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Jenny’s Simply Clean simply isn’t cutting it… October 29, 2009

Ok, so there were issues with the former owner, and supposedly all was fixed by Audra, the new owner. It now seems Audra is dropping the ball as well (Not to mention out right lying and apparently blocking costumers.)

Check out the closed co-op thread there are problems throughout, and now all kinds of people are emerging from the woodwork with complaints: (this is towards the end of the thread, but the most interesting part) http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=786446&page=34

10-13-2009, 12:06 PM #334
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Re: Jennys Simply Clean Closed…Update in OP

 

Is anyone having trouble contacting Audra or maybe she has a new contact I’m not aware of?I placed and order with Jenny before she sold out to Audra. I never received all of my items. I emailed back and forth several times with Jenny all with promises to send my items. She eventually quit responding to my emails and then I learned she had sold the business to Audra. I emailed Audra about the incomplete order,(more than once) and she promised to get the items out ASAP. That was the first week in August. I still haven’t received my items and she isn’t responding to my emails.

 

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get my items or to contact her?

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Is anyone having trouble contacting Audra or maybe she has a new contact I’m not aware of?I placed and order with Jenny before she sold out to Audra. I never received all of my items. I emailed back and forth several times with Jenny all with promises to send my items. She eventually quit responding to my emails and then I learned she had sold the business to Audra. I emailed Audra about the incomplete order,(more than once) and she promised to get the items out ASAP. That was the first week in August. I still haven’t received my items and she isn’t responding to my emails.

 

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get my items or to contact her?

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Re: Jennys Simply Clean Closed…Update in OP

 

*sigh*Audra, I PM’d you within minutes of your last post here with details to the transaction. I understand how frustating it is for you to have to follow up where Jenny dropped the ball. I can chalk this up to a loss if you have no intention of responding to my emails or PMs. Just let me know if you have no intention of sending the items so I can quit wasting my time.

 

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Re: Jennys Simply Clean Closed…Update in OP

 

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so has everyone recieved their refund or product???

No. I have made 4 attempts at contacting Audra through email and phone for a local pickup. I have not received any responses. I have even requested a refund through paypal and still have not received any response. I’m getting very frustrated. And I’m posting here in the hopes that Audra will respond to this attempt.

ETA: I did not participate in this co-op. I made my order direct through the website. A friend told me about this thread and I posted to it in the hopes of getting some resolution. If this post needs to be removed since I didn’t order through diaperswappers, that’s okay.


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Re: Jennys Simply Clean Closed…Update in OP

 

I got my coop orderHowever, I placed an order through the site two weeks ago and have not gotten any contact and no shipment notification. I PM’d the person here ran the coop not realizing it wasn’t her duh – and she said she would forward it (and I’m sure she did) but I still have not heard from the owner of JSC.

 

I just sent a PM to Motherto4 on here – I am hoping she responds – if something is going on in private life that you are too busy right now to fill my order that is fine – please issue a refund.

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I just opened a case with the paypal resolution center.

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Issued refunds to all that asked.

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Just want everyone to know that Audra still hasn’t answered my emails or PM’s. I’m so glad she PM’d me asking about the transaction so I could spend more time looking up all the details *again* only for her to ignore me *again*.

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Mama you need to file a pp dispute if you haven’t already.

I tried. Unfortunately, Audra or Jenny kept reassuring me that my items were being sent. First, they were out of the items Audra made (dryer balls) shortly after the birth of her last child, totally understandable, I had no beef with that. Then I wait, for weeks and weeks, followed up with promises it was shipping the next day— at least 3 different times, not once did I ever get upset. I was understanding of the situation to a fault. I’ve been very patient and I think considerate of the circumstances. I ended up believing them, that my items were being shipped, or made, or their email wasn’t working, or whatever the excuse of the day was. Now it has been too long to file a PP dispute. Totally my fault for having faith that someone would actually follow through on a business transaction or at least their word.

