Sellers Beware!! Another Do NOT B/S/T May 7, 2008

OK, this was posted by Birdof1985 (http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3515464#post3515464)

feedback question

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I purchased something from a canadian mom almost 2m ago on here. She didnt have anything to show me she actually mailed the item when i asked. I told her id be happy to wait and she even gave a refund, i didnt ask- she offered. I told her id wait til mid May ( i gave her the exact date id wait for the item) and at that point it would of been 2m from the date of sending money and then id leave neutral fb.. well still no item, but do you think i should still leave neutral FB?

OK SERIOUSLY? This is coming from someone who had HUGE paypal issues over the last few weeks and expected mamas to cut her slack?? (for reference: http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=396222 )

The mama she has decided to leave a neutral or negative, hasn’t yet, for OFFERED A REFUND WITHOUT BEING ASKED. What else can she do? Send more product and a refund? Would that make Birdof1985 happy?

Not too many people think she should leave neutral or negative feedback, but she has decided NOT to listen to the masses and is going to “going to leave what i feel is fitting to the end of the situation”.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

She has made my Do NOT B/S/T list for sure. What else could have been done? Isn’t just no feedback better in this case? Or positive with details?

We all know how bad the Canadian Post is… and how impossible it is to track or get insurance.

I just feel bad for the seller. I hope she leaves a negative for Bird.

Harper Drama? Bullies? Huh? May 6, 2008

DSDM2 and I got some emails regarding the fact that Harper will no longer be stocking or in business. All posts on DS regarding this have been deleted, so I really have nothing on it…

Anyone care to share details/links/etc? I’ll add them up here.

Why is DS protecting Scammers? May 6, 2008

http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=414124

This isn’t the first thread about this in the last 24 hours. I noticed one yesterday too, but it seems to have “vanished” (big surprise).

I am ASSuming that this is the mama in question: http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/itrader.php?u=356

Or is it this one:

http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/itrader.php?u=9879

What is it with allowing these women to stay at DS? Why can’t the rules actually be the rules? I mean, if you are going to have them, shouldn’t we all have to abide by them?

Why isn’t this mom banned? MommyPatton521 has negatives, 3 actually, all in a short amount of time. No matter what her feedback was, she is scamming now. We all remember the Dixie/Michelle/Dixie Drops thing. She had great feedback… then turned scamming bitch.

What about this one: http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=415917

mamaofthezoo	Why is the feedback about the scammer not posted? Yesterday a member left feedback about a scammer in the wahm feedback section. Very shorty after I left a good review about another wahm. These have to be approved first. Mine was up in a very short time. Where is the feedback in the wahm section about the scammer? Am I missing something? _________________

DS needs to stop protecting the scammers. OUT THEM. Let people talk about it. It will make for a safer community.

None@yahoo.com, SamIam, Sam from DT, ClothDiaperMama, ClothMama, etc… May 3, 2008

CAN YOU PLEASE STOP USING SO MANY FREAKING ALIAS NAMES????

I am getting tired of having to approve and change your name on each post you post. It is getting annoying.

Own up to who you are. Stop hiding like usual. We know that you are Sam the owner of Diaper Traders. We know you aren’t a fan of BGs or DS. We know that you like to poke at people. We know that your board sucks and that is why you are here. Your drama isn’t even worth making the blog, which is why we don’t blog about www.Diapertraders.com. It is full of scammers and trash.

You are welcome to post here, just STOP using different names.

The Slowness is Cramping My Style. April 27, 2008

Ugh. WTH. I can’t even load a page… blah. Every. single. time. I. log. in.

Damn it, with all the money we get in ad revenue, you would think we would have decent speed.

Baby Pics and P3rvs April 15, 2008

Seriously, this is why I made that post about being careful what pics you post.  I seriously think I’m going to take a break from this, I can’t quite stomach DS and the attention that p3rvs will probably be giving it.

Ped0 phil3 symbol

PSA: Please read Re: pics of your kids on the net

Thoughts on celebrity endorsement..?

Anyway, I’m sorry to you readers, but after this, I just can’t.  Feel free to make any submissions, I’m sure DSDM2 can still do some blogging, but as of right now, I’m not feeling up to it.

Transaction Forum April 15, 2008

Is there anything I can do? (http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=396075)

popt_art

04-15-2008 07:38 AM

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Is there anything I can do?

I bought a couple of 3SR Mutts from FSOT for $20 each (with postage on top)

They were described as being in great condition with no problems, and while they were more crispy than I expected they seemed fine.
However, after 1 wash and wear the snaps (or poppers) don’t seem to be working

I am really new to CDing and to DS and I don’t know if there is anything I can do about this. Do I just eat up a $20 + loss per diaper?

It is making me really wary of buying any more used

mybaybeelove

04-15-2008 09:08 AM

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Re: Is there anything I can do?

Well, You should have contacted HER before making it a public diaper chatter thread.

FSOT are USED dipes. The seller didn’t say, but I can only assume that she bought them used also.
It doesn’t say what condition it is in, it just says they are great looking diapers.

