I used to really enjoy going to DS. I have been a member longer than I care to admit.

It was a place that I went to for support and love from other moms. My life is extremely busy at home. I home school my children; I choose not to vax; I am a crunchy mama in a non-crunchy area. I struggle to find somewhere to fit in, in this main stream society. DS was the place that I could go to have “contact” with other moms who are like me, and even some who aren’t.

I have shared my losses, my joys, my births, miscarriages, woes and loves with other moms and dads at DS. I had what I would consider an extended family there. Many of my actual family was even there, not just people whom I had never met.

Sadly, over the last few years DS began to change. The moms with whom I had relationships were banned, left, or made new boards.

Then, DS was sold to Lee Dodd. DS became a money making machine. Once Lee Dodd was in control, ads popped up, porn ads were everywhere, more rules and regulations, slower running times, problem after problem.

My fellow blogger and I started this site to try to have some fun and stay connected to DS. Before we started writing on the blog I was finding myself more and more distant from my once “friends”; I was seldom visiting and even more seldom posting. I missed what used to be there. This blog was allowing me to reconnect and find some joy in the site that I once loved.
This past 2 days has been unbelievable to me.

I don’t know what upsets me the most, the random bannings, for “no reason” or at Lee Dodd’s descression… or the fact that the “wool” has been pulled over so many eyes.

Here we are, being site supporters. (yes even me). We were funding this site that we so loved and wanted to thrive, while the owner didn’t need us to, and beyond that, he is actually lining his pockets with the funds seeing as he makes more than a million dollars a year from running forums like DS. I struggle some months to feed my family, and while I didn’t give a lot, I did give money that would have obviously been better spent elsewhere.

My faith in DS has completely wavered and is gone. I have lost my home and friends. I will return to DS, but no longer to be friends and have relationships or even to sell my diapers and other items. I will be there only to blog.

Lee Dodd is not someone whom I wish to support in any way.

He is a bigot. He is a liar. He is a thief in my eyes. I cannot continue to partake in supporting something like that.

I promise not to get all YAGE-like or be whiney again. But the last few days have really weighed heavy on my mind. I just really wanted to ask you all:

Where has the DS that we all used to know and love gone? Where?

  1. The Bored Bitch says:

    I feel you.

  2. DS Drama Mama 2 says:

    I know you do woman. You were there for a long time.

  3. lysol says:

    i haven’t been there long – but long enough to think it has really changed in just the short amount of time i’ve been there… so i can only imagine what it was like (better) before i joined.
    now it just bloez most of the time. :<

  4. theboardbitch says:

    I started on DS 2 1/2 years ago. where it has gone now is depressing

  5. ~sarah~ says:

    Amen mama…I’ve moved on to greener on-line pastures myself. That site won’t get another penny from me.

  6. Me says:

    I stopped going to DS long long ago. Then I tried to come back about a year ago and just couldn’t do it. I finally found a board I like but I look at FSOT every so often and will admit to browsing and thinking of maybe posting a bit. But i just can’t. It still makes me a bit sad. But I move on.

  7. beegee says:

    If you don’t support Lee, his site, or his bigotry, I guess you will be shutting your blog down. You do know that this blog helps to line Lee’s pockets because you link to ds and help him to optimize his site which equals more bucks for Lee. In addition this site helps to fuel the drama which keeps the traffic up on Lee’s site. I’m sure I’m not the only one that saw this:
    Most users ever online was 2,703, 03-10-2008 at 08:23 PM

    We can all bitch and complain about what a dirtbag Lee is. But the bottom line is that we are all supporting him until we boycott. It is Lee’s site and he can do whatever the phuck he wants with it. He can ban. He can make senseless rules. He can retract his rules. And we can sit there and argue until we are blue in the face or we can do something that really counts and boycott.

  8. DS Drama Mama 2 says:

    BeeGee, I am tired of DS. But, why would I shut down my blog about it? Our blog really doesn’t increase his traffic. All of the moms running over there from other boards does. (NOT saying that you can’t do that mamas). But you don’t think that there are 14 incoming links to this site from other boards right now that are also linked to DS? People aren’t going to DS b/c of us. They are coming here b/c of DS.

    Actually we do not direct link to DS, or at least never mean to.

    I am very aware it is his site, and his rules. I have been since the switch.

    This blog is to let those who can’t see, get to. Lots and lots of IPs are banned, including roaming IPs which means people who use AOL and other ISPs cannot see DS at all. We allow them to keep up.

  9. DS Drama Mama 2 says:

    Oh and FTR, that 2000+ mamas logged onto DS, many have been offline for days. I know that I have not logged in for 3 days and it still shows me logged in. I do my surfing/blogging logged out.

  10. beegee says:

    You inadvertantly create optimization to Lee’s site by linking and mentioning the site. This helps to line lee’s pockets with affiliate link money…hence the big royalty checks. You’re site helps to create a bigger web presence for ds which is how Lee earns his money. Google SEO or search engine optimization to see how it works.
    You think all the constant ds drama and allowing people to keep up with it isn’t good for business? I’m sure we’ve all heard the expression “no such thing as bad publicity.”
    Anyhow I don’t give to craps what anyone does. Free will is a wonderful thing. I’m just pointing out how Lee makes his money and how drama and your blog is helping.

  11. julia says:

    It’s in the shitter that’s where it is. I’m sad to DS drama mama 2. I REALLY loved it there 😦

  12. DS Drama Mama 2 says:

    Julia, I agree. I used to love it too. Too bad it got “flipped” like a freaking house.

  13. onlygirl says:

    just fyi, if you are banned while logged in you will remain online. go to the bottom of the page where it says banned and hit log out. i did it and a dser confirmed i was no longer showing.

  14. Green~Mammy says:

    Thanks for that tip I did that and sure enough it said cookies cleared so I guess I was looking like I was online the whole time thats funneh!

  15. Birdie says:

    I’m curious to know if anyone places any blame for the down fall of DS on MamaJo? It was still a cool place to hang out when she and Samantha were *mostly* running the show. And I can totally understand her having other family commitments and needing to pass the torch, so to speak. I only wish she had passed it on to people that actually cared about the board, and didn’t see dollar signs in place of it’s members. I’ve been there a long time, and it’s easy to see how a lot of the noobs see it as an OK place to hang out and connect with other Moms. I just find it fascinating that the two of them have completely dropped off the face of DS.

    I miss the old DS. I miss the old Diaper Chatter. Diaper Chatter used to be a helpful forum. Now it’s full of drama and competition and fads. New people asking for help don’t get a response because their questions aren’t about popular diapers. If Lee really cared about the board, and having it be a haven and a place for people to find help, he’d do something about that. But the members are just money to him-not real people.

  16. mysterymoma says:

    While everyone is entitled to their opinion.. personnally i think many of the mamas are getting their panties in a wad when there isn’t a need to. There is drama on Every and i do mean EVERY womens site out there. people get banned, people get upset… While you may call Lee a Bigot personnally I feel he has Grown DS which is great for those of us that sell diapers etc.. via DS. I have gotten much more traffic and sales as a result of the growth.. I hate to see any of the mamas leave or get banned… but I do want the site to continue to grow cause that means more mama’s to buy my goods. I also feel if you don’t like what lee has done go to antoher site.. but i guarantee you at some point you will find issue with the other site to.. I am member at many mothering sites, i participate in them all and have come to realize non are perfect.

  17. MajKitab says:

    My biggest problem is how the site only runs properly if you’re a supporter. Just doesn’t sit right with me.

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