And now Jenny responds to my last post to this thread with this…….

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My email will not allow me to type emails to respond teh last week. I did not realize you were on DS or I would ahve emailed you.

I tried to respond to her PM but when I hit reply I received a message saying Audra had chosen not receive PMs.

So I’ll post my response here………….

Huh?? YOU PM’d me here a couple of weeks ago. I’ve PM’d you back a couple of times with no response. I’ve also posted to the JSC thread HERE at least 3 times, one of which you responded with an “I PM’d you,” then nada, no follow up, no buzz off, nothing when I got all the transaction info together (for at least the third time I might add). This is getting tiresome. Do you have any intention of sending my items or are you just going to continue to blow me off until I give up?

 

I call “troll”! October 15, 2009

Well, maybe; you decide:

The thread is getting heated and long, and so far, no response as to why baby-wearing is bad… http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=852537

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I noticed in someone siggy that they are anti-baby wearing and it made me wonder why. I can see if you don’t want to but why would someone be against it?

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Freecyle to FSOT October 10, 2009

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Polar Babies Diaper Cover Velcro & Snap 22-27lbs – GUC some wear $13 $12ppd

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Little Poopie Fleece Shorts/Diaper Soaker Small EUC – $15 $12ppd
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Kissaluv Fitted (tag is missing) Size 2 Medium – $11 $9ppd
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Babykins AIO Snap Diapers & 1 Velcro (think this one is Babykins also) – all 3 seem to be a size small – some staining and wear – $4 ea or $11 for all 3 SOLD

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so I freecycled some dipes this week and here is the emails between us. She now has them on here fsot and I am hurt and furious. I found more dipes and stuck them in the bag to give her too.
I have posted on each of her post that I want them returned so I can give them to someone in need. I tried selling them on here before giving them to her and they didn’t sell now she is selling them. I am just so hurt what do I do?> I would love these! They sound great! No problem. I am actually hoping
> to use them for my son now & hopefully our next one as well. But if
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> > Hi I am also in Wolcott and have some small/newborn size covers in
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> > diapers. Do you use wool? If so I have a wonky looking wool cover
> > I crochetted in pink, but you could easily redye it. You need to
> > use a snappi or pins to close it though. I also have 3 small aios,
> > a medium aio and 2 medium covers. My only requirement on giving
> > these to you is that you find someone to give them to when you are
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> > to pick up .
> > Thanks,
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> > — In FreeCycleWaterburyCT@yahoogroups.com, “Pamela” <gordon03@…>
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> >> I would really love any cloth diapers, covers, prefolds, wet bags -
> >> really anything to do with cloth diapering! Thanks for your
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> >> Pam =)
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Shame on you Pam! Of course there are the sympathizers, but I hardly think someone in dire need of $$ is going to be buying $14 snow pants and $14 wall mounts on Ebay.  Sounds like a Freecycle scammer.

 

Nice intro… October 2, 2009

http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=846322

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Newbie Questions!

Ok I just joined this site and I have heard that this site is drama and opinionated towards others. (not in a good way) I want to find out if this is true. If it is, it isn’t the site for me to be on. I hate drama and people that tell you that any way you parent is wrong. Basically the “I am better than you are people”. If it isn’t, please let me know so I don’t deleate this account and not come back. Sorry for my spelling. I admit, I don’t spell to good.

What a way to introduce yourself to a group…

You spell just fine, but you don’t write “to good”.

 

And here we are still dealing with viruses… September 27, 2009

AND IT IS MONTHS LATER!!! Just so everyone who thinks the viruses are lies can see for them selves…

http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=837393

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Virus attack AGAIN – 5th time!!!

This is the 5th time I’ve been attacked while on Diaperswappers.com Thankfully my virus software caught it this time. I’ve had to wipe my hard drive twice already = lost everything!! Why does this keep happening?!?! Is anyone working on this??