I too am new to CD but not naive enough to think every diaper is going to come in pristeen condition, especially when it doesn’t say what condition it is in.

I bought one diaper with insert and the insert turned out to be a washcloth. (?????)

Contact the seller before posting it open to everyone.

naivete

04-15-2008 12:14 PM

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Re: Is there anything I can do?

Why is everyone being so rude? That’s what the transaction and feedback discussion forum is FOR, it’s for asking questions about transactions and how to deal with things, if you look through the forum, pretty much every question is “I had this deal happen and this happened, how would you deal with it?”. That’s what it’s for. It’s not rude, it’s not publically bashing, she didn’t even give her name, so chillax, she was just asking for advice on a transaction she made.

.. which is the point of the forum. She was asking how to, or if she should, approach the seller, which is fine.

Newbie OP - don’t feel discouraged not only by the deal but by the rude-o people in your thread telling you that you can’t ask for help with a transaction in the very spot that asking help for transactions is supposed to be.

:rolleyesout:

Did you use the diapers once before washing it and they worked fine, or did you get them, assume it worked fine, gave em a wash and then realized the snaps don’t work? Because if they worked fine when you got them, they probably worked fine when the seller sold them.

Is there someone in your area with a snap press? maybe do a google search, call around to alteration places, you could probably get them resnapped for relatively cheap, and then PM the seller and say you had to get them fixed and see if she could chip in a few bucks towards the fixing price. Cause if she didn’t know they were bum snaps, it’s not quite her fault, but also is not really yours either, if she’s a nice mama she coudl refund a few bucks towards the repair of the diapers.

Seriously, I’m confused about this forum.  Are you or are you NOT supposed to ask questions about transactions here? ONLY if you’ve already contacted the seller? And then, if you do it after contacting the seller, there are people that ream you for doing it then.  So, what gives? And why are people being so rude about this lately?

Abortion and Circing AIO April 13, 2008

Okay.. lets just hash it out here about circumcision & abortion issues (http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=394029)

*Alabamamom*

04-13-2008 10:17 AM

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Okay.. lets just hash it out here about circumcision & abortion issues

I am not going to continue replying on this subject in someone else’s thread that asked to no debates.. I made the mistake of replying to someone else, then apoligized for doing so and shut up.. But, since some are still so ready to jump up and down about it.. I figure, why not make a thread for this very reason.. We are all adults, surely we can lay it on the table diplomatically right? Oh.. and while I’m at it, I am adding a poll.. I am doing a study in my sociology class so this will be very helpful for me!
Obviously my stance on the whole circ issue is I feel it’s the parents choice to do what is best for their family.. it’s no ones business.. just like it’s no ones business if that same mother chose to formula feed or breast feed.. What I find interesting the most, is the same mama’s that argue that circing is ‘mutilation’ and you are taking somehow taking the childs rights away, are the same people that are prochoice.. I don’t understand how it’s ok to make the ‘choice’ of having your child sucked out in chunks from your womb, but NOT okay to have a little bit of skin removed in circing.. :headscratch: And yes, this IS a debate.. so lets go and hash it once and for all.. All that is asked, IS NO NAME CALLING AND TO HAVE RESPECT.. beat the subject up, not the poster.. :thumbsup: That said, I have errands and schoolwork to be done so it may be a while before I can check back..

Oooh, what fun!! Someone will be called a mutilator and a murderer all in one thread. <insert eye roll smiley here> I really must stay out of that thread.

Custom Issue April 13, 2008

OMG WHAT???!! vent (http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=391885)

natalie143

04-11-2008 04:43 AM

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OMG WHAT???!! vent

so i am a new CD’er currently living in south africa…
i made my first purchase on cloth diapers 2 weeks ago and Finally got my items… BUT i got charged 80% of the amount on CUSTOM duties…. so i bought something for 125 dollars.. and i paid 100 dollars at customs… that has NEVER happened to me before..

but you wanna know the sad part? i should never have been charged on it… if the store seller had written ‘baby cloth diapers’… instead of bum genius, thirsties, etc… i would have gotten charged nothing.
reason being, here in south africa there are no duties on baby goods.
It got charged as textiles(clothing…) because the customs officers couldn’t understand what bum genius is…
( i cant send it back to customs for them to open it up and see cuz theres a high chance here in south africa that it would get stolen, so i just have to deal with it.)

when you send internationally and declare the items, what would you write for a cloth diaper?

the reason im asking is because when i used to buy wraps and baby carriers… on the declaration form the sellers would write Baby carrier.. not Didymos wrap(because… hmmm who would understand that?)…

Sorry i just had to vent… i could have used that money to buy more diapers…
if i am in the wrong to post this, sorry! i just got hit really bad

at the same time, i need to know what most people write so i know whether i can continue to purchase cloth diapers from the US..(the cloth diapers that are sold here are very poor quality).

