thing I regret now is I wont be welcome at BG’s to keep up the convo’s.. :-D”

    You and my dh should join the picket line. I was playing in the arcade on BGs and he wanted to have an account so bad so he could play. I told him sorry you’re a man, no play time for you. 😛

    But seriously I can fully understand why men aren’t aloud. I mean on DS the forum is public to google search and men are aloud, but it’s more of a family oriented site. Sometimes i think, great, involved father’s that’s what I like to see, but on BG’s it really is more of a women’s forum in comparison to DS. I know there are some TMI on DS but I don’t think some women feel as comfortable and open speaking in such a public forum knowing men are lurking around. It feels a lot more safe and secure on BGs.

  135. lysol says:

    well now I’m horny.

  136. Tara says:

    “well now I’m horny.”

    LMBO! WHat?!

  137. onlygirl says:

    no, no sarcasm at all i am in hysterics laughing ben. not in a mean way at all, its just kinda funny how people are starting to speak up a little at a time over the kim debaucle of 2008. i have seen a few messy board blow ups so have been able to stand by without hurt feelings and see a bit of humor here in all of this. i will miss the bit of fun i had at ds, but its not the end of my world. i am really and truly sad for the people who were banned over really feeling like kim needed help, when the help she needed was not even close by.

  138. blsimpson says:

    Tara – I completely understand. 🙂 Just means you all will have to keep coming back here.. 😀

  139. lysol says:

    oh, just one of those nights. :>

    and all this talk about daddies had me thinking
    .
    .
    .
    .
    rarrrr!

  140. lysol says:

    onlygirl, switch ISP’s and come back :>

  141. onlygirl says:

    lysol Says: March 17, 2008 at 5:36 am
    onlygirl, switch ISP’s and come back :>

    now that wouldnt be very nice now would it, and i am me and wont change one little thing about my typing, or pattern of speech, i am proud of who i am and it wouldnt fly. how long would would it take to catch on???its really all good.

  142. blsimpson says:

    LOL lysol. 😀

    And its time for this daddy to go to bed. Its almost 11pm here, and I have to get up to leave for work at 5am. :-\ Its been a pleasure. 🙂

  143. Tara says:

    “onlygirl, switch ISP’s and come back :>”

    Yeah that’s pretty much what we’ve all done. I’m sure Lee can put 2 and 2 together and figure out that even though he’s banned all of us it only takes a click to get back on. DS will no longer be my home but I may temporarily need to use the services to get a few things sold off quickly. I gag at the though of supporting Lee’s crooked butt but I don’t want to get stuck with a bunch of diapers that don’t work so in and out I will go. And speaking of in and out I will go…..

    “oh, just one of those nights. :>

    and all this talk about daddies had me thinking
    .
    .
    .
    .
    rarrrr!”

    You should have been a fly on the wall at our house last night. rarrrrrrr!

  144. Tara says:

    Oh that’s right, I forgot you were from CA. It’s almost 2 am here, YAWN!

  145. blsimpson says:

    “But seriously I can fully understand why men aren’t aloud. I mean on DS the forum is public to google search and men are aloud, but it’s more of a family oriented site. Sometimes i think, great, involved father’s that’s what I like to see, but on BG’s it really is more of a women’s forum in comparison to DS. I know there are some TMI on DS but I don’t think some women feel as comfortable and open speaking in such a public forum knowing men are lurking around. It feels a lot more safe and secure on BGs.”

    I was thinking about this while brushing my teeth, and I actually feel bad about joining MM the way I did. I want to say that I am sorry for that, and like a lot of things, that was done in haste, so I could follow what was happening.. they dont expect a guy to be there, and it was wrong of me. I can honestly say though, that I was only in the two DS drama threads, and the one that I posted the :thumbsup: smiley in to see the pics. 🙂

    “You should have been a fly on the wall at our house last night. rarrrrrrr!”

    Hmm, a littel TMI, maybe? 😉

    But really, going to bed now. 😀 Night ladies. 🙂

  146. Tara says:

    “I was thinking about this while brushing my teeth”

    It’s amazing what insight can be gained from simply cleaning the mouthing a toothbrush. LOL! 😛

  147. Tara says:

    Oh crap! Messed up another one. I give up!