My computer popped up with a message stating my computer had been attacked by a virus – then the diaperswapper website went to this odd website and it kept telling me to download this file to prevent all data from being lost – when I clicked OK my McAfee said if I clicked ok my computer could be infected…. So I didn’t click it…… I was on my email and the family roots site – the same thing happened the other day and I just had DS open…..

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Re: Virus attack AGAIN – 5th time!!!

I had the same thing pop up, amongst other things early yesterday morning.

I have a firewall, mcafee virus protection and a spyware program and I didn’t click on ANYTHING and still got it. Oh, and I have a pop-up blocker, too.

My partner (she is an IT geek ) ended up working on it for more than 6 hours last night.

I had 6 viruses and 2 trojans (originating from here, according to the source code).

I am getting rid of McAfee, b/c obviously it didn’t do it’s job (switching to AVG).

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Re: Virus attack AGAIN – 5th time!!!

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I sent this PM to a moderator….
I just wanted to tell you that I was browsing DS last night on the feedback and transaction board and my virus software started going off and saying there was a trojan horse and did I want to abort. So I did and then tried to get into it again and it did it again, I attempted to get back in to DS 5 times and each time my computer started going crazy. I tried 5 other tabs I had open at the time and all worked fine.

I’ve had this computer for 2 years and have never, ever had the virus software issue a warning until last night.

I am really worried about being on here now.

Do you know if there is a problem?

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The game is deny-deny-deny. When the major outbreak happened before, I wasted A LOT of time taking screen shots every time something showed up, only to be told I was, essentially, just a “mom”, not very computer literate, and it was an issue with whatever else I was doing on the web, NOT DS. Pardon me, but my husband is a computer forensics master, who has assisted me in dealing with the viruses from DS. I am well-informed, and know EXACTLY where the worms, Trojans and Malware are coming from.
I have been a member of DS in good standing for more than two years now. I’m not some vindictive housewife who hates DS.
FTR, Sally, I really do appreciate your persistence in posting and dealing with this. It’s not the mods I have an issue with in this situation. It’s the recurring virus issue that SHOULD NOT exist, but for the love of money made in advertising here.

And it goes on and on for 9 pages so far. No announcement from Admin other than “we aren’t finding an issues, our site is clean” BS.

 

4 months and nothing from a WAHM. September 12, 2009

Anyone know what WAHM is acting like this?

What should I do…DS WAHM (http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=832005)

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What should I do…DS WAHM
I purchased 2 customs from a WAHM on 5/28. She said they would be done within a few weeks. Few weeks came, they weren’t done. Gave me an excuse, said they would be finished the next week. Next week came, no communication. I had to keep contacting her. I asked for a DC number…she said she would *try* to find it. Found it but never gave it to me. Claims the items were lost in the mail. Said she was going to the PO to get it figured out. She said that since it was “lost in the mail” she would make new items and send out by the next friday. 2 fridays went by, I pmed her and asked for the DC number that she said she would provide. She still has no responded to me. I am pissed to say the least. I have been more than patient and I have a feeling she never really sent something out in the first place. :headscratch: She has my money and I have nothing. Meantime I have been checking her posts and she is constanlty posting about all the new things she has made! I am soo mad it’s not even funny. What should I do, what can I do to try and get my money back? Since she has a DS WAHM thread I am assuming I should let ADMIN know of the issue.
 

Closing my thread before you all disagree with me. September 9, 2009

Is this becoming a new DS rule. I don’t think people will agree with me, so close my thread?