Mommyof2Princesses

04-11-2008 06:09 AM

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Re: OMG WHAT???!! vent

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Originally Posted by natalie143 (Post 3287022) yeah but i just thought it would be common sense to write what the generalisation of the items… because customs would not understand what a 3 pack of bum genius is.. ya know? so then they had to charge me the highest duties… i didnt think i HAD to ask them to put the most obvious answer. The declaration form is so that you can give customs an indication of what the item is… how is writing the brand name gonna give them any knowledge as to what is inside

It isn’t common sense to everyone. I’m sorry it happened to you but I know that every Canadian mom I’ve sold to has told me what to write on the customs form. Not everyone is even aware that you might have to pay extra for writing down brand names etc… I never knew people had to pay duties until I sold to a Canadian mom. I have a friend from South Africa and I didn’t know you guys had to pay duties. It might be worth your time in the future to make sure you don’t get charged so much. That stinks.

five-littlemonkeys

04-11-2008 09:33 AM

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Re: OMG WHAT???!! vent

I always write WHAT the items are not the brand names. Cloth diapers, Cloth diaper covers, wool baby clothes.

My reasoning…

1) It’s a different country they don’t have the same brands (why buy out of country if you do) so how do they know what it is and may not even know it’s a brand name. Take Zanny Zebra for instance. Is it a silly stuffed Zebra, a electronic Zebra, or maybe the new code name for some fancy new dope??
2) Postal works aren’t the smartest tools in the shed. You need to be very specific for them to understand. I know I’ve had issues trying to buy a mediume sized BOX from my PO let alone try to send something with d/c or signature verification!!
3) Chances are when it’s something to do with mothering or womanhood a Male agent will get the box. They are so not gona open it to look it they know it’s gona be baby stuff!!
4) It’s a different country. They may not even speak/read English well. Simple and straight forward is your best bet they can translate it properly.
5) Most other country call diapers Nappies. So there’s already a name different adding brand almost ensures they have to open it. It’s not like they have a computer right there so they can google every odd thing that’s written on the slips.

natalie143

04-11-2008 09:52 AM

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Re: OMG WHAT???!! vent

just outta curiosity… if you were the seller and had you made this type of mistake..(obviously unintentionally).. what would you do? would you just change what you write in the future?

kimb96

04-12-2008 09:16 AM

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Re: OMG WHAT???!! vent

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Originally Posted by Sweet_Fantasy_Fox (Post 3296149) I’m sorry, thats very high, i think since what she chose to write is what caused this she should offer some reimburstment. i write cloth diaper, used cloth diapers/covers, whatever it is. she needs to offer more than a little i’m sorry you can save when buying from me again:banghead:

I’m sorry but I disagree. Duty and custom fees are the responsibility of the buyer. The wahm didn’t lie on the custom form, she didn’t inflate the value. I’m sorry that op got stuck with high custom fees but I think it’s wrong to expect the retailer to reimburse her for them.

micael

04-12-2008 09:52 AM

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Re: OMG WHAT???!! vent

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Originally Posted by natalie143 (Post 3287022) yeah but i just thought it would be common sense to write what the generalisation of the items… because customs would not understand what a 3 pack of bum genius is.. ya know? so then they had to charge me the highest duties… i didnt think i HAD to ask them to put the most obvious answer. The declaration form is so that you can give customs an indication of what the item is… how is writing the brand name gonna give them any knowledge as to what is inside

I haven’t read through the pages of replies so forgive if this has been mentioned already but…

I think it is a poor assumption on your behalf to assume a seller should “put the most obvious answer”. Perhaps who you bought from has never sold internationally. If you had bought from me, I would have *never known* that writing something such as “baby diapers” would save you money at customs. I would have only known had you mentioned. Of course, now thanks to this thread I can make a mental note for international sales.

I know $100 sucks to have to pay out, trust me I’d be upset too. But at the same time it seems as if you’ve put all the fault on the seller who really may not have known there was anything else that could have been done to prevent that charge kwim?

Sorry I just had to throw in from a seller’s point of view.

So, who’s responsible?? If I didn’t put c/o on a package, and the PO returned it to sender, I’d fork it over for more shipping. The WAHM technically did nothing wrong, even though the buyer got a sucky customs deal, but still, to think a she has to make up for this doesn’t seem right. I say suck it up, call it a lesson learned. An expensive one, yes, but that’s how it goes sometimes. People need to take more responsibility these days.

Who’s the Scammer?? April 13, 2008

is there a scammer among the crowd? (http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=393629)

christianethansmom

04-12-2008 07:28 PM

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is there a scammer among the crowd?

I’ve noticed lately that a certain DS mama has been a bit….. odd. Normally I wouldn’t even notice but a while back, I purchased something from her and after a long wait, words, pp claim, etc the item still never came. It’s been almost 4 months now. She says that other items she has sent have also been lost but I’m thinking what the chances are of all this happening at the same time. Recently I’ve noticed that she’s been have some ‘troubles’ getting on. My question is, who/what can I do to verify that this mama isn’t scamming me/us? I can’t call her out but I wonder if anyone actually knows her IRL.

Hmmmmm….. who could it be?? I’ve seen a few people using the Answering Machine.  And there’s a sticky by cowmommy in another place.  Makes you wonder… kinda.