  148. I'm Just Saying..... says:

    I missed so much fun last night, we should create a new forum just so Ben can join in and we will recruit all our DS friends. I love the BG forum and I’m not leaving, but since Ben can’t go there ya know.

    Oh and I know who Tara is now!

  149. blsimpson says:

    “Oh crap! Messed up another one. I give up!”

    Awe, Tara, dont give up.. Its late there.. 🙂 Or is that early? Hmm..

    “we should create a new forum just so Ben can join in and we will recruit all our DS friends”

    I have the space, and domain, if you have the name. 😉 Im serious. 😀

  150. I'm Just Saying..... says:

    I suck at coming up with names, so someone else is going to have to do it.

  151. lilgamoma says:

    wow, I’m really sad…Not because I was banned for no reason fron DS (oh wait, cause I told Lee I was sorry for him, since he was “sorry for us”)..anyways, there’s no way in Heck I would go back to that sad little place, even if they paid me.
    But these comments lately here, it so sad, just sad….I’d REALLY hate to meet a majority of you ppl in real life, if this is the way you act towards others. Can’t get your point across~ So keep arguing, being disrespectful, name calling, whatever? What a lovely lot of morals to teach our kids. Keep it up momas, let’s just keep it up for years & years, these attutuides towards others, so the whole world can just go to sh*t.
    And this wasn’t pointed at ANYONE in particular, but I’m just disgusted at what I’ve been reading the last few days, I felt like I had to say this. But they do say around here, if it OFFENDED YOU, it MUST apply to you. Let’s try to learn to respect one another & teach our kids the same, since they do learn from our examples. And I say to each & everyone, I hope you have a peaceful & happy day.

  152. blsimpson says:

    “I suck at coming up with names, so someone else is going to have to do it.”

    Same here. 😀 Threw this together though, when I got to work. 😀

  153. blsimpson says:

    Opps, forgot the link 😉

    http://www.mykeiki.com/forums/

  154. blsimpson says:

    “Oh and I know who Tara is now!”

    And let me guess, your not talking either? 😉

  155. LeesAWanker says:

    Opps, forgot the link 😉

    http://www.mykeiki.com/forums/
    ——————————————–
    Ooooh that’s pretty!!

  156. I'm Just Saying..... says:

    “Oh and I know who Tara is now!”

    And let me guess, your not talking either?

    Not my place to tell! 🙂

  157. Tara says:

    Na na na na boo boo! 😛

  158. Kristina-Prawn* says:

    Back the truck up for a second. What is this stuff about soggygranolamom? That’s my SN on DS. What list? What PMs? Mom, am I in trouble?!?

    I just want my membership reinstated to I can access my FB. I promise I will NEVER go there again to defend another person for the rest of my life. I just want my damn feedback. Oh, I’ve been a member there longer than Lee. 😀

  159. douchebagsayswhat? says:

    Ehh well, I just read the thread that Juan closed *shocker*.

    I was banned for “hateful and inflammatory language”. Whatevah.

    I said some things because I was angry and upset by what I was reading and the situation Kim portrayed. I was standing up for a victim. If that makes me “hateful and inflammatory” I’m happy to be called that.

    There will be no further reinstatements. Lee and Juan are hypocrites. I’m going to sit back and watch the carnage.

    Hey, can I go vote at that yahoo ask it website? Got a link?

  160. douchebagsayswhat? says:

    Oh and as far as names go, what about DiaperNappers? I was going to start another diapering board but don’t have the inclination. I did have the name though.

    Better book the name though before Lee scoops it up so you can’t have it!!!

  161. Tara says:

    “I just want my membership reinstated to I can access my FB.”

    You can try changing your IP by unplugging your dsl and replugging it in, then you can get onto the site, search forum members, go into your profile and click on FB. Once you are there copy the page and it can be pasted when you need it. I noticed that the FB page doesn’t display that a person is banned. Alternatively you could have someone else go in and copy the page.

  162. douchebagsayswhat? says:

    Thanks Tara! Good idea!!

  163. blsimpson says:

    Thats what I would do. 🙂

    The thread where your name is mentioned is one started by MarineWife for the admins to go back through the list of names that were banned, and re-consider their banning.

  164. onlygirl says:

    i could care less why at this point so i dont think i will bother.