Thanks for the advice! I have some great ideas so I am closing this thread. :) (http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=829261)

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Thanks for the advice! I have some great ideas so I am closing this thread. :)
Thanks everyone for your thoughts, support, and advice in reference to my dog. I appreciate it. I have some good ideas to start incorporating this week. I felt I should probably close this thread as I sense drama starting and really was looking for just support and advice. I know animals are close to people’s hearts…definitely mine included so that is why I posted here as I am no expert and was looking for some ideas. Thanks again! Have a great week!
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<<I understand some dogs want their space..dog beds are great for that. >>

NO they are most certainly NOT. A dog bed (which we have tons of all over the house) does not protect a dog from a marauding cat, nor from a pushy toddler.
And I cannot believe this thread, in which a person is asking for support and advice, is being turned into a thread for people to judge and bash the way she cares for her dog. If a stranger told you how to raise your KID, you sure would bristle!

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Re: My dog FREAKED out! It was awful…….what to do? (long and horrible for me)
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Is the dog in the crate in your car at work? really? what about the temp of the car? How long is he in there?

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Do I understand that right, that the dog is i a crate in the car while you are working? How do you make sure the car is cold enough in the summer and warm enough in the winter?

This is what I was wondering. :( I have no problem with crate training, but if you’re leaving the dog IN YOUR VEHICLE for hours at a time, there’s a problem there. That’s the kind of thing that will get you reported to animal control. If I knew someone at my office was keeping an animal in their car while they were at work, I’d report them in a heartbeat.

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Re: Thanks for the advice! I have some great ideas so I am closing this thread. :)
Thread is closed mama. :)

I already explained that the dog was in the car for only a few hours while I work. Windows open and the car is just a few feet from the front door of the daycare where I work. Doggie can even play in the front yard of the daycare once drop-off time is over. Never bring him to work if the weather isn’t going to be nice though….but he has to be in a crate when he comes with me. I’m not abusing him by bringing him. He loves to come and he gets extra time with me if/when he comes.

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Cedricsmom—-No, the dog is not in his crate all day and all night. It depends on what we are doing and when. He “goes to bed” around 10 and is up after 6 am. He goes in the crate for several hours a day while I am at work. Is out for walks twice and the whole evening and some in the morning. Thanks for responding to this thread but I feel like I have explained why I am crating at this time….am looking for some advice in that area. A lot of dogs don’t even get fed or walked regularly so I don’t feel that I am a bad owner for using a crate.

I am in the midwest. When the weather is good is when my dog comes with me to work. For our area, that is about April through October appx. Sometimes more. The weather is mild in Missouri.


Sorry, but I have to comment on that. You said your dog is in his crate during the night (10pm-6am) and while you work he is in the crate in the car. That means this dog is spending most of his life in a crate. And he is not being with you during the day, he is in a crate in the car. I do not think that this is acceptable for a dog, it is actually not acceptable for any living being. And the excuse that some dogs don’t even get fed or walked is lame, what is that supposed to mean, ‘I am abusing my dog less than other people do’ ?

Your thread reminded me of the one if people could forget their child in the car. It seems that case shows that even two people can forget about their animal for 30 hours.
Honestly, why having a dog when there is actualy no time for it?

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Thread is closed mama. :)

I already explained that the dog was in the car for only a few hours while I work. Windows open and the car is just a few feet from the front door of the daycare where I work. Doggie can even play in the front yard of the daycare once drop-off time is over. Never bring him to work if the weather isn’t going to be nice though….but he has to be in a crate when he comes with me. I’m not abusing him by bringing him. He loves to come and he gets extra time with me if/when he comes.


Is that how it works? Don’t like the advice or comments, close the thread? Your dog is not with you while you are working, he sits in a crate in a car, your eight working hours (or however many hours you work). The ammount of time your dog spends in a crate (or should we say box since he cannot run in there) has nothing to do with crate training.

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Sorry, but I have to comment on that. You said your dog is in his crate during the night (10pm-6am) and while you work he is in the crate in the car. That means this dog is spending most of his life in a crate. And he is not being with you during the day, he is in a crate in the car. I do not think that this is acceptable for a dog, it is actually not acceptable for any living being. And the excuse that some dogs don’t even get fed or walked is lame, what is that supposed to mean, ‘I am abusing my dog less than other people do’ ?

Your thread reminded me of the one if people could forget their child in the car. It seems that case shows that even two people can forget about their animal for 30 hours.
Honestly, why having a dog when there is actualy no time for it?


:exactly:

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Re: Thanks for the advice! I have some great ideas so I am closing this thread. :)
Drama or not. Not cool to close a thread just because you can.
 

She’s baaaaaaaaaaaack… August 29, 2009

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I have pictures available by email.

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pictures added..I figured out how to post them..pics of inners available also by request.

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only the bee is left!

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The bees and the zoo print are left.

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Morning bumpity!

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Still two great diapers left ready for a new home!

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Two lovely squishy dipes available!

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how much are they?

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$8 each!

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MODS This is It’s A Snap/ Granny’s Woolies again. Her PB photos http://s646.photobucket.com/albums/u…oVelourHeaven/ match her online store: http://hyenacart.com/ItsaSnap/

Please do something about this user. She came back on HC under an alternative IP/IP hider as well.

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(THANK YOU KIMBELLA FOR THE INFO AND THANK YOU CDMP FOR THE POST)

Even the photo info is the same on the sheets and on the diapers, which means it is her taking both photos, no way she “borrowed” them b/c she liked them. (IE: What Camera and her information behind the type of settings on the camera.

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Just who is out of line? August 26, 2009

This got interesting, and of course as soon as the ass patting stopped, the OP wanted the thread deleted…

I GOT BANNED FROM ANOTHER BOARD! was i really out of line?

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I GOT BANNED FROM ANOTHER BOARD! was i really out of line?

I can’t believe it! anyone want to read this thread and tell me if i’m out of line for defending myself here?

http://www.woofboard.com/forum/showthread.php?t=111013

seems like i can let people walk allover me and tell me what a horrible person i am…including a mod! and not post something in my defense? its kinda funny actually– I HAD NO PLANS ON GOING BACK THERE ANYWAY after the type of people that responded–well there were some decent responses–all i asked for is advice on my dog? am i wrong thinking i really didn’t do anything that bad? i wAS mms72 there!

i think i’ll just stick to DS!

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This was followed by the standard ass patting/nice comments… then a few people were honest:

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Re: I GOT BANNED FROM ANOTHER BOARD! was i really out of line?

They were right for being upset with you for supporting puppy mills, despite your being apart of a dog forum for so long and knowing of what you were supporting. However, kudos to the members that only commented on that briefly and moved on to give you advice.

You should have known it was a bad decision to get a puppy from a pet store. You should have known others wouldn’t agree with your irresponsible actions once you spoke freely about it. You should have expected at least one comment regarding your decision, and you should have ignored it and not gotten nasty with a moderator. You were overly defensive, but while I don’t see anything that warrants a ban in that specific thread, some forums are just more strict about how they allow members to treat the moderators.

There weren’t personal attacks in your direction – just people questioning your ethics. It’d be different if you were ignorant about puppy mills, but you fully knowingly supported them. When you get involved with a community of dog lovers, probably many that have experience with rescuing and pouring their heart and soul into saving lives that suffer an industry that you suppported…well, I’m just surprised sooo many were so helpful. That’s what they should be, but when a member who supports puppy mills comes back cocky at a moderator.. well..I just can’t feel sorry for you gettting banned.

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Eh, if we’re being totally honest here – I don’t think anything anyone there said was overly harsh, and you were maybe a bit overly defensive. While your intentions were very good, your actions were not, and you can’t expect a bunch of responsible dog owners to completely ignore that, no matter how you try to rationalize it in your OP.

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They were right for being upset with you for supporting puppy mills, despite your being apart of a dog forum for so long and knowing of what you were supporting. However, kudos to the members that only commented on that briefly and moved on to give you advice.