  165. blsimpson says:

    douchebagsayswhat? – http://www.mykeiki.com/feedback.pdf

    I was bored at work. This is all four pages ripped straight from the site. 😀

  166. Kelolsen says:

    the threads are locked, and the gavel pounded. the bannings stand and that’s it.

  167. blsimpson says:

    Sorry, that was actually for Kristina-Prawn* … :-\

    I can do yours dbsw, if you tell me your name there. blsimpson@mykeiki.com 🙂

  168. LeesAWanker says:

    That’s nice of you, Ben!

  169. Tara says:

    Hey Ben how does your wife feel about you chatting with us here? I mean since she’s a mod and all does she feel betrayed that you are helping us out and stuff or does she pretty much feel the same way we do? Just wondering. 🙂

  170. MN sunshine says:

    methinks he’s not at liberty to say one way or another… other than he supports her.

  171. blsimpson says:

    “methinks he’s not at liberty to say one way or another… other than he supports her.”

    :yeahthat: What I said last night:

    “There are things that go on that I don’t agree with, but my wife being in the position she is in, I don’t feel comfortable speaking up, because although she is not me, and they are my opinions, I don’t want to jeopardize her position. She really likes it there too. What I say could have negative repercussions on her.”

    But she does know Im chatting here, and I would say more, but I really cant. 🙂

  172. blsimpson says:

    Heheh. Man, I really know how to kill a thread.. 😀

  173. Tara says:

    Awww I don’t think it’s you, more the topic of the thread here. It’s sort of had all the life strangled out of it now and everyone is chilling out a bit I suspect.

  174. Yeah, I think everyone is done talking about it now… that’s why I haven’t blogged further on Juan’s iron fisting. 😉 ha ha ha

    At this point, I’d rather blog about someone getting toejam from between their toes than anything else related to that.

  175. Heather@MM.com says:

    All I want to say, is please leave my logo designs out of this discussion. As well as a link to my photobucket account to bash more on the logo design. It in turn is leaving bad feedback for me. That martini glass was made long ago for MM.com, we decided to use it for our logo on the congo. I hadn’t had a chance to make a new one when we were setting it up. It is not a symbol of a drunk mother it is about being a mother, who after the kids go down, settles down for some good forum discussions with whatever drink may float your boat. I for one would have water or sprite in there, as I’m not a drinker. It was just a symbol. Kim does not run the HC congo, she is just a vendor on the MM HC congo. As a side note: if you see a changed logo it was not because of anything you said, I was already considering using a shopping bag or a purse in replace of the glass.

    I did nothing wrong to you, so please don’t bash my logo designs.

  176. douchebagsayswhat? says:

    Thanks for the link, Ben. douchebagsaswhat and Prawn* are one in the same. 🙂 I have a dual personality. 😉

    More accurately, I signed in on both my PC and my laptop. My laptop IP has not been banned so I can still read DS as a guest and access my feedback.

  177. blsimpson says:

    Agreed that everyone is done talking about it. 🙂

    I dont think anyone was attacking you personally Heather. At least I wasn’t. I dont agree with logo, I think that a lot more people are treating it the way that we all did here, and to have a couple of the MM users on DS use it as their logo, we feel they are back to pushing the limits again. Its direct advertising for another board. That is against the rules at DS, and they know it.

  178. blsimpson says:

    ok, something not drama, but posted on DS today..

    http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=367522

    “She learned how to fake sneeze and it was hilarious.

    She will be one on friday. Excuse my conversation, my hubby started video taping without my knowledge. But thats me at my desk doing whatever I do online all day.”

    [video src="http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa191/mbsmamabear/?action=view&current=03-17-08Kat005.flv" /]

    😀

  179. Heather@MM.com says:

    I dont think anyone was attacking you personally Heather. At least I wasn’t. I dont agree with logo, I think that a lot more people are treating it the way that we all did here, and to have a couple of the MM users on DS use it as their logo, we feel they are back to pushing the limits again. Its direct advertising for another board. That is against the rules at DS, and they know it.

    It is actually not advertising MM as a site, it actually says MM congo on that logo. So it is actually advertising an HC congo. And I think per DS new rules that is not a violation as I have read it. As for where it is, I don’t know as I haven’t went looking for it, I’ve been too busy.

  180. MN sunshine says:

    That was a cute video, Ben! Fake sneezing is one of the few things that makes my stoic DD laugh… and thanks, too for the fb screenshot :thumbsup:

    MM has an HC?

  181. blsimpson says:

    Thanks! 🙂 I thought we all needed a light post 😀

    Your welcome. 🙂

    And looks like they do. I see it as advertising another site. No where on there does it say anything about DS, and it says Misfit Moms all over it..

  182. Heather@MM.com says:

    Actually you are mistaken, it says MMcongo. Look closer.

  183. Heather@MM.com says:

    It’s not for DS it’s for HC congo. and It says MM congo. I know, I made it. And looked at her avi on DS, it is the MM congo logo and not MM.com. I just wanted to clear that up. It’s not a site advertisement it’s a WAHM wares advertisement.

  184. blsimpson says:

    Please tell me then what the MM stands for?

  185. blsimpson says:

    And this pic, right here:

    says nothing of MisfitMoms.com?

    Am I missing something? The store url is even http://hyenacart.com/MisfitMoms/

    Tell me how that doesnt have Misfit Moms all over it?

  186. Nina Bruja says:

    misfit moms i thought

  187. MN sunshine says:

    huh, interesting. http://hyenacart.com/MisfitMoms/
    well, seems to push the envelope a little but hey, what do I care? My hateful little heart hopes DS takes a beating until powers that be move on…

  188. blsimpson says:

    Well, Im not of that mindset. I enjoy it still at DS.

    Im stating facts, with proof, right from her own site.

  189. Nina Bruja says:

    I like it there too, but it could be a lot better in the managerial department 😉

  190. Nina Bruja says:

    Btw, I’m not sure how I missed this over the last few days. I was too busy killing threads over on DS, I guess.

  191. blsimpson says:

    Man, you have a TON to catch up on then.. You had better start reading now… 😀

  192. cassie says:

    see, this is where the rules get stoopid. on DS, it is NOT okay to advertise MM or BG or XYZ or PDQ. BUT! itʻs perfectly fine to advertise Hyena Cart and any and everything associated with it.

    so basically if you open something on hyena cart that is all about MM or BG, then TECHNICALLY…. itʻs okay.

    double standard, much?

    i want to see what would happen if someone advertised a HC driven BG endorsement.

  193. I'm Just Saying..... says:

    I DARE someone to open a BG HC and then link it from DS! I would love to see how the powers that be handle that one!

  194. I'm Just Saying..... says:

    OH, and the things that could be sold on the HC are things like. BG hats, BG shirts, BG whatever BG.com stuff everywhere. What can they do?

    The only things they could do are
    A. Allow it
    B. Shut everyone’s ability to link to any HC stores down.

    I’m sure they will attempt to be hypocritcal though, just like they are with everything else.

  195. blsimpson says:

    cassie, that was kinda my point. Oh well though, right?

    I’m Just Saying, you forgot

    C. Ban the user for linking it.

  196. DS Drama Mama 2 says:

    C being most likely. lol.

  197. Heather@MM.com says:

    Yes it says MM.com congo. Because it is made up of members from MM. However it is all about the WAHM wares. We have no link to MM. It is the same concept as the GranolaChicks congo. It is a congo made up of it’s members.
    We aren’t selling anything MM. It is all WAHM wares.
    Don’t be haters.

  198. Heather@MM.com says:

    ETA: Each member has their own store and in no way are linked to MM other than they are members to the site. We as MM admins are offering this to our WAHM’s to sell their wares together.

  199. MN sunshine says:

    Sorry Heather, I think there’s just a lot of emotion tied up with last week’s debacle. I really hope the congo does well.

  200. Heather@MM.com says:

    Thank you for that, Sunshine. I just wanted to clarify everything with the congo.

  201. Heather@MM.com says:

    ETA: OT sortof. Sorry if I seem a little emotional on the subject. I am 33 weeks pg plus today is kidnergarten registration for my first born and I am just not as ready as he is. I’ve already cried about that this morning. 🙂

  202. blsimpson says:

    Im sorry Heather, Im not trying to hate on anyone. Im just saying that the HC has MM.com all over it, so technically it is promoting MM, and its against the rules to link to that on DS now. Thats it. 🙂

    BTW, I think that is is a GREAT idea, what you are doing for your WAHM’s!

    I feel ya on the kindergarten registration. We are not quite there yet, but our three and a half year old is always talking about going to “school” and how he really wants to go. 😥

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