You should have known it was a bad decision to get a puppy from a pet store. You should have known others wouldn’t agree with your irresponsible actions once you spoke freely about it. You should have expected at least one comment regarding your decision, and you should have ignored it and not gotten nasty with a moderator. You were overly defensive, but while I don’t see anything that warrants a ban in that specific thread, some forums are just more strict about how they allow members to treat the moderators.

There weren’t personal attacks in your direction – just people questioning your ethics. It’d be different if you were ignorant about puppy mills, but you fully knowingly supported them. When you get involved with a community of dog lovers, probably many that have experience with rescuing and pouring their heart and soul into saving lives that suffer an industry that you suppported…well, I’m just surprised sooo many were so helpful. That’s what they should be, but when a member who supports puppy mills comes back cocky at a moderator.. well..I just can’t feel sorry for you gettting banned.

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Eh, if we’re being totally honest here – I don’t think anything anyone there said was overly harsh, and you were maybe a bit overly defensive. While your intentions were very good, your actions were not, and you can’t expect a bunch of responsible dog owners to completely ignore that, no matter how you try to rationalize it in your OP.

ITA with you both…

I’m not attacking you, but you knew the feelings/reasons for not supporting a puppy mill, you were a member of the site for an extended amount of time and knew the issues, yet still did it… They you complained about problems related to it… I am sure it was hard for the group to swallow.

While you might have felt bad for that particular dog, you now have encouraged the mill to produce more pups… it is a vicious circle.

I think most of the comments were perfectly appropriate and on topic. You got WAY too defensive and jumped on people too quick. They were being honest and fair, and offering help to your OP.

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I agree with this. I mean if they are so passionate about that topic on that board you should have expected to get some flames. I also think you overreacted and you should have just let it go when the mod told everyone to stop making comments about you getting the dog from petland. I don’t think you should have been banned but I think you should have just accepted the advice that the posters were giving you and let the criticism roll of your back.

I did expect some flames- BUT i guess what really put me over the top is the MOD of the board making comments- THEN telling others and me to stop– basically he had to get his little jab in then make sure i couldn’t defend myself at all– otherwise really i would have just backed off and prob never even have went back to that thread.

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Ok, I m seeing you do the same thing here that you did over there…

You are becoming overly defensive over the situation and getting a little rude.

Not everyone who told you they were disappointed in the puppy mill situation was out of line. I’m disappointed in you for doing it as well.

When the mod told you to drop it, you should have, end of story. I hate to say it but you egged it on, and came here to do more complaining about it.

You are bashing another board, and that is against the rules here

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Ok, I m seeing you do the same thing here that you did over there…

You are becoming overly defensive over the situation and getting a little rude.

Not everyone who told you they were disappointed in the puppy mill situation was out of line. I’m disappointed in you for doing it as well.

When the mod told you to drop it, you should have, end of story. I hate to say it but you egged it on, and came here to do more complaining about it.

You are bashing another board, and that is against the rules here :twocents:

I don’t see where i am being defensive at all? I’m just explaining my position on the matter i really don’t see rudeness in my post? because i used caps? i’m just trying to emphasize the words? all i’ve done is respond to your post? and i have no way bashed that other board. all i was asking for opinions on what i did to get banned.

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I don’t see where i am being defensive at all? I’m just explaining my position on the matter i really don’t see rudeness in my post? because i used caps? i’m just trying to emphasize the words? all i’ve done is respond to your post? and i have no way bashed that other board. all i was asking for opinions on what i did to get banned.

Any time someone has said they understand where the Mod and other members were coming from you are getting very defensive. You aren’t just explaining yourself. You asked for opinions, we are objective observers and gave those opinions, and you return to “defend” yourself when there is nothing to defend.

Yes, you were out of line. It is the board owner’s/ Mod’s place to decide your fate on any given board.

My suggestion is to drop it. Let it go. Move on. Stating your POV once is enough, you are dwelling on it and making more drama.

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OK i think this thread has already/has the potential-to get way off topic– i think this thread should just go bye-bye- thanks for your opinions everyone!

How have we gone off topic? B/C some people don’t think you were 100% in the right? You asked if you were out of line and for opinions.

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Any time someone has said they understand where the Mod and other members were coming from you are getting very defensive. You aren’t just explaining yourself. You asked for opinions, we are objective observers and gave those opinions, and you return to “defend” yourself when there is nothing to defend.

Yes, you were out of line. It is the board owner’s/ Mod’s place to decide your fate on any given board.

My suggestion is to drop it. Let it go. Move on. Stating your POV once is enough, you are dwelling on it and making more drama.

see in my point of view i consider this thread a running conversation—and my replies are not to defend anything– just to share my thoughts on the matter. again–thanks for your opinions! i think this thread just needs to be deleted.

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Can you tell me why you ask the mods to delete this thread just because some people disagree with you?

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OK i think this thread has already/has the potential-to get way off topic– i think this thread should just go bye-bye- thanks for your opinions everyone!

How have we gone off topic? B/C some people don’t think you were 100% in the right? You asked if you were out of line and for opinions.

I’m sorry mama– but really i think your trying to stir up more drama– the thread HAS went way off topic in it has turned into a thread about buying from petstores in several threads– the original intent of this thread was to get opinions on WHY i was banned from that board–NOT to continue to debate on purchasing a pet from a petstore.

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Why because people don’t agree with you?

You say they are “welcoming to pets from any source” I am sure they are, but you asked what to do and what caused your pet to be like this, an they told you: buying it from a backyard breeder. Supporting said backyard breeder with your money, making it possible for them to continue harming animals by funding them.

MODS on all forums aren’t the same, in some forums they are just rule enforcers, but don’t chat, in other forums they stay in ‘nice’ topics, in others they are regular posters who say/do what they want, but also have to enforce their own standards.

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Can you tell me why you ask the mods to delete this thread just because some people disagree with you?

that is in no way why i think the thread should be deleted—i welcome differnt opinions! BUT like i said i’m not asking about petstores and puppy mills in my original thread.

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You know that by changing the title of this thread, its just going to attract more attention?

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that is in no way why i think the thread should be deleted—i welcome differnt opinions! BUT like i said i’m not asking about petstores and puppy mills in my original thread.

You asked if the mods on the other site were in the wrong, which is going to include peoples opinions. I don’t get why you created this thread in the first place if you didn’t want to hear what we all had to say.

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I’m sorry mama– but really i think your trying to stir up more drama– the thread HAS went way off topic in it has turned into a thread about buying from petstores in several threads– the original intent of this thread was to get opinions on WHY i was banned from that board–NOT to continue to debate on purchasing a pet from a petstore.

It would be “you’re” not “your”.

The only “pet store” discussions have stemmed from us explaining that the petstore purchase is what upset the members of that board.

However, no, I wasn’t/am not stirring drama. This thread was drama stirring. I gave my opinion, you don’t want to hear it, and that is fine.

Good luck with your new dog.

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You know that by changing the title of this thread, its just going to attract more attention?

well it was my understanding how you got the mods to review/delete something.

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well it was my understanding how you got the mods to review/delete something.

They don’t usually delete threads unless there is a real reason to do so.

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OP, I feel you I do, but you HAD to know everybody wasnt going to agree with you, right?

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They don’t usually delete threads unless there is a real reason to do so.

well i forwarded it to one so they can make the call–

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The passive aggression going on in here is hilarious.

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OP, I feel you I do, but you HAD to know everybody wasnt going to agree with you, right?

YES i did but again—- this thread is not about puppymills/petstores–and it is quickly turning into one……i asked for opinions on why i was banned–and i’ve very thankful for all the responses– even the ones who don’t agree—- it just seems like we are really beating a dead horse here……. thanks again everyone for the opinions/advice